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Post by teen persuasion on May 14, 2020 18:07:37 GMT -5
And now my region is backsliding - we'd met 5/7 metrics, and now we are only 4/7. Hospitalization rate is back above 2 per 100k, as well as no 14 day declines in hospitalizations and hospital deaths. Regional monitoring dashboard
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Post by jerseygirl on May 14, 2020 19:34:15 GMT -5
Jersey shore beaches will open for Memorial Day! Yay!! Stores will open for curbside pickup. I don’t know what this will help? People here are wearing masks except when walking biking in neighborhood as it’s not crowded at all. houses are on at least half acre I don’t know when we can go into Manhattan or visit family in NJ? Husband is very high risk and we’re both in risk age groups
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 14, 2020 19:45:31 GMT -5
Found out the library is doing curbside pick up. Got a notice for a hold I have.
It's ridiculous how excited I am to go get it.
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Post by justme on May 14, 2020 22:37:01 GMT -5
Pretty much the same as before since so many businesses here got themselves essential status. While I don't plan on going out based on how many of us have been working all this time the few things that reopening like hair salons and tattoo parlors are a drop in the bucket. The casinos are shut down still which makes sense not only do they attract tourists but their biggest clientele tends to be the people most at risk of dying from this. The CWS, Summer Arts festival, Maha music festival and several other big tourist attraction things have been canceled in Omaha. The Broadway tour season is canceled. Not sure what will go on with local theaters yet they are currently still closed for the forseeable future. The museums are staying closed till at least the end of May. The Omaha zoo chooses to remain closed. I am worried about the zoo because I cannot see how they would be able to socially distance, they are 100% non profit and rely on people visiting to care for the animals. They do world renowned research that would go *poof* if the zoo goes under. Hoping some of their bigger benefactors like the ones with their names all over the buildings step up to the plate. We renewed our membership even if I don't get to use it this year and will do so again next year. Children's Museum might go under too there is just no way you could sterilize and socially distance in that place like you are supposed to under the rules. I suppose they could do limited tour groups during the summer to keep kids spaced out and still generate income. Rotate rooms on a fixed schedule and keep certain areas roped off. IDK. Pools are still up in the air. Even if they open I don't plan on taking the kids. Even if they limit how many people are in the pool I am sure there will be lines out the door and I'm not doing that, I won't do that even when there isn't a pandemic. One of the local zoo's opened up. Way less than capacity, no animal meetings, all the paths they have to see animals are now one way, and the news might have mentioned some other stuff.
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Post by lynnerself on May 14, 2020 22:40:02 GMT -5
It looks like we're moving forward pretty fast on phase one opening here. (Oregon) 31 of our 36 counties have been approved.
My county was one of 2 denied , because of a recent increase in hospitalizations that can't all be traced to a specific source. And of course, the 3 counties with the major population center have not yet applied.
And some things are opening state wide with strict guidelines. This includes all retail. I haven't read the restrictions yet.
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 14, 2020 23:28:39 GMT -5
People here never really stopped going out so I wouldn't know. Most businesses were closed down but people were lined up at McD's, all over Walmart and the grocer. In the convenience stores and just running around. Now its starting to show up. Couple weeks back we had like 6 in the county now 24, they are ramping up a couple a day. They are doing testing for 3 days here so I would imagine the rate will go up more in a few days. I can't believe its not worse then it is. The counties around us are really going up.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 15, 2020 8:07:52 GMT -5
Yep, but we don't understand the purpose of flattening the curve and are just scared of getting sick. /smh People are idiots. Wait until they decide there's a need for another lockdown and people refuse. That will be fun. There won't be anymore lockdowns. Who is going to issue it? The feds won't. It won't come from anyone at the state level.
What good will it do if my county shuts down. We're only 10% of the state's entire population.
And, chances are someone will sue my county and city officials to get that turned over.
