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Post by Lizard Queen on Aug 14, 2020 16:03:11 GMT -5
Wondering what the people here that know of such things, think of this? www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20053207v1And, if they determined that I was not immune to German measles when I gave birth 8 years ago, would I have gotten the MMR shot again in the hospital? (I got something, not sure exactly what.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 16:03:36 GMT -5
Local media says our positivity rate is down to 17%. Local idiots say it's all fake. I'm adding to my mask collection and hiding a lot. OMG! Down to that? My county is at 2.6%. Yep. We were at 23+ for a long time. Of course testing is way down now too. But Stupidity and Ignorance remain at all time highs
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 14, 2020 16:07:07 GMT -5
Wondering what the people here that know of such things, think of this? www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20053207v1And, if they determined that I was not immune to German measles when I gave birth 8 years ago, would I have gotten the MMR shot again in the hospital? (I got something, not sure exactly what.) Not worth what it is printed on. Preliminary, not peer-reviewed, all kinds of buzz words to suggest it has gotten more publicity than it deserves. Sort of how we got hydroxychloroquine as a treatment.
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Post by lurkyloo on Aug 14, 2020 21:32:54 GMT -5
Wondering what the people here that know of such things, think of this? www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20053207v1And, if they determined that I was not immune to German measles when I gave birth 8 years ago, would I have gotten the MMR shot again in the hospital? (I got something, not sure exactly what.) It’s pretty sloppy. Specifically: 29% sequence homology is...not much. Maybe if it were all clustered together, it would be important; the images suggest that the same residues are somewhat clustered spatially in the intact protein but not clustered in the primary sequence, but it’s an internal protein that would need to be chopped up into pieces for MHC presentation to jump start an immune response. So, pretty meaningless. Spike protein homology is only 20%; that’s heavily glycosylated anyway so skeptical that that’s relevant. Main thesis, that the age brackets where death rates began exceeding 1% is correlated with the dates patients began receiving MMR treatments, separated by country...weak and they made basically no effort to control for confounding factors. I mean, comparing death rates in Germany that dealt with it like a well oiled machine with Italy where they infamously ran out of hospital beds and doctors and left people to die at home? And assuming that differences in death rates by age brackets are down to MMR vaccination? Really? Also, the average difference in rubella IgG titer between moderate and severe cases looks impressive till you look at their confidence intervals. 161.9 +/- 147.6 vs 74.5 +/- 57.7...maybe there is a subset of patients for which the rubella response is significant but you can’t tell anything from those numbers. I mean, it probably wouldn’t hurt high risk people to get an mmr jab (unless they caught coronavirus going to the doctors office). And it might be interesting to do a real properly controlled study on the idea. But I wouldn’t personally recommend this for publication without, as they say, major revisions. (Clarification: medrxiv and biorxiv are where people put things they’ve submitted for publication before they get peer reviewed and accepted, or not. Doesn’t make them automatically true or automatically trash, just means they haven’t been vetted by those experience in the art.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 22:36:07 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first.
Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date...
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Post by lurkyloo on Aug 14, 2020 23:16:46 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first. Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date... The virus is very successful, by most viral criteria WaPo had a nice graphic (and article too I suppose   showing the current status of vaccine development. There are 7 currently in Phase 3 clinical trials (many more in phase 1 and 2) and I think some/most/all are gearing up for large scale manufacturing without actually knowing if they’ll be approved by the FDA, just so’s we’re ready to hit the ground running. There’s a mix of technology including modified RNA, viral protein and vectors. There are no guarantees of course but I think it likely that one or more will be approved in early 2021. Or maybe your county will just go with the Russian approach and use the whole population for Phase 3 trials
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 14, 2020 23:28:12 GMT -5
Well we have one confirmed case at my work. Their entire department is shut down for two weeks.
We don't interact with them but I figure it's only a matter of time till it hits closer.
Good reason to avoid the office area at all costs. With our extensive PPE, hand washing and sanitizing we're probably the better off area.
