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Post by happyhoix on Jun 30, 2020 7:10:13 GMT -5
Fox News, of all people, had an article Monday speculating that Trump might drop out if the polls get too bad.
(I can’t post a link from my phone sorry).
My questions: would he hate the thought of losing so much he would rather bow out than lose at the polls, and has any presidential candidate ever dropped out of the race within a few months of Election Day, and if he did, who stepped in?
My first reaction is he would never just quit, but then I think about the bone spurs and I wonder if he would announce some serious but not deadly disease and step down rather than avoid the public humiliation of losing to Biden - which allows him to spend the rest of his life insisting he would have won, if he could have stayed in the race?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 30, 2020 7:23:27 GMT -5
He strikes me as the type of person that *if* he could spin dropping out as him being the magnanimous hero who saved the republican party and America by agreeing to drop out of the race he would certainly do so, especially if that cast him in a better light and got better book deals than continuing forward would.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jun 30, 2020 7:27:13 GMT -5
IMO his ego wouldn't let him drop out. Never mind using the word "quit". Yes he could spin it as saving the GOP after being the best POTUS of all time.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 30, 2020 8:39:05 GMT -5
I think it is entirely possible he would drop out to avoid being a "loser". He could spin it in 100 different ways so it looks like he had no choice. He doesn't care how it would affect anyone else. He has a history of declaring bankruptcy no matter the collateral damage. Just another way to walk away to allow him to control the narrative. Would be interesting to see what his supporters would do on election day in this scenario.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 30, 2020 8:53:50 GMT -5
Should trump drop out, he does have state courts waiting to charge him with state crimes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 30, 2020 8:58:10 GMT -5
I think it is entirely possible he would drop out to avoid being a "loser". He could spin it in 100 different ways so it looks like he had no choice. He doesn't care how it would affect anyone else. He has a history of declaring bankruptcy no matter the collateral damage. Just another way to walk away to allow him to control the narrative. Would be interesting to see what his supporters would do on election day in this scenario. trump may try and even succeed for a short time controlling the narrative but history books will not be affected by his spin. I suppose if one is dead the history books don't matter. But trump's descendants will be stuck with his last name tarnished over time. Maybe they will go back to President Trump.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Jun 30, 2020 9:02:38 GMT -5
One can only pray this happens. Let the loser go.
They just announced US travelers will not be allowed into Europe along with Russia and Brazil, good for them. I would do the same.
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Post by mary2029 on Jun 30, 2020 9:09:45 GMT -5
I wonder if this is just a story to try to get the public to exclaim and tweet "Oh no! Trump, don't think about dropping out. You are the bestest president ever. The US needs you. We don't want Biden who is "literally hiding in the basement.""
Trump would get reenergized if those types of comments filled his twitter feed rather than The Lincoln Project posts or stories of Covid or Russian paying for killing US soldiers.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 30, 2020 9:14:41 GMT -5
I think it is entirely possible he would drop out to avoid being a "loser". He could spin it in 100 different ways so it looks like he had no choice. He doesn't care how it would affect anyone else. He has a history of declaring bankruptcy no matter the collateral damage. Just another way to walk away to allow him to control the narrative. Would be interesting to see what his supporters would do on election day in this scenario. trump may try and even succeed for a short time controlling the narrative but history books will not be affected by his spin. I suppose if one is dead the history books don't matter. But trump's descendants will be stuck with his last name tarnished over time. Maybe they will go back to President Trump. It is nice you think trump cares about his descendents
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Post by mary2029 on Jun 30, 2020 9:20:30 GMT -5
He cares about his brand and the number of people who see the word Trump. Remember when he made a stupid comment about Washington should have named Mount Vernon after himself?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 9:56:25 GMT -5
Should trump drop out, he does have state courts waiting to charge him with state crimes. State courts don't charge people with crimes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 30, 2020 9:59:38 GMT -5
Should trump drop out, he does have state courts waiting to charge him with state crimes. State courts don't charge people with crimes. Whatever ever. What ever crimes trump will be charged with and if convicted, no future president can commute the sentence nor forgive the crime.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 30, 2020 10:00:20 GMT -5
Should trump drop out, he does have state courts waiting to charge him with state crimes. State courts don't charge people with crimes. Good catch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 10:06:51 GMT -5
State courts don't charge people with crimes. Whatever ever. What ever crimes trump will be charged with and if convicted, no future president can commute the sentence nor forgive the crime. That level of knowledge of state courts, held by many, tells me he has little to worry about. I would research it, but the 'maybe this might happen' doesn't really hold my interest.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 30, 2020 10:09:42 GMT -5
Whatever ever. What ever crimes trump will be charged with and if convicted, no future president can commute the sentence nor forgive the crime. That level of knowledge of state courts, held by many, tells me he has little to worry about. I would research it, but the 'maybe this might happen' doesn't really hold my interest. New York is waiting for trump to leave office.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 10:11:52 GMT -5
That level of knowledge of state courts, held by many, tells me he has little to worry about. I would research it, but the 'maybe this might happen' doesn't really hold my interest. New York is waiting for trump to leave office. A lot more than New York are waiting for Trump to leave office.
