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Post by wvugurl26 on May 24, 2020 13:44:24 GMT -5
The one restaurant is selling groceries they ordered from their distributor. There doesn't appear to be much of a markup on the prices. I do agree that it is curious to state cash preferred when many other places are requesting card payment to avoid handling cash.
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Post by movingforward on May 24, 2020 13:51:11 GMT -5
I'm on the phone with my 73 year old dad and is he talking about looking at cruises for the fall because they will have good deals. Seriously, dad...WTH?
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Post by haapai on May 24, 2020 13:58:50 GMT -5
There are all sorts of games that they could be playing. The most innocuous of which is attempting to stay current with their suppliers by buying in bulk and reselling at pretty much cost. That will keep them current or at least not 90 days late with their suppliers.
But there are many other, much sleazier, things that they could be up to, especially if they already know that they are bust.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 24, 2020 14:36:42 GMT -5
I'm on the phone with my 73 year old dad and is he talking about looking at cruises for the fall because they will have good deals. Seriously, dad...WTH? I'm contemplating going to Vegas when things open back up and settle down a bit. I hope they will have lots of good deals. I expect to start getting email from casino/hotels shortly. And I'm older than you dad. Of course my son would be saying the same thing. Not sure I would be thinking cruise though Something about not having control if things go wonky again. I'd rather get stuck in Vegas than on a ship.
ETA: I really won't be discussing it with son. I'll just announce that I will be leaving such and such a date and returning on such and such a date. Cuts down on all the discussion about it!! But he's used to that from me.
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Post by resolution on May 24, 2020 14:47:20 GMT -5
I'm going to have to obtain a smart phone. learn how to use it, and pay more for basic communication services as a result. Sadly, the odds are good that this phone will contain a tracking app that may not get disabled after COVID-19 is no longer a threat.
Since everyone else is volunteering their plans, I have been happy with Mint Mobile. www.mintmobile.com/ I buy a year at a time, and it costs $15 per month. Unlimited talk, text, and data, although the data is supposed to slow down if you exceed a set limit that I have never exceeded. So if you aren't too attached to the land line, you can let it go and actually lower your communication costs. You can buy a phone from Mint Mobile, but I would recommend buying an unlocked phone on Amazonor somewhere else, and then just signing up with that phone.
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Post by movingforward on May 24, 2020 14:56:42 GMT -5
I'm on the phone with my 73 year old dad and is he talking about looking at cruises for the fall because they will have good deals. Seriously, dad...WTH? I'm contemplating going to Vegas when things open back up and settle down a bit. I hope they will have lots of good deals. I expect to start getting email from casino/hotels shortly. And I'm older than you dad. Of course my son would be saying the same thing. Not sure I would be thinking cruise though Something about not having control if things go wonky again. I'd rather get stuck in Vegas than on a ship.
ETA: I really won't be discussing it with son. I'll just announce that I will be leaving such and such a date and returning on such and such a date. Cuts down on all the discussion about it!! But he's used to that from me.
I told him I wouldn't go on a cruise because he might get stuck. He lives in Vegas and he will start going to the local casinos as soon as they open, but he will wear a mask, use hand sanitizer, etc. He wants me to come out this summer. I told him maybe. I just know that if I picked up covid on the plane and got him sick that I would not be able to live with myself.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 24, 2020 15:43:37 GMT -5
We had almost completely gotten away from amazon but then at the beginning of this we were back in full force... trying to rebalance that now! I've managed to avoid them- I use them only for things I can't find near me. I understand that people who are at higher risk are self-isolating more than I am, but I've managed to minimize grocery store trips with more careful planning and don't buy much anywhere else other than home improvement stuff, as I mentioned earlier. I have a generalized version of teen persuasion's concern about the Roman Catholic churches in her diocese disappearing. I'm Episcopalian and I'm wondering how many people will come back to church (or other places of worship). My community has had weekly virtual Happy Hours Friday evenings and Morning Prayer Sunday mornings, but many of our members are older and may not want to be in the pews even after the building is opened. The few young families we have haven't been on-line in the Zoom gatherings. OTOH, when watching services at the National Cathedral I saw many comments from people who usually don't go to church, or who didn't know what the Episcopal Church was about, saying maybe they ought to go back to church. We'll see if they do, but it's all gonna be different. I think it will be a long time before we have Coffee Hour again and I really enjoyed baking for that. Our church has been slowly dying for a while. There's almost no families with children anymore. Most of my kids have been altar servers, DS5 is the last one left at home, and has been serving since he made his First Communion in 3rd grade. We used to use 4 servers at a time, and the kids were scheduled maybe once a month. Now he's often the only one available, there are no younger kids. Before everything shut down, if we heard baby/toddler voices in church, we all looked around to see who/where they were (almost invariably visiting grandchildren). So DH and I are some of the youngest couples in church, in our fifties. The older couples keep dwindling, as they become snowbirds, have health issues, move to be near grandchildren, or pass away. After months not attending, I bet even more will fall away, the habit broken, or from valid health fears.
