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Post by billisonboard on Apr 28, 2020 19:32:59 GMT -5
Jumpoff Joe LakeEight miles south of Chewelah just off Highway US 395. This lake is open year-round, with catchable-size Rainbow and Brown trout plants providing some action here. Largemouth Bass and Yellow Perch also do fair despite a goldfish population. Fishing opens back up May 5th. It is a nice little spot for you and Jill to vacation. We can't have four more years of the current President. Fall on your sword Joe. You have become too much of a distraction.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 8:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 9:43:35 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now.
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 29, 2020 9:57:58 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now. I saw that, but I also saw this "We can't have four more years of the current President". Does the person who originally posted this (wherever that was) believe Biden is the current president? Or does s/he believe that if Biden goes away trump will dissolve into thin air and disappear automatically? This is very confusing.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 10:29:30 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now. I saw that, but I also saw this "We can't have four more years of the current President". Does the person who originally posted this (wherever that was) believe Biden is the current president? Or does s/he believe that if Biden goes away trump will dissolve into thin air and disappear automatically? This is very confusing.
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I wrote the statement you are addressing. President Trump is the current President. He is also running to be the President for the next four years. Joe Biden is currently the presumptive lead candidate running against Trump. I think the United States would be seriously harmed with Trump being elected to four more years in office. I think that the current allegations against Biden create a serious impediment to him defeating Trump in November. I think Biden needs to announce he will not accept the Democratic nomination. Jump Off Joe.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 10:31:08 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now. For whom? Bernie, who didn't get enough votes and isn't a democrat? Just start the whole process over with Amy, Pete and Elizabeth?
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Post by dondub on Apr 29, 2020 10:35:17 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now. For whom? Bernie, who didn't get enough votes and isn't a democrat? Just start the whole process over with Amy, Pete and Elizabeth? Andrew Cuomo appears to be acceptable.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 10:35:54 GMT -5
Biden needs to step aside now. For whom? Bernie, who didn't get enough votes and isn't a democrat? Just start the whole process over with Amy, Pete and Elizabeth? At this point the Democratic National Committee would need to select a candidate. They need to determine who they think can promote best to the American people.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 29, 2020 10:36:06 GMT -5
I say he wins the nomination and wins the presidency, despite this. but admittedly, I might be wrong, and I ceased caring about the US in 2016.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 10:37:20 GMT -5
For whom? Bernie, who didn't get enough votes and isn't a democrat? Just start the whole process over with Amy, Pete and Elizabeth? Andrew Cuomo appears to be acceptable. Certainly a viable option. I can see that working.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 10:43:24 GMT -5
I say he wins the nomination and wins the presidency, despite this. but admittedly, I might be wrong, and I ceased caring about the US in 2016. My concern is that there is no mechanism for there to be a resolution to the allegation. Biden is currently a private citizen. A civil lawsuit filed by anyone would not be resolved by November. This will simply fester in the press.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 29, 2020 10:52:49 GMT -5
I say he wins the nomination and wins the presidency, despite this. but admittedly, I might be wrong, and I ceased caring about the US in 2016. My concern is that there is no mechanism for there to be a resolution to the allegation. Biden is currently a private citizen. A civil lawsuit filed by anyone would not be resolved by November. This will simply fester in the press. he should either pull a Stormy Daniels on this or seek a settlement, and apologize.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 11:01:09 GMT -5
It is a change in what has taken place recent times. But the procedure that has been used by political parties to select a nominee has changed other times in the past as well.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 11:02:25 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 11:09:42 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules. It will be a tough sell. Tougher then selling the old guy accused of sexual assault of a young woman? I don't think it would be.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 29, 2020 11:09:47 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty level headed reply to the OP: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52462113interestingly, they used almost the exact phrase I used to describe Trump recently: She said Biden had requested that she serve because he liked her legs. She told the paper that she did not feel like the alleged acts toward her were about sex but rather "power and control". She compared her experience to a lamp.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 11:23:43 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules. It will be a tough sell. Tougher then selling the old guy accused of sexual assault of a young woman? I don't think it would be. Hard to say. It might be a wash. No one that would vote blue believes that Trump's record is any better. So, the decision will be made on other factors. Like they are both senile. And they are both old white jerks. And they both are going to die in office. Wait....what was I saying here? Oh yes. This election, like the last one, will be voting for the lessor of two evils.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 11:30:28 GMT -5
I think this is a pretty level headed reply to the OP: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52462113interestingly, they used almost the exact phrase I used to describe Trump recently: She said Biden had requested that she serve because he liked her legs. She told the paper that she did not feel like the alleged acts toward her were about sex but rather "power and control". She compared her experience to a lamp. I agree it is good to add to the discussion. From the link: In the midst of this pandemic, almost no other news is breaking through. In a normal cycle this story would be getting a lot more attention in newspaper headlines and on cable TV. Today it barely registers. That's helpful for Mr Biden. I agree short term. My concern is that it will break through come October when it will be too late.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 29, 2020 11:32:12 GMT -5
I used to think this kind of accusation would derail a campaign but not anymore.
