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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on Mar 4, 2021 7:45:46 GMT -5
We reopened the bars with capacity restrictions about two weeks ago. The number of new cases stopped declining almost instantly. New cases are now on the upswing. Hospitalizations are static and deaths are still trending downward.
I expect hospitalizations and deaths will start going up again soon. We haven't jabbed nearly enough people to keep that from happening.
I wonder what percentage of the people who have gotten the vaccine already would be the ones willing to go to a bar or restaurant right now anyways. Each state has its own priority list but is seems like healthcare workers and seniors were at the top of everyone’s list. These also seem like the people who wouldn’t be in a bar right now anyways (either because bars aren’t part of their lifestyle or they know the severity of covid). Given that, i would think anybody going to a bar at this time probably isn’t vaccinated and we will see no difference from the trend/spread when bars were open and we had no vaccine. Very scary thinking about what will be coming.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 4, 2021 8:17:48 GMT -5
Maryland is in 1C. Adults 65-74 in this phase. lurkyloo would you qualify under lab services? Or are they talking the people at like Labcorp there?
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Post by lurkyloo on Mar 4, 2021 8:22:50 GMT -5
Maryland is in 1C. Adults 65-74 in this phase. lurkyloo would you qualify under lab services? Or are they talking the people at like Labcorp there? Pretty sure I don’t qualify, I do non-Covid related research. Good to hear they are making progress...I was talking to my over 75 neighbors a month or two ago and they were quite incensed at the 65+ group getting to sign up too. ETA: I’m in tier 3b at work, which is admittedly full of lab rats. I think they just moved to tier 2.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 9:14:00 GMT -5
I wonder what percentage of the people who have gotten the vaccine already would be the ones willing to go to a bar or restaurant right now anyways. Each state has its own priority list but is seems like healthcare workers and seniors were at the top of everyone’s list. These also seem like the people who wouldn’t be in a bar right now anyways (either because bars aren’t part of their lifestyle or they know the severity of covid). Given that, i would think anybody going to a bar at this time probably isn’t vaccinated and we will see no difference from the trend/spread when bars were open and we had no vaccine. Very scary thinking about what will be coming. Yeah, this senior isn't in a big hurry to go into bars, even after I get the second shot, and on my next road trip to SC to visit family I still plan to bring as much food as possible with me for the overnight on the drive and will still walk out of convenience stores where masking isn't enforced after using the facilities if I need to. The convenience stores were pretty bad about this on my last trip and I started using the bathrooms at roadside rest stops instead. The only thing I'll change is that I'll feel better about getting in a plane but that's not scheduled till June 26. I'll wear a mask no matter what the rules are.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 4, 2021 10:41:21 GMT -5
We reopened the bars with capacity restrictions about two weeks ago. The number of new cases stopped declining almost instantly. New cases are now on the upswing. Hospitalizations are static and deaths are still trending downward.
I expect hospitalizations and deaths will start going up again soon. We haven't jabbed nearly enough people to keep that from happening.
