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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Jun 1, 2020 6:51:06 GMT -5
I hear the killer is on suicide watch. Do they do that for all accused murderers, or is he showing signs that he knows he fucked up and he knows how fucked he is? I pray that if he is, in fact, suicidal that they keep him safe so that he can’t take the easy way out. He must be made the example of how not to police.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 1, 2020 7:52:12 GMT -5
I’m not in a great place currently... but seems to me lots of macho racist assholes become sniveling babies when their entitlement is taken away and they have to live under a system / conditions to which they would have subjected others ... I feel worse now than I did on 9-11, I think.
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Post by swamp on Jun 1, 2020 8:05:55 GMT -5
I’m not in a great place currently... but seems to me lots of macho racist assholes become sniveling babies when their entitlement is taken away and they have to live under a system / conditions to which they would have subjected others ... I feel worse now than I did on 9-11, I think. I know I do
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Post by gs11rmb on Jun 1, 2020 9:52:42 GMT -5
I feel worse now than I did on 9-11, I think. I know I do In some ways 9-11 is easier to explain. I want to protect my children from the ugliness of life but in this instance that's the wrong thing to do. My 7 year old still likes to cuddle at night and I was lying snuggled up with her a couple of nights ago trying not to cry because I was thinking about all the women I know with 7 year old brown and black boys and how terrified they have to be for their futures.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 9:53:04 GMT -5
I'm a little worried what's going to happen now that the autopsy is saying he didn't die of asphyxiation. Pretty sure they can't charge him with murder if he didn't directly cause his death and I don't think the crowds will be satisfied with manslaughter.
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 1, 2020 10:00:24 GMT -5
I'm a little worried what's going to happen now that the autopsy is saying he didn't die of asphyxiation. Pretty sure they can't charge him with murder if he didn't directly cause his death and I don't think the crowds will be satisfied with manslaughter. Shit. Hopefully the family will get a second autopsy. The people rioting won't trust the government autopsy.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 1, 2020 10:44:33 GMT -5
I'm a little worried what's going to happen now that the autopsy is saying he didn't die of asphyxiation. Pretty sure they can't charge him with murder if he didn't directly cause his death and I don't think the crowds will be satisfied with manslaughter. Shit. Hopefully the family will get a second autopsy. The people rioting won't trust the government autopsy. The family has asked for an independent autopsy.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 1, 2020 11:22:08 GMT -5
Shit. Hopefully the family will get a second autopsy. The people rioting won't trust the government autopsy. The family has asked for an independent autopsy. Good.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 1, 2020 12:28:08 GMT -5
I'm a little worried what's going to happen now that the autopsy is saying he didn't die of asphyxiation. Pretty sure they can't charge him with murder if he didn't directly cause his death and I don't think the crowds will be satisfied with manslaughter. Shit. Hopefully the family will get a second autopsy. The people rioting won't trust the government autopsy. Independent autopsy results to be released this afternoon. Lawyer Representing George Floyd’s Family To Release Results Of Independent AutopsyMINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The attorney representing George Floyd’s family says the findings of an independent autopsy will be announced Monday afternoon. According to a statement, attorney Ben Crump is scheduled to hold a press conference in Minneapolis on the autopsy findings at 2 p.m. Lawyer Representing George Floyd’s Family To Release Results Of Independent Autopsy
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 1, 2020 12:37:40 GMT -5
I feel worse now than I did on 9-11, I think. I know I do So do I. This is a level of ugliness I can't wrap my mind around. Or more precisely I don't want to wrap my mind around this! And I am not sure I can ever forgive the reactions of the strumpettes to this situation
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 1, 2020 13:58:13 GMT -5
Shit. Hopefully the family will get a second autopsy. The people rioting won't trust the government autopsy. Independent autopsy results to be released this afternoon. Lawyer Representing George Floyd’s Family To Release Results Of Independent AutopsyMINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The attorney representing George Floyd’s family says the findings of an independent autopsy will be announced Monday afternoon. According to a statement, attorney Ben Crump is scheduled to hold a press conference in Minneapolis on the autopsy findings at 2 p.m. Lawyer Representing George Floyd’s Family To Release Results Of Independent AutopsyIf these findings contradict what the state said, then I would hate to be in Minneapolis about now. I cannot see that going well. As they are holding a press conference, I'm guessing they will. Otherwise, they'd just put out a news blip that the second autopsy confirmed what was found in the first.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 1, 2020 13:58:38 GMT -5
I feel worse now than I did on 9-11, I think. I know I do Of course! 9-11 was perpetuated by outside forces who hate America. This is Americans hating other Americans. "A house divided against itself, cannot stand" -Lincoln
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 1, 2020 15:36:39 GMT -5
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 2, 2020 6:57:54 GMT -5
My spouse came to me last night to tell me that George Floyd had been dead for the last 3 minutes the cop had his knee on him. Um, yeah, where have you been hiding dear?
