As I have suggested The Donald will not go quietly if loses

[dezii]

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

[dondub]

Jul 21, 2020 0:03:19 GMT -5 dezii said:

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

[weltschmerz]

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:03:19 GMT -5 dezii said:

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

I did. It was very informative. Alex Jones comes up with a whack-job theory. and trump repeats it 1 day later.

[happyhoix]

Someone asked Biden if he was worried about this possibility and he said he was not, since he knew the capital police were fully capable of physically removing trump from office.

I would look be to see that.

[dezii]

Jul 21, 2020 6:08:04 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Someone asked Biden if he was worried about this possibility and he said he was not, since he knew the capital police were fully capable of physically removing trump from office.

I would look be to see that.

Also US Marshall service...

[dezii]

Jul 21, 2020 8:50:22 GMT -5 dezii said:

Jul 21, 2020 6:08:04 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Someone asked Biden if he was worried about this possibility and he said he was not, since he knew the capital police were fully capable of physically removing trump from office.

I would look be to see that.

Also US Marshall service...

Also...if the Donald loses...can we expect the new first family invited into white house for tea and crumpets..{traditional}...or the two, new and outgoing...ride together to the ignaugeration site..{also traditional}or if the Donald even attends...

[Tennesseer]

Pelosi said the White House can and will be fumigated to get trump out.

[happyhoix]

I heard some one who used to be with the secret service say that even if trump refuses to leave, at noon on Inauguration Day his SS guards ( all except 3) will leave and the nuclear football will become inactive.

He’ll be a furious, suddenly impotent man. He may assume the military will remain loyal to him but I feel confident after that whole ‘disperse the throngs with teargas so I can stand in front of a church with someone else’s Bible’ moment that most of the military will support the duly elected president.

[bean29]

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:03:19 GMT -5 dezii said:

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

I gave DH permission about a year ago to carry a gun.  He takes it with him to work every day.  I took the CCP class with DD, but never sent the paperwork in.

DD has a gun too, and they told me my Son purchased one not too long ago.  My DD used to go to the shooting range with her last boyfriend all the time, I think I have more confidence in her abilities than those my DH might have.

[billisonboard]

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:03:19 GMT -5 dezii said:

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

A young mentee of mine was kayaking with friends in the San Juans. When it came time to paddle back to Anacortes, the crossing was rough but they headed out anyway. The double she was in flipped in open water. She and her friend were able to make it to the other double and drape themselves over it. She told me at that point they assumed they would die. Fortunately a ferry spotted them and launched a rescue boat. The waves were big enough that the ferry had to position itself to block them for the rescue to take place. (Our workplace actually first heard about the incident from the report the ferry was delayed rescuing kayakers and we nervously wondered if it was her.) When I saw her, she laughed when I said, "What a great story you now have to tell". She said she told her friends when they were still on the ferry that I would say that. But here is the reason I tell this long-winded story in response to the quoted post: She proudly told me that, in the moments when she thought she was going to die, she did not suddenly "find Jesus", that she stayed true to her beliefs.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Shut off the wifi and the cell phone networks.  Trump will be out of the White House in minutes because there is no way he could survive without Twitter.

[djAdvocate]

frog march him.

[billisonboard]

Jul 21, 2020 11:04:56 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Shut off the wifi and the cell phone networks.  Trump will be out of the White House in minutes because there is no way he could survive without Twitter.

I was a paper pusher in the Navy. In response to put downs from shipmates doing "serious jobs", I would respond with, "You could sail around the world but if I don't do the paperwork that reports you did, it didn't happen."

[billisonboard]

Jul 21, 2020 11:20:17 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

frog march him.

Nah. Just cancel him.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jul 21, 2020 9:26:51 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

I gave DH permission about a year ago to carry a gun.  He takes it with him to work every day.  I took the CCP class with DD, but never sent the paperwork in.

DD has a gun too, and they told me my Son purchased one not too long ago.  My DD used to go to the shooting range with her last boyfriend all the time, I think I have more confidence in her abilities than those my DH might have.

I probably have 80 hours of firearm instruction under my belt, including range time.  One of the things my instructor mentioned is that most women shoot better than men.

He said the reason is that most men go in with preconceived notions as to how they should shoot from movies (which is usually wrong) and mimic them.  Women are more open to instruction, in how to hold the gun properly and how to shoot.  As a result, they frequently shoot better than their spouses.  

