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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 13, 2020 19:56:30 GMT -5
That rings a bell. I guess I did forget. I probably consciously decided to not watch a show set in present day with a dystopic political environment. Guess why.....Because deep down you think Trump is a brilliant leader, and is truly misrepresented by the media and the left, with endless hyperbole on some shallow idiosyncrasy's that don't mean anything ? (jma runs for cover)if so, that makes his actions less excusable.
I prefer to think that he is precisely as he presents himself- a spoiled brat that never quite grew up. a marginally potty trained toddler.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 12:18:14 GMT -5
Because deep down you think Trump is a brilliant leader, and is truly misrepresented by the media and the left, with endless hyperbole on some shallow idiosyncrasy's that don't mean anything ? (jma runs for cover)if so, that makes his actions less excusable.
I prefer to think that he is precisely as he presents himself- a spoiled brat that never quite grew up. a marginally potty trained toddler.
That was the point of my joke.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 14, 2020 12:29:13 GMT -5
What a piece of shit. As the leader of the God damn free world (which isn't true anymore) you don't just say shit and shrug and put an asterisk next to your statement. Jerk.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2020 12:29:19 GMT -5
"I heard today she didn't meet the requirements so I read up on the issue and concluded ..." or "I heard and did nothing to develop clarity on the issue." Which is "leadership"?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 12:37:56 GMT -5
"I heard today she didn't meet the requirements so I read up on the issue and concluded ..." or " I heard and did nothing to develop clarity on the issue." Which is "leadership"? Being a politician in an election year, not taking an interest in that conspiracy theory, works for him. For someone who votes is a Democrat, saying 'he should of done something', is just another way, with some ignorance applied to the situation, that all possibility should be considered. That is not possible.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2020 12:42:41 GMT -5
"I heard today she didn't meet the requirements so I read up on the issue and concluded ..." or " I heard and did nothing to develop clarity on the issue." Which is "leadership"? Being a politician in an election year, not taking an interest in that conspiracy theory, works for him. For someone who votes is a Democrat, saying 'he should of done something', is just another way, with some ignorance applied to the situation, that all possibility should be considered. That is not possible. I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 12:46:12 GMT -5
Being a politician in an election year, not taking an interest in that conspiracy theory, works for him. For someone who votes is a Democrat, saying 'he should of done something', is just another way, with some ignorance applied to the situation, that all possibility should be considered. That is not possible. I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"? You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ?
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Post by steff on Aug 14, 2020 12:56:41 GMT -5
is it in the president's job description to spread conspiracy theories or with a pandemic ravaging our country, shouldn't he have more important things to do?
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2020 13:12:00 GMT -5
I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"? You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? I think it is classic Donald Trump behavior of running to get in front of a crowd that is already moving in a direction. I do not think it is appropriate for the President of the United States to feed the flames of a claim that a qualified candidate for Vice President is not qualified.
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Post by teen persuasion on Aug 14, 2020 13:39:20 GMT -5
You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? I think it is classic Donald Trump behavior of running to get in front of a crowd that is already moving in a direction. I do not think it is appropriate for the President of the United States to feed the flames of a claim that a qualified candidate for Vice President is not qualified. Your comment made me think of this:
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2020 13:42:08 GMT -5
"I heard today she didn't meet the requirements so I read up on the issue and concluded ..." or " I heard and did nothing to develop clarity on the issue." Which is "leadership"? Being a politician in an election year, not taking an interest in that conspiracy theory, works for him. For someone who votes is a Democrat, saying 'he should of done something', is just another way, with some ignorance applied to the situation, that all possibility should be considered. That is not possible. The President of the United States was conducting a press briefing. I think it is his responsibility to be the President and not the presumptive Republican nominee in that setting.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2020 20:16:08 GMT -5
I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"? You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? I have been thinking on this post. What is being asked of the President has nothing to do with a conspiracy theory. It is a simple question of Constitutional law. No facts of the situation are in dispute. No one is questioning who Kamala Harris's biological father was nor his citizenship status. No one is questioning who her mother was nor her citizenship status. No one is questioning when nor where her birth place. Thus it is only a question of whether any of that disqualifies her to be President. It is not the job of the President to determine questions of constitutionality. It is his job to lead the nation. I am using this situation to illustrate how he does not lead. A leader would have taken the time to learn that the answer to the Constitutional question in this situation is already well established and taken the time to inform people of that fact. The way he addressed it illustrates that he is a manipulator.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 15, 2020 14:57:01 GMT -5
I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"? You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? his responsibility is to speak knowledgably, imo.
that would preclude even MENTIONING conspiracy theories. if the press brings it up, he should answer in a manner that makes it clear that he doesn't know anything about it, and therefore has nothing to say, rather than fueling the fire of uncertainty.
