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Post by andi9899 on Jun 8, 2020 11:15:54 GMT -5
When will Karens learn to just mind their business and not assume that everyone with dark skin is from a foreign country? Perhaps is more get knocked down a peg or two, some of this will stop. Arizona ‘Karen’ slapped across the face for telling woman to ‘go back to Mexico’ flip.it/jqUTXBLet's note that the girl she told to go back to Mexico is NATIVE AMERICAN, not Mexican. Her ancestors are actually from America unlike Karen's.
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Post by busymom on Jun 8, 2020 11:36:53 GMT -5
Sadly, I saw, and heard of this behavior more frequently when I was living "down South". There are a lot of entitled blondes (and, I'm saying this as someone who is a natural blonde) who feel "empowered" now to say whatever pops into their head to the nearest "non-white" person they encounter. One of my neighbors, who happens to be Hispanic, was occasionally a victim of a "Karen", as in "go back where you came from". Um, he lives in Florida, but thankfully he has a long fuse & chooses to ignore mean comments. I'm sure you can blame the current occupant of the White House for emboldening these idiots.
I suspect most victims of these "Karens" don't respond accordingly, because they don't want trouble with the local police department.
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Why are Karens always front and center at trump rallies? Also an interesting article below the picture. Political Peroxide Blonde privilege. Blonde hair is at least 11,000 years old. The variety we’re now most familiar with began as a genetic mutation in northern Europe, where the sun is weak: Light hair allows more vitamin D to trickle in through the scalp, the theory goes, which is useful when the sky is cold and dark. It wasn’t the first hair color that people had, so it was rare, and its being rare made it sexually desirable, and its being sexually desirable meant it spread, and then there was a bit more of it. Eventually, blondness spread south: Many of the Greek gods were golden-haired, as were many heroes of the Iliad. People missing the mutation started figuring out ways to ape it very early on with primitive versions of Sun-In. In ancient Rome, they used pigeon shit and also a combination of alum, wood ash, and quicklime. During the Renaissance, it was horse urine or lemons squirted onto the hair, which was then fitted into an open visor called a solana. It didn’t take long for stereotypes besides sexiness to attach to the look. Marie Antoinette’s friend Rosalie Duthé was a legendary courtesan with a habit of taking long pauses before she spoke. She was frequently the mistress of someone famous and powerful — she was even gifted to 20-year-old Prince Louis Philippe I by his father so that he could learn a thing or two. When a 1775 one-act play called Les Curiosités de la Foire sent up Duthé’s behavior, Paris was amused, and historians tend to agree that that moment was the birth of a notion that persists 250 years later: the blonde as slutty and dumb. And then, of course, there are the politics of hair color. Attributes associated with whiteness — light skin, narrow noses — have dominated American beauty ideals as long as there’s been such a thing. Which means that blondness has always been … charged: The ’50s gave us Doris Day, who once said that her only ambition ever had been to “be a housewife in a good marriage” (“Preordination had other plans”). To be blonde was to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart — which implied also, of course, that to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart, meant being blonde. Betty was blonde, Veronica was trouble. Ditto Sandy and Rizzo. Hitchcock liked to cast blondes because he said they made the best victims: “The color was virgin snow that shows up the bloody footprints.” Complete article here: Political Peroxide - Blonde privilege
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Post by swamp on Jun 8, 2020 12:00:33 GMT -5
I'm white and I'm sick of white people.
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Post by mary2029 on Jun 8, 2020 12:42:04 GMT -5
Oh good, another group to be prejudiced against.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 8, 2020 13:01:14 GMT -5
Blonde hair is at least 11,000 years old. The variety we’re now most familiar with began as a genetic mutation in northern Europe, where the sun is weak: Light hair allows more vitamin D to trickle in through the scalp, the theory goes, which is useful when the sky is cold and dark.
And yet, the Inuit, who also live where the sun is weak, have hair that is black as night.
