Kemp/Ga....oh crap!

[djAdvocate]

Apr 22, 2020 16:25:20 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Apr 22, 2020 16:21:28 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

I thought I said "any business"- in other words, case by case.

how is that not a boycott?

I will boycott Ruth Chris's due to the caper they pulled...never, ever eat there again.
I won't boycott my beautician, I just won't go until it is safer for all concerned...and I'll still take precautions then.  So not boycotting, just delaying partaking of that service.

I am still not seeing the distinction, but I am willing to admit that might be my problem.

[billisonboard]

Apr 22, 2020 16:21:28 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 22, 2020 15:33:31 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

In this case, the way that "consumers" can and will protect themselves is to not consume any of a given service from any source. An organized boycott of a specific business only has meaning if those who are boycotting business "X" patronize business "Y" instead. It does make sense to work to help people stay strong against the temptation to use services opened up too early. But that is not a boycott.

I thought I said "any business"- in other words, case by case.

how is that not a boycott?

Yes, you are proposing organizing a case by case boycott of the businesses which are opening. I see simply a need for people to stay home, no organizing necessary. 

[steff]

   He just threw Georgia Gov'n Kemp under the bus by saying he told him it was "too soon" to open up the businesses that are in GA's phase 1.  

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Apr 22, 2020 16:23:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 22, 2020 16:16:59 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

EXACTLY!!!!!

and this is overlooking the moral cost of opening and having your customers and employees get sick because of it.

fixed

[kadee79]

Apr 22, 2020 17:51:37 GMT -5 steff said:

   He just threw Georgia Gov'n Kemp under the bus by saying he told him it was "too soon" to open up the businesses that are in GA's phase 1.  

He sure did....this is the whole snippet....

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he told Georgia Governor Brian Kemp he disagreed with his plan to reopen certain businesses this month, saying it was too soon for businesses like spas, beauty salons and tattoo parlors to reopen.


"It's just too soon. I think it's too soon," Trump said at the White House coronavirus news briefing. "They can wait a little bit longer, just a little bit - not much. Because safety has to predominate. We have to have that.

"So I told the governor very simply that I disagree with his decision but he has to do what he thinks is right."

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-says-he-told-georgia-governor-he-disagrees-with-reopening-decision/ar-BB133th7?li=BBnb7Kz

Now....will Kemp back off?  He's catching it from all directions!

[thyme4change]

Trump is a mess.

[steff]

Apr 22, 2020 19:21:10 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Apr 22, 2020 17:51:37 GMT -5 steff said:

   He just threw Georgia Gov'n Kemp under the bus by saying he told him it was "too soon" to open up the businesses that are in GA's phase 1.  

He sure did....this is the whole snippet....

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he told Georgia Governor Brian Kemp he disagreed with his plan to reopen certain businesses this month, saying it was too soon for businesses like spas, beauty salons and tattoo parlors to reopen.


"It's just too soon. I think it's too soon," Trump said at the White House coronavirus news briefing. "They can wait a little bit longer, just a little bit - not much. Because safety has to predominate. We have to have that.

"So I told the governor very simply that I disagree with his decision but he has to do what he thinks is right."

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-says-he-told-georgia-governor-he-disagrees-with-reopening-decision/ar-BB133th7?li=BBnb7Kz

Now....will Kemp back off?  He's catching it from all directions!

Only reason trump did it was so he can have plausible deniability when our death count starts to skyrocket.  He's telling states to open, but not yet, but he's gonna sue Democrat gov'ners for not opening up right now. 

There's nothing logical or sensible going on at all in the Republican party from top to bottom.

[busymom]

He's doing his normal "CYA" thing.  Remember, nothing is EVER his fault.  

[countrygirl2]

Yep after encouraging that sort of thing. I sat here and listened to him throwing him under the bus! It would be expected.

That's why the repubs don't want him up there talking that much. He digs a hole for himself everytime, idiot.

[djAdvocate]

he'll never admit that he can't win this one.

but he can't.

