Would Trump drop out?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jun 30, 2020 12:35:59 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Jun 30, 2020 12:13:50 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

He might be hard pressed to find someone reputable to write for him.   If he writes like he talks, that book would be an editor's nightmare.

Cardboard picture book should be manageable ( they better stock up on orange printer color) and the title could be "trump, fastest ever from the White House to the Big House" subtitled MAGA. That takes care of 90% or so of the text 

How about a coloring book?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

If OJ Simpson could get his book published I am sure Trump could.   His diehard followers will be able to spend hours dissecting it and explaining to all us non-true believers what Trump REALLY means all while praising his book for telling it like it.s

[happyhoix]

Jun 30, 2020 12:18:25 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

He would probably use the fact that his business really needs him to focus on it due to the economic situation(not that he would admit it was his responsibility for some of the crisis, but that no one could see the situation, because it is so complicated).

Hmmm, ‘due to the hysteria from the liberals and threats from the dangerous antifa hordes I’ve had to drop out to salvage what’s left of my business so my poor children won’t have to give up their ski trips and private jets.’

And by the way, if you would like to help me rebuild the trump empire after I heroically sacrificed it to Merica please place a wad of unmarked bills wrapped in newspaper and mail it to mar a lago.

I could see that.

[laterbloomer]

Jun 30, 2020 12:03:04 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jun 30, 2020 11:07:57 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

No, polls don't matter when you win with fraud. He's not really President, he's the pretender. Remember me when the whole story finally comes out.

Has the "Do not doubt me ever" feel to it. 😁😁🤣🤣

Comparing me to Paul?!?! That's just rude!!!!! 🤔😉

[Tennesseer]

Did 'Don't doubt me.  EVER.' ever make it into the Cheesipedia thread?

[dezii]

Jun 30, 2020 7:10:13 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Fox News, of all people, had an article Monday speculating that Trump might drop out if the polls get too bad.

(I can’t post a link from my phone sorry).

My questions: would he hate the thought of losing so much he would rather bow out than lose at the polls, and has any presidential candidate ever dropped out of the race within a few months of Election Day, and if he did, who stepped in?

My first reaction is he would never just quit, but then I think about the bone spurs and I wonder if he would announce some serious but not deadly disease and step down rather than avoid the public humiliation of losing to Biden - which allows him to spend the rest of his life insisting he would have won, if he could have stayed in the race?

I posted the following the other day...not sure if it's the thread / article your referring to but runs along
similar  thoughts...
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www.yahoo.com/news/trump-fragile-mood-may-drop-152718908.html

[laterbloomer]

So who would run for the Republicans if he didn't?

[billisonboard]

Jun 30, 2020 20:11:48 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

So who would run for the Republicans if he didn't?

I think at this late date it would fall to Pence. Can't think of anyone else who has the name recognition for a national run? Romney? That would be hilarious.

[dondub]

Jun 30, 2020 20:50:19 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 30, 2020 20:11:48 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

So who would run for the Republicans if he didn't?

I think at this late date it would fall to Pence. Can't think of anyone else who has the name recognition for a national run? Romney? That would be hilarious.

Kasich

[happyhoix]

Well a president pence would extremely boring, at least, and I can’t imagine him tweeting nasty teeth. So there’s that.

He’d be the beige carpet president. Better than the dumpster fire.

[laterbloomer]

Jun 30, 2020 20:57:57 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jun 30, 2020 20:50:19 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I think at this late date it would fall to Pence. Can't think of anyone else who has the name recognition for a national run? Romney? That would be hilarious.

Kasich

How would they decide in such a short time?

[billisonboard]

Jun 30, 2020 21:50:23 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Jun 30, 2020 20:57:57 GMT -5 dondub said:

Kasich

How would they decide in such a short time?

The nominating convention is in late August. Between Trump dropping out and then, people would work to persuade delegates to the convention to vote for them. At the convention nominations would be made. Votes would be held until someone got a majority.

[thyme4change]

Jun 30, 2020 22:55:14 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jun 30, 2020 21:50:23 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

How would they decide in such a short time?

The nominating convention is in late August. Between Trump dropping out and then, people would work to persuade delegates to the convention to vote for them. At the convention nominations would be made. Votes would be held until someone got a majority.

Would delegates pledged to Trump be so bold as to go with Trump's enemy, or would they pick someone who has been up Trump's butt. Rand Paul, Guiliani, Barr, etc. Or at least someone on the crazy side of the scale Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Or maybe pick the biggest anti-immigration peeps - Kemp or Desantis. You would think there would be some kind of loyalty to the Trump philosophy. Romney and Kasich seem like a vast departure.