This morning it was 'they're targeting cops and we need the militias. Yes dear, because that it going to make this all better. And yes, he used the word militias.
I just can't with him right now.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 2, 2020 7:18:37 GMT -5
So disappointed in Omaha today. A white bar owner shot a 22 year old black protester on Saturday night. They let the bar owner go because "he was afraid for his life" and therefore it was "self defense".
Maybe it was I don't know what was in that guy's head but he should have been tried. He should have had to justify his stance in the court of law.
Because you know if it had been a black bar owner and a white protester the bar owner would still be in jail. People would be saying there is no excuse for violence and he's probably a thug looking to shoot someone. He would have been on trial tomorrow.
And that's the problem.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 2, 2020 16:40:34 GMT -5
Where justice failed capitalism stepped up.
While I'm sure it wasn't altruistic the property owner has refused to renew the lease for the shooter's bars. They will not be allowed to open.
Given the target on his back I doubt anyone will rent to him.
I'll take what I can get. Also thanks to social media witnesses are coming forward and cell phone videos are being shared.
So the DA can talk all he wants about his good guy with a gun theory but the truth will not remain hidden this time.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 2, 2020 16:49:20 GMT -5
Where justice failed capitalism stepped up.While I'm sure it wasn't altruistic the property owner has refused to renew the lease for the shooter's bars. They will not be allowed to open. Given the target on his back I doubt anyone will rent to him. I'll take what I can get. Also thanks to social media witnesses are coming forward and cell phone videos are being shared. So the DA can talk all he wants about his good guy with a gun theory but the truth will not remain hidden this time. This seems to be happening more than a few times. Most recently was the dog walker in Central Park who got fired for calling the cops on a black man who asked her to leash her dog, claiming he was going to hurt her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 8:23:29 GMT -5
I joked about how they were going to try to make this look like a Covid death, but damned if he didn't test positive!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 4, 2020 10:27:22 GMT -5
I joked about how they were going to try to make this look like a Covid death, but damned if he didn't test positive! I don’t get how testing positive over 2 months ago and being mildly symptomatic is relevant.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jun 4, 2020 10:28:53 GMT -5
I found out yesterday that 2 of my nieces were on that bridge in Minneapolis that that semi barreled through. Both have been out protesting since this happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 10:32:38 GMT -5
I joked about how they were going to try to make this look like a Covid death, but damned if he didn't test positive! I don’t get how testing positive over 2 months ago and being mildly symptomatic is relevant. Um...it's not?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 18:03:25 GMT -5
Wow. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police department and switch to community led patrol. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 18:23:48 GMT -5
Wow. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police department and switch to community led patrol. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that yet. Same here. I am cursed with the ability to see both sides of stuff. And this stuff has a lot to see on both sides. My community is predominantly white/Hispanic/Asian and, IMHO, they would not stand up for those of us on the left-wing/liberal/socialist/brown-but-not-black side of things. Too many folks around me embracing Zimmerman, vigilantes, open carry, for me to feel comfy with community-led enforcement. The local Hispanic population is too concerned about their legal status to come out of the shadows, the Asian community looks after their own and the whites are either quiet or racist.
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Post by obelisk on Jun 7, 2020 18:29:47 GMT -5
Wow. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police department and switch to community led patrol. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that yet. In a Community led patrol without police leads in private armed compounds that is encircled by high walls topped with wire. Are we ready for this!