[countrygirl2]

I listened to Anderson Cooper and the Las Vegas mayor, that was a shocker, damn these people get up there and say the dumbest things.


Had enough, turned over to dish scapes watching birds, flowers, greenery on an island, now flipped to Australia and watching it. Very soothing and cute.

[steff]

Everything Georgia

@gafollowers

President Donald Trump called Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp last night and expressed support and praise for his move to reopen businesses starting Friday.

1:20 PM · Apr 22, 2020·TweetDeck

That was a wham bam thank you dumbass! love affair now wasn't it? 

[dondub]

A premature ejaculation then back in the limo.

[djAdvocate]

Apr 22, 2020 20:06:21 GMT -5 dondub said:

A premature ejaculation then back in the limo.

query: is this fucking up his rather extensive golfing schedule?

[Gardening Grandma]

Apr 22, 2020 19:47:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he'll never admit that he can't win this one.

but he can't.

Whether he admits it or not, it will be obvious to anyone with an iq higher than an avocado

[dondub]

Apr 22, 2020 20:09:52 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 22, 2020 20:06:21 GMT -5 dondub said:

A premature ejaculation then back in the limo.

query: is this fucking up his rather extensive golfing schedule?

Do you mean is this fucking up his golf grifting scam with overcharging for golf carts, double charging for rooms at his resorts for his security detail, and not feeding his ‘cheats at golf’ pathology while no one from the right that bitched about Obama’s golf has said word one? YES

[countrygirl2]

I still think he has dementia or alzheimers. And he certainly does not know truth from fiction. Dangerous, dangerous "qualities" to have in a "leader" and I say that tongue in cheek. As he is not a leader.

What worries me if he gets us into a conflict, he is losing big time right now and he would see that as a way to bring up his numbers. Problem is he would likely interfere and hand us over to Russia or china without firing a shot. Noone would know what orders to listen too. If he does that we are fu***d.


A mighty nation lost by a twit on a tweet and it could happen.  I'm worried, November can't come soon enough. Then if he loses, it will be hell to pay from Nov to January. God help us. And if he doesn't will be even worse.

[kadee79]

Despite the governor’s decision to lift some restrictions on businesses, the right to receive unemployment benefits for most jobless Georgians has not changed, according to the state Department of Labor.



However, the move did change the calculation for employers – and that could put some workers in a tough spot, forced to choose between their sense of safety and their need for a paycheck.

On Monday, Gov. Brian Kemp made the controversial decision to allow some businesses to restart operations Friday, including barbershops, hair and nail salons, tattoo parlors, massage parlors, bowling alleys and fitness centers.

Under the revised policy, restaurants, theaters and private social clubs will be allowed to open next week.

As of mid-day Wednesday, an official tally showed that 836 Georgians had died from the coronavirus and more than 20,000 had been diagnosed with COVID-19.


Some business owners are worried that opening is still dangerous, even when taking precautions. And workers whose employer stays closed still will be eligible for unemployment, said Kersha Cartwright, spokeswoman for the Department of Labor.

“It is not our decision whether or not a business reopens,” she said. “We will just take care of employees that are laid off or that have those hours reduced.”

www.ajc.com/business/gov-brian-kemp-new-rules-put-some-jobless-georgians-bind/PodNQ1Q89t4ZDeyqjL1OQK/

In other words....if the business you work for reopens...you either report for work & take a chance of getting sick & dying or stay home with no income cause you will no longer be eligible for unemployment.

[dondub]

Apr 22, 2020 20:36:12 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I still think he has dementia or alzheimers. And he certainly does not know truth from fiction. Dangerous, dangerous "qualities" to have in a "leader" and I say that tongue in cheek. As he is not a leader.

What worries me if he gets us into a conflict, he is losing big time right now and he would see that as a way to bring up his numbers. Problem is he would likely interfere and hand us over to Russia or china without firing a shot. Noone would know what orders to listen too. If he does that we are fu***d.


A mighty nation lost by a twit on a tweet and it could happen.  I'm worried, November can't come soon enough. Then if he loses, it will be hell to pay from Nov to January. God help us. And if he doesn't will be even worse.

