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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 13:41:31 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/goya-foods-boycott-trump/index.htmlfollowing CEOs endorsement of trump. Interesting development as goya is noted as a staple in Latino households. Latinos rarely are trump fans. Do the usual trumpers eat beans? I kind feel like they are heavy meat eaters, maybe the occasional chili, but - wondering how this will play out.
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 10, 2020 13:47:35 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/goya-foods-boycott-trump/index.htmlfollowing CEOs endorsement of trump. Interesting development as goya is noted as a staple in Latino households. Latinos rarely are trump fans. Do the usual trumpers eat beans? I kind feel like they are heavy meat eaters, maybe the occasional chili, but - wondering how this will play out. Let’s just say if they do follow through a lot of the MEGA marts by me (Hispanic grocery stores) will be hurting because everything (or close to 50% I feel) Of their product is GOYA. I think the CEO was dumb to forget who are the people that actually buys his product. I have worked retail for the past 18 years and the only stores that have a large selection of GOYA product are the ones in Hispanic communities. Currently my store in a mostly white upscale community I may have 15 Goya product in total compared to driving to Hyattsville in MD and going to a MEGA Mart and it is GOYA central. When I used to live in NY I also had to drive to a Hispanic neighborhood to get the Goya beans (with sauce) in the red cans that we like because not all stores carried it.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jul 10, 2020 13:47:45 GMT -5
They probably hunt with their AR-15's and eat that meat. Isn't trumps son a big game hunter? Just for fun and trophies though.
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 10, 2020 13:51:03 GMT -5
Also the idiot is going around saying the boycott is a suppression of freedom of speech.
No you idiot, it is a freedom of choice. You choose to support the orange guy, I will choose to spend my dollars elsewhere.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 10, 2020 14:29:31 GMT -5
Also the idiot is going around saying the boycott is a suppression of freedom of speech. No you idiot, it is a freedom of choice. You choose to support the orange guy, I will choose to spend my dollars elsewhere. yeah, because Americans just love the free speech of corporations so much.....
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 14:36:25 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/goya-foods-boycott-trump/index.htmlfollowing CEOs endorsement of trump. Interesting development as goya is noted as a staple in Latino households. Latinos rarely are trump fans. Do the usual trumpers eat beans? I kind feel like they are heavy meat eaters, maybe the occasional chili, but - wondering how this will play out. Let’s just say if they do follow through a lot of the MEGA marts by me (Hispanic grocery stores) will be hurting because everything (or close to 50% I feel) Of their product is GOYA. I think the CEO was dumb to forget who are the people that actually buys his product. I have worked retail for the past 18 years and the only stores that have a large selection of GOYA product are the ones in Hispanic communities. Currently my store in a mostly white upscale community I may have 15 Goya product in total compared to driving to Hyattsville in MD and going to a MEGA Mart and it is GOYA central. When I used to live in NY I also had to drive to a Hispanic neighborhood to get the Goya beans (with sauce) in the red cans that we like because not all stores carried it. it may be regional. I wouldn't call my neighborhood upscale or anything, but a lot of nice SFHs in the 300-600+k range, super walkable, shady tree lined streets, lots of parks, etc. Our local jewel probably has more than 15 goya products just in dried beans alone. Chicago does have a very large Latino population. And I think even in areas that are not too diverse in chicago, that it has influenced a lot of food choices for the city as a whole. La preferita is the other popular brand around here. I can't recall which one we liked better.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 14:40:06 GMT -5
Also the idiot is going around saying the boycott is a suppression of freedom of speech. No you idiot, it is a freedom of choice. You choose to support the orange guy, I will choose to spend my dollars elsewhere. How about the free speech of those organizing the boycott? So tired of these "free-speechers" who think that only things they want are supported by it.
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Post by bean29 on Jul 10, 2020 14:42:40 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this.
He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots.