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Why are Karens always front and center at trump rallies? Also an interesting article below the picture. Political Peroxide Blonde privilege. Blonde hair is at least 11,000 years old. The variety we’re now most familiar with began as a genetic mutation in northern Europe, where the sun is weak: Light hair allows more vitamin D to trickle in through the scalp, the theory goes, which is useful when the sky is cold and dark. It wasn’t the first hair color that people had, so it was rare, and its being rare made it sexually desirable, and its being sexually desirable meant it spread, and then there was a bit more of it. Eventually, blondness spread south: Many of the Greek gods were golden-haired, as were many heroes of the Iliad. People missing the mutation started figuring out ways to ape it very early on with primitive versions of Sun-In. In ancient Rome, they used pigeon shit and also a combination of alum, wood ash, and quicklime. During the Renaissance, it was horse urine or lemons squirted onto the hair, which was then fitted into an open visor called a solana. It didn’t take long for stereotypes besides sexiness to attach to the look. Marie Antoinette’s friend Rosalie Duthé was a legendary courtesan with a habit of taking long pauses before she spoke. She was frequently the mistress of someone famous and powerful — she was even gifted to 20-year-old Prince Louis Philippe I by his father so that he could learn a thing or two. When a 1775 one-act play called Les Curiosités de la Foire sent up Duthé’s behavior, Paris was amused, and historians tend to agree that that moment was the birth of a notion that persists 250 years later: the blonde as slutty and dumb. And then, of course, there are the politics of hair color. Attributes associated with whiteness — light skin, narrow noses — have dominated American beauty ideals as long as there’s been such a thing. Which means that blondness has always been … charged: The ’50s gave us Doris Day, who once said that her only ambition ever had been to “be a housewife in a good marriage” (“Preordination had other plans”). To be blonde was to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart — which implied also, of course, that to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart, meant being blonde. Betty was blonde, Veronica was trouble. Ditto Sandy and Rizzo. Hitchcock liked to cast blondes because he said they made the best victims: “The color was virgin snow that shows up the bloody footprints.” Complete article here: Political Peroxide - Blonde privilegeIs it bad I first thought after seeing the picture but not reading that it'd be something related back to trump's daughter having blonde hair? Lol I dunno why.
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Post by swamp on Jun 8, 2020 13:21:53 GMT -5
Oh good, another group to be prejudiced against. entitled bitches aren't entitled to any protections under the law, nor have they been subject to years of systemic racism. Fuck them.
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Post by swamp on Jun 8, 2020 13:41:21 GMT -5
Why are Karens always front and center at trump rallies? Also an interesting article below the picture. Political Peroxide Blonde privilege. Blonde hair is at least 11,000 years old. The variety we’re now most familiar with began as a genetic mutation in northern Europe, where the sun is weak: Light hair allows more vitamin D to trickle in through the scalp, the theory goes, which is useful when the sky is cold and dark. It wasn’t the first hair color that people had, so it was rare, and its being rare made it sexually desirable, and its being sexually desirable meant it spread, and then there was a bit more of it. Eventually, blondness spread south: Many of the Greek gods were golden-haired, as were many heroes of the Iliad. People missing the mutation started figuring out ways to ape it very early on with primitive versions of Sun-In. In ancient Rome, they used pigeon shit and also a combination of alum, wood ash, and quicklime. During the Renaissance, it was horse urine or lemons squirted onto the hair, which was then fitted into an open visor called a solana. It didn’t take long for stereotypes besides sexiness to attach to the look. Marie Antoinette’s friend Rosalie Duthé was a legendary courtesan with a habit of taking long pauses before she spoke. She was frequently the mistress of someone famous and powerful — she was even gifted to 20-year-old Prince Louis Philippe I by his father so that he could learn a thing or two. When a 1775 one-act play called Les Curiosités de la Foire sent up Duthé’s behavior, Paris was amused, and historians tend to agree that that moment was the birth of a notion that persists 250 years later: the blonde as slutty and dumb. And then, of course, there are the politics of hair color. Attributes associated with whiteness — light skin, narrow noses — have dominated American beauty ideals as long as there’s been such a thing. Which means that blondness has always been … charged: The ’50s gave us Doris Day, who once said that her only ambition ever had been to “be a housewife in a good marriage” (“Preordination had other plans”). To be blonde was to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart — which implied also, of course, that to be a good American woman, pure of intention and heart, meant being blonde. Betty was blonde, Veronica was trouble. Ditto Sandy and Rizzo. Hitchcock liked to cast blondes because he said they made the best victims: “The color was virgin snow that shows up the bloody footprints.” Complete article here: Political Peroxide - Blonde privilegeIs it bad I first thought after seeing the picture but not reading that it'd be something related back to trump's daughter having blonde hair? Lol I dunno why. that's cute that you think Ivanka is really a blonde.
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Post by justme on Jun 8, 2020 13:46:40 GMT -5
Is it bad I first thought after seeing the picture but not reading that it'd be something related back to trump's daughter having blonde hair? Lol I dunno why. that's cute that you think Ivanka is really a blonde. Like the women in the photo are actually blonde...
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Oh good, another group to be prejudiced against. entitled bitches aren't entitled to any protections under the law, nor have they been subject to years of systemic racism. Fuck them. Agreed... entitled people are not and should not be protected by law. Nor should anybody be subject to years of systemic racism. However, we should be lifting everyone up rather than squashing the "entitled" ones down. A person can be racist, but a whole group of people are not necessarily racists.