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Post by resolution on May 24, 2020 16:46:49 GMT -5
In addition to the aging of the church-going population, the epidemic may have a big impact on the number of priests. The average age of priests is quite high and there is no safe way for them to distribute the Eucharist, so they are going to be placing themselves (as well as the aging congregation) at a lot of risk. My archdiocese has been consolidating for years, and it is not a lack of funds but the lack of available priests to keep the parishes open.
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Post by Malarky on May 24, 2020 17:56:09 GMT -5
In order to continue providing online ordering and curbside service once the world resumes, be prepared for prices to rise. Perhaps not so much for businesses that already did that, but for those who only transitioned to it recently.
The bakery I work for traditionally does a booming business in the morning. Customer comes in, orders food that retail staff bags or boxes, orders coffee-they get an empty cup and fix it however they want with 7 choices of coffee, 4 choices of milk and 5 sugar options. Boom-done. Two minute transaction usually including paying the bill. Espresso bar orders take a bit longer, but that customer is standing to the side and the retail staff has moved on to the next person.
Online or phone order has to be printed or written out. Given to the retail staff who then fill the food order, then the coffee which takes way longer than handing over a cup and double check that coffee, milk and sugar options are correct. That order either goes on the pick up table, the order shelf or has to be delivered curbside. A much longer than two minute transaction.
Then there's the packaging. People used to order 12 cupcakes for the office and get them in one box. Now they want 12 individually packaged cupcakes to hand out to their neighbors. That packaging is more expensive and takes a lot more time. Nearly everyone is asking for everything to be individually packaged. And then those individual packages have to be packaged for easy transport As of last Friday we used what would normally last us 6 months of cupcake boxes in two weeks. And we're only open 7 hours instead of 12.
It's the same with every item we sell. It takes longer to process and package everything which translates to higher payroll and overhead costs. That doesn't even take into consideration that the cost of ingredients is rising.
We're absorbing it for now as are most of the businesses that I'm familiar with, but it isn't sustainable in the long run.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 24, 2020 18:09:17 GMT -5
If it has not been mention yet, I won't miss laminated (or how ever they are covered to protect them) reusable restaurant menus. Some restaurant menus are even skeevier than public bathrooms as they look and feel as if they have not been cleaned in weeks/months.
It may add a little to the restaurant's overhead, disposable, one use only, paper menus are the way to go.
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Post by billisonboard on May 24, 2020 18:09:52 GMT -5
Our facility served meals either family or buffet style. That can't continue and we will have to take a serious look at pricing for individual meal menus.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 18:21:47 GMT -5
In addition to the aging of the church-going population, the epidemic may have a big impact on the number of priests. The average age of priests is quite high and there is no safe way for them to distribute the Eucharist, so they are going to be placing themselves (as well as the aging congregation) at a lot of risk. My archdiocese has been consolidating for years, and it is not a lack of funds but the lack of available priests to keep the parishes open. We have special wooden tongs used to retrieve a piece of communion bread that someone accidentally dropped into the cup of wine; our priest plans to use those tongs to place the bread in each person's open hands. No common wine cup at all.
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 24, 2020 18:37:55 GMT -5
I was sent paperwork from DD's day center. I have to sign off basically if she gets sick and dies they are not responsible. They have to do distancing, wear a mask all day and many instructions. Social distancing, etc. Can't go in unless they wash their hands and on and on. I signed it all, and wrote that DD will not be back until new cases go down and deaths reduce. Indiana is in that group where its rampant, one of the high could states now with over 32,000 cases and over 1,800 deaths. There are 32 in our county now, goes up about 1 a day. I cannot see those ladies being able to manage that. Washing tables, door knobs, only them using the vending machines and on and on. I feel for them. They are dealing with mentally challenged adults.
