Veteran Dem political feels Trump will pullout of race if

[dezii]

he feels it , the upcoming election, is a lost cause for him......in fact has doubled down on his feeling...with this guy, nothing is impossible as far as his actions...As far as how such a action would impact with GOP folks running for other offices...both local and federal, really has anything regarding others concerned this guy?
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www.yahoo.com/news/james-carville-still-thinks-trump-143724080.html

[happyhoix]

I think that is a possibility- but I think it’s more likely he will claim he lost due to voter fraud and try to have Barr get the SCOTUS to over ride the election results to keep him in office. Yes trump does not give two shits about the county or other GOP candidates so he will burn the house down if that’s what it takes to stay in office.

[Bob Ross]

Jul 27, 2020 6:50:31 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I think that is a possibility- but I think it’s more likely he will claim he lost due to voter fraud and try to have Barr get the SCOTUS to over ride the election results to keep him in office. Yes trump does not give two shits about the county or other GOP candidates so he will burn the house down if that’s what it takes to stay in office.

I don't think the SCOTUS would override the election.  They've proven with their recent decisions that they're not a puppet of this regime.

I am heartened by this bit of info though:

www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-strategic-command-gen-john-hyten-resist-illegal-nuke-order-from-trump/

The top U.S. nuclear commander said Saturday he would push back against President Trump if he ordered a nuclear launch the general believed to be "illegal," saying he would look to find another solution...

"I provide advice to the president, he will tell me what to do," Hyten added. "And if it's illegal, guess what's going to happen? I'm going to say, 'Mr. President, that's illegal.' And guess what he's going to do? He's going to say, 'What would be legal?' And we'll come up with options, with a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that's the way it works. It's not that complicated."

Hyten said he has been trained every year for decades in the law of armed conflict, which takes into account specific factors to determine legality -- necessity, distinction, proportionality, unnecessary suffering and more. Running through scenarios of how to react in the event of an illegal order is standard practice, he said.

"If you execute an unlawful order, you will go to jail. You could go to jail for the rest of your life," Hyten said.

Although the quote is from 2017 and Hyten is no longer in charge of STRATCOM, he has since been promoted to Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.  I'm quite certain the other Generals would feel the same way.

And yes, I do think it's within the realm of possibility that a deranged Trump, having faced election loss and potential future prosecution and prison time, might seek to "burn it all down" as a final vengeful act against a populace that "failed him"...much like Hitler did in his final days.

That is the level of nutjob I think he is.

[Tiny]

Trump will need an excuse that either makes him look good OR that can be used as a distraction.     

What would he use if he's going to back out of the election?    We all pretty much know exactly what will be said if he loses the election (voter fraud or a "fixed" election by the illuminati or whatever conspiracy he can come up with (maybe Hillary Clinton pulled some strings to get him "unelected") 

But if he backs out BEFORE the election... what does he say to save face?? 

[teen persuasion]

Jul 27, 2020 22:04:34 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Trump will need an excuse that either makes him look good OR that can be used as a distraction.     

What would he use if he's going to back out of the election?    We all pretty much know exactly what will be said if he loses the election (voter fraud or a "fixed" election by the illuminati or whatever conspiracy he can come up with (maybe Hillary Clinton pulled some strings to get him "unelected") 

But if he backs out BEFORE the election... what does he say to save face?? 

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

[happyhoix]

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

Jul 27, 2020 22:04:34 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Trump will need an excuse that either makes him look good OR that can be used as a distraction.     

What would he use if he's going to back out of the election?    We all pretty much know exactly what will be said if he loses the election (voter fraud or a "fixed" election by the illuminati or whatever conspiracy he can come up with (maybe Hillary Clinton pulled some strings to get him "unelected") 

But if he backs out BEFORE the election... what does he say to save face?? 

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

Personally I think if he bails he will use his family and business as an excuse. 

"The far left witch hunters have attacked me and my family that my entire business empire is teetering on collapse and regretfully I must decline to run for a second term in order to help salvage what is left of my business to be able to pass something down to my children. It's all the fault of fake news, Obama, Hillary, Schemer, Pelosi, and all the other corrupt and hateful liberals who have done nothing but try to bring me down!" 

Then, with great fanfare, he stomps off to his helicopter to fly back to Mar a Lago. 

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 29, 2020 17:41:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

Personally I think if he bails he will use his family and business as an excuse. 

"The far left witch hunters have attacked me and my family that my entire business empire is teetering on collapse and regretfully I must decline to run for a second term in order to help salvage what is left of my business to be able to pass something down to my children. It's all the fault of fake news, Obama, Hillary, Schemer, Pelosi, and all the other corrupt and hateful liberals who have done nothing but try to bring me down!" 

Then, with great fanfare, he stomps off to his helicopter to fly back to Mar a Lago. 

He will never admit his business is failing, so I don’t see him saying it that way

[Opti]

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

Jul 27, 2020 22:04:34 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Trump will need an excuse that either makes him look good OR that can be used as a distraction.     

What would he use if he's going to back out of the election?    We all pretty much know exactly what will be said if he loses the election (voter fraud or a "fixed" election by the illuminati or whatever conspiracy he can come up with (maybe Hillary Clinton pulled some strings to get him "unelected") 

But if he backs out BEFORE the election... what does he say to save face?? 

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

I think he was probably happier in the early years of The Apprentice. A new TV show and perhaps guest spotlights on Fox would probably suit him. 

[Tennesseer]

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

Jul 27, 2020 22:04:34 GMT -5 Tiny said:

Trump will need an excuse that either makes him look good OR that can be used as a distraction.     

What would he use if he's going to back out of the election?    We all pretty much know exactly what will be said if he loses the election (voter fraud or a "fixed" election by the illuminati or whatever conspiracy he can come up with (maybe Hillary Clinton pulled some strings to get him "unelected") 

But if he backs out BEFORE the election... what does he say to save face?? 

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

[teen persuasion]

Jul 29, 2020 17:48:43 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

I think he was probably happier in the early years of The Apprentice. A new TV show and perhaps guest spotlights on Fox would probably suit him. 

Yep, my thoughts ran along these lines, too.

[Bob Ross]

Maybe they can crown him King of Mars and the Space Force can launch him off in the general direction?

Could come back to haunt us in a few decades when Mars is colonized and the Trumps claim dominion.

[weltschmerz]

Jul 29, 2020 17:48:43 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 29, 2020 14:49:27 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

He'd need something BETTER to ditch and run away with his head held high.  A better job offer, if you will.  What would he view as a better offer?  For most people, there's not another step up after President, right?

He's wired differently, though.  Some kind of social media or tv celebrity position with lots of popularity and adulation might really appeal to him.  He doesn't really want to work, just be adored by the masses.

I think he was probably happier in the early years of The Apprentice. A new TV show and perhaps guest spotlights on Fox would probably suit him. 

...........and risk losing his federal protections against prosecution? I doubt it.

[NancysSummerSip]

I hope the WH Whine-O packs his little red wagon and hightails it out of DC sooner rather than later. And takes his Republican cronies with him. And while he is on his way south to the Palm Beach Sandbox, stop by and pick up our governor while he's at it. The Tallahassee Trollop will fit in well at Mar A Lago.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Nope.  I don’t see him quitting.

Right now, being in the White House is the only thing stopping a dozen charges of money laundering and the ilk on file with the SDNY courts.  His is going to fight this until the end.  The minute he loses, you can be damned sure that those charges are going to proceed.  

[djAdvocate]

I don't think he will pull out, because I don't think he was ever in to win it.

he was in to disrupt, and he has succeeded wildly.