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Post by Gardening Grandma on Apr 21, 2020 19:47:42 GMT -5
I’ve been following those stories, but have to wonder “What does the Fed want with the PPE?” It’s not like the feds are going to distribute it to needier states. Is Jared selling it on the side?
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Post by kadee79 on Apr 21, 2020 19:55:25 GMT -5
I have no idea...but remember...Jarred said all those supplies belonged to "THEM" not the states!
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Post by azucena on Apr 22, 2020 8:11:42 GMT -5
I’ve been following those stories, but have to wonder “What does the Fed want with the PPE?” It’s not like the feds are going to distribute it to needier states. Is Jared selling it on the side? Not the needier states - the Red ones.
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Post by daisylu on Apr 22, 2020 10:43:27 GMT -5
I work in procurement, and our customer service rep from a very large national safety/PPE distributor told me in February that the federal government had wiped them out of safety supplies, PPE, TP, paper towels, & sanitizing cleaners. I have not heard of any stories of those supplies making it to any states, so I do not have a hard time believing that the federal government is intercepting shipments.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Apr 22, 2020 12:05:23 GMT -5
It is positively disgusting that feds seize supplies intended for states and institutions nationally and then tell states “you’re on your own”. Supposedly shipments being seized are not even being paid for. I can understand shipments going OUT of country, but why are they commandeering shipments within the country and shipments coming in from outside the country?
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 26, 2020 20:05:28 GMT -5
Grab, twist, and keep twisting until it comes off!
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 26, 2020 20:22:30 GMT -5
This would be called "courtship", apparently.
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Post by kadee79 on May 2, 2020 13:23:03 GMT -5
Think I read this morning that the Md. governor was activating the National Guard to make sure the feds didn't confiscate any PPE supplies the state had ordered. (no positive on the state & no link)
What the hell has this country come to?
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Post by dondub on May 2, 2020 13:35:52 GMT -5
Think I read this morning that the Md. governor was activating the National Guard to make sure the feds didn't confiscate any PPE supplies the state had ordered. (no positive on the state & no link) What the hell has this country come to? Trumpa Nostra
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2020 14:34:54 GMT -5
And this is what the country has become
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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2020 15:25:06 GMT -5
And this is what the country has become and I repeat.....the GOP is an anti-government insurgency.
the end result is anarchy, which is what the covid response has become.
I am revising my death toll estimate again this morning. 90k is now my low estimate. I have no high estimate, because there is none. this response is so uncoordinated that it might only stop when we have herd immunity.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2020 16:38:28 GMT -5
And this is what the country has become and I repeat.....the GOP is an anti-government insurgency.
the end result is anarchy, which is what the covid response has become.
I am revising my death toll estimate again this morning. 90k is now my low estimate. I have no high estimate, because there is none. this response is so uncoordinated that it might only stop when we have herd immunity.
I think it will be no less than 100k by the end of summer
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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2020 17:36:12 GMT -5
and I repeat.....the GOP is an anti-government insurgency.
the end result is anarchy, which is what the covid response has become.
I am revising my death toll estimate again this morning. 90k is now my low estimate. I have no high estimate, because there is none. this response is so uncoordinated that it might only stop when we have herd immunity.
I think it will be no less than 100k by the end of summer even if we have a linear declination to zero over the next two months, that is +60*2k*1/2 = 125,000 dead.
I think we are going to look back on this discussion and chide ourselves for our wild optimism.
Trump is absolutely mangling this response, and the only certainty is death.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2020 17:41:51 GMT -5
I think it will be no less than 100k by the end of summer even if we have a linear declination to zero over the next two months, that is +60*2k*1/2 = 125,000 dead.
I think we are going to look back on this discussion and chide ourselves for our wild optimism.
Trump is absolutely mangling this response, and the only certainty is death.
Well that’s depressing, worse than I thought, and one of our friends calls me Dr Gloom and Doom. Competence matters in a crisis, and incompetence kills people
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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2020 17:49:15 GMT -5
even if we have a linear declination to zero over the next two months, that is +60*2k*1/2 = 125,000 dead.
I think we are going to look back on this discussion and chide ourselves for our wild optimism.
Trump is absolutely mangling this response, and the only certainty is death.