So yay the joy of being considered "essential". Wonder if the sales people will be expected to do.our job if it hits us? Or will temper tantrums ensue because how dare we get sick and risk their commission!
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Post by teen persuasion on Aug 15, 2020 7:32:36 GMT -5
My library will be opening to the public August 24 (limited hours, still doing curbside service around them so some staff can work with no direct public exposure). There's still the need for Board of Trustees to vote - they meet Monday (in person this time!).
Monday will be a busy day of meetings - the Trustees meeting, and 2 CSD meetings (plus one more Tuesday) livestreamed. Those are the ones required by the governor before opening up. The school district moved the deadline to choose remote learning to after the meetings (due to multiple questions on the pre-meeting online survey). There's also supposed to be one meeting for teachers (before the parent meetings); my coworker's DH is a teacher in the district, and we were trading known details at our staff meeting. Even teachers are pretty much in the dark. One detail she shared with me by e-mail after the teacher meeting - everyone will be required to wear masks. So, yay, they stated that outright, but, duh, it's a state mandate. Not like you have a choice. No removing masks when seated in class (as implied in the district reopening manual required by the state). It's not masks OR safe distancing, it's AND!
Even Cuomo's 3 meeting rule is ambiguous - are they meant to be a series of meetings, or 3 presentations of the same stuff at 3 different times. I'd assumed the first, but I suspect the district has gone for the second (with the afternoon, evening, and early next morning times). It will be interesting to see how sentiment leans. I think more are leaning to remote as Labor day looms. At least for those that have a choice, and don't need kids at school while they work.
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Post by ners on Aug 15, 2020 9:10:27 GMT -5
teen persuasion The libraries in my town have been open. They close during the day for during the day for cleaning. This is the main branch schedule. One branch which is under going an expansion is only open for curbside. Masks are required. Mondays – Thursdays 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Open to all 12 to 1 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 1 to 3 p.m. – Open to all 3 to 4 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 4 to 6 p.m. – Open to all 6 to 7 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 7 to 9 p.m. – Open to all Friday & Saturday 9 to 11 a.m. – Open to all 11 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 12 to 2 p.m. – Open to all 2 to 3 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 3 to 5 p.m. – Open to all Sunday 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. – Open to all 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 2:30 to 5 p.m. – Open to all
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Post by busymom on Aug 15, 2020 9:19:24 GMT -5
While I appreciate that our local school district is trying to be careful, it's going to be a big old mess here when school starts up. I think I'd take the first option, keeping the kids at home. (At least they're giving parents the option.) Kindergarten & 1st grade are going to have school 5 days a week. But, it looks like the other grades will be in school 2 days a week. I'd hate to be the parent of kids in different grades, where the schedule is totally different.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2020 11:04:17 GMT -5
Wondering what the people here that know of such things, think of this? www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20053207v1And, if they determined that I was not immune to German measles when I gave birth 8 years ago, would I have gotten the MMR shot again in the hospital? (I got something, not sure exactly what.) Not much. 29% homology is nothing. Why no statistics? I’m guessing for the antibody data it was not significant. Those are huge SD. Pretty sloppy data, which makes some unrealistic leaps. ETA: See Lurkyloo beat me to this. Good to see that I can still read a paper critically!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2020 11:18:41 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first. Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date... The virus is very successful, by most viral criteria WaPo had a nice graphic (and article too I suppose showing the current status of vaccine development. There are 7 currently in Phase 3 clinical trials (many more in phase 1 and 2) and I think some/most/all are gearing up for large scale manufacturing without actually knowing if they’ll be approved by the FDA, just so’s we’re ready to hit the ground running. There’s a mix of technology including modified RNA, viral protein and vectors. There are no guarantees of course but I think it likely that one or more will be approved in early 2021. Or maybe your county will just go with the Russian approach and use the whole population for Phase 3 trials I love this statement! No one seems to realize how perfect CV19 is in causing a pandemic. A high R0, a long incubation time and a highly variable pathological disease process makes this the perfect trifecta for viral survival and transmission. I don’t think that science could have manipulated a virus as perfect as nature has done to disrupt life. (Please don’t accept this statement as a challenge!)