To riff off of this and something from yesterday:

The twit on a tweet is a twat!

[Deleted]

Yesterday he thought it was too soon, but on Tuesday he and Pence talked with the governor and gave him a big thumbs up, praise, support for opening up tomorrow. Oy.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Apr 22, 2020 20:42:32 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Despite the governor’s decision to lift some restrictions on businesses, the right to receive unemployment benefits for most jobless Georgians has not changed, according to the state Department of Labor.



However, the move did change the calculation for employers – and that could put some workers in a tough spot, forced to choose between their sense of safety and their need for a paycheck.

On Monday, Gov. Brian Kemp made the controversial decision to allow some businesses to restart operations Friday, including barbershops, hair and nail salons, tattoo parlors, massage parlors, bowling alleys and fitness centers.

Under the revised policy, restaurants, theaters and private social clubs will be allowed to open next week.

As of mid-day Wednesday, an official tally showed that 836 Georgians had died from the coronavirus and more than 20,000 had been diagnosed with COVID-19.


Some business owners are worried that opening is still dangerous, even when taking precautions. And workers whose employer stays closed still will be eligible for unemployment, said Kersha Cartwright, spokeswoman for the Department of Labor.

“It is not our decision whether or not a business reopens,” she said. “We will just take care of employees that are laid off or that have those hours reduced.”

www.ajc.com/business/gov-brian-kemp-new-rules-put-some-jobless-georgians-bind/PodNQ1Q89t4ZDeyqjL1OQK/

In other words....if the business you work for reopens...you either report for work & take a chance of getting sick & dying or stay home with no income cause you will no longer be eligible for unemployment.

Pretty sure that is the end goal.  UE has never been about actually helping people.   It's another revenue stream for the states.  If people are applying and actually getting it then that is not money that can be laundered elsewhere.

[thyme4change]

Apr 22, 2020 19:47:29 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I listened to Anderson Cooper and the Las Vegas mayor, that was a shocker, damn these people get up there and say the dumbest things.


Had enough, turned over to dish scapes watching birds, flowers, greenery on an island, now flipped to Australia and watching it. Very soothing and cute.

She was a fucking trainwreck.

Why did she think she could go on national television and tackle that subject against a seasoned professional?

Practically comical. Like an SNLcold open skit.

[countrygirl2]

Anderson was like in disbelief, he kept asking her.  I'm sure he was really going for it, it was totally unbelievable.

[djAdvocate]

Apr 22, 2020 20:11:10 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Apr 22, 2020 19:47:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he'll never admit that he can't win this one.

but he can't.

Whether he admits it or not, it will be obvious to anyone with an iq higher than an avocado

the virus doesn't care what he thinks, and is doing what viruses do best.

and he is helping.

[kadee79]

Several local shop owners have said they are not opening any time soon cause they can't get the PPE to protect their employees or customers.
Going to be interesting to see what actually happens here tomorrow.

AND to top things off in my county, we were hit by a tornado today.  Did some damage at the local hospital that was supposed to restart opening for several different types of procedures….not sure what will happen now.  Lots of trees down, our power was out for 5 hrs., several houses destroyed...haven't heard of any deaths in our county...but possible.
My DH saw the tornado, but he didn't know what he was seeing...it was about 5-6 mi. to our west....so we had super strong winds here at our house.

[NastyWoman]

Apr 23, 2020 15:25:12 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Apr 22, 2020 19:47:29 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I listened to Anderson Cooper and the Las Vegas mayor, that was a shocker, damn these people get up there and say the dumbest things.


Had enough, turned over to dish scapes watching birds, flowers, greenery on an island, now flipped to Australia and watching it. Very soothing and cute.

She was a fucking trainwreck.

Why did she think she could go on national television and tackle that subject against a seasoned professional?

Practically comical. Like an SNLcold open skit.

With apologies to the people of Nevada but I believe the new slogan for LV needs to become If you go fo Vegas, you will stay in Vegas!