I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 14:48:56 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. I'm going to trust the poster with the name bean, lol! Had there been the impression goya was owned by people with Mexican or south american heritage? If I had any doubts, I personally can be confident putting goya on my own personal boycott list after the super-dumb free speech followup. I actually haven't bought dried beans at the jewel in a bit, ordered some bulk via nuts.com.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 14:50:33 GMT -5
uh oh! Chrissy Teigan has joined the boycott!
Goya - you in trouble, girl.
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Post by TheHaitian on Jul 10, 2020 14:59:36 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. Don’t even get me started on Cubans, the one in FL supporting Trump. They are freaking worst than some Dominicans and Brazilians trying to be “whitewashed” so freaking bad. Read up on your history folks: you are not white and he doesn’t want you! Maybe it is because he is third generation, so at this point the only thing Hispanic about them might be their last name (they are after all the second richest Hispanic family in NY)... but dude you should at least know your customer base and who you cater to.
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Post by oped on Jul 10, 2020 15:00:30 GMT -5
Within hours if not sooner Twitter was full of 'my grandma's recipe for .... ' lots of spices and sauces, etc. Don't buy Goya... make your own! type thing.
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Post by Tiny on Jul 10, 2020 15:56:24 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. The only place I ONLY see Goya brand stuff (and La Preferida) - is when I'm in a Big Box/Brand Name "Grocery" stores in their "Ethnic" aisle with the "La Choy" products. My local grocery stores (and even the "smaller format" Big Box/Brand Name Groceries) have lots of other "hispanic" brands. Goya and La Preferida have the smallest amount of shelf space of the other brands/makers/products. As in there's a 2 foot section devoted to Goya/La Preferida in a 30 foot long aisle of "hispanic" brands/ingredients. As for canned beans... you can pretty much buy the beans of your choice in ethnic labeled cans of your choice. Bush puts the whole range of beans in cans to0 (if you need an American "brand" of pinto beans). I use to buy an "indian" brand of canned chickpeas (they were always the same price while the Bush/Goya/other brands would go thru sales cycles during which the cans might be 3X the cost of the "indian" brand.) The Indian branded can of chickpeas had smaller chickpeas (bush bean chickpeas are on steriods - cause in America Bigger is Better). The beans worked the same in hummus and I liked the smaller chickpeas when I made a salad or Chana Masala. ) So, I don't think Goya has a "corner" on any market in my neck of the woods. (as a very aside: I thought Goya/La Preferida catered to non-hispanics who wanted to make "mexican" food at home. )
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Post by bean29 on Jul 10, 2020 16:12:19 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. I'm going to trust the poster with the name bean, lol! Had there been the impression goya was owned by people with Mexican or south american heritage? If I had any doubts, I personally can be confident putting goya on my own personal boycott list after the super-dumb free speech followup. I actually haven't bought dried beans at the jewel in a bit, ordered some bulk via nuts.com. LOL, my name references my Accounting Background ie. Bean Counter, not my nationality or heritage. I would not be surprised if my DH knows who owns Goya, have not had a chance to discuss with him. I just know that he feels that some Cuban Politicians with Florida connections do not really have a connection to many Poor/Low income/Middle Class Hispanics living in the US because they are from Wealthy Families and do not really relate to the base some people assume they represent. I used to buy Goya Gandules for Puerto Rican Rice. My Mother-in-law wants long grain rice (not necessarily picky about brand, just the kind of rice she uses). They also make beans mostly from dried beans, and I do think they often buy Goya brand. I do know we use Adobo as a daily spice - it goes on most meat we cook. ETA. I do think the boycotts are working - DH told me to avoid spending $$ at Home Depot even if I have to spend more $$ to support Lowes. I think it was more than just the founder's support of Trump that was at issue - Lowes also has a Minority CEO.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 10, 2020 16:43:28 GMT -5
