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Post by TheHaitian on Apr 5, 2020 20:41:57 GMT -5
are we supposed to feel bad for them once the shit hit the fan there too?
Just asking because I am running out of fuck’s to give.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 5, 2020 20:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 5, 2020 20:50:50 GMT -5
I have a bad feeling that unless enough of her base gets wiped out that Iowa's Governor Reynolds will get reelected.
Especially in rural areas Trump is king.
There are allegedly two in our country at the moment. I don't know if that has to do with how far apart communities are or individual mayors.
Ours isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either but we've at least been moving faster than the governor.
My concern is we're sister cities with Omaha. Douglass county has 175 cases.
With so many businesses being granted "essential" status it's impossible to limit travel between us. It's only a matter of time before we have that many.
We may already have. Testing is still only limited to the very I'll. So knows how many milder cases are walking around.
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Post by chiver78 on Apr 5, 2020 20:51:16 GMT -5
I'll feel badly for those in those states that have tried to isolate themselves in the face of their neighbors rallying for Darwin Awards. there are some first class idiots out there that are going to keep this spreading.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 20:59:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not sure I see what the huge difference is between what we're doing in our state with the stay at home order and the states around us with no order. The schools, bars and restaurants are still closed in all of those other states. Only "essential businesses" are to run in our state, but practically all of them are. Heck, Ex 2.0 work for a furniture manufacturer. Essential. Sheet music publisher? Essential. Electronics? Essential. Plastics/composites? Essential. There are strip mall stores closed and theaters, but for the most part most people are still working...albeit there is a lot of WFH for those that can do it.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 6, 2020 8:48:37 GMT -5
How is it my fault that Gov. Kim Reynolds will not issue a stay in place order and says Dr. Fauci doesn't understand?
I'm calling her office every day to tell her she is an idiot. No, I don't use that word, but that's the message.
She is on all the national news now because of what she said about Dr. Fauci.
The % of deaths increased quite a bit over the weekend.
The worst part is her "metrics" are based on something her team came up with. The head of her team is an attorney and I can't find where she has anything in her background in public health or any of the sciences. The governor has no background in science or public health. She's just an idiot.
She's also divided the state in to 7 areas. Her plan is to issue stay at home orders by area if they meet her metrics. One of the metrics is the % of people over 65 who has positive tests. Her data is totally skewed by the lack of testing.
It's next to impossible to get a test unless you are being admitted to the hospital.
Her own board of health is requesting a stay in place order as is the state medical society.
She holds her press conferences and says the same crazy stuff every time. She says she can't make people stay home.
Think my county is up to 11 confirmed cases (that does not include my nephew who was never tested) and one death.
I would bet there are a 1000 people in this county and those who work or shop here from Wisconsin and Illinois who have COVID-19.
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Post by gs11rmb on Apr 6, 2020 9:05:05 GMT -5
Well at least she's more consistent than Georgia's Governor. Last week he finally issued a shelter-in-place order after 'discovering in the last 24 hours' that COVID-19 can be transmitted by people not exhibiting symptoms. Both the state capitol and the governor's mansion are about 6 miles from the CDC and just last month he was filmed there standing behind Trump. So either he's dumb as a rock or lying to cover up why he hadn't ordered people to shelter-in-place sooner. Then just this weekend he lifted the order for Georgia's beaches despite objections from coastal mayors.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 9:16:15 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that people think there's much difference between places that have an official "stay at home" order and those who don't. We don't have one (Iowa) and schools are closed, restaurants are closed, playgrounds are closed, pretty much everything is closed. Stores are closing earlier, allowing fewer types of people in them, and people are working from home where they can.
Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 9:18:11 GMT -5
How is it my fault that Gov. Kim Reynolds will not issue a stay in place order and says Dr. Fauci doesn't understand? I'm calling her office every day to tell her she is an idiot. No, I don't use that word, but that's the message. She is on all the national news now because of what she said about Dr. Fauci. The % of deaths increased quite a bit over the weekend. The worst part is her "metrics" are based on something her team came up with. The head of her team is an attorney and I can't find where she has anything in her background in public health or any of the sciences. The governor has no background in science or public health. She's just an idiot. She's also divided the state in to 7 areas. Her plan is to issue stay at home orders by area if they meet her metrics. One of the metrics is the % of people over 65 who has positive tests. Her data is totally skewed by the lack of testing. It's next to impossible to get a test unless you are being admitted to the hospital.Her own board of health is requesting a stay in place order as is the state medical society. She holds her press conferences and says the same crazy stuff every time. She says she can't make people stay home. Think my county is up to 11 confirmed cases (that does not include my nephew who was never tested) and one death. I would bet there are a 1000 people in this county and those who work or shop here from Wisconsin and Illinois who have COVID-19. Not sure which part of the state you're in...but in central Iowa I know multiple people who have been tested based on feeling sick (flu-like symptoms) and working retail essentially (under the premise they are exposed to a lot of people and more likely to have gotten it).