Yep. I'm expecting lawsuits from the City of Milwaukee's decisions as well as Milwaukee County's decision to try to stay closed.
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Post by lynnerself on May 15, 2020 14:09:25 GMT -5
Interesting news. Wine tasting rooms are reopening in my state. And the one ski resort that runs year round.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 16, 2020 6:47:39 GMT -5
Found out the library is doing curbside pick up. Got a notice for a hold I have. It's ridiculous how excited I am to go get it. Hey don't feel ridiculous I got my notice yesterday. The book was actually on order when I put a hold on it. I kept checking back and finally library posted that it had been received. I'm excited since I was first in line to get it at my branch. Fast forward two days and online notice that ready to be picked up! Next day get notice that libraries are closed till further notice. There sat my much awaited book. But headed out today to get it -
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Post by Blonde Granny on May 16, 2020 6:51:38 GMT -5
Arkansas reopened some things May 4th. This state is now going the other way and increasing quickly with new cases. I haven't watched the Governors press conference the past few days, but makes me wonder how he is spinning this one.
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Post by NoNamePerson on May 16, 2020 6:56:50 GMT -5
OK, back to subject! State is doing slow opening but I am more concerned about the county I live in. Approximately 400,000 or so residents. But get an email from Mayor every night/morning (when I open it) giving full details concerning our county and updates so going by that since I'm not running all over the state. Actually gives number of test, number of confirmed deaths, number of confirmed cases. And the status of what is being allowed to open, etc.
I read others talking about people not wearing masks but the times I've been out and about I'd say 95% of people have on mask and observe distancing. Of course, I'm not running to doctors, drug stores and hospital three or four times a week. Just my usual run errands, etc. I do help a neighbor on occasion with trip to Cancer Center for treatment but that isn't an every week thing. I don't go in with her now just provide transportation to and from when her family member here can't do it.
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Post by giramomma on May 16, 2020 8:29:34 GMT -5
Arkansas reopened some things May 4th. This state is now going the other way and increasing quickly with new cases. I haven't watched the Governors press conference the past few days, but makes me wonder how he is spinning this one. We've also had two days of new cases, markedly higher. Yesterday was almost 500, Wednesday, it was around 250.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 16, 2020 8:36:10 GMT -5
Salvation Army was packed when I drove by yesterday. Unsure if that was mostly people working there or people shopping there. Not going to judge because it may be low income people who needed things like work boots and stuff but I've never seen it that crowded before.
So there goes that outlet because I am not comfortable thrift hunting in a store that packed. Maybe it'll go back to normal once the novelty of being able to leave the house wears off.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 8:46:16 GMT -5
The models for our state don't show the peak hitting until mid-July so I'm expecting a lot more cases. When they ran scenarios with the stay at home order staying in place until June 1st it made little difference in the number of people affected, it just shifted the peak to a little later. The model that did change things was keeping the order in place until mid-September but I'm pretty sure our governor knew a 7 month shutdown was just not going to fly.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 16, 2020 9:16:34 GMT -5
The models for our state don't show the peak hitting until mid-July so I'm expecting a lot more cases. When they ran scenarios with the stay at home order staying in place until June 1st it made little difference in the number of people affected, it just shifted the peak to a little later. The model that did change things was keeping the order in place until mid-September but I'm pretty sure our governor knew a 7 month shutdown was just not going to fly. Have any restrictions lifted in Minnesota? Seems like new cases there have surged (comparatively) in the last week.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 9:31:13 GMT -5
The models for our state don't show the peak hitting until mid-July so I'm expecting a lot more cases. When they ran scenarios with the stay at home order staying in place until June 1st it made little difference in the number of people affected, it just shifted the peak to a little later. The model that did change things was keeping the order in place until mid-September but I'm pretty sure our governor knew a 7 month shutdown was just not going to fly. Have any restrictions lifted in Minnesota? Seems like new cases there have surged (comparatively) in the last week. Not yet. The stay at home order expires on Monday. Then we'll be at these restrictions.