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2020 11:21:59 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first. Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date... This makes no sense. Why give a vaccine to those whose immune system is incapable of responding? Immunizing their contacts and health care providers is the logical first step.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 15, 2020 11:35:53 GMT -5
The virus is very successful, by most viral criteria WaPo had a nice graphic (and article too I suppose showing the current status of vaccine development. There are 7 currently in Phase 3 clinical trials (many more in phase 1 and 2) and I think some/most/all are gearing up for large scale manufacturing without actually knowing if they’ll be approved by the FDA, just so’s we’re ready to hit the ground running. There’s a mix of technology including modified RNA, viral protein and vectors. There are no guarantees of course but I think it likely that one or more will be approved in early 2021. Or maybe your county will just go with the Russian approach and use the whole population for Phase 3 trials I love this statement! No one seems to realize how perfect CV19 is in causing a pandemic. A high R0, a long incubation time and a highly variable pathological disease process makes this the perfect trifecta for viral survival and transmission. I don’t think that science could have manipulated a virus as perfect as nature has done to disrupt life. (Please don’t accept this statement as a challenge!) The virus is a survivor for sure. It has done everything perfectly, I agree. One reason why there is no way this was engineered in a labe. The efficiency of asymptomatic spreaders is the best touch
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Post by wvugurl26 on Aug 15, 2020 11:51:31 GMT -5
My work had a presentation from Dr. Fauci the other day. He said he'd never seen something with such a wide range of symptoms from none to critically ill.
From a virus standpoint it is perfect. If it made everyone critically ill, it would have burnt out already.
If the asymptomatic didn't spread it, I'd say let people do what they want. No one gives a damn about protecting others. Their "right" to not wear a mask is more important. And that reality makes this thing even more depressing.
He did say beginning of 2021 is the hopeful date for having an effective, safe vaccine since there are several Phase 3 trials ongoing. It was refreshing and much needed personally to hear him speak with such honesty.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2020 12:08:00 GMT -5
My work had a presentation from Dr. Fauci the other day. He said he'd never seen something with such a wide range of symptoms from none to critically ill. From a virus standpoint it is perfect. If it made everyone critically ill, it would have burnt out already. If the asymptomatic didn't spread it, I'd say let people do what they want. No one gives a damn about protecting others. Their "right" to not wear a mask is more important. And that reality makes this thing even more depressing. He did say beginning of 2021 is the hopeful date for having an effective, safe vaccine since there are several Phase 3 trials ongoing. It was refreshing and much needed personally to hear him speak with such honesty. I think this is still optimistic. I’d guess early summer. The problem is that as it is not ethically possible to challenge the vaccinated with the virus, they are going to have to look at this statistically instead. That is, follow subjects in the months following vaccination and look for either the virus or the presence of disease as a natural occurrence. Then they get compared to the control group. Ultimately, the end point of the trial is protection from the virus, being able to elicit an immune response is only part of the equation. Unfortunately, this takes more time.