We used to hit the range about once/month for practice, but have not been up since Jan.  Both of us are probably pretty rough, but could still hit a target, but probably not exactly where on the target we want to hit!

[weltschmerz]

Jul 21, 2020 9:26:51 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

I gave DH permission about a year ago to carry a gun.  He takes it with him to work every day.  I took the CCP class with DD, but never sent the paperwork in.

DD has a gun too, and they told me my Son purchased one not too long ago.  My DD used to go to the shooting range with her last boyfriend all the time, I think I have more confidence in her abilities than those my DH might have.

What kind of hell-hole do you live in, where you need to carry a gun to work every day?

[Bob Ross]

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:03:19 GMT -5 dezii said:

news.yahoo.com/trump-not-ready-commit-results-181814574.html

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

Notice how all the QAnon folks they showed looked like ugly white trash?

I don't know if I'd worry too much about the wack jobs rising up.  They might in rural red areas but who will they rise up against there?  Will they march on cities?  They'd be in for a heap of trouble if they did.

I don't worry so much about Trump not leaving office if it's determined he has to.  I'm more concerned about him not leaving office if he throws up some sort of legal gray area (which he most likely will) and use delaying tactic after delaying tactic.  These would be supported by his cronies and what would the SS and military do then?  Likely nothing until it all played out.  If Trump loses, November through January 20th are gonna be perilous.

Edit:  I found a good article on the topic here:

washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/april-may-june-2019/how-trump-could-lose-the-election-and-remain-president/

[Tennesseer]

From the Bob Ross linked article:

And if Trump still refused to go?



“I’m not sure which branch it would be, but it must be the case that somebody would be responsible for taking one elbow and somebody would be responsible for taking the other elbow,” Carey said. “I can imagine the feet going kind of crazy. But I like to think that it would be without too much damage to anyone.”

I say someone take trump's feet too and toss him into the trash can of history.

[dezii]

Jul 21, 2020 12:56:25 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Jul 21, 2020 9:26:51 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I gave DH permission about a year ago to carry a gun.  He takes it with him to work every day.  I took the CCP class with DD, but never sent the paperwork in.

DD has a gun too, and they told me my Son purchased one not too long ago.  My DD used to go to the shooting range with her last boyfriend all the time, I think I have more confidence in her abilities than those my DH might have.

I probably have 80 hours of firearm instruction under my belt, including range time.  One of the things my instructor mentioned is that most women shoot better than men.

He said the reason is that most men go in with preconceived notions as to how they should shoot from movies (which is usually wrong) and mimic them.  Women are more open to instruction, in how to hold the gun properly and how to shoot.  As a result, they frequently shoot better than their spouses.  

We used to hit the range about once/month for practice, but have not been up since Jan.  Both of us are probably pretty rough, but could still hit a target, but probably not exactly where on the target we want to hit!

With all this talk of carrying and firte arms...just who are those talking worried about that they feel the need for such things..? Are they expecting Donald supporters to rise up and try to take over the government if he loses...There are still police, national guard and national troops available...well armed, trained with knowlegable leaders to handle any such uprising...to be armed to protect ones home and family if needed I can see that...actually better to hunker down and let authorities take care of any such uprising...

[bean29]

Jul 21, 2020 16:11:18 GMT -5 dezii said:

Jul 21, 2020 12:56:25 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

I probably have 80 hours of firearm instruction under my belt, including range time.  One of the things my instructor mentioned is that most women shoot better than men.

He said the reason is that most men go in with preconceived notions as to how they should shoot from movies (which is usually wrong) and mimic them.  Women are more open to instruction, in how to hold the gun properly and how to shoot.  As a result, they frequently shoot better than their spouses.  

We used to hit the range about once/month for practice, but have not been up since Jan.  Both of us are probably pretty rough, but could still hit a target, but probably not exactly where on the target we want to hit!

With all this talk of carrying and firte arms...just who are those talking worried about that they feel the need for such things..? Are they expecting Donald supporters to rise up and try to take over the government if he loses...There are still police, national guard and national troops available...well armed, trained with knowlegable leaders to handle any such uprising...to be armed to protect ones home and family if needed I can see that...actually better to hunker down and let authorities take care of any such uprising...