And I'm guessing only the sickest ones or those whose parents have to work go back. If the client doesn't adhere to their rules they will be sent home or not allowed to enter, just wow.
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Post by sesfw on May 24, 2020 18:46:12 GMT -5
After months not attending, I bet even more will fall away, the habit broken, or from valid health fears.
I think a lot of churches will see this. Our church is doing on-line services and when it first started there were 89 people logged in with us. Today just 16. Maybe the others will log in later to see the archived series.
The traditional 40 days to break a habit.
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Post by stillmovingforward on May 24, 2020 19:01:29 GMT -5
One of our favorite restaurants puts the menu on a big chalkboard. Everyone learns to look at it or takes a picture with thier phone and walks back to thier take. I love that method.
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Post by raeoflyte on May 24, 2020 20:54:42 GMT -5
If it has not been mention yet, I won't miss laminated (or how ever they are covered to protect them) reusable restaurant menus. Some restaurant menus are even skeevier than public bathrooms as they look and feel as if they have not been cleaned in weeks/months. It may add a little to the restaurant's overhead, disposable, one use only, paper menus are the way to go. I really hope not. I hate the idea of more waste. Wash more, not waste more. Look at the menu online on your phone instead of using a menu once to throw out. And before someone says it, recycling isn't working and is not the answer to the world's waste problem. Reducing is.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 24, 2020 20:58:29 GMT -5
If it has not been mention yet, I won't miss laminated (or how ever they are covered to protect them) reusable restaurant menus. Some restaurant menus are even skeevier than public bathrooms as they look and feel as if they have not been cleaned in weeks/months. It may add a little to the restaurant's overhead, disposable, one use only, paper menus are the way to go. I really hope not. I hate the idea of more waste. Wash more, not waste more. Look at the menu online on your phone instead of using a menu once to throw out. And before someone says it, recycling isn't working and is not the answer to the world's waste problem. Reducing is. Before virus, the menus were filthy. Keeping the same type of menu after the virus and they will still be dirty.
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Post by raeoflyte on May 24, 2020 21:19:40 GMT -5
I really hope not. I hate the idea of more waste. Wash more, not waste more. Look at the menu online on your phone instead of using a menu once to throw out. And before someone says it, recycling isn't working and is not the answer to the world's waste problem. Reducing is. Before virus, the menus were filthy. Keeping the same type of menu after the virus and they will still be dirty. Or they should be washed more often? Menus are one thing and if that was it, fine. But it's not. How much data is going into some of these changes and how much of it is because it makes us feel like we did something? Will any restaurant let you bring your cup again? Or stores opening up the bulk bins and allowing reusable bags. Going to single use everything was already here, and now it can be marketed as safer when I don't think it actually is in many cases. Sorry Tenn, I just hope it doesn't happen.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 24, 2020 21:29:32 GMT -5
Before virus, the menus were filthy. Keeping the same type of menu after the virus and they will still be dirty. Or they should be washed more often? Menus are one thing and if that was it, fine. But it's not. How much data is going into some of these changes and how much of it is because it makes us feel like we did something? Will any restaurant let you bring your cup again? Or stores opening up the bulk bins and allowing reusable bags. Going to single use everything was already here, and now it can be marketed as safer when I don't think it actually is in many cases. Sorry Tenn, I just hope it doesn't happen. The bulk bins in Publix where I shop were still in use. But bulk bins in Fresh Market were closed. Everything prepackaged at FM. I guess it depends on individual company policy.
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 25, 2020 9:03:01 GMT -5
Our Kroger chain had switched much of the deli area to self serve about a year ago. Now everything is prepackaged. No olive or salad bar. I can't see them opening either of these anytime soon, and I will miss the salad bar.
My daughter and i were talking about buffets and restaurants. I have loved the all inclusive while we have traveled to the Caribbean. They will have to make huge changes and serve the guest as opposed to guest helping themselves
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Post by Blonde Granny on May 25, 2020 9:13:48 GMT -5
I haven't been to TFM in a month or so, but did notice the self serve olive bar was clamped down and empty. There are 4 guys I work with at the VA, all are widowers and got together on Friday night for dinner at The Golden Corral, I doubt it will reopen along with a lot of others.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 25, 2020 9:33:00 GMT -5
Our Kroger chain had switched much of the deli area to self serve about a year ago. Now everything is prepackaged. No olive or salad bar. I can't see them opening either of these anytime soon, and I will miss the salad bar. My daughter and i were talking about buffets and restaurants. I have loved the all inclusive while we have traveled to the Caribbean. They will have to make huge changes and serve the guest as opposed to guest helping themselves I enjoyed Kroger's olive bar. Kroger closed the olive bar I frequented about 18 months ago.
