Mask tirades or the new national Trump sponsored stupid

[Opti]

Check out the video midway down in the article, of a woman having a stupid meltdown in a Costco. What prompted me to start the thread is this-


The woman, who asked to speak to the manager, sat on the ground in protest despite an employee offering to get her a chair outside.



“I am an American,” she said. “I have constitutional rights.”

Can someone enlighten me as to what constitutional rights she and others think they have in regards to wearing a mask? And why have these people not gone on whining tirades before about wearing clothes in public, being required to wear shoes and shirts in various stores?
Are we witnessing an epidemic of Trump snowflakes because of the virus and BLM demonstrations?


www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/07/06/mask-rant-shoppers-protest-face-coverings-target-costco/5382837002/

[happyhoix]

We’re witnessing a narcissist president obsessed with winning the next election brainwashing his followers into thinking everything boils down to us vs the terrorist dems.

Wearing masks means you’re anti trump. Social distancing means you’re anti trump. Keeping schools and churches closed means you want to make trump look bad. The whole BLM thing is a way to make trump look bad.

[busymom]

Jul 9, 2020 8:56:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

We’re witnessing a narcissist president obsessed with winning the next election brainwashing his followers into thinking everything boils down to us vs the terrorist dems.

Wearing masks means you’re anti trump. Social distancing means you’re anti trump. Keeping schools and churches closed means you want to make trump look bad. The whole BLM thing is a way to make trump look bad.

     Nailed it!   And they call anti-Trumpers snowflakes...   

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jul 9, 2020 8:56:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

We’re witnessing a narcissist president obsessed with winning the next election brainwashing his followers into thinking everything boils down to us vs the terrorist dems.

Wearing masks means you’re anti trump. Social distancing means you’re anti trump. Keeping schools and churches closed means you want to make trump look bad. The whole BLM thing is a way to make trump look bad.

[djAdvocate]

the constitution doesn't apply to how a business operates, provided that it does not do so on a discriminatory basis.

requiring masks is within a businesses rights.
if the customer doesn't like it, they can shop elsewhere.

[djAdvocate]

it's not going to work. this is the 60-40 thing. most of us know what is actually going on.

[Opti]

I'd love to create a meme.

Who's a real snowflake?

Wants women to carry fetuses to term no matter what because its only 9 months.
Can't wear a mask 10 to 30 minutes in a store, because its restrictive and they can't breathe.

[djAdvocate]

I think "I can't breathe" would make a great meme. on one side of the frame, show a Karen. on the other one, show George Floyd.

[billisonboard]

... “I am an American,” she said. “I have constitutional rights.” ...

Yes you do. They are well established what they are as well as the limitations on each. You have the right to speak out against the wearing of masks. You can assemble within established guidelines to protest the requirement to wear a mask. Within established guidelines, you can even take your gun to the protest. Not sure what constitutional right say you can't be ordered to wear a mask when in public.

[happyhoix]

Jul 9, 2020 12:24:58 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'd love to create a meme.

Who's a real snowflake?

Wants women to carry fetuses to term no matter what because its only 9 months.
Can't wear a mask 10 to 30 minutes in a store, because its restrictive and they can't breathe.

Also wants to save all the tiny embryos even if it causes medical problems for the women carrying them because he’s pro life, except if you’re old and have one foot in the grave and trying to protect your life requires shutting down some businesses and events and people having to wear masks.

[Opti]

Jul 9, 2020 13:34:20 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

I think "I can't breathe" would make a great meme. on one side of the frame, show a Karen. on the other one, show George Floyd.

How about a white male corrections officer from NJ? I am so disappointed this crap happened in this state. (yeah probably not good for that meme, but some of these assholes are men.)

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-white-men-n-j-mocking-george-floyd-s-n1229051


www.nbcnews.com/video/video-shows-men-mocking-george-floyd-s-death-during-black-lives-matter-protest-84815941903

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jul 9, 2020 13:34:20 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

I think "I can't breathe" would make a great meme. on one side of the frame, show a Karen. on the other one, show George Floyd.

I would not be shocked to see someone either say that or have a protest sign regarding masks stating that.    I've seen enough of white men carrying "My Body My Choice" signs to make me vomit.   You can hear the point of those words rushing over their tiny little brains.

[thyme4change]

www.theonion.com/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-consti-1819571149

[kadee79]

Don't the teach the constitution in school any more?  Geez, I had to pass a test in 7th grade & then again in high school in American History.  We had to read the whole thing & discussed each amendment too.


