teen persuasion
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Post by teen persuasion on May 26, 2020 15:39:10 GMT -5
It means they think their wife should stay home and home school their kids, so they do not have to worry about them getting sick. You don't think they would be the ones staying home, do you? Obviously, for the part I bolded. But that part about lower income were more interested than higher income, and racial minorities more interested than whites, that's the headscratcher. Of course, in our household DH is the teacher. If schools stay closed he'd be home to deal with DS5's education, while I'll likely have to return to working in person eventually. Then again, I'm suited to cover more subject areas than DH.
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Post by oped on May 26, 2020 16:28:55 GMT -5
Lower incomes lose less. Minorities are dying at a much higher rate of Coronavirus.
I think Lower income families are also more likely to live in multigenerational households.
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 26, 2020 17:26:38 GMT -5
Yeah... I try not to be critical of other people's family choices (even if I privately roll my eyes) but I'm still taken aback by the knowledge that some people on this board obviously think I have made bad choices for my children. For the record: - I make 6 figures
- I do not want to be a SAHM
- My DH does not want to be a SAHD
- I sent my children to a formal Child Development Center with very low turnover and staffed by nurturing and college educated people
- At home daycares make ME uncomfortable
- I have no desire to homeschool
- I am sick and tired of the sanctimonious attitude of people who think that because they stayed at home they have some how 'sacrificed' for their children and therefore love them more than working parents.
- It's only a sacrifice if you do something you really really really don't want to do but choose to because it is for the betterment of others. Staying at home is simply a choice with financial ramifications - that does not equate to a sacrifice.
I’m not a stay at home mom either, but I’m very grateful for all the free labor that the stay at home moms put in to the schools that my children attend. I’m also grateful that women who may not have been able to handle juggling career and children chose to do one thing well, so I don’t have to send my children to school with a bunch of feral children. Any choice you make is going to be a sacrifice, because you’re not going to get everything you want. If you work, you lose out on time with your children. If you don’t work, you lose out on income and future earning potential. The thing to remember here is that what works for you could be a complete disaster for someone else, and the person who comes off as sounding superior is probably a bit jealous of what you’ve got.
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Post by thyme4change on May 26, 2020 19:52:53 GMT -5
It means they think their wife should stay home and home school their kids, so they do not have to worry about them getting sick. You don't think they would be the ones staying home, do you? If Dad was laid off or furloughed, maybe he should show his amazing skills by homeschooling. My husband would be pretty good at it. The rest of the house would be a f**king mess - but the kids would learn history, geography, literature and math.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 26, 2020 20:08:12 GMT -5
It means they think their wife should stay home and home school their kids, so they do not have to worry about them getting sick. You don't think they would be the ones staying home, do you? If Dad was laid off or furloughed, maybe he should show his amazing skills by homeschooling. My husband would be pretty good at it. The rest of the house would be a f**king mess - but the kids would learn history, geography, literature and math. It should make sense by what the household needs. Doubt many of them would be willing to do that t however
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 20:10:52 GMT -5
I posted before that they are predicting a teacher shortage in Alabama. 1 in 5 of teachers is over 50 and eligible to retire. Insurance is the problem for many.
Colleagues who are retiring are posted on FB almost every day. But I taught at a large high school with 200+ faculty members.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 27, 2020 14:31:50 GMT -5
I think the decision regarding these things should be made at an individual level based on talent, temperament, and earning potential. I live in a blue part of the country, and it is still a situation where a male who is a SAHP is look on in skeptical fashion, and their worth as a man/partner is suspect. Shouldn't be, but the idea that an able body man is being "supported" by their wives make the less than. And even in liberal areas, many women will not marry "down" and feel that they need to protect their money. Not that it isn't wrong, but we are not as enlightened as we think. ANd a a man. I do not believe the majority of the men in that survey will volunteer to be the one staying home. I may be wrong. I am obviously not a liberal but I am would never allow a man to be dependent on me. When I married the first time I never thought I would be the wrong side of the 50% that gets divorced. I would never take that financial risk of making someone dependent on me. In the event of a divorce, the person who does the supporting is at a severe disadvantage. It actually blows my mind that anyone is willing to support another person. That is a huge leap of faith and not one I'm willing to take.
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Post by bobosensei on May 29, 2020 7:41:18 GMT -5
Alabama's state superintendent of education announced that virtual school would be available for any student whose parents feel uncomfortable about sending them back in the fall. How much extra work is that for the teacher to have some kids in class and others remote? Or do you think the classes would regroup so that some teachers (maybe the older ones more at risk) do remote and the others do in person? Or what do they do if the school was like mine where there was just one advanced class of something per grade? Are parents choice going to mean some of the advanced kids end up in a regular class?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 8:41:32 GMT -5
Alabama's state superintendent of education announced that virtual school would be available for any student whose parents feel uncomfortable about sending them back in the fall. How much extra work is that for the teacher to have some kids in class and others remote? Or do you think the classes would regroup so that some teachers (maybe the older ones more at risk) do remote and the others do in person? Or what do they do if the school was like mine where there was just one advanced class of something per grade? Are parents choice going to mean some of the advanced kids end up in a regular class? You are asking me to guess. The state doesn't have the answers. They just want parents to know they will have this option and for school districts to begin preparing now.However, I can answer the question of advanced kids ending up in a regular class. Yes, that will happen. It happens now. Schedules just don't work out for one reason or another, and the student has to make a choice. However, special education students will still have to receive services. That one will be tricky if parents opt for virtual classes.