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Post by Opti on Jun 7, 2020 19:35:45 GMT -5
Wow. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police department and switch to community led patrol. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that yet. I'd be concerned. The police don't just do patrol and traffic violations. Who are you going to report thefts, domestic violence, etc. to? Who will investigate burglaries and murders?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 19:52:28 GMT -5
Wow. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police department and switch to community led patrol. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that yet. I'd be concerned. The police don't just do patrol and traffic violations. Who are you going to report thefts, domestic violence, etc. to? Who will investigate burglaries and murders? I don't know how it would all work. From what I hear it won't be right away and it won't be the complete removal without replacement with something else...like a special unit for murders or sexual assaults. MPD is not a very effective police force in those areas as it is. www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2020/06/08/minneapolis-will-disband-the-citys-police-department-after-george-floyd-killing/
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Post by Opti on Jun 7, 2020 20:24:11 GMT -5
Apparently a couple of other towns have done this including Camden.
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 7, 2020 20:52:41 GMT -5
So serious reform is very needed, but dismantle?? I’d be really worried. What bothers me is all the big cities, NYC Chicago LA etc have liberal government for a looong time and why haven’t the police departments been reformed? I don’t buy the police unions are so strong nothing can be done?? Sorry the city mayors aren’t doing their jobs and just can’t throw up their hands and say can’t be controlled Will people in these cities just keep voting for the same type of leaders? If so why?? De Blasio is an example. He could have insisted the police put more cops on street and used the mounted police to avoid, not just stop, looters Only 8,000 cops were on duty when looting occurred in a force of 36,000 . I have every sympathy with the peaceful demonstrations and happy looters (a completely different group of people) have been stopped Wondering why Hollywood types are contributing to bail for looters but not contributing to store owners who’ve been devastated By the way in NYC looters were released without bail - a new this year liberal policy So basically I understand agree and sympathize with peaceful demonstrators but not understanding why the liberal government allows these terrible problems to continue and liberal government in cities are not being held accountable for the police departments under their control including budgetary control
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Post by laterbloomer on Jun 7, 2020 21:16:14 GMT -5
So serious reform is very needed, but dismantle?? I’d be really worried. What bothers me is all the big cities, NYC Chicago LA etc have liberal government for a looong time and why haven’t the police departments been reformed? I don’t buy the police unions are so strong nothing can be done?? Sorry the city mayors aren’t doing their jobs and just can’t throw up their hands and say can’t be controlled Will people in these cities just keep voting for the same type of leaders? If so why?? De Blasio is an example. He could have insisted the police put more cops on street and used the mounted police to avoid, not just stop, looters Only 8,000 cops were on duty when looting occurred in a force of 36,000 . I have every sympathy with the peaceful demonstrations and happy looters (a completely different group of people) have been stopped Wondering why Hollywood types are contributing to bail for looters but not contributing to store owners who’ve been devastated By the way in NYC looters were released without bail - a new this year liberal policy So basically I understand agree and sympathize with peaceful demonstrators but not understanding why the liberal government allows these terrible problems to continue and liberal government in cities are not being held accountable for the police departments under their control including budgetary control The BLM movement predates your current administration. The movement does not hold liberal governments blameless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 21:23:43 GMT -5
So serious reform is very needed, but dismantle?? I’d be really worried. What bothers me is all the big cities, NYC Chicago LA etc have liberal government for a looong time and why haven’t the police departments been reformed? I don’t buy the police unions are so strong nothing can be done?? Sorry the city mayors aren’t doing their jobs and just can’t throw up their hands and say can’t be controlled Will people in these cities just keep voting for the same type of leaders? If so why?? De Blasio is an example. He could have insisted the police put more cops on street and used the mounted police to avoid, not just stop, looters Only 8,000 cops were on duty when looting occurred in a force of 36,000 . I have every sympathy with the peaceful demonstrations and happy looters (a completely different group of people) have been stopped
Wondering why Hollywood types are contributing to bail for looters but not contributing to store owners who’ve been devastated By the way in NYC looters were released without bail - a new this year liberal policy So basically I understand agree and sympathize with peaceful demonstrators but not understanding why the liberal government allows these terrible problems to continue and liberal government in cities are not being held accountable for the police departments under their control including budgetary control 36,000? Wow. Minneapolis PD is just 800.
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