[billisonboard]

Jul 1, 2020 8:45:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jun 30, 2020 22:55:14 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

The nominating convention is in late August. Between Trump dropping out and then, people would work to persuade delegates to the convention to vote for them. At the convention nominations would be made. Votes would be held until someone got a majority.

Would delegates pledged to Trump be so bold as to go with Trump's enemy, or would they pick someone who has been up Trump's butt. Rand Paul, Guiliani, Barr, etc. Or at least someone on the crazy side of the scale Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Or maybe pick the biggest anti-immigration peeps - Kemp or Desantis. You would think there would be some kind of loyalty to the Trump philosophy. Romney and Kasich seem like a vast departure.

I think Kasich was offered up as a joke. I know Romney was. I think there would be a push by the professionals in the party to nominate someone with some chance of winning. Not sure the rank and file would play along. I see some pushing for Don, Jr. if Dad even hints at endorsing that move. Speculation is difficult because it is so hypothetical.

[emma1420]

Trump isn't dropping out.   For Trump there are only two results for this election.  He either wins.  Or, it's stolen from him.  There is no losing.

And honestly, I think the GOP has a huge issue right now post-Trump (whether that is in 2024 if he wins a second term or 2021).  Trump isn't going away.  He's not going to be like Bush, Clinton, even Obama.  They occasionally speak out, but generally they aren't backseat driving.  And, their media appearances now about what they are doing now, except at election time.  Trump is going to be like that.  He will be on twitter the same way he was before he was president.  He will be all over media.  He's not going away.  So what are the GOP going to do when Trump doesn't go away?  Because I think that a solid 20-30% of the GOP is still going loyal to Trump and his endorsement and opinions will matter in the republican primaries.  But, it will get to a point where many of those people won't be able to win general elections.

I just look at the senate race in Alabama in 2017.  Not even in deep red Alabama would they elect Roy Moore.  The democrat was a better option.   The same in Kansas.  The electorate wasn't about to elect Kris Kobach as governor.  So what happens when all the nominees are like Roy Moore and Kris Kobach?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I was reading an opinion article on CNN that speculated he might drop out if it means he can take the entire Republican party out with him in spite.

I could see that.

[thyme4change]

I've been thinking about the Whig party a lot. It is interesting to read how it crumbled and parsed itself out. It would be plausible for the GOP to split. If they created a moderate version, they could get lots of voters, a few leaders and syphon off a bunch of Democrats who think that party is going the wrong way. But, it would be a disastrous mess and would take a long time to get things settled. The Republicans will only let that happen if they have nothing to lose. They still dominate Governor position and state and local politics, so even if they lose the house, senate and White House, they won't be fully discouraged.

[dondub]

Jul 1, 2020 9:21:51 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jul 1, 2020 8:45:14 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Would delegates pledged to Trump be so bold as to go with Trump's enemy, or would they pick someone who has been up Trump's butt. Rand Paul, Guiliani, Barr, etc. Or at least someone on the crazy side of the scale Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton. Or maybe pick the biggest anti-immigration peeps - Kemp or Desantis. You would think there would be some kind of loyalty to the Trump philosophy. Romney and Kasich seem like a vast departure.

I think Kasich was offered up as a joke. I know Romney was. I think there would be a push by the professionals in the party to nominate someone with some chance of winning. Not sure the rank and file would play along. I see some pushing for Don, Jr. if Dad even hints at endorsing that move. Speculation is difficult because it is so hypothetical.

If you are referring to my Kasich post, I wasn’t joking. He’s exactly the kind of person the Repo-Con party needs. Bi-partisan Congressional history and executive experience as a governor. Rather bland and not a rightwing extremist.

[djAdvocate]

Jun 30, 2020 21:06:23 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Well a president pence would extremely boring, at least, and I can’t imagine him tweeting nasty teeth. So there’s that.

He’d be the beige carpet president. Better than the dumpster fire.

I am not sure Ginsberg will make it 4 more years.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 1, 2020 10:12:39 GMT -5 dondub said:

Jul 1, 2020 9:21:51 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I think Kasich was offered up as a joke. I know Romney was. I think there would be a push by the professionals in the party to nominate someone with some chance of winning. Not sure the rank and file would play along. I see some pushing for Don, Jr. if Dad even hints at endorsing that move. Speculation is difficult because it is so hypothetical.

If you are referring to my Kasich post, I wasn’t joking. He’s exactly the kind of person the Repo-Con party needs. Bi-partisan Congressional history and executive experience as a governor. Rather bland and not a rightwing extremist.

I am not sure they can win that way.  and don't mistake what I am saying here.  I think they SHOULD be able to.  but the GOP is really not a big tent party any more.  that is why Kasich lost last time, and that is why he is likely to lose this time.

the GOP is the party of the aggrieved under Trump.  they don't stand for anything positive, despite the slogan.  they are there to salve the injury felt by those that feel their status is being eroded.  I honestly don't see how you can market that idea in the way that Biden markets group hugging.

