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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 26, 2020 12:50:52 GMT -5
Really interesting thread with graphs of Covid in different countries. US seems to differ but not if looking at sections instead of entire country. Similar pattern seen - peak then falls pretty similar to rise perhaps due to behavioral changes t.co/G5P7aO4dk5?amp=1The US is hard to compare. We are so large, so unevenly spread out and have so many people. Comparing the entire US to (say) Germany is difficult. But California, Texas, Florida and Arizona are all a mess right now. Like it or not, we are your fellow Americans, and it matters. True, but compared to the whole EU, which has 100 million more people is fair. ANd our results still suck in comparison. And they are a multinational conglomeration, just like us since the president and his republican co-conspirators at the national level have abdicated responsibility
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 26, 2020 13:32:52 GMT -5
The US is hard to compare. We are so large, so unevenly spread out and have so many people. Comparing the entire US to (say) Germany is difficult. But California, Texas, Florida and Arizona are all a mess right now. Like it or not, we are your fellow Americans, and it matters. True, but compared to the whole EU, which has 100 million more people is fair. ANd our results still suck in comparison. And they are a multinational conglomeration, just like us since the president and his republican co-conspirators at the national level have abdicated responsibility I am fine saying "We suck compared to Europe". It is when we say "We suck compared to EVERYONE" that we are being disingenuous. If people want to maintain credibility, honesty and accuracy is important.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 26, 2020 13:38:09 GMT -5
True, but compared to the whole EU, which has 100 million more people is fair. ANd our results still suck in comparison. And they are a multinational conglomeration, just like us since the president and his republican co-conspirators at the national level have abdicated responsibility I am fine saying "We suck compared to Europe". It is when we say "We suck compared to EVERYONE" that we are being disingenuous. If people want to maintain credibility, honesty and accuracy is important. Fair enough, but if we are compared to what I would consider our pears(EU countries, UK, Canada, Australia), we suck, and it should not be the case, given what should have been our advantages, and the fact that we had other countries experience. If we are supposed to be the most technologically and scientifically advanced country in the world, with supposed world class medical system, and the leader of the free world, our response has been horrible, and we have done a piss poor job of leading.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 26, 2020 13:42:02 GMT -5
I am fine saying "We suck compared to Europe". It is when we say "We suck compared to EVERYONE" that we are being disingenuous. If people want to maintain credibility, honesty and accuracy is important. Fair enough, but if we are compared to what I would consider our pears(EU countries, UK, Canada, Australia), we suck, and it should not be the case, given what should have been our advantages, and the fact that we had other countries experience. If we are supposed to be the most technologically and scientifically advanced country in the world, with supposed world class medical system, and the leader of the free world, our response has been horrible, and we have done a piss poor job of leading. As long as you say - 'compared to other developed countries' or 'compared to other areas that have a similar make-up as us' it is fine. But don't say "Comapred to the WHOLE WORLD" and then use numbers from only our sister countries. It just is a lie.
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