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Post by lurkyloo on Aug 15, 2020 12:27:03 GMT -5
WaPo also has an article on a project to do challenge testing, headline says they are developing a new virus strain (??) for it. I can’t bring myself to actually read the article
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 15, 2020 12:29:48 GMT -5
My work had a presentation from Dr. Fauci the other day. He said he'd never seen something with such a wide range of symptoms from none to critically ill. From a virus standpoint it is perfect. If it made everyone critically ill, it would have burnt out already. If the asymptomatic didn't spread it, I'd say let people do what they want. No one gives a damn about protecting others. Their "right" to not wear a mask is more important. And that reality makes this thing even more depressing. He did say beginning of 2021 is the hopeful date for having an effective, safe vaccine since there are several Phase 3 trials ongoing. It was refreshing and much needed personally to hear him speak with such honesty. I think this is still optimistic. I’d guess early summer. The problem is that as it is not ethically possible to challenge the vaccinated with the virus, they are going to have to look at this statistically instead. That is, follow subjects in the months following vaccination and look for either the virus or the presence of disease as a natural occurrence. Then they get compared to the control group. Ultimately, the end point of the trial is protection from the virus, being able to elicit an immune response is only part of the equation. Unfortunately, this takes more time. I personally think it will start improving by about 1 year from now, and hopefully be much better by the end of 2021. Just do not see how we test, manufacture, and distribute enough doses of an effective vaccine is less time. Not to mention the people who won't take it. We may have enough of a problem with employees if we make it mandatory to work, as we have seen with the flu vaccine mandate
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 12:39:03 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first. Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date... The virus is very successful, by most viral criteria WaPo had a nice graphic (and article too I suppose showing the current status of vaccine development. There are 7 currently in Phase 3 clinical trials (many more in phase 1 and 2) and I think some/most/all are gearing up for large scale manufacturing without actually knowing if they’ll be approved by the FDA, just so’s we’re ready to hit the ground running. There’s a mix of technology including modified RNA, viral protein and vectors. There are no guarantees of course but I think it likely that one or more will be approved in early 2021. Or maybe your county will just go with the Russian approach and use the whole population for Phase 3 trials I'd estimate you'll get a vaccine rate less than 10% here. If people refuse to wear masks for a "democrat hoax meant to harm Trump in the election" then I can't imagine them ever getting vaccinated for the same.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2020 12:41:11 GMT -5
WaPo also has an article on a project to do challenge testing, headline says they are developing a new virus strain (??) for it. I can’t bring myself to actually read the article I trotted over there and read the article. It does delineate most of the pitfalls of doing this, but the vast majority of the comments are ‘are they f#$&ing nuts?’ This is just all kinds of a bad idea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 12:44:28 GMT -5
Our public health officer said tonight the vaccine will be out either Q1 or Q2 of 2021 and will be given to residents of nursing homes first. Interesting, I wasn't aware we have a successful virus yet - let alone its release date... This makes no sense. Why give a vaccine to those whose immune system is incapable of responding? Immunizing their contacts and health care providers is the logical first step. Well, Fauci was on CNN yesterday saying when the vaccine comes out that's who will be vaccinated first- people in nursing homes since that's where most of the dead are coming from.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 12:45:09 GMT -5
WaPo also has an article on a project to do challenge testing, headline says they are developing a new virus strain (??) for it. I can’t bring myself to actually read the article Well, now that Hitler's in the White House, apparently we take a stab at "first do no harm?"
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Post by teen persuasion on Aug 15, 2020 13:45:08 GMT -5
teen persuasion The libraries in my town have been open. They close during the day for during the day for cleaning. This is the main branch schedule. One branch which is under going an expansion is only open for curbside. Masks are required. Mondays – Thursdays 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Open to all 12 to 1 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 1 to 3 p.m. – Open to all 3 to 4 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 4 to 6 p.m. – Open to all 6 to 7 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 7 to 9 p.m. – Open to all Friday & Saturday 9 to 11 a.m. – Open to all 11 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 12 to 2 p.m. – Open to all 2 to 3 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 3 to 5 p.m. – Open to all Sunday 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. – Open to all 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 2:30 to 5 p.m. – Open to all Yuck, opening and closing every hour or two to clean? I guess that's one way to keep patrons from lingering, though. We are a small rural village library, only 3 of us, and usually only 1 or 2 staff on at a time. We will try something like 11-2 curbside, 2-7 browsing for 2 days, then swap curbside to later for the next 2 days. Saturday all browsing, but close at 4. Some libraries in my system are allowing browsing by appointment only, otherwise curbside. Apparently no library has gone completely back to full open, normal hours in our 3 county system. Two opened to the public earlier than most, one bigger (lots of staff to clean), one tiny (so not much stuff to touch). We've put off opening because we've been trying to get work done inside - replaced carpeting, moved our main circ desk, which has led to rearranging our bookshelves in various areas. We also plan a new ramp and auto opening door, but installers are backed up. We really wish we could have scheduled the work for when we were entirely shut down, but no one could work then!