I wonder what percentage of the people who have gotten the vaccine already would be the ones willing to go to a bar or restaurant right now anyways. Each state has its own priority list but is seems like healthcare workers and seniors were at the top of everyone’s list. These also seem like the people who wouldn’t be in a bar right now anyways (either because bars aren’t part of their lifestyle or they know the severity of covid). Given that, i would think anybody going to a bar at this time probably isn’t vaccinated and we will see no difference from the trend/spread when bars were open and we had no vaccine. Very scary thinking about what will be coming. I agree that we didn't start by vaccinating the nightclub crew. To compound that, the people I know who are old enough to get the vaccine, but have not, are also the only people I know that are over 60 but still hang out at bars.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2021 11:39:44 GMT -5
Interesting article regarding the virus and the possible dangers of isolation. A College President Worried About the Risks of Dorm Isolation. So He Moved In.Col. Mark Anarumo, the president of Norwich University, had been through suicides of students during in-room lockdown. He thought he could help by moving into the dorm. NORTHFIELD, Vt. — Derek Furtado, a sophomore at Norwich University, had just stepped out of the shower in his dormitory and was shaving, a towel wrapped around his waist, when he looked to his left and saw the figure of a man in military uniform. “That was when my heart sunk,” recalled Mr. Furtado, a cadet who plans to commission into the Coast Guard. He pulled himself together, stood at attention and said, “Good morning, sir!” The circumstances were not ideal. “He has two stars on his chest,” Mr. Furtado said. “I’m in a towel.” But he would have to get used to it, because it turned out that Col. Mark C. Anarumo, the university’s president, was his new hallmate. Dr. Anarumo, a recent arrival to this private military college, had decided that the best way to support students forced to quarantine during the coronavirus pandemic was to move into their dormitory. He had been the one who gave the order for in-room quarantine, a decision he made, he said, with a feeling “between caution and dread.” He knew — because he had lived through it — that isolating students in their rooms put them in another kind of danger. “So that’s when I decided, I’ve got to move into the dorm,” he said. Dr. Anarumo, 50, who retired from the Air Force in 2020 and has a doctorate in criminal justice, said he wanted to be treated like any other resident. That meant accepting the lone single that happened to be available, No. 512. Complete article here: A College President Worried About the Risks of Dorm Isolation. So He Moved In.
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Post by Opti on Mar 4, 2021 12:56:45 GMT -5
Isolation is a problem. That's why I think where I work was cleared for in person visits on both sides of the facility. I feel nervous about the non assisted living side because it is not composed of entirely Covid free patients. One has to be Covid free for a significant time to have an indoor visit, but far too many visitors wear inadequate masks.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 5, 2021 16:46:18 GMT -5
Our school just announced they're going back to 5 day a week in person starting Mar. 22nd. They had gone down to 4 days with Wednesday's devoted to distance learners when a lot opted for that, but there are only a handful of people doing that now. So, next week is Spring break, the week after that is quarantine week (for any kids that traveled) and then a regular school schedule again but still staying in their pods.
I was kind of liking "sleep in Wednesday's".
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 6, 2021 11:40:15 GMT -5
We are back in School on Monday....... All the kids are getting tested... so it will be a different year group per day. (tested twice week after that) They are also wearing masks in lessons this side of Easter. The corridors are pretty packed with kids bouncing around at lesson change .... so if there is a danger it will be there. Looking forward to it..... especially as I'm getting a vaccine jab on Thursday. (Just got to not get the virus for the next few weeks until it matures) Our infection rate is going down fast....., vaccine roll out is good. Spring is coming...... and there is some light on the horizon at last.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 6, 2021 13:52:58 GMT -5
High schoolers appear to not want to go back. What's up with that?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 6, 2021 14:39:17 GMT -5
I would suspect some high school students have been bullied or otherwise do not enjoy the experience. My next door neighbor transferred to a new school for her senior year. They moved after her mom got married to the guy next door. She doesn't care if they ever go in person. She wants to be finished and move onto her post college plans.
I'm sure it would be hard probably to make new friends if the bulk of students have been together for 3 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 22:12:59 GMT -5
High schoolers appear to not want to go back. What's up with that? I would have been perfectly happy learning on-line- I was a motivated introvert. I probably would have gotten much further in French, Physics and Math than I did following the school curriculum. Forward to the present- BF and I are in Fargo tonight, It's jarring to see people in the hotel lobby without masks. Major companies such as Hilton and Subway require employees to wear them but customers are not. No local laws require them. Needless to say, BF and I are masking and eating takeout/drive-through only.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 7, 2021 12:46:27 GMT -5
I would suspect some high school students have been bullied or otherwise do not enjoy the experience. My next door neighbor transferred to a new school for her senior year. They moved after her mom got married to the guy next door. She doesn't care if they ever go in person. She wants to be finished and move onto her post college plans. I'm sure it would be hard probably to make new friends if the bulk of students have been together for 3 years. Sure. But, I've now talked to a dozen high schoolers, and I just think change is hard. They feel like they are in a groove, and don't want to toss the apple cart. That makes sense for kids who are succeeding with online learning, but some of those kids aren't doing well, but insist going back to school will make it worse.