The voters will have to decide if the would prefer someone with a thirty year old assault accusation (no witnesses) or someone caught on tape talking about how much he loves grabbing women by their private parts.
I don’t see how the dems could pick someone out of the crowd and pronounce them the new dem candidate. We have primaries for a reason.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Apr 29, 2020 11:41:51 GMT -5
I don't think there is any possibility of removing biden, unfortunately.
Could we get a truly viable 3rd party candidate? It seems unlikely. But it's going to have to happen someday.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 12:03:41 GMT -5
... I don’t see how the dems could pick someone out of the crowd and pronounce them the new dem candidate. We have primaries for a reason. I am not sure if this is questioning legal process or practical result of them doing it. re process: Biden is leading but no one currently has enough delegates to have the nomination locked up. If he were to announce he would decline the nomination, it would throw the decision to the convention. I can't see the Democratic National Committee not having a desired candidate announced. Doing otherwise, leaving it wide open to a floor debate and who knows how many votes before a candidate is finally selected, would be a disaster. re practical: If Biden doesn't voluntarily step aside, I don't see how they could sidestep him. But if he does, it has to go to the convention.
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Post by Bob Ross on Apr 29, 2020 12:03:45 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules. It will be a tough sell. Tougher then selling the old guy accused of sexual assault of a young woman? I don't think it would be. You mean Biden or Trump?
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Post by swamp on Apr 29, 2020 12:06:12 GMT -5
For whom? Bernie, who didn't get enough votes and isn't a democrat? Just start the whole process over with Amy, Pete and Elizabeth? Andrew Cuomo appears to be acceptable. No, Cuomo is a vindictive prick and has his own issues with corruption. Run him in a nationwide campaign and it's going to get ugly. Granted, what he's done is nothing like what Trump has done, but for some reason Trump is teflon.
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Post by dondub on Apr 29, 2020 12:07:13 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules. Not sure if you are referring to Cuomo, but he is not just a dude on tv. What I want is a Demo candidate without usable baggage. No “sleepy, sniffy, gropy senile Joe” over and over and over again.
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Post by dondub on Apr 29, 2020 12:09:20 GMT -5
Andrew Cuomo appears to be acceptable. No, Cuomo is a vindictive prick and has his own issues with corruption. Run him in a nationwide campaign and it's going to get ugly. Granted, what he's done is nothing like what Trump has done, but for some reason Trump is teflon. I know you have called him a douch and now a vindictive prick (not that we don’t need one to go against Trump). But what of this corruption of which you speak? Trump sleeps on dirty sheets!
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 12:11:15 GMT -5
Side stepping the voters by putting in a random dude who has been on TV will not go well with the message that we must vote out the TV-person fascist that doesn't respect the rules. Not sure if you are referring to Cuomo, but he is not just a dude on tv. What I want is a Demo candidate without usable baggage. No “sleepy, sniffy, gropy senile Joe” over and over and over again. Ha ha ha ha ha. First, EVERYONE has usable baggage. Second, Trump will just make up a bunch of baggage, so even if you found a perfect candidate, they would be puke by the end of the campaign. Cuomo is problematic. He just isn't getting heat for his deficiencies at this exact moment.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 29, 2020 12:11:21 GMT -5
I don't think there is any possibility of removing biden, unfortunately. ... Technical point. Biden is the presumptive nominee but is not officially in any position from which he would have to be removed. There are enough delegate votes uncommitted (and committed to others) right now to deny him the nomination.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 29, 2020 12:14:47 GMT -5
I don't think there is any possibility of removing biden, unfortunately. ... Technical point. Biden is the presumptive nominee but is not officially in any position from which he would have to be removed. There are enough delegate votes uncommitted (and committed to others) right now to deny him the nomination. Great, find someone who can get all those delegates and get them on the ballot and have the people pick their candidate. The DNC already has a black mark for "shoving Hillary down our throats". Removing the front runner and dropping in a rando will be way worse.
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Post by dondub on Apr 29, 2020 12:15:14 GMT -5
Not sure if you are referring to Cuomo, but he is not just a dude on tv. What I want is a Demo candidate without usable baggage. No “sleepy, sniffy, gropy senile Joe” over and over and over again. Ha ha ha ha ha. First, EVERYONE has usable baggage. Second, Trump will just make up a bunch of baggage, so even if you found a perfect candidate, they would be puke by the end of the campaign. Cuomo is problematic. He just isn't getting heat for his deficiencies at this exact moment. I just don’t know enough about that problematic, vindictive douche I guess. I do know enough about Joe who was never in my top 5.
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