Someone needs to get a whole bunch of those small pamphlets of the Constitution & hand them out to these folks...ask them to point out in there where they think that right has been awarded them.

[lynnerself]

This is old news now, but the very first morning of our mandatory face mask order several State Troopers refused to wear a mask in a coffee shop. The most belligerent one said

"Governor Brown has no authority to take our civil liberties. We aren't going to wear masks.

F--- Kate Brown"

www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/face-masks/oregon-troopers-refuse-face-masks-coffee-shop/283-70e10fa3-aa88-41ba-b4be-35dc20280e09

Great example to set.

He was put on administrative leave. The others had a sit down with the governor, but were not disciplined.

[Tennesseer]

Jul 9, 2020 12:24:58 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'd love to create a meme.

Who's a real snowflake?

Wants women to carry fetuses to term no matter what because its only 9 months.
Can't wear a mask 10 to 30 minutes in a store, because its restrictive and they can't breathe.

[Tennesseer]

Terrible people in this world.

French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

A bus driver in France who was beaten up by passengers refusing to wear mandatory face masks died in hospital Friday, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and the victim's family have said.

Philippe Monguillot, 59, was left brain dead after the attack in the southwestern city of Bayonne on July 5. His family decided to switch off his life support on Friday, news agency Agence France-Presse reported.

"We decided to let him go. The doctors were in favor and we were as well," the victim's 18-year-old daughter, Marie Monguillot, told AFP.

Four men were detained and charged following the assault.

The attack occurred on Sunday around 7:15 p.m. on the 810 bus traveling to Biarritz after the bus driver checked the ticket of one of the men and asked all four to wear face masks, which are compulsory in French public transport, according to the public prosecutor's office.

Rest of article here:  
French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

[Lizard Queen]

heavy.com/news/2020/07/richard-rose-covid-19-coronavirus/

37 year-old veteran rants about face masks, goes to pool party and bar, dies of covid19.

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 11, 2020 9:10:17 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Terrible people in this world.

French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

A bus driver in France who was beaten up by passengers refusing to wear mandatory face masks died in hospital Friday, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and the victim's family have said.

Philippe Monguillot, 59, was left brain dead after the attack in the southwestern city of Bayonne on July 5. His family decided to switch off his life support on Friday, news agency Agence France-Presse reported.

"We decided to let him go. The doctors were in favor and we were as well," the victim's 18-year-old daughter, Marie Monguillot, told AFP.

Four men were detained and charged following the assault.

The attack occurred on Sunday around 7:15 p.m. on the 810 bus traveling to Biarritz after the bus driver checked the ticket of one of the men and asked all four to wear face masks, which are compulsory in French public transport, according to the public prosecutor's office.

Rest of article here:  
French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

I hate people. Walked into a case where the patient was dropped off in cardiac arrest, and they just took off.

[Opti]

Heinous. I wish I could deal out justice in cases like these.

[thyme4change]

Jul 11, 2020 9:10:17 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Terrible people in this world.

French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

A bus driver in France who was beaten up by passengers refusing to wear mandatory face masks died in hospital Friday, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and the victim's family have said.

Philippe Monguillot, 59, was left brain dead after the attack in the southwestern city of Bayonne on July 5. His family decided to switch off his life support on Friday, news agency Agence France-Presse reported.

"We decided to let him go. The doctors were in favor and we were as well," the victim's 18-year-old daughter, Marie Monguillot, told AFP.

Four men were detained and charged following the assault.

The attack occurred on Sunday around 7:15 p.m. on the 810 bus traveling to Biarritz after the bus driver checked the ticket of one of the men and asked all four to wear face masks, which are compulsory in French public transport, according to the public prosecutor's office.

Rest of article here:  
French bus driver Philippe Monguillot dies after attack over mask rules

I hope they go to jail, and then die of Covid during a breakout.

Too bad they aren't American. We would treat them as horribly as they deserve.

[djAdvocate]

you mean put them in overcrowded private prisons with shitty food and shitty medical care?

[thyme4change]

Jul 11, 2020 10:38:22 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

you mean put them in overcrowded private prisons with shitty food and shitty medical care?

Exactly.

[Tennesseer]

This guy went over the top.  Fortunately for society, he is no longer a threat.

1 dead after mask confrontation at convenience store escalates into stabbing, police shooting

DELTA TWP., Mich. – Michigan police say a deputy shot and killed a man after he stabbed a 77-year-old convenience store customer who confronted him about not wearing a mask.

