justme
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Post by justme on Jul 13, 2020 12:24:35 GMT -5
Florida heads indoors in the summer. No one wants to be outside, which was why the bars were so crowded when they were opened. But they're closed now. They've actually been closed for over two weeks now. And we have greatly increased the number of tests in Florida which does account for some of the rise. But you're focusing on the 15k like it wasn't pretty much already a forgone conclusion we were going to hit it in Florida. If you've been paying any attention to the numbers coming out of here at all I figured it was just a matter of time. It's been a running joke not joke with my friend on the numbers for the last two weeks. This has all been a fallout of the bars being open and shit in Florida, among other things. I was way more concerned almost a week ago when almost 20% of our tests were coming back positive. And we had been trending up to that crazy number for a while. But we were "only" at 11k positive so no one made a thread about it. The % positive has been coming down the last few days and was actually the lowest it's been in over two weeks when we hit 15k. I'm more concerned about the idiots in charge opening the bars back up if we get down to a smaller % positive rate than I am about hitting another high number - because the lower % positive rate points to the number of tests playing a role in the higher numbers now with the "lower" % positive rates. An 11% positive rate is still awful. And with a shortage in tests developing, it will be interesting to see what happens to that number. Never said any of this was good! My ass has pretty much been at home minus buying food, doctors appointments, and the few social distant stuff I can do (beach on Wed, condo pool on a weekday at lunch or weeknight at 9pm). It's better than the almost 20% state wide rate. And much better than I believe the south of the state that hit 33%!! I'm hopeful the decrease is because closing the bars worked since we just hit two weeks closed Friday and it will keep going down. I'm less hopefully they'll keep the bars closed if it keeps going down. I'm also less hopeful those in charge will figure out how this went so awry (ie they said bars at 50% capacity and 6ft of social distance. Bars followed the 50% directive but there's no bar that I know of that where 50% capacity would give you 6 feet of distance. Capacity at most bars is shoulder to shoulder with others - half of that is still only like 2 or 3 feet distance. But all I heard those in charge crowing about was bars letting too many in - the ones near me all had bouncers outside counting people and stopping people coming in until they went out - 50% just wasn't enough for 6ft distance)
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jul 13, 2020 12:25:54 GMT -5
I'd lay low for awhile if I were a FL resident. I wouldn't be scared necessarily, but wouldn't want to do anything to put me near a hospital any time soon. NY had some high cases and the hospitals were still overrun, with FL numbers I can't imagine what they will look like. That and the fact that there must be more nurses/docs that are not willing to put their life on the line when the gov't isn't backing them.
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Post by justme on Jul 13, 2020 12:30:57 GMT -5
From what I've heard on local news (and I'm north of south Fl which has always been the hot spot of the state) we're not at capacity yet, but the hospitals are working on making sure their backup capacity plans are good to go. There was a report about St Pete ordering refrigerated trucks in anticipation. But that could just be a factor of an older group of people in a smaller area, but who knows.
My area has 3 huge hospital networks so we're pretty good. Though that probably means our neighbors will be coming here.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 12:36:46 GMT -5
An 11% positive rate is still awful. And with a shortage in tests developing, it will be interesting to see what happens to that number. So what’s acceptable? WA is currently at 5.8% (last time I looked). We are also opening up, so you’d expect an increase in the number of cases. So far, healthcare facilities are under control (except Yakima and they’ve been getting help). You would expect an increase as things open, so what is the benchmark we want to stay under? From what I have seen published, 5% is the magic number.
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Post by kadee79 on Jul 13, 2020 13:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by NastyWoman on Jul 13, 2020 14:27:40 GMT -5
From what I've heard on local news (and I'm north of south Fl which has always been the hot spot of the state) we're not at capacity yet, but the hospitals are working on making sure their backup capacity plans are good to go. There was a report about St Pete ordering refrigerated trucks in anticipation. But that could just be a factor of an older group of people in a smaller area, but who knows. My area has 3 huge hospital networks so we're pretty good. Though that probably means our neighbors will be coming here. That won' help if they start shipping critically ill patients to your area because they can't treat them in their own area. That is what is happening in the Bay Area. And Newsom just mentioned that some of the ventilators are going to be redistributed to the hardest hit areas. It is the right thing to do and logical to protect as many lives as possible. Yet, as I have mentioned before, many of the areas needing additional help did not take precautions seriously while I have been under virtual "house arrest" for 4 months and I resent especially the use of ICU beds by the its just a flu crowd... i never said I was nice
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 13, 2020 19:05:38 GMT -5
I mean, technically we've stabilized at our higher counts. If you do the multi day averages and stuff. if you mean "we've stabilized at exponential growth" but stable and exponential growth seem like opposites. Maybe that's just me in this case, stable means topping the previous record (2 days ago) by 30%.
I don't even know how to describe how ridiculous that sounds.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 14, 2020 17:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 14, 2020 17:31:13 GMT -5
heckler part was worth a listen too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 15, 2020 10:04:03 GMT -5
Satire from The Borowitz ReportFlorida Governor Orders All Children to Work at Walmart and Home Depot This FallBy Andy Borowitz TALLAHASSEE (The Borowitz Report)—Calling his decision a “game changer,” Florida’s governor announced on Tuesday that he was ordering all of the state’s children to work at Walmart and Home Depot in the fall. “If we can do Walmart and we can do Home Depot, we can definitely do your children working at Walmart and Home Depot,” Governor Ron DeSantis declared. Explaining the rationale behind his order, DeSantis said that sending children to work at the two big-box stores would have the “exact same result” as sending them to school—namely “getting them out of the house.” “To the parents of Florida, let me say, ‘You’re welcome,’ ” he said. Touting other benefits of his plan, DeSantis claimed, “I think this is going to be a great educational experience for our kids.” The governor was dismissive of a reporter who asked whether forcing children to work at Walmart and Home Depot would be a violation of child-labor laws. “As our great President has shown time and time again, this is not a time for laws,” DeSantis said. Complete article here: Florida Governor Orders All Children to Work at Walmart and Home Depot This Fall
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 17, 2020 11:03:25 GMT -5
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