it is not just this instance, of course. he has a pattern of doing this. Hydroxychloraquine is another recent, and dangerous example.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 15, 2020 14:59:59 GMT -5
is it in the president's job description to spread conspiracy theories or with a pandemic ravaging our country, shouldn't he have more important things to do? don't be silly. you know he can't ever stop campaigning. it is by far the most importanest thing ever.
duh.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 15, 2020 15:10:14 GMT -5
It is a large part of the president's job to lead this country, and to help make it better. It is not, has never been, and will never be part of the president's job to spread stupid bullsh** that serves only to divide the nation and destroy its institutions. To put it simply, it is not good for the president to be a vile, worthless, corrupt, lying, destructive piece of sh**. For most Americans, and even most politicians, that is an extremely low bar to clear. Why does Trump struggle with it every single day? Has there been a single day in his term that he managed to get over that bar? I can't think of one, but please, if someone can enlighten me I would appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 11:22:59 GMT -5
You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? I think it is classic Donald Trump behavior of running to get in front of a crowd that is already moving in a direction. I do not think it is appropriate for the President of the United States to feed the flames of a claim that a qualified candidate for Vice President is not qualified. I don't think it's appropriate that people think that the presidents behavior is a requisite of media manipulation. He's not required to investigate anything that the media advances. 'Leadership' as you were asking about in this case, would be him ignoring that leading question, and not giving it any attention. As in 'I don't know anything about it, which he said. Our previous president was cowed by the media, most had gotten used to that. Those days are over for now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 11:28:07 GMT -5
Being a politician in an election year, not taking an interest in that conspiracy theory, works for him. For someone who votes is a Democrat, saying 'he should of done something', is just another way, with some ignorance applied to the situation, that all possibility should be considered. That is not possible. The President of the United States was conducting a press briefing. I think it is his responsibility to be the President and not the presumptive Republican nominee in that setting. But he is the presumptive nominee, anywhere he goes. As long as you're expecting the defense of a negative, I have one. You didn't bring this nominee topic up a few years back. www.bing.com/images/search?q=obama+campaigning+while+president&qpvt=Obama+campigning+while+president&FORM=IGRE
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 17, 2020 11:39:02 GMT -5
I think it is classic Donald Trump behavior of running to get in front of a crowd that is already moving in a direction. I do not think it is appropriate for the President of the United States to feed the flames of a claim that a qualified candidate for Vice President is not qualified. I don't think it's appropriate that people think that the presidents behavior is a requisite of media manipulation. He's not required to investigate anything that the media advances. 'Leadership' as you were asking about in this case, would be him ignoring that leading question, and not giving it any attention. As in 'I don't know anything about it, which he said. Our previous president was cowed by the media, most had gotten used to that. Those days are over for now. Appreciate you offering an answer to the question of President Trump's leadership. Since he did not do the bolded, he did not show leadership on the question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 11:40:13 GMT -5
I don't think it's appropriate that people think that the presidents behavior is a requisite of media manipulation. He's not required to investigate anything that the media advances. 'Leadership' as you were asking about in this case, would be him ignoring that leading question, and not giving it any attention. As in 'I don't know anything about it, which he said. Our previous president was cowed by the media, most had gotten used to that. Those days are over for now. Appreciate you offering an answer to the question of President Trump's leadership. Since he did not do the bolded, he did not show leadership on the question. see reply #49 Last seven words of quote.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 17, 2020 11:49:01 GMT -5
Appreciate you offering an answer to the question of President Trump's leadership. Since he did not do the bolded, he did not show leadership on the question. see reply #49 Last seven words of quote. Yes, the seven words that you selected to quote.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 12:14:11 GMT -5
Or that I include all settings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 12:15:03 GMT -5
see reply #49 Last seven words of quote. Yes, the seven words that you selected to quote. It was the end of a complete line, cut and pasted exactly as it was from the link. Meaning what you chose to cut and paste, from the same link, carries the same weight. Following the logic you are presenting.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 17, 2020 12:42:40 GMT -5
Didn't he also say that the guy who wrote the legal analysis of her ineligibility was a well respected, great legal mind?
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 17, 2020 13:11:58 GMT -5
Didn't he also say that the guy who wrote the legal analysis of her ineligibility was a well respected, great legal mind? Wish there were easy to find transcripts instead of having to rely on articles that pull out a sentence or even just a couple of words.
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Post by laterbloomer on Aug 17, 2020 20:13:56 GMT -5
I know it works for him. Is it "leadership"? You tell me. Is it in the presidents job description to debunk conspiracy theories put forth by the general public ? Or does he have other things to do ? Yes, it is the job of all leaders to keep their constituency informed with the truth. It's a sign of how low you have gone that I actually have to type those words.
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