Sean Ernest Ruis, 43, walked into a Quality Dairy store roughly 5 miles outside Lansing, Michigan at about 6:45 a.m. Tuesday. There, a 77-year-old male customer confronted him about not wearing a mask, Michigan State Police Lt. Brian Oleksyk said. Tuesday was the second day of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s order that masks must be worn inside businesses.

The 77-year-old customer was wearing a mask, Ruis was not, Oleksyk said.

Both men left the store and got into an argument in the parking lot. Ruis stabbed the other man, then fled the area, Oleksyk said. The 77-year-old, who is from Lansing, is in stable condition. His name has not been released.

An Eaton County deputy located Ruis' vehicle at about 7:13 a.m. in a neighborhood several miles away on Jerryson Drive in Delta Township, Oleksyk said. When the deputy made a traffic stop, Ruis got out of his vehicle and approached the deputy with a knife, Oleksyk said.

Oleksyk said the deputy retreated, ordered Ruis to drop the knife, and when he approached again she shot him. Ruis died in surgery at a Lansing area hospital, Oleksyk said.

Complete article here: 1 dead after mask confrontation at convenience store escalates into stabbing, police shooting

[Opti]

I hope the 77 year old ends up being OK. 

[thyme4change]

Jul 14, 2020 16:59:47 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This guy went over the top.  Fortunately for society, he is no longer a threat.

1 dead after mask confrontation at convenience store escalates into stabbing, police shooting

DELTA TWP., Mich. – Michigan police say a deputy shot and killed a man after he stabbed a 77-year-old convenience store customer who confronted him about not wearing a mask.

Sean Ernest Ruis, 43, walked into a Quality Dairy store roughly 5 miles outside Lansing, Michigan at about 6:45 a.m. Tuesday. There, a 77-year-old male customer confronted him about not wearing a mask, Michigan State Police Lt. Brian Oleksyk said. Tuesday was the second day of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s order that masks must be worn inside businesses.

The 77-year-old customer was wearing a mask, Ruis was not, Oleksyk said.

Both men left the store and got into an argument in the parking lot. Ruis stabbed the other man, then fled the area, Oleksyk said. The 77-year-old, who is from Lansing, is in stable condition. His name has not been released.

An Eaton County deputy located Ruis' vehicle at about 7:13 a.m. in a neighborhood several miles away on Jerryson Drive in Delta Township, Oleksyk said. When the deputy made a traffic stop, Ruis got out of his vehicle and approached the deputy with a knife, Oleksyk said.

Oleksyk said the deputy retreated, ordered Ruis to drop the knife, and when he approached again she shot him. Ruis died in surgery at a Lansing area hospital, Oleksyk said.

Complete article here: 1 dead after mask confrontation at convenience store escalates into stabbing, police shooting

Yikes. The video is out there from someone's front door cam. Brutal. That idiot attacked that policewoman.

[djAdvocate]

wow. there is a special strain of stupid in Michigan.

[irishpad]

There are all types of crazies out there.    Here is the following email I got from a conservative Catholic in California last night:  


1. The Guidance For The Use of Face Coverings which Governor Gavin Newsom used to blackmail Californians into wearing face masks, by threatening the withholding of funding for non-compliance and for making the reopening of the economy conditional on low “positivity” (the percentage of people who test positive for COVID-19), came from the State of California Public Health Department as a “Guidance” on June 18, 2020 It is not law. Guidelines are never law.

2. One should never submit to blackmail. Experience shows that those that do soon discover that the blackmail gets worse.

3. Wearing face masks can cause hypoxia in a subset of normal individuals. This is because as CO2 builds up due to the person breathing in exhaled air, some individuals have an attenuated response and do not increase their rate of breathing as much as necessary to blow off the excess CO2. As a result, they also become hypoxic which can damage the brain and other organs. For this reason alone, masks should never be compulsory. They should always be voluntary. The counter argument that doctors and nurses wear masks for many hours in surgery cannot be applied to people, especially children, who are exercising.

4. Masks can cause dyspnea.

5. Masks reduce the clarity of verbal communication and directly reduce non-verbal communication.

6. Masks make it difficult to identify people.

7. Masks are not sanitary in that they trap and grow microorganisms that can later be inhaled.

8. Masks may slow transmission of the virus but this in turn slows the progression to herd immunity.

9. Masks are an affront to human dignity giving a person a hideous appearance.

10. Masks are being used as a political tool for ideological purposes as a way for government to suppress the freedoms of the population.