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Post by TheOtherMe on Aug 15, 2020 14:35:12 GMT -5
I live in a small rural town. We have a small branch here. They had reopened with reduced hours and no activities for kids.
I am guessing because of the number of cases in the county, they are closed again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 15:33:38 GMT -5
Yuck, opening and closing every hour or two to clean? I guess that's one way to keep patrons from lingering, though.We are a small rural village library, only 3 of us, and usually only 1 or 2 staff on at a time. We will try something like 11-2 curbside, 2-7 browsing for 2 days, then swap curbside to later for the next 2 days. Saturday all browsing, but close at 4. Some libraries in my system are allowing browsing by appointment only, otherwise curbside. Apparently no library has gone completely back to full open, normal hours in our 3 county system. Two opened to the public earlier than most, one bigger (lots of staff to clean), one tiny (so not much stuff to touch). We've put off opening because we've been trying to get work done inside - replaced carpeting, moved our main circ desk, which has led to rearranging our bookshelves in various areas. We also plan a new ramp and auto opening door, but installers are backed up. We really wish we could have scheduled the work for when we were entirely shut down, but no one could work then! Um, isn't that one of the purposes of the library - a place to linger? lol
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Post by jerseygirl on Aug 15, 2020 15:40:22 GMT -5
I’ve used our library online for years
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 15:52:47 GMT -5
WaPo also has an article on a project to do challenge testing, headline says they are developing a new virus strain (??) for it. I can’t bring myself to actually read the article I saw the headline and, even as an amateur, wondered how that would work as I thought vaccines, at least the seasonal flu one, are very specific to a strain. Isn't that part of the reason why the seasonal flu vaccine is not 100% effective, because there are many strains and they mutate as well?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 15:56:57 GMT -5
teen persuasion The libraries in my town have been open. They close during the day for during the day for cleaning. This is the main branch schedule. One branch which is under going an expansion is only open for curbside. Masks are required. Mondays – Thursdays 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Open to all 12 to 1 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 1 to 3 p.m. – Open to all 3 to 4 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 4 to 6 p.m. – Open to all 6 to 7 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 7 to 9 p.m. – Open to all Friday & Saturday 9 to 11 a.m. – Open to all 11 a.m. to 12 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 12 to 2 p.m. – Open to all 2 to 3 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 3 to 5 p.m. – Open to all Sunday 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. – Open to all 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. – Closed for cleaning 2:30 to 5 p.m. – Open to all I think our libraries are still closed, but some may be doing curbside pickup. Since our closest library has a huge presence of homeless people camped right outside the door, we pretty much gave up on it months ago. They also come into bathe in the bathrooms and take advantage of the a/c and heat. They did finally open up the book drop to return loaned materials, but it took us 3-4 drive-by visits to find an opportunity where a homeless person wasn't literally sitting under the drop site.
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Post by teen persuasion on Aug 15, 2020 16:33:24 GMT -5
Yes, we've been doing 72 hour quarantine of materials, too. It got very confusing when our ILL delivery resumed, because we were told to quarantine those items another 72 hours, so holds can take much longer than usual, just sitting here or there waiting to be released. We've had to change how we normally process items - things returned are put in quarantine for 3 days, then checked in (fine free). This is so that they don't appear to be available on the catalog, but people freak out that the items linger on their card, possibly getting late fees (which we waive, but later...). The boxes of quarantined items is one of our quandries - where do we put them that is convenient for us, but away from patrons who will try to browse thru them? And for patrons who pick up books while browsing, but ultimately decide not to check it out, should we also quarantine those items? It becomes endless. @shastasnewlife Yes, we've had lots of discussions about exactly what our mission IS now. Everything is turned on its head - put away all the toys and dress up costumes in Children's, don't encourage touching every book/magazine/dvd you are interested in, don't get too close when helping people with computer issues, no Lego club or Story Hour for kids, no book sales that pack in a crowd, hide away the chairs so no one settles in, discourage groups of kids/teens from hanging out, do we even put out local newspapers for patrons to read?
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