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 25, 2020 9:45:45 GMT -5
Our Kroger chain had switched much of the deli area to self serve about a year ago. Now everything is prepackaged. No olive or salad bar. I can't see them opening either of these anytime soon, and I will miss the salad bar. My daughter and i were talking about buffets and restaurants. I have loved the all inclusive while we have traveled to the Caribbean. They will have to make huge changes and serve the guest as opposed to guest helping themselves I enjoyed Kroger's olive bar. Kroger closed the olive bar I frequented about 18 months ago. I loved the olives w feta cheese and the tapenade. I think they have prepacked containers, but I usually do pick up, and it's hard to order items like that.
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Post by movingforward on May 25, 2020 11:14:39 GMT -5
After months not attending, I bet even more will fall away, the habit broken, or from valid health fears.I think a lot of churches will see this. Our church is doing on-line services and when it first started there were 89 people logged in with us. Today just 16. Maybe the others will log in later to see the archived series. The traditional 40 days to break a habit. Sad Part of it could also be that people are just burned out on virtual stuff. I was active in toastmasters but have stopped since it is now virtual. My company has been doing webinars, I'm having zoom meetings, etc and I just can't stand anymore virtual meetings. I'll go back to toastmasters when it is live and in-person again. I'm not a church goer myself, but just a thought...
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 25, 2020 11:26:07 GMT -5
My MIL is scared to go back to church next weekend. I tried to tell her it was fine to stay home and do TV church. Indoor stuff is risky. But my sister in law of course did nothing to encourage her to stay home. They are 70+, they should stay home.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 25, 2020 11:39:23 GMT -5
My church has always had light attendence during the summer holiday weekends. I normally skip the Sunday before memorial day as well, because I go to mass at the cemetery on memorial day. Unfortunately, they didn't do that this year. It would have been perfect: outdoors, easy social distancing, and perfect weather.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 25, 2020 11:42:07 GMT -5
Our Kroger chain had switched much of the deli area to self serve about a year ago. Now everything is prepackaged. No olive or salad bar. I can't see them opening either of these anytime soon, and I will miss the salad bar. My daughter and i were talking about buffets and restaurants. I have loved the all inclusive while we have traveled to the Caribbean. They will have to make huge changes and serve the guest as opposed to guest helping themselves I enjoyed Kroger's olive bar. Kroger closed the olive bar I frequented about 18 months ago. Yep, Fred Meyers closed their olive bar too. FM is a Kroger’s chain in the west. They also closed their condiment bar, so you can’t get fresh salsa, garlic sauce, tzatziki, hummus, etc. any more. The soup bar has closed, and I noticed the last trip that they are now using the salad bar area to stack specialty crackers.
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Post by jelloshots4all on May 25, 2020 15:18:51 GMT -5
I enjoyed Kroger's olive bar. Kroger closed the olive bar I frequented about 18 months ago. Yep, Fred Meyers closed their olive bar too. FM is a Kroger’s chain in the west. They also closed their condiment bar, so you can’t get fresh salsa, garlic sauce, tzatziki, hummus, etc. any more. The soup bar has closed, and I noticed the last trip that they are now using the salad bar area to stack specialty crackers. I used the salad bar to cheat on several recipes. I make a seafood cajun pasta, and used the salad bar for sliced peppers, onions, mushrooms, etc. Also the salsa and guac.
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Post by daisylu on May 27, 2020 7:28:49 GMT -5
If it has not been mention yet, I won't miss laminated (or how ever they are covered to protect them) reusable restaurant menus. Some restaurant menus are even skeevier than public bathrooms as they look and feel as if they have not been cleaned in weeks/months. It may add a little to the restaurant's overhead, disposable, one use only, paper menus are the way to go. I really hope not. I hate the idea of more waste. Wash more, not waste more. Look at the menu online on your phone instead of using a menu once to throw out. And before someone says it, recycling isn't working and is not the answer to the world's waste problem. Reducing is. I have been wondering when trash is going to become an issue. With all the takeout orders and gas stations no longer allowing refillable cups for coffee, etc.
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