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Post by oped on Jun 8, 2020 14:04:49 GMT -5
That bitch didn’t want to be lifted up. She wanted to maintain her self appointed pedestal by oppressing anyone who didn’t look like her... if she gets trampled in a fight for equality I don’t much fucking care...
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 8, 2020 14:09:17 GMT -5
Is it bad I first thought after seeing the picture but not reading that it'd be something related back to trump's daughter having blonde hair? Lol I dunno why. that's cute that you think Ivanka is really a blonde. It's cute that you think Ivanka is human,instead of some kind of demon spawn.
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Post by swamp on Jun 8, 2020 14:20:02 GMT -5
that's cute that you think Ivanka is really a blonde. It's cute that you think Ivanka is human,instead of some kind of demon spawn. Hey, now, I never said she was human. I think the hair extensions hide the horns, and the LaBoutins hide the cloven hooves.
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I'm white and I'm sick of white people. I sincerely hope I don’t offend you, but I think it’s funny every time I see you say something like this.
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Post by swamp on Jun 8, 2020 14:30:49 GMT -5
I'm white and I'm sick of white people. I sincerely hope I don’t offend you, but I think it’s funny every time I see you say something like this. No, not at all!!
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 8, 2020 15:13:41 GMT -5
Oh good, another group to be prejudiced against. entitled bitches aren't entitled to any protections under the law, nor have they been subject to years of systemic racism. Fuck them. Think I will pass on that. Entitled bitches aren't worth the effort.
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Post by swamp on Jun 10, 2020 11:39:05 GMT -5
I want to know where all these entitled bitches are coming from?
Who goes up to and yells a a complete stranger? You're just asking to get decked. Maybe more Karens should get decked when they open their big fat pie holes to spew racist crap.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 10, 2020 12:52:36 GMT -5
When will Karens learn to just mind their business and not assume that everyone with dark skin is from a foreign country? Perhaps is more get knocked down a peg or two, some of this will stop. I'm always little amazed when white women aren't aware of how "White Privilege" might be hurting them as well as people of color. It seems to me that the "privilege" is Hierarchical with white guys at the top. And yes white women get a lot of advantages by it, but NOT as many as the guys get. I have to wonder what the Karens are afraid of losing if People of Color are treated like "humans" with all the rights that the people at the top of hierarchy have. Maybe the Karens would be better off as well... maybe they (and ALL women) would have access to those rights as well.
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Post by Tiny on Jun 10, 2020 13:09:40 GMT -5
I want to know where all these entitled bitches are coming from? Who goes up to and yells a a complete stranger? You're just asking to get decked. Maybe more Karens should get decked when they open their big fat pie holes to spew racist crap. I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different.
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I want to know where all these entitled bitches are coming from? Who goes up to and yells a a complete stranger? You're just asking to get decked. Maybe more Karens should get decked when they open their big fat pie holes to spew racist crap. I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different. I have a friend with the last name Rodriguez who is Spanish (like Spain spanish) not Hispanic, and is probably 4th generation American. He has been told to go back to where he came from because he disagreed with someone politically. People suck.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 10, 2020 14:10:17 GMT -5
I want to know where all these entitled bitches are coming from? Who goes up to and yells a a complete stranger? You're just asking to get decked. Maybe more Karens should get decked when they open their big fat pie holes to spew racist crap. I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different. It may not be the whole pie white women get but it's a hell of a lot bigger crumb than the crumbs an African American woman might get. Therefore in exchange for the illusion of having been granted power in exchange for being good little cooperative girls screw women's rights or minority rights, or gay rights or the religious rights of non-Christians. I forgot which book I was reading that discussed this. So long as they are better than somebody, anybody, people will do what it takes to maintain their small sliver privilege even if it's at their own expense.
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Post by swamp on Jun 10, 2020 14:14:33 GMT -5
I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different. It may not be the whole pie white women get but it's a hell of a lot bigger crumb than the crumbs an African American woman might get. Therefore in exchange for the illusion of having been granted power in exchange for being good little cooperative girls screw women's rights or minority rights, or gay rights or the religious rights of non-Christians. I forgot which book I was reading that discussed this. So long as they are better than somebody, anybody, people will do what it takes to maintain their small sliver privilege even if it's at their own expense. I do a lot of real estate. There is nearby village wherein a few of the developments from post World War II have restrictive covenants that do not allow anyone other than causasians to live in those developments. That's a pretty bold rule coming from Italian factory workers, who were discriminated against themselves.
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Because then 'Karen' will need to get a self supporting job? Glad I'm brown haired, short and stocky!