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. Something all these people complaining seem to forget
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 10, 2020 17:10:26 GMT -5
I'm going to trust the poster with the name bean, lol! Had there been the impression goya was owned by people with Mexican or south american heritage? If I had any doubts, I personally can be confident putting goya on my own personal boycott list after the super-dumb free speech followup. I actually haven't bought dried beans at the jewel in a bit, ordered some bulk via nuts.com. LOL, my name references my Accounting Background ie. Bean Counter, not my nationality or heritage. I would not be surprised if my DH knows who owns Goya, have not had a chance to discuss with him. I just know that he feels that some Cuban Politicians with Florida connections do not really have a connection to many Poor/Low income/Middle Class Hispanics living in the US because they are from Wealthy Families and do not really relate to the base some people assume they represent. I used to buy Goya Gandules for Puerto Rican Rice. My Mother-in-law wants long grain rice (not necessarily picky about brand, just the kind of rice she uses). They also make beans mostly from dried beans, and I do think they often buy Goya brand. I do know we use Adobo as a daily spice - it goes on most meat we cook. ETA. I do think the boycotts are working - DH told me to avoid spending $$ at Home Depot even if I have to spend more $$ to support Lowes. I think it was more than just the founder's support of Trump that was at issue - Lowes also has a Minority CEO. We have switched to Lowes as well! Not sure if you saw on another thread, my DD said lowes was woke, lol. I have no idea what info she was pulling from on that.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 10, 2020 17:45:02 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. Regarding the highlighted above. When I read that I mentally travelled more than fifty years ago to Spanish I in high school. The first thing which came to mind was we were told we were learning Castile Spanish. Was my memory correct?
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Post by irishpad on Jul 10, 2020 19:00:28 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. Regarding the highlighted above. When I read that I mentally travelled more than fifty years ago to Spanish I in high school. The first thing which came to mind was we were told we were learning Castile Spanish. Was my memory correct? It probably was. Castilian I learned my Spanish in Colombia and of course they thought they spoke the best Spanish.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 10, 2020 19:19:04 GMT -5
I'm brown AF and I don't buy Goya. I should probably turn in my membership card. At least it won't burst into flames like my YM card did.
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Post by andi9899 on Jul 10, 2020 19:23:47 GMT -5
I read an article about that family/business and they are from Spain. My husband is from Mexico, and he would not give them the benefit of the doubt on this. He always complains that most Spanish Language taught in the US is High Spanish from Spain, but that Mexican/Cuban/Puerto Rican Spanish are entirely different languages. The same word can mean entirely different things in the different dialects. DH complains about the rich Cubans in Fl not having the same barriers as other Hispanics in the US, me thinks it was not wise for this guy to draw attention to his company and their roots. I am not sure how many alternatives there are to GOYA products though. But, when we need ethnic food, DH tends to go shopping on the South Side of the city where most of the Hispanics are concentrated - so they would have more variety. I would agree with him. He's absolutely right about dialects. I can talk to someone in Spanish and know where they're from by what they say. Once the world goes back to normal, come on over. I live in Little Mexico. I'll show you around my hood.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jul 10, 2020 19:25:42 GMT -5
www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/business/goya-foods-boycott-trump/index.htmlfollowing CEOs endorsement of trump. Interesting development as goya is noted as a staple in Latino households. Latinos rarely are trump fans. Do the usual trumpers eat beans? I kind feel like they are heavy meat eaters, maybe the occasional chili, but - wondering how this will play out. Thanks for the post, Rukh. In Florida, Goya is a big presence. But we have other choices. And we know how to use them.
