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Post by swamp on Jun 3, 2020 9:14:13 GMT -5
I have a 2 year old lab/retriever mix. She's my baby.
On saturday morning, we let her out per usual. We live on the water, away from the road, and she is given latitude to roam around. She doesn't go very far, maybe 5 houses either way to visit other dogs. She goes in and out all day.
In the early afternoon, DH, DS and I had to leave, so we called the dog in, she was sleeping in the sun on the deck. She was hard to wake up and hyperreactive when she did wake up. We just thought she was sleeping deeply, because she came out of it quick. We left and left her home with DD.
We got home a few hours later, and she didn't greet us at the door. She was sleeping. DD said she slept all afternoon, but that's also common. Dog woke up, but couldn't get up, and had peed on the floor. She didn't respond to the usual "wanna go for a ride, wanna go for a walk" We called vet, we were sent an hour north to emergency on call site for that weekend.
She was evaluated and we were told they thought it was THC poisoning and referred her to a 24 hour emergency care center. They have 3 they refer to, Syracuse, Burlington and Ottawa. Ottawa is the closest, but the border is closed because of COVID. We had to go an hour back home and then 2 hours to Syracuse.
She was admitted for 2 days. We stayed in a hotel.
On her release, she still wasn't eating or drinking, so we had to give her water via syringe. She had some pills, so they got wrapped in deli ham and cheese and kind of force fed to her. Once she got the taste of the ham and cheese, she was willing to eat a few bites being hand fed. She was still weak and didn't want to walk around and will only go out if we were with her. (no, we weren't going to let her roam free, we're talking about put her out to pee while we stood in the doorway, we have to walk around the lawn with her)
Last night, she had a big improvement, she got out of her crate and ran into the living room and got on the couch to cuddle with me. She ate some ham and cheese and is now drinking on her own. we have to give her some deworming powder, so we put it on ice cream and she ate that no problem. We took her out in the yard and she ran around a little, ran into the trees.
She's still weak and doesn't want to leave our sides, but she's doing better.
So it appears that in her travels, someone either fed the dog some THC based product, or she found someone's stash. It is believed it was synthentic or edibles as she had a very severe case of poisoning. No, the THC is not at my place. Maybe 30 years ago I may have had some ditch weed laying around, but nothing that would have caused damage like this. I don't know if someone gave it to her, or she got into someones' stash, or someone dropped an edible, or what. But it's a tough conversation to have with neighbors we don't know other than to say hi.
the money related part? It cost us about $3,000. I'd do it again.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 3, 2020 9:21:20 GMT -5
Glad she is doing better.
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Post by dannylion on Jun 3, 2020 9:23:23 GMT -5
What an awful experience for your baby and you! Very relieved to see that she is improving and hope she recovers fully with no sequelae. The poor sweetie!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 9:36:06 GMT -5
I am so glad she is better.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 3, 2020 9:58:26 GMT -5
Happy she is doing better. Sorry this happened to her.
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Post by gs11rmb on Jun 3, 2020 10:02:33 GMT -5
Poor dog. I'm glad she's feeling better and that you were able to afford to treat her appropriately.
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Post by skubikky on Jun 3, 2020 10:05:44 GMT -5
Poor lovey....so glad she's doing better. Give her some kisses for us.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 3, 2020 10:36:13 GMT -5
I am so glad she's doing better. And so sorry that this happened to her. Poor sweetie dog.
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Post by souldoubt on Jun 3, 2020 10:38:36 GMT -5
I'm glad your dog is getting better. That said you give your dog the type of freedom that's more akin to an outdoor cat. Nothing wrong with that but when you do that there's things you can't control such as cars, people and other animals. Where I live there's signs locally in some neighborhoods telling people to keep their cats indoors and to be careful when walking smaller dogs because of coyotes. A friend of mine had a cat they tried to keep inside but he kept following the dog into the backyard, started going on the fence and ultimately out at night until one day he never came back. Meanwhile about a half a mile from that friend is a family member who has a cat that goes out every night and has never come home injured. When it comes to dealing with other animals, cars or humans some outdoor animals get along just fine while others aren't cut out for it. Unfortunately dealing with some people is the worst situation because some out there think it's funny or okay to harm animals.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jun 3, 2020 10:38:46 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear she is doing better. I hope she continues to recover.