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Post by oped on May 29, 2020 9:15:53 GMT -5
Most districts around me have virtual options already. Those are taught by different teachers.
Most districts developed their own because they lose they lose money if kids transfer to independent cyber charters.
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Post by bobosensei on May 29, 2020 12:00:15 GMT -5
I think when they say 60% of people are going to look into other options for schooling at home, that means folks will google some, talk it through, and then decide that they can't or won't do it. I don't think it means that many people will keep their kids out of school. Most working families won't have a way to do this. And I'm just guessing here, but I would think a higher percentage of families that only have one spouse working tend to be more religious, and it there are more religious folks in the red states that don't even think covid 19 is a big deal. So I think the families more equipped to support continued schooling at home are not the ones that think it is necessary.
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Post by steph08 on May 29, 2020 13:29:37 GMT -5
I just listened to a year-end message from our school district.
They indicated that they hope we are able to go back in August with all the students in school, face-to-face, etc., but realize that might not be possible with whatever rules/regulations/guidance comes out. They did not discuss other possibilities, as they don't want to confuse parents at this time. But it seems they are considering options. They have purchased chromebooks for all students in the district so that they have a 1-to-1 ratio and, if online learning is necessary again, then everybody will be covered.
We also live in a very rural area when Internet (especially good Internet) is hard to find, so they will be extending wireless services, so that, even though it is not ideal, parents and students could work from vehicles in the school parking lot and use the Internet that way, should online learning happen again.
We will find out soon what will come as a lot of PA counties are moving to green phase (restaurants and hair salons, etc. reopening at reduced capacity) today and next Friday.
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Post by thyme4change on May 29, 2020 13:35:42 GMT -5
Out governor announced schools would open on schedule next year. More details to follow. They will have guidelines and suggestions.
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Post by jerseygirl on May 29, 2020 13:57:30 GMT -5
What’s that saying? The devil is in the details
In NJ our governor won’t even share the names of people in his ‘task force’ nor any parameters or timelines for opening. No plans so he thinks he can’t be criticized.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 29, 2020 14:03:42 GMT -5
Just taking advice from the President, I see
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Post by jerseygirl on May 29, 2020 15:36:49 GMT -5
Wish NJ governor had anything approaching this but he won’t share anything Just that he wants more tax money [ No need for criticism of this but at least something is provided Of course anything can and will and should be criticized but in NJ we’re left with just an announcement once in a while without any context or rationale www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 29, 2020 16:11:07 GMT -5
You don't actually believe that Trump has read that document, and it has been watered down for political purposes, in addition to ignoring the science of this
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Post by Opti on May 30, 2020 9:40:25 GMT -5
Wish NJ governor had anything approaching this but he won’t share anything Just that he wants more tax money [ No need for criticism of this but at least something is provided Of course anything can and will and should be criticized but in NJ we’re left with just an announcement once in a while without any context or rationale www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/Looks pretty generic. I found this pretty easily on NJ.gov Its from 5/18. www.nj.gov/governor/news/news/562020/approved/20200518a.shtmlSTAGE 2 Restrictions are relaxed on additional activities that can be easily safeguarded. Phased-in businesses may include: More work activities are allowed at physical locations only if they adhere to safeguarding and modification guidelines. For example, work activities to be phased-in over the course of Stage 2 may include expanded retail, safeguarded restaurants with outdoor seating, limited personal care, and possibly indoor dining, museums, and libraries, all with significantly reduced capacity. All workers who can work from home continue to work from home. For example, a buying manager for restaurants. Some personal care services may be provided on a limited basis.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jun 1, 2020 21:49:05 GMT -5
I think when they say 60% of people are going to look into other options for schooling at home, that means folks will google some, talk it through, and then decide that they can't or won't do it. I don't think it means that many people will keep their kids out of school. Most working families won't have a way to do this. And I'm just guessing here, but I would think a higher percentage of families that only have one spouse working tend to be more religious, and it there are more religious folks in the red states that don't even think covid 19 is a big deal. So I think the families more equipped to support continued schooling at home are not the ones that think it is necessary. Red states like mine shut down when the coronavirus was virtually nonexistent in their states (unlike NewYork), endured 1 to 2 months of economic devastation, got ready for an influx of sick people, increased their testing capacity, trained their healthcare providers, and only then started opening up. Those are not the actions of people who don’t think coronavirus is a threat.
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