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I'm going to trust the poster with the name bean, lol! Had there been the impression goya was owned by people with Mexican or south american heritage? If I had any doubts, I personally can be confident putting goya on my own personal boycott list after the super-dumb free speech followup. I actually haven't bought dried beans at the jewel in a bit, ordered some bulk via nuts.com. LOL, my name references my Accounting Background ie. Bean Counter, not my nationality or heritage. I would not be surprised if my DH knows who owns Goya, have not had a chance to discuss with him. I just know that he feels that some Cuban Politicians with Florida connections do not really have a connection to many Poor/Low income/Middle Class Hispanics living in the US because they are from Wealthy Families and do not really relate to the base some people assume they represent. I used to buy Goya Gandules for Puerto Rican Rice. My Mother-in-law wants long grain rice (not necessarily picky about brand, just the kind of rice she uses). They also make beans mostly from dried beans, and I do think they often buy Goya brand. I do know we use Adobo as a daily spice - it goes on most meat we cook. ETA. I do think the boycotts are working - DH told me to avoid spending $$ at Home Depot even if I have to spend more $$ to support Lowes. I think it was more than just the founder's support of Trump that was at issue - Lowes also has a Minority CEO. Good to know. I like Lowe's better anyway.
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Post by kadee79 on Jul 10, 2020 20:51:18 GMT -5
We had a group of Hispanics working next door to us a few years ago. Only one could speak a little English, he was the youngest & from Mexico. The rest were all from other central American countries & they did more talking with hand sign language cause they didn't all speak the same Spanish. The young man told me all the dialects had gotten mixed in with Native American languages so all were different depending on what tribe had lived in their areas.
And believe it or not, but our little town of about 25,000 have 2 small ethnic (Hispanic) markets. They both do a good business. I've never been in either. Our Walmart also has one whole aisle that is ethnic...only 4' is devoted to Asian, the rest is Hispanic...and our Walmart is one of the smaller super centers. We have lots of field workers come thru here harvesting the veggie crops grown in this area...right now it is bell peppers, cantaloupe, watermelons, tomatoes & some peaches. There are other crops, but those are the major ones right now.
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Post by bean29 on Jul 11, 2020 11:25:36 GMT -5
DH told me last night not to buy Goya Products. I did ask him if he knew before the family was from Spain and he said no.
DH does at least half our grocery shopping anyways.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jul 11, 2020 11:39:29 GMT -5
DH told me last night not to buy Goya Products. I did ask him if he knew before the family was from Spain and he said no. DH does at least half our grocery shopping anyways. In one of the article, I saw there was some small time operation that has I think? an adobo mix and said he has gotten 1000 orders and requests for other mixes and he is all over it.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jul 11, 2020 13:39:41 GMT -5
DH told me last night not to buy Goya Products. I did ask him if he knew before the family was from Spain and he said no. DH does at least half our grocery shopping anyways. In one of the article, I saw there was some small time operation that has I think? an adobo mix and said he has gotten 1000 orders and requests for other mixes and he is all over it. Might that operation be Penzey's? I can vouch for their spices and seasonings. I order a lot from them.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 15, 2020 8:30:41 GMT -5
Twitter of trump posing with a Goya can further down the linked article. Ivanka Trump pitches Goya Foods products on Twitter
Ivanka Trump took to Twitter on Tuesday evening to push products from Goya Foods, with critics quickly raising concerns that she was using her government position to boost a business. Trump, who serves as a senior advisor to her father President Trump in the White House, weighed in on growing controversy over the food company, tweeting, “If it’s Goya, it has to be good” and repeating the company’s slogan in Spanish. Article and 'The Price Is Right' picture here: Ivanka Trump pitches Goya Foods products on Twitter
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 15, 2020 16:22:52 GMT -5
Twitter of trump posing with a Goya can further down the linked article. Ivanka Trump pitches Goya Foods products on Twitter
Ivanka Trump took to Twitter on Tuesday evening to push products from Goya Foods, with critics quickly raising concerns that she was using her government position to boost a business. Trump, who serves as a senior advisor to her father President Trump in the White House, weighed in on growing controversy over the food company, tweeting, “If it’s Goya, it has to be good” and repeating the company’s slogan in Spanish. Article and 'The Price Is Right' picture here: Ivanka Trump pitches Goya Foods products on Twitterok. I wasn't boycotting their products before, but I am now.
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