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Post by dondub on Jun 30, 2020 10:16:27 GMT -5
State courts don't charge people with crimes. Whatever ever. What ever crimes trump will be charged with and if convicted, no future president can commute the sentence nor forgive the crime. I don’t see any of Trump’s supporters giving a shit about his criminal history.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 30, 2020 10:37:20 GMT -5
Whatever ever. What ever crimes trump will be charged with and if convicted, no future president can commute the sentence nor forgive the crime. That level of knowledge of state courts, held by many, tells me he has little to worry about. I would research it, but the 'maybe this might happen' doesn't really hold my interest. How does a lack of knowledge by the general population impact the operations of state courts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 10:45:44 GMT -5
That level of knowledge of state courts, held by many, tells me he has little to worry about. I would research it, but the 'maybe this might happen' doesn't really hold my interest. How does a lack of knowledge by the general population impact the operations of state courts? It doesn't. It might help a candidate running against Trump in an election. Unfortunately, the number of 'maybes' produced by his detractors, has reached a stage where less are paying attention to it. It's starting to come across as bs to many, without even looking into it.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jun 30, 2020 11:07:57 GMT -5
No, polls don't matter when you win with fraud. He's not really President, he's the pretender. Remember me when the whole story finally comes out.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 30, 2020 11:27:39 GMT -5
trump may try and even succeed for a short time controlling the narrative but history books will not be affected by his spin. I suppose if one is dead the history books don't matter. But trump's descendants will be stuck with his last name tarnished over time. Maybe they will go back to President Trump. It is nice you think trump cares about his descendents Way back at the beginning of this nightmare someone asked trump what he thought about global warming and he said he didn’t care because he would be dead if it happened. So I would agree he doesn’t care about his descendants.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 30, 2020 11:35:12 GMT -5
How does a lack of knowledge by the general population impact the operations of state courts? It doesn't. It might help a candidate running against Trump in an election. Unfortunately, the number of 'maybes' produced by his detractors, has reached a stage where less are paying attention to it. It's starting to come across as bs to many, without even looking into it. Perhaps. If true, how many will decide that the best way to deal with it is to not renew the shit show for four more years?
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 30, 2020 12:03:04 GMT -5
No, polls don't matter when you win with fraud. He's not really President, he's the pretender. Remember me when the whole story finally comes out. Has the "Do not doubt me ever" feel to it. 😁😁🤣🤣
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Post by hurley1980 on Jun 30, 2020 12:12:17 GMT -5
I feel like if Trump did drop out he would spin it as America doesn't deserve him. He's been the best president ever and he is too good for this country, blah blah blah. Since no one appreciates him, he's taking his ball and going home. Then his followers could blame in on the liberal left for not loving him enough.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 30, 2020 12:13:50 GMT -5
He strikes me as the type of person that *if* he could spin dropping out as him being the magnanimous hero who saved the republican party and America by agreeing to drop out of the race he would certainly do so, especially if that cast him in a better light and got better book deals than continuing forward would. He might be hard pressed to find someone reputable to write for him. If he writes like he talks, that book would be an editor's nightmare.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 30, 2020 12:13:51 GMT -5
I feel like if Trump did drop out he would spin it as America doesn't deserve him. He's been the best president ever and he is too good for this country, blah blah blah. Since no one appreciates him, he's taking his ball and going home. Then his followers could blame in on the liberal left for not loving him enough. I will wear that title proudly. I will get a t-shirt that says "I didn't love Trump enough, so he quit. Your Welcome."
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 30, 2020 12:15:24 GMT -5
I could see him dropping out in order to avoid total failure. The biggest question would be what kind of spin that he would put on it. I really doubt he's use health for an issue, his ego won't let him.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 30, 2020 12:18:25 GMT -5
He would probably use the fact that his business really needs him to focus on it due to the economic situation(not that he would admit it was his responsibility for some of the crisis, but that no one could see the situation, because it is so complicated).
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 30, 2020 12:35:59 GMT -5
He strikes me as the type of person that *if* he could spin dropping out as him being the magnanimous hero who saved the republican party and America by agreeing to drop out of the race he would certainly do so, especially if that cast him in a better light and got better book deals than continuing forward would. He might be hard pressed to find someone reputable to write for him. If he writes like he talks, that book would be an editor's nightmare. Cardboard picture book should be manageable ( they better stock up on orange printer color) and the title could be "trump, fastest ever from the White House to the Big House" subtitled MAGA. That takes care of 90% or so of the text
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