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Post by Tired Tess on Mar 7, 2021 13:42:10 GMT -5
I had, and still have, a core group of friends in HS. If I could have stayed home and kept in touch with them I would have grabbed that opportunity with both hands and my teeth. Having friends doesn’t mean you’re not going to get bullied, humiliated, or ignored. I’ll stay home, thank you. And as an adult who will make her own decisions, I will NEVER go into a classroom situation for myself ever again.
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Post by swamp on Mar 7, 2021 19:01:37 GMT -5
High schoolers appear to not want to go back. What's up with that? My son thinks online school is the best thing in the world.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 8, 2021 9:27:21 GMT -5
I was and am an introvert. I would have loved online school. No people, no crowded halls, no figuring out how I get alone for lunch, etc.
I am doing genealogy classes and classes on the history of Iowa. I'm taking 4 or 5 each week by choice.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 8, 2021 11:40:02 GMT -5
I would suspect some high school students have been bullied or otherwise do not enjoy the experience. My next door neighbor transferred to a new school for her senior year. They moved after her mom got married to the guy next door. She doesn't care if they ever go in person. She wants to be finished and move onto her post college plans. I'm sure it would be hard probably to make new friends if the bulk of students have been together for 3 years. Sure. But, I've now talked to a dozen high schoolers, and I just think change is hard. They feel like they are in a groove, and don't want to toss the apple cart. That makes sense for kids who are succeeding with online learning, but some of those kids aren't doing well, but insist going back to school will make it worse. Our HS has been hybrid off/on and from what I've heard from HS parents is that there is no point to going in-person. The teachers are teaching the remote kids and in-person kids at the same time, so they are forced to teach through the screen and tailor the lesson to the at-home kids. If that's the case, I'd rather be at home too. I know one family that makes their kid go to school on their in-person days and they said that he has one class where he's the only one in-person. My kids are still elementary/middle school and I think they like both. They have done the full remote, hybrid, and now they are close to being entirely in.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 8, 2021 15:45:09 GMT -5
Sure. But, I've now talked to a dozen high schoolers, and I just think change is hard. They feel like they are in a groove, and don't want to toss the apple cart. That makes sense for kids who are succeeding with online learning, but some of those kids aren't doing well, but insist going back to school will make it worse. Our HS has been hybrid off/on and from what I've heard from HS parents is that there is no point to going in-person. The teachers are teaching the remote kids and in-person kids at the same time, so they are forced to teach through the screen and tailor the lesson to the at-home kids. If that's the case, I'd rather be at home too. I know one family that makes their kid go to school on their in-person days and they said that he has one class where he's the only one in-person. My kids are still elementary/middle school and I think they like both. They have done the full remote, hybrid, and now they are close to being entirely in. My youngest starts back two days a week next week. This Friday will be exactly one year since she stepped foot in the school. She wants to go back and while I’m nervous, I’m allowing it. At some point, life has to get back to normal.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 8, 2021 17:02:21 GMT -5
Our HS has been hybrid off/on and from what I've heard from HS parents is that there is no point to going in-person. The teachers are teaching the remote kids and in-person kids at the same time, so they are forced to teach through the screen and tailor the lesson to the at-home kids. If that's the case, I'd rather be at home too. I know one family that makes their kid go to school on their in-person days and they said that he has one class where he's the only one in-person. My kids are still elementary/middle school and I think they like both. They have done the full remote, hybrid, and now they are close to being entirely in. My youngest starts back two days a week next week. This Friday will be exactly one year since she stepped foot in the school. She wants to go back and while I’m nervous, I’m allowing it. At some point, life has to get back to normal. I live in a blue state that has been fairly restrictive, but parents in my area have been pushing pretty hard to get the kids in school more. We were doing an AB schedule to start out the year, but then transitioned to more days in right before the surge in November. After that we went remote, then went back to being in school 2-3 days a week. Very shortly we will transition to full in-person with lunch at school. Overall, there have been very few cases in our state and very few in the school, but we'll see. My kids want to go back, even my youngest who really likes being at home. I can see it both ways. It does seem like they have good mitigations in place at school, but part of me wonders if you're just better off keeping more distance in school and then going back to all in next year when more of the population is vaccinated.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 8, 2021 19:57:54 GMT -5