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Post by Ava on May 16, 2020 9:37:53 GMT -5
I want to say that my governor has done an outstanding job and I'm very proud of him.
Considering the lack of support from the federal government, the close distance to NYC and the few resources available, he's handled it like a champion.
We are now set to start to reopen May 20, but we'll do it slowly and we'll take a few weeks between each phase.
Our governor has remained calm, wears a mask when in public, and he's followed the advice of doctors and scientists. So glad I voted for him.
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Post by oped on May 16, 2020 9:50:22 GMT -5
Love those graphics MPL
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Post by oped on May 16, 2020 9:52:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure this is where this belongs? But my grocery pick up was the lightest its been since the beginning. Tons of things out of stock. I asked the girl who loaded me up if its been busy she said very.
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Post by giramomma on May 16, 2020 10:39:45 GMT -5
I know. Right. It's so easy.
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Post by azucena on May 16, 2020 11:20:33 GMT -5
I know. Right. It's so easy. It's almost like someone put some real thought into how to get the point across.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 16, 2020 21:34:16 GMT -5
Most of CA is moving into stage2 starting Monday. Of the 9 Bay Area counties which were the first in the country to go into lockdown 8 will be part of that slow reopening. Guess who lives in the one that doesn't! I had a few bad days after that but then I did what I always revert to - I looked at the numbers and they just aren't anywhere close to where they should be. We are the largest of the counties and the hardest hit. Still...this sucks
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Post by giramomma on May 17, 2020 8:54:18 GMT -5
Most of CA is moving into stage2 starting Monday. Of the 9 Bay Area counties which were the first in the country to go into lockdown 8 will be part of that slow reopening. Guess who lives in the one that doesn't! I had a few bad days after that but then I did what I always revert to - I looked at the numbers and they just aren't anywhere close to where they should be. We are the largest of the counties and the hardest hit. Still...this sucks So, that's one thing I struggle with. If we've flattened the curve, what's the number of new infections we should expect daily? I think knowing that number would help me assess better if all the SIP through May 26 is too long, too short, or just right... We just had a case of a nurse from Northern IL coming up to WI, opening up bar with family. No social distancing, no mask. Crowded bar on Wednesday. That story went viral, even on CNN. Said nurse now has to quarantine for a week. But the quarantine directive didn't come out for a few days. Which leaves me wonder if the quarantine was just optics, not a real need.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 17, 2020 9:03:28 GMT -5
There were protests at the beach in a nearby city. Thing is, I don't know of any beaches near me that were actually closed. They closed the parking lot for that particular one because people weren't social distancing, but you could still walk to it. It's not really beach weather yet here in Michigan, other than walking. It's too cold to play in the water. It seems like people are bitching about stuff just to bitch.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 17, 2020 9:34:12 GMT -5
Most of CA is moving into stage2 starting Monday. Of the 9 Bay Area counties which were the first in the country to go into lockdown 8 will be part of that slow reopening. Guess who lives in the one that doesn't! I had a few bad days after that but then I did what I always revert to - I looked at the numbers and they just aren't anywhere close to where they should be. We are the largest of the counties and the hardest hit. Still...this sucks So, that's one thing I struggle with. If we've flattened the curve, what's the number of new infections we should expect daily? I think knowing that number would help me assess better if all the SIP through May 26 is too long, too short, or just right... We just had a case of a nurse from Northern IL coming up to WI, opening up bar with family. No social distancing, no mask. Crowded bar on Wednesday. That story went viral, even on CNN. Said nurse now has to quarantine for a week. But the quarantine directive didn't come out for a few days. Which leaves me wonder if the quarantine was just optics, not a real need. I am sure that someone has an idea of the range for that number, but it is not written in stone. Bare minimum, the number of people needing hospitalization, needs to be low enough that hospitals can function relatively normally. After that, it how many infections and deaths can we tolerate. There is likely some formula that epidemiologist use to estimate that. But, according to republican leaders(and paul), these people were all on their last legs anyway, so why should we care. I need a haircut./s