I refuse to wear a mask. If any agent requests that I do so, I will simply tell them that for medical reasons, I do not wear one. If pressed for medical reasons, I will cite items 3, 4, 7 and 8.



I responded in a manner that I was not proud of.  oops.   Basically called him non Christian because he was not showing any care for other people (my words were a little harsher)  Man, can't understand people like this.  

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 15, 2020 18:29:30 GMT -5 irishpad said:

There are all types of crazies out there.    Here is the following email I got from a conservative Catholic in California last night:  


1. The Guidance For The Use of Face Coverings which Governor Gavin Newsom used to blackmail Californians into wearing face masks, by threatening the withholding of funding for non-compliance and for making the reopening of the economy conditional on low “positivity” (the percentage of people who test positive for COVID-19), came from the State of California Public Health Department as a “Guidance” on June 18, 2020 It is not law. Guidelines are never law.

2. One should never submit to blackmail. Experience shows that those that do soon discover that the blackmail gets worse.

3. Wearing face masks can cause hypoxia in a subset of normal individuals. This is because as CO2 builds up due to the person breathing in exhaled air, some individuals have an attenuated response and do not increase their rate of breathing as much as necessary to blow off the excess CO2. As a result, they also become hypoxic which can damage the brain and other organs. For this reason alone, masks should never be compulsory. They should always be voluntary. The counter argument that doctors and nurses wear masks for many hours in surgery cannot be applied to people, especially children, who are exercising.

4. Masks can cause dyspnea.

5. Masks reduce the clarity of verbal communication and directly reduce non-verbal communication.

6. Masks make it difficult to identify people.

7. Masks are not sanitary in that they trap and grow microorganisms that can later be inhaled.

8. Masks may slow transmission of the virus but this in turn slows the progression to herd immunity.

9. Masks are an affront to human dignity giving a person a hideous appearance.

10. Masks are being used as a political tool for ideological purposes as a way for government to suppress the freedoms of the population.

I refuse to wear a mask. If any agent requests that I do so, I will simply tell them that for medical reasons, I do not wear one. If pressed for medical reasons, I will cite items 3, 4, 7 and 8.



I responded in a manner that I was not proud of.  oops.   Basically called him non Christian because he was not showing any care for other people (my words were a little harsher)  Man, can't understand people like this.  

I am impressed they used dyspnea correctly

[dondub]

Jul 15, 2020 18:38:52 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Jul 15, 2020 18:29:30 GMT -5 irishpad said:

There are all types of crazies out there.    Here is the following email I got from a conservative Catholic in California last night:  


1. The Guidance For The Use of Face Coverings which Governor Gavin Newsom used to blackmail Californians into wearing face masks, by threatening the withholding of funding for non-compliance and for making the reopening of the economy conditional on low “positivity” (the percentage of people who test positive for COVID-19), came from the State of California Public Health Department as a “Guidance” on June 18, 2020 It is not law. Guidelines are never law.

2. One should never submit to blackmail. Experience shows that those that do soon discover that the blackmail gets worse.

3. Wearing face masks can cause hypoxia in a subset of normal individuals. This is because as CO2 builds up due to the person breathing in exhaled air, some individuals have an attenuated response and do not increase their rate of breathing as much as necessary to blow off the excess CO2. As a result, they also become hypoxic which can damage the brain and other organs. For this reason alone, masks should never be compulsory. They should always be voluntary. The counter argument that doctors and nurses wear masks for many hours in surgery cannot be applied to people, especially children, who are exercising.

4. Masks can cause dyspnea.

5. Masks reduce the clarity of verbal communication and directly reduce non-verbal communication.

6. Masks make it difficult to identify people.

7. Masks are not sanitary in that they trap and grow microorganisms that can later be inhaled.

8. Masks may slow transmission of the virus but this in turn slows the progression to herd immunity.

9. Masks are an affront to human dignity giving a person a hideous appearance.

10. Masks are being used as a political tool for ideological purposes as a way for government to suppress the freedoms of the population.

I refuse to wear a mask. If any agent requests that I do so, I will simply tell them that for medical reasons, I do not wear one. If pressed for medical reasons, I will cite items 3, 4, 7 and 8.



I responded in a manner that I was not proud of.  oops.   Basically called him non Christian because he was not showing any care for other people (my words were a little harsher)  Man, can't understand people like this.  

I am impressed they used dyspnea correctly

They also did dipshit correctly.