My youngest starts back two days a week next week. This Friday will be exactly one year since she stepped foot in the school. She wants to go back and while I’m nervous, I’m allowing it. At some point, life has to get back to normal. I live in a blue state that has been fairly restrictive, but parents in my area have been pushing pretty hard to get the kids in school more. We were doing an AB schedule to start out the year, but then transitioned to more days in right before the surge in November. After that we went remote, then went back to being in school 2-3 days a week. Very shortly we will transition to full in-person with lunch at school. Overall, there have been very few cases in our state and very few in the school, but we'll see. My kids want to go back, even my youngest who really likes being at home. I can see it both ways. It does seem like they have good mitigations in place at school, but part of me wonders if you're just better off keeping more distance in school and then going back to all in next year when more of the population is vaccinated. Also in a blue area of a blue state. One of our school districts has been open this year. My daughters school was open at the start of the year with online option available. They closed once we had the major spoke starting with Halloween. They opened back up at the beginning of February but we stayed online. My daughter has been asking to go back (she misses her friends). The school called me as they are trying to transition the kids to get them used to school again. There will be no online option for summer or fall I do want to note that the school that has been open has faired no worse than the schools that have closed. They do a great job of social distancing, masks, cleaning, etc. If I could be reasonable when it comes to Covid, I would have already sent her back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 20:13:23 GMT -5
Went to cleaners, UPS store, local garden center, Home Depot and PetSmart on the day that Texas was fully open and no mask mandate. All biz still requiring masks and only saw 2 folks without them, 1 at PetSmart and one at Home Depot. I profusely thanked the well-masked staff at all stores.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 9:32:28 GMT -5
My brother reports that the governor of SC has ordered LTC facilities to allow visitors starting next week- masks, distanced, no touching... but it's a start. Dad has been in one for over a year and it's been awful- good facility (thank heaven he has the resources to pay for it) but visiting with him through glass, talking on phones has been a real strain. I was planning on going in late May but may move that up. My second vaccine dose is scheduled for 3/27 and I've safely done road trips through all of this. Not ready for planes yet.
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 12, 2021 11:07:01 GMT -5
I live in a blue state that has been fairly restrictive, but parents in my area have been pushing pretty hard to get the kids in school more. We were doing an AB schedule to start out the year, but then transitioned to more days in right before the surge in November. After that we went remote, then went back to being in school 2-3 days a week. Very shortly we will transition to full in-person with lunch at school. Overall, there have been very few cases in our state and very few in the school, but we'll see. My kids want to go back, even my youngest who really likes being at home. I can see it both ways. It does seem like they have good mitigations in place at school, but part of me wonders if you're just better off keeping more distance in school and then going back to all in next year when more of the population is vaccinated. Also in a blue area of a blue state. One of our school districts has been open this year. My daughters school was open at the start of the year with online option available. They closed once we had the major spoke starting with Halloween. They opened back up at the beginning of February but we stayed online. My daughter has been asking to go back (she misses her friends). The school called me as they are trying to transition the kids to get them used to school again. There will be no online option for summer or fall I do want to note that the school that has been open has faired no worse than the schools that have closed. They do a great job of social distancing, masks, cleaning, etc. If I could be reasonable when it comes to Covid, I would have already sent her back. Hindsight I regret pulling the kids out this year sometimes. I've loved the time with them, but the school did a very good job and its hard not to feel like things would have been fine. My son is in the health aides office multiple times a day though, so his chances still would have been higher, and he's higher risk, so I think I would have made the same choice. But honestly I'm not sure. I'm feeling so much relief though, the light at the end of the tunnel is grtting closer.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 12, 2021 11:51:35 GMT -5
I live in a blue state that has been fairly restrictive, but parents in my area have been pushing pretty hard to get the kids in school more. We were doing an AB schedule to start out the year, but then transitioned to more days in right before the surge in November. After that we went remote, then went back to being in school 2-3 days a week. Very shortly we will transition to full in-person with lunch at school. Overall, there have been very few cases in our state and very few in the school, but we'll see. My kids want to go back, even my youngest who really likes being at home. I can see it both ways. It does seem like they have good mitigations in place at school, but part of me wonders if you're just better off keeping more distance in school and then going back to all in next year when more of the population is vaccinated. Also in a blue area of a blue state. One of our school districts has been open this year. My daughters school was open at the start of the year with online option available. They closed once we had the major spoke starting with Halloween. They opened back up at the beginning of February but we stayed online. My daughter has been asking to go back (she misses her friends). The school called me as they are trying to transition the kids to get them used to school again. There will be no online option for summer or fall I do want to note that the school that has been open has faired no worse than the schools that have closed. They do a great job of social distancing, masks, cleaning, etc. If I could be reasonable when it comes to Covid, I would have already sent her back. Our school was in person pretty much all year (there was a month around Christmas they closed down because numbers in the community were getting so high).