[tbop77]

If you review his history in business, when the going gets tough:  file BK
In that sense, I could see him dropping out.  And if you think his playing the victim now is bad.....

And think about all the conspiracy theories he could churn up with his base.  It definitely wouldn't be the end to his reality show.  

[djAdvocate]

Jul 1, 2020 10:22:21 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

If you review his history in business, when the going gets tough:  file BK
In that sense, I could see him dropping out.  And if you think his playing the victim now is bad.....

And think about all the conspiracy theories he could churn up with his base.  It definitely wouldn't be the end to his reality show.  

that is because he doesn't view business or government as anything more than a tool to serve him or those who agree with him.

he is like an icebreaker that leaves victims in his wake instead of ice cubes.

[tbop77]

Jul 1, 2020 10:25:41 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 1, 2020 10:22:21 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

If you review his history in business, when the going gets tough:  file BK
In that sense, I could see him dropping out.  And if you think his playing the victim now is bad.....

And think about all the conspiracy theories he could churn up with his base.  It definitely wouldn't be the end to his reality show.  

that is because he doesn't view business or government as anything more than a tool to serve him or those who agree with him.

he is like an icebreaker that leaves victims in his wake instead of ice cubes.

Yep....and I worry that if per chance he did drop out or is not re-elected, he is going to drive this country right into a civil war.  His racist base is not going to go quietly.  

[djAdvocate]

Jul 1, 2020 10:31:36 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Jul 1, 2020 10:25:41 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

that is because he doesn't view business or government as anything more than a tool to serve him or those who agree with him.

he is like an icebreaker that leaves victims in his wake instead of ice cubes.

Yep....and I worry that if per chance he did drop out or is not re-elected, he is going to drive this country right into a civil war.  His racist base is not going to go quietly.  

if Democrats think that Biden is going to be the kubaya candidate, they should dispense with that right away. there is no way to shove this jackass back in a box, imo.  I keep hoping he will get sick and die, because that is the only way we get rid of him- and I say that with great reluctance, because I never wish ill on anyone. 

[Wisconsin Beth]

He's what, 74?  Average male life expectancy in the US is 76?  I don't see him making it to his 90s so I don't think we'll have him backseat Presidenting for too long once he's out of the White House. 

[pulmonarymd]

I think you are right about the hard core racists. But, I think the ones on the edge will go back to keeping it under wraps as they did before, because they do not want to be social pariahs. I think we would see more of a status quo as we did before trump. Overt racism will also be less of a winning strategy

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 1, 2020 10:41:47 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

He's what, 74?  Average male life expectancy in the US is 76?  I don't see him making it to his 90s so I don't think we'll have him backseat Presidenting for too long once he's out of the White House. 

If you make it to your mid 70s, he will likely live into his 80s

[laterbloomer]

Jul 1, 2020 10:31:36 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Jul 1, 2020 10:25:41 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

that is because he doesn't view business or government as anything more than a tool to serve him or those who agree with him.

he is like an icebreaker that leaves victims in his wake instead of ice cubes.

Yep....and I worry that if per chance he did drop out or is not re-elected, he is going to drive this country right into a civil war.  His racist base is not going to go quietly.  

I'm starting to think that is where you guys are headed no matter who wins. You guys have irreconcilable differences with or without Trump. I'm just hoping the good guys win.

[tbop77]

Jul 1, 2020 10:38:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 1, 2020 10:31:36 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Yep....and I worry that if per chance he did drop out or is not re-elected, he is going to drive this country right into a civil war.  His racist base is not going to go quietly.  

if Democrats think that Biden is going to be the kubaya candidate, they should dispense with that right away. there is no way to shove this jackass back in a box, imo.  I keep hoping he will get sick and die, because that is the only way we get rid of him- and I say that with great reluctance, because I never wish ill on anyone. 

Well...that is one of the conspiracy theories I see posted by "conservatives" on FB.  Watch very closely who Biden picks, that is who the deep state is going to put in as our next President.  

[laterbloomer]

Jul 1, 2020 11:05:38 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Jul 1, 2020 10:38:24 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

if Democrats think that Biden is going to be the kubaya candidate, they should dispense with that right away. there is no way to shove this jackass back in a box, imo.  I keep hoping he will get sick and die, because that is the only way we get rid of him- and I say that with great reluctance, because I never wish ill on anyone. 

Well...that is one of the conspiracy theories I see posted by "conservatives" on FB.  Watch very closely who Biden picks, that is who the deep state is going to put in as our next President.  

I think DJ meant Trump needs to get sick and die...I hope that's what he meant.