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Post by cottontail on Jun 3, 2020 10:42:51 GMT -5
I'm so sorry that happened and so glad that she is doing better. She is lucky to have such good owners.
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Post by Bonny on Jun 3, 2020 10:49:30 GMT -5
swamp, same thing happened to one of MIL's dogs. Someone threw an edible in her yard on 4/20. I hope it was a kid who didn't know any better but it could have been an idiot who thought it might calm down her yapppy dogs. I'm glad your dog is feeling better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 10:55:12 GMT -5
Not to say your vet is full of shit, but unless they actually found THC in the dog, I'd assume they are.
Your dog is the third I have heard of recently with this type of diagnosis, yet no proof there was any cannabis product involved. And, edibles are so expensive, people don't just leave them laying around... It seems to be one of those "weed is the Devil's plant" attitudes and it seems to have hit vets for whatever reason.
I would be more inclined to suggest your dog bit a toxic toad or ate a toxic plant.
I have these small grape hyacinth in my yard. They are listed as non-toxic. But, my dog insisted on eating them when they were blooming and they would make him really lethargic and sick.
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Post by swamp on Jun 3, 2020 11:04:48 GMT -5
Not to say your vet is full of shit, but unless they actually found THC in the dog, I'd assume they are. Your dog is the third I have heard of recently with this type of diagnosis, yet no proof there was any cannabis product involved. And, edibles are so expensive, people don't just leave them laying around... It seems to be one of those "weed is the Devil's plant" attitudes and it seems to have hit vets for whatever reason. I would be more inclined to suggest your dog bit a toxic toad or ate a toxic plant. I have these small grape hyacinth in my yard. They are listed as non-toxic. But, my dog insisted on eating them when they were blooming and they would make him really lethargic and sick. They did a blood test for THC, twice. They also noted that she was so sick that they believed it was probably synthetic/concentrated edible, or medical grade. A little bit of weed wouldn't do what happened to her. They have seen an uptick in THC poisoning since the quarantine. ETA: I'm for legalizing weed. I'm not for giving it to pets. It's like chocolate. It's great for me, not so good for her.
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Post by swamp on Jun 3, 2020 11:05:20 GMT -5
swamp , same thing happened to one of MIL's dogs. Someone threw an edible in her yard on 4/20. I hope it was a kid who didn't know any better but it could have been an idiot who thought it might calm down her yapppy dogs. I'm glad your dog is feeling better. big or little dog? did the dog recover?
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Post by apple 2 on Jun 3, 2020 11:13:07 GMT -5
Not to say your vet is full of shit, but unless they actually found THC in the dog, I'd assume they are. Your dog is the third I have heard of recently with this type of diagnosis, yet no proof there was any cannabis product involved. And, edibles are so expensive, people don't just leave them laying around... It seems to be one of those "weed is the Devil's plant" attitudes and it seems to have hit vets for whatever reason. I would be more inclined to suggest your dog bit a toxic toad or ate a toxic plant. I have these small grape hyacinth in my yard. They are listed as non-toxic. But, my dog insisted on eating them when they were blooming and they would make him really lethargic and sick. Right. Who would throw that away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 11:25:58 GMT -5
Not to say your vet is full of shit, but unless they actually found THC in the dog, I'd assume they are. Your dog is the third I have heard of recently with this type of diagnosis, yet no proof there was any cannabis product involved. And, edibles are so expensive, people don't just leave them laying around... It seems to be one of those "weed is the Devil's plant" attitudes and it seems to have hit vets for whatever reason. I would be more inclined to suggest your dog bit a toxic toad or ate a toxic plant. I have these small grape hyacinth in my yard. They are listed as non-toxic. But, my dog insisted on eating them when they were blooming and they would make him really lethargic and sick. Right. Who would throw that away. Throw away maybe not, but there are certainly people out there that would get a kick out of "seeing what would happen" if they gave one to a dog.
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Post by swamp on Jun 3, 2020 11:29:35 GMT -5
There are also seasonal residences near me that have teens who visit who may have hid their stash for the next time they come up.
Or, they dropped one and it fell between the slats of the deck onto the ground and she ate it.