There was ZERO transmission within the school. Occasionally there would be someone that would test positive and that class would have to quarantine (Carrot was affected by this once since Aug), and it was inconvenient having no before or after care, but for the most part it has been going pretty smoothly. Carrot won't be going back on Monday because he traveled over spring break, but he's not alone, there are 7 kids in his class that are choosing remote this week and getting tested before returning.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 12, 2021 17:25:25 GMT -5
From the Press Release today. The University of Minnesota announced today that all of its campuses (Crookston, Duluth, Morris, Rochester and the Twin Cities) are planning to return to fully on-campus operations this fall. “Given projections on the number of Minnesotans who will be vaccinated, and relying on continued guidance from our public health colleagues, we are increasingly reassured that we can bring students, faculty and staff back to our campuses while effectively minimizing the risk to our community,'' said University of Minnesota President Joan Gabel. This is seriously happy dance time at our house (and in my kid's dorm room)
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2021 17:50:21 GMT -5
Apparently, my state isn't able to keep cases down and have restaurants open at 50% capacity. It's frustrating.
Also saw a story that they will be opening up vaccinations to all adults April 5. That may sound good, except I think that will push me farther back, being almost 49, and current group is 50+. My only hope is that Ill be able to get one sooner through work. Apparently, providing water and electric not being considered essential enough.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2021 18:14:26 GMT -5
Apparently, my state isn't able to keep cases down and have restaurants open at 50% capacity. It's frustrating. Also saw a story that they will be opening up vaccinations to all adults April 5. That may sound good, except I think that will push me farther back, being almost 49, and current group is 50+. My only hope is that Ill be able to get one sooner through work. Apparently, providing water and electric not being considered essential enough. Once the doors are wide open, it is just a matter of getting on the schedule.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2021 18:46:18 GMT -5
Apparently, my state isn't able to keep cases down and have restaurants open at 50% capacity. It's frustrating. Also saw a story that they will be opening up vaccinations to all adults April 5. That may sound good, except I think that will push me farther back, being almost 49, and current group is 50+. My only hope is that Ill be able to get one sooner through work. Apparently, providing water and electric not being considered essential enough. Once the doors are wide open, it is just a matter of getting on the schedule. The story mentioned people with risk factors getting on the schedule first. I don't have the right risk factors, so I'm SOL. My state has no lack of unhealthy people, and I'm considered healthy in comparison.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 12, 2021 18:58:53 GMT -5
I guess MN has relaxed all their restrictions as of yesterday. Bars and restaurants can go to 75% capacity (was at 50%) and gyms, pools, entertainment venues up to 50% from 25%. No capacity limits on churches, but must social distance. Gatherings are 50 people outdoors, 15 people indoors. Seated outdoor venues can go 25% capacity over 500 with a max of 10,000 people.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2021 19:59:27 GMT -5
Once the doors are wide open, it is just a matter of getting on the schedule. The story mentioned people with risk factors getting on the schedule first. I don't have the right risk factors, so I'm SOL. My state has no lack of unhealthy people, and I'm considered healthy in comparison. So, they aren't opening it up to all adults, only the ones with risk factors?
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