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Post by teen persuasion on May 17, 2020 9:36:11 GMT -5
Most of CA is moving into stage2 starting Monday. Of the 9 Bay Area counties which were the first in the country to go into lockdown 8 will be part of that slow reopening. Guess who lives in the one that doesn't! I had a few bad days after that but then I did what I always revert to - I looked at the numbers and they just aren't anywhere close to where they should be. We are the largest of the counties and the hardest hit. Still...this sucks So, that's one thing I struggle with. If we've flattened the curve, what's the number of new infections we should expect daily? I think knowing that number would help me assess better if all the SIP through May 26 is too long, too short, or just right... We just had a case of a nurse from Northern IL coming up to WI, opening up bar with family. No social distancing, no mask. Crowded bar on Wednesday. That story went viral, even on CNN. Said nurse now has to quarantine for a week. But the quarantine directive didn't come out for a few days. Which leaves me wonder if the quarantine was just optics, not a real need. In NY, we aren't looking at new cases, but hospitalized cases, and deaths. The 2 metrics my region hasn't met yet are 14 day declines in net hospitalization (or fewer than 15 cases), and 14 day declines in hospital Covid deaths (or fewer than 5). Number of confirmed cases is a meaningless number, it depends on testing. If you don't test, you have no cases, a la Trump logic. If you begin testing more, your numbers rise, but they were probably there all along. NY Regional Monitoring Dashboard
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Post by Blonde Granny on May 17, 2020 9:39:44 GMT -5
This may be a strange question, but here goes: Everyone keeps talking about "testing" more and more of it....just who where and how are they testing They haven't tested anyone where I live, a couple at the VA may had been...but if no one tests us normal people staying at home who the hell are they testing??
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 9:56:24 GMT -5
This may be a strange question, but here goes: Everyone keeps talking about "testing" more and more of it....just who where and how are they testing They haven't tested anyone where I live, a couple at the VA may had been...but if no one tests us normal people staying at home who the hell are they testing?? In MO they've announced free testing for anyone who has symptoms.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 17, 2020 9:58:07 GMT -5
Initially, the only people who got tested were the extremely ill patients. As they got more tests, they tested first responders, medical workers, and those exposed to people who tested positive. Then you could get tested if you had symptoms - had to contact your doctor for a script, and go to testing sites.
As a part of opening up the state, they expanded testing, now you can get a test if you want one, even without symptoms. Still need to go thru your doctor for approval, but there's also antibody tests available, too. The county health director was originally saying that getting both was wrong, just get one, but that makes no sense. One tests infection now, one tests infection in the past. If you test negative for Covid-19, you could be recovered, you need the antibody test, too, to see if you were exposed previously.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 17, 2020 9:59:42 GMT -5
This may be a strange question, but here goes: Everyone keeps talking about "testing" more and more of it....just who where and how are they testing They haven't tested anyone where I live, a couple at the VA may had been...but if no one tests us normal people staying at home who the hell are they testing?? We have drive through testing. You get a doctors order, drive up, and are tested without getting out of your car. Right now, we test all pro-op patients, otherwise, I order testing on people with symptoms suggestive of Covid. The state is in the process of testing all nursing home patients. Once that is done, then we will test all nursing home employees. We test any patient admitted who has any symptoms suggestive of infection. In a perfect world, we would test all admissions. The ED tests symptomatic patients. If testing capacity was adequate, you would test close contacts of infected patients, and if negative quarantine them. Retesting them if they aren't ill is controversial. This would be the place for contact tracing and monitoring those people. Or, you can put your head in the sand as the president and many republicans want to do. You don't have any cases if you don't test. But I can guarantee that the hospitals will start testing alot if infections spike and show up on their doorsteps. Self-preservation will kick in and trump ideology.
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