Yeah, we don't own a semi automatic weapon - so we are basically thinking self defense.  

[Deleted]

I'd assume the firearms would be for when Trump's gestapo goes national. If he's successful in these next few cities, he could very well send them into your own city/town and start rounding up the illegals, brown folks, gays, etc... at will. 

Part of the plan in Portland, Chicago, etc... is to round up the illegals and deport them.


"The Department of Homeland Security has put about 2,000 officials from Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Transportation Security Administration and the Coast Guard on standby to be quickly deployed to cities. At least 200 members of “rapid deployment teams” were sent to Washington, D.C., Portland, Pennsylvania and Seattle, the agency said this month. Many tactical agents from those teams from Customs and Border Protection and ICE are now in Portland."


www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/us/politics/trump-chicago-portland-federal-agents.html

[billisonboard]

Jul 22, 2020 11:35:43 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

I'd assume the firearms would be for when Trump's gestapo goes national. If he's successful in these next few cities, he could very well send them into your own city/town and start rounding up the illegals, brown folks, gays, etc... at will. 

Part of the plan in Portland, Chicago, etc... is to round up the illegals and deport them.


"The Department of Homeland Security has put about 2,000 officials from Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Transportation Security Administration and the Coast Guard on standby to be quickly deployed to cities. At least 200 members of “rapid deployment teams” were sent to Washington, D.C., Portland, Pennsylvania and Seattle, the agency said this month. Many tactical agents from those teams from Customs and Border Protection and ICE are now in Portland."


www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/us/politics/trump-chicago-portland-federal-agents.html

I think you are making a leap here that isn't necessarily true.

[happyhoix]

Jul 21, 2020 13:42:57 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Jul 21, 2020 0:12:43 GMT -5 dondub said:

Who else watched the CNN Trump’s Conspiracy Theories program tonight. Fared Zakaria thinks the worst one is ‘voter fraud’.

And Bill Maher has been wondering out loud for months on whether Trump would leave.

If you saw his mad dog Qanon supporting wack jobs You just have to wonder how much blood will be in the streets.

I’m now contemplating whether I need to purchase my first gun.😳

Notice how all the QAnon folks they showed looked like ugly white trash?

I don't know if I'd worry too much about the wack jobs rising up.  They might in rural red areas but who will they rise up against there?  Will they march on cities?  They'd be in for a heap of trouble if they did.

I don't worry so much about Trump not leaving office if it's determined he has to.  I'm more concerned about him not leaving office if he throws up some sort of legal gray area (which he most likely will) and use delaying tactic after delaying tactic.  These would be supported by his cronies and what would the SS and military do then?  Likely nothing until it all played out.  If Trump loses, November through January 20th are gonna be perilous.

Edit:  I found a good article on the topic here:

washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/april-may-june-2019/how-trump-could-lose-the-election-and-remain-president/

I wasn’t too concerned about trump using the military before, until I heard a talking head this AM saying that Trump could ramp up the use of the DHS forces he’s using now to show how tough he is on the black and brown ‘troublemakers’ in the big cities- specifically to disrupt efforts to vote and to also scare his white racist base about how all of America will be one big race war if he doesn’t get re-elected.

Totally seems like something he would cook up in order to win.

[countrygirl2]

From what I have read if he won't hold an election come 21st, he is out anyway and the head of the house is acting president until an election can be held. Am I understanding this correctly?

My worry is will his brown shirts or SS keep him in? Will he have gotten the loyalty of the military, I hope not, but if he does we are screwed.

[dezii]

Jul 23, 2020 7:52:27 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

From what I have read if he won't hold an election come 21st, he is out anyway and the head of the house is acting president until an election can be held. Am I understanding this correctly?

My worry is will his brown shirts or SS keep him in? Will he have gotten the loyalty of the military, I hope not, but if he does we are screwed.

what hasn't been mentioned is the courts. The country is a nation of laws...even the SCOTUS  with its heavily loaded conservatives but when it came to not going peacefully if one loses a national election..I believe even the most conservative justice...well possible not Thomas..but all the rest would not side with the Donald.

[countrygirl2]

He was talking to putin today, probably getting ideas how to suppress the vote.  I am afraid he will find ways to keep people from voting. We may have to try and fight our way to the polls.
Damn

[weltschmerz]