Well that’s depressing, worse than I thought, and one of our friends calls me Dr Gloom and Doom. Competence matters in a crisis, and incompetence kills people well, let's hope we have a lineal declination to zero in a month, like that place in Seattle is predicting.
that would save 30k.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 17:52:30 GMT -5
pulmonarymd Yeah. We've seen and continue to see the results of that incompetence. After going for a drive around the city today and seeing that today isn't any different than any other sunny Saturday in May in the past, I think you should revise your guesstimate of deaths by August upward from that 100K. People were out as though none of this has happened, is happening, will continue to happen. I was concerned before. Now I'm just plain scared. Dammit. I really wanted to hit that 80th birthday in the fall. It isn't looking good.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2020 18:02:00 GMT -5
pulmonarymd Yeah. We've seen and continue to see the results of that incompetence. After going for a drive around the city today and seeing that today isn't any different than any other sunny Saturday in May in the past, I think you should revise your guesstimate of deaths by August upward from that 100K. People were out as though none of this has happened, is happening, will continue to happen. I was concerned before. Now I'm just plain scared. Dammit. I really wanted to hit that 80th birthday in the fall. It isn't looking good. just take extra care of yourself, knowing your government isn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2020 10:01:44 GMT -5
pulmonarymd Yeah. We've seen and continue to see the results of that incompetence. After going for a drive around the city today and seeing that today isn't any different than any other sunny Saturday in May in the past, I think you should revise your guesstimate of deaths by August upward from that 100K. People were out as though none of this has happened, is happening, will continue to happen. I was concerned before. Now I'm just plain scared. Dammit. I really wanted to hit that 80th birthday in the fall. It isn't looking good. just take extra care of yourself, knowing your government isn't. 3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 3, 2020 10:07:56 GMT -5
just take extra care of yourself, knowing your government isn't. 3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government. Will the 3.7 million peppers meet up with the 6 million Italian sausages?
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 3, 2020 10:11:10 GMT -5
So all the peepers are going to manage their own ventilators?
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Post by busymom on May 3, 2020 11:08:00 GMT -5
pulmonarymd Yeah. We've seen and continue to see the results of that incompetence. After going for a drive around the city today and seeing that today isn't any different than any other sunny Saturday in May in the past, I think you should revise your guesstimate of deaths by August upward from that 100K. People were out as though none of this has happened, is happening, will continue to happen. I was concerned before. Now I'm just plain scared. Dammit. I really wanted to hit that 80th birthday in the fall. It isn't looking good. Stay far, far away from the hardware stores. I cannot believe how many are shopping there. In the last week, I drove past a large nationwide chain where the parking lot was completely filled. I'm guessing either independent contractors are still working, or, it's where all the men are hanging out that currently don't have to work.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 3, 2020 13:47:12 GMT -5
just take extra care of yourself, knowing your government isn't. 3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 4, 2020 1:38:22 GMT -5
just take extra care of yourself, knowing your government isn't. 3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government. government has a purpose, and this crisis is kindof it.
if our government fails us in this crisis, we should rise up and replace it.
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Post by teen persuasion on May 4, 2020 7:38:20 GMT -5
3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government. government has a purpose, and this crisis is kindof it.
if our government fails us in this crisis, we should rise up and replace it.
Think we are beginning to see this, at least in areas where local govt levels are stepping up to fill the void. And creating new regional coalitions to increase their collective buying power and decrease divisive competition: e.g., new northeast coalition of states. Cuomo's daily press conference yesterday featured (remote) appearances by all 7 state governors involved.
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Post by oped on May 4, 2020 7:41:59 GMT -5
I think we’re probably at 100k now. I was reading yesterday that, were flu cases counted as current Covid... only confirmed positive... numbers would be like 3-15k annually. When algorithms are applied post infection to excessive deaths, etc... I’m guessing we are already over 100k...
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 8:25:17 GMT -5
3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government. Will the 3.7 million peppers meet up with the 6 million Italian sausages? Good one ! I didn't see it as I never look back to what the auto correct does with my words. It can be quite funny at times.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 8:28:34 GMT -5
3.7 million peppers have been ready for this. We never believed in a nanny government. government has a purpose, and this crisis is kindof it.
if our government fails us in this crisis, we should rise up and replace it.
True, but the very same reason that those people expect to be taken care of, is the same reason they will never rise up and replace our government. Both require a lot of effort, caring for oneselves, or rising up.
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