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Post by Tiny on Jun 10, 2020 15:50:03 GMT -5
I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different. It may not be the whole pie white women get but it's a hell of a lot bigger crumb than the crumbs an African American woman might get. Therefore in exchange for the illusion of having been granted power in exchange for being good little cooperative girls screw women's rights or minority rights, or gay rights or the religious rights of non-Christians. I forgot which book I was reading that discussed this. So long as they are better than somebody, anybody, people will do what it takes to maintain their small sliver privilege even if it's at their own expense. But, it's not a "pie" - no one gets less "rights" or becomes less "human" when other people are made "equal" or no longer dehumanized. Maybe there are just a lot of white women unknowingly living lives of 'quiet desperation'??
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Post by Tiny on Jun 10, 2020 15:56:39 GMT -5
I've heard from friends who are not white (Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Indian) that pretty much in any situation when whites feel the need to be assertive (or important) they will go immediately to "race" as their first or second "attack". Playing the race card puts them at instant advantage - it's a thinly veiled threat of big violence. My not white friends all have stories of being told to "go back where they came from" of being threatened with violence or having the police called... for minor or no social blunder at all. And for the record - my non-white friends are anywhere from 2nd generation to 4th generation American Citizens. All of them have way better educational backgrounds than I do. All of them have parents with white collar jobs or are doctors, nurses, professors, lawyers, etc. And they've all had that race card played against them. If the person doing the minor or none at all blunder had been white the interaction would have been dramatically different. I have a friend with the last name Rodriguez who is Spanish (like Spain spanish) not Hispanic, and is probably 4th generation American. He has been told to go back to where he came from because he disagreed with someone politically. People suck. When you are the witness to something like this - what can be done? I know I've seen it happen and stood by partly because as a woman I didn't want to incite violence against me... I hate it when a stranger calls me Bitch or uses the c-word. Maybe having a script or some plan for dealing with it when it's seen would be helpful. We teach kids what to say or do when they are confronted by bully-ing. Heck, my employer even provided some 'words' and phrases to use when dealing with a co-worker who may have said/done something questionable/offensive. I have no idea what to do when someone starts in with an 'uncomfortable' to me confrontation with someone else at the grocery store or fast food joint...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 10, 2020 15:56:56 GMT -5
It may not be the whole pie white women get but it's a hell of a lot bigger crumb than the crumbs an African American woman might get. Therefore in exchange for the illusion of having been granted power in exchange for being good little cooperative girls screw women's rights or minority rights, or gay rights or the religious rights of non-Christians. I forgot which book I was reading that discussed this. So long as they are better than somebody, anybody, people will do what it takes to maintain their small sliver privilege even if it's at their own expense. But, it's not a "pie" - no one gets less "rights" or becomes less "human" when other people are made "equal" or no longer dehumanized. Maybe there are just a lot of white women unknowingly living lives of 'quiet desperation'?? No they don't. But if you admit that others are dehumanized and not equal then you also have to acknowledge, at least as a woman, that you are screwed too. Clinging to the approval you get and the "power' you get for being white allows you to ignore everything else. The book whose title I can't remember talked about this in reference to the South during the reformation. Not only were rich white Southerns afraid of their slaves rising up there were also a heck of a lot of poor white people who were pissed off too. If they joined forces with the newly freed slaves all those rich people were up a creek without a paddle. HOWEVER if they could continue to brand African Americans as less than and point out to the poor white Southern person that at least he was better than THAT then the poor white Southern person would shut up and continue to follow the rich white person. The only thing more powerful than their anger towards the rich was the smug satisfaction they got from the illusion of at least being superior over black people. Same thing applies here. Rich white men in power know they can't count on just rich white men to keep them in power. They have to have an army of supporters who feel they too benefit from toeing the line and keeping them in power. So in exchange for looking the other way on women's rights, for example, we'll pat you on the head and let you think you're one of the guys since you're white. We all know you really aren't our equal but we will do what we can to make sure you're still superior to that person over there. So we can count on your vote still?
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 10, 2020 16:33:53 GMT -5
I want to know where all these entitled bitches are coming from? ... Originally high school cheerleading squads. You're welcome.
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Post by anciana on Jun 10, 2020 16:37:47 GMT -5
It may not be the whole pie white women get but it's a hell of a lot bigger crumb than the crumbs an African American woman might get. Therefore in exchange for the illusion of having been granted power in exchange for being good little cooperative girls screw women's rights or minority rights, or gay rights or the religious rights of non-Christians. I forgot which book I was reading that discussed this. So long as they are better than somebody, anybody, people will do what it takes to maintain their small sliver privilege even if it's at their own expense. But, it's not a "pie" - no one gets less "rights" or becomes less "human" when other people are made "equal" or no longer dehumanized. Maybe there are just a lot of white women unknowingly living lives of 'quiet desperation'?? They lose the privileges they were so used to getting, that they mistook them for "rights"
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