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Post by haapai on Jun 3, 2020 11:35:02 GMT -5
Not to say your vet is full of shit, but unless they actually found THC in the dog, I'd assume they are. Your dog is the third I have heard of recently with this type of diagnosis, yet no proof there was any cannabis product involved. And, edibles are so expensive, people don't just leave them laying around... It seems to be one of those "weed is the Devil's plant" attitudes and it seems to have hit vets for whatever reason. I would be more inclined to suggest your dog bit a toxic toad or ate a toxic plant. I have these small grape hyacinth in my yard. They are listed as non-toxic. But, my dog insisted on eating them when they were blooming and they would make him really lethargic and sick. Interesting. About five years ago, my dog experienced poisoning symptoms similar to Swamp's pupper. He was lethargic, than staggering, and then he could not walk. The vets asked pointed questions regarding prescription and recreational drugs. (There were no chewed-on prescription or over-the-counter drugs in the house, no rodent or ant baits, and no recreational drugs.)
I'd always assumed that the dog had eaten a roach or discarded med or rodent poison that he found on one of our walks. We never let him run free and we rarely tie him up outside due to his tendency to dig up whatever garden he can reach. He's gotten into the grape hyacinths at least once. I wish that I could remember when that was.
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Post by mollyc on Jun 3, 2020 11:35:56 GMT -5
I have had passive/aggressive neighbours who have talked about feeding wandering cats and dogs something to make them sick with the intent of getting their owners to keep their animals home. Don’t know if they did it though.
DH stopped making himself peanut butter cookies because the younger dogs have bad manners. No one seems interested in raisin oatmeal thankfully.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 3, 2020 11:37:38 GMT -5
Poor pup. I hope karma catches up with the person who did it ☝️that. good to hear she is getting better.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jun 3, 2020 11:38:11 GMT -5
Wow, I'm sorry, Swamp. I do hope it was accidental -- like you said, someone dropped one/some and couldn't reach them (or was too stoned to bother). Thank you for being so attuned to her behaviors and for recognizing something was wrong so quickly. Give her extra love from us for the next few days.
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Post by swamp on Jun 3, 2020 11:43:34 GMT -5
We also got the questions about recreational drugs and poisons. We use traps for mice, not poisons, and the cat keeps the house pretty vermin free. There are no drugs she could have gotten into unless he has figured out how to open the medicine cabinet and open pill bottles. I have teens and if we weren't in quarantine, I might suspect them, but they haven't gone anywhere.
They tested for antifreeze and other common poisons, but those came back negative. She also has full kidney and liver function.
I am for legalizing marijuana, but I don't use. It's been years.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 3, 2020 12:32:27 GMT -5
I've seen joint butts on the ground in Colorado before. People are just as bad with those as they are cigarettes. It's possible someone dropped one and the dog scooped it up. Joints have different strengths depending on the strain in it.
Things like chocolate and raisins are also bad for dogs but not bad for me. The THC level may be fine for a human but toxic for a pet.
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Post by haapai on Jun 3, 2020 12:45:10 GMT -5
That's re-emerging as a more likely cause of my dog's poisoning. According to the ASPCA, grape hyacinths aka Muscari are not toxic to dogs, but common hyacinths are. I don't have any hyacinths. They cost money and tend to last only a few years. Grape hyacinths, however, are cheap, prolific, and hardy.
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Post by Happy prose on Jun 3, 2020 12:55:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry this happened. It makes me sick to think it was done purposely. I don't know much about thc- is it used in other products, like fertilizers or something?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jun 3, 2020 13:40:23 GMT -5
jerk is too kind for this asshole.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jun 3, 2020 13:48:50 GMT -5
There are what are called toxidromes, a constellation of signs and symptoms that Occur together with ingestion. Get enough of those together, and it is highly likely that is what the diagnosis is. In addition, different species respond differently to substances. For example, chocolate is toxic to dogs, can cause kidney failure. So, it is highly likely a vet, who is an expert and examined the dog is more likely correct as compared to internet experts.
And the fallacy that marijuana is harmless is just that, a fallacy. Every substance ingested, even water and oxygen can have toxic effects if given in high enough doses.
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Post by crazycat on Jun 3, 2020 14:30:30 GMT -5
So sorry for your pup . Glad she is feeling better . 😊
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