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 6, 2020 9:27:26 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that people think there's much difference between places that have an official "stay at home" order and those who don't. We don't have one (Iowa) and schools are closed, restaurants are closed, playgrounds are closed, pretty much everything is closed. Stores are closing earlier, allowing fewer types of people in them, and people are working from home where they can. Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with. I know right. Even looking at states with stay at home orders there are more holes in the policy than Swiss Cheese. It seems incredibly easy to be able to be granted "essential" status as a business. Large amounts of people are still traveling between Omaha and CB. I am getting tired of the posts from people bitching about how many cars they see on the road and that we need to "Stay the F home", did it ever occur to you that those of us on the roads work for "essential" employers? Maybe take it up with your elected officials about how easy it seems to be to granted "essential" status?
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Post by Blonde Granny on Apr 6, 2020 9:29:08 GMT -5
Arkansas its yesterday:
As of April 5, there are now 853 confirmed cases of COVID-19 across the state of Arkansas, with 16 deaths attributed to the virus.
The majority of the cases are in the center of the state close to Little Rock.
FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. — There are now 853 COVID-19 cases in Arkansas, according to a Sunday afternoon update from the Department of Health.
More than 11,000 people have been tested in the state. Of the 853 who have been sickened, 16 have died as of Sunday. Ninety-seven people have recovered.
Sixty-seven people in Arkansas are currently hospitalized with the virus and 27 people are on ventilators.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 9:38:43 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that people think there's much difference between places that have an official "stay at home" order and those who don't. We don't have one (Iowa) and schools are closed, restaurants are closed, playgrounds are closed, pretty much everything is closed. Stores are closing earlier, allowing fewer types of people in them, and people are working from home where they can. Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with. I know right. Even looking at states with stay at home orders there are more holes in the policy than Swiss Cheese. It seems incredibly easy to be able to be granted "essential" status as a business. Large amounts of people are still traveling between Omaha and CB. I am getting tired of the posts from people bitching about how many cars they see on the road and that we need to "Stay the F home", did it ever occur to you that those of us on the roads work for "essential" employers? Maybe take it up with your elected officials about how easy it seems to be to granted "essential" status? I think there are really 2 things here. 1. There are tons of loopholes for essential employees and the ease of getting labeled essential. For example...my company is "essential" and rightfully so....but that doesn't mean every employee there is essential right now. And many of the ones who are essential, it isn't essential that they be out as opposed to working from home. My company is doing a great job of letting people work from home where they can and keeping the in-office crew to a skeleton crew. 2. There are just a lot of areas that are "essential" if you want the country to keep functioning. With the way big box retail has shifted in the past 10 years, they almost all have a grocery element. Iowa in particular is huge in financial services, you probably don't want to shut that down. It becomes pretty difficult to really say "this industry is not essential, just shut down". It's almost like small boutique things can shut down, but big industries have made themselves essential because that's what makes them into big industries.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 6, 2020 9:43:28 GMT -5
Omaha is a lot of agriculture which is why a lot of businesses are considered "essential".
Which I get, but then that still leaves large numbers of people traveling in Nebraska and then between Nebraska and Iowa. So I am not sure what a "stay at home" order would really do that either state is not already doing. You'd have to order all the "essential" businesses outside of grocery stores and hospitals to close their doors too if you really wanted to make a huge impact and we all know that is not going to happen. That hasn't happened in states with stay at home orders either.
People will continue to be stupid. A ticket is not going to stop them from exercising their God given rights to go wherever they please.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 6, 2020 10:00:10 GMT -5
Omaha is a lot of agriculture which is why a lot of businesses are considered "essential". Which I get, but then that still leaves large numbers of people traveling in Nebraska and then between Nebraska and Iowa. So I am not sure what a "stay at home" order would really do that either state is not already doing. You'd have to order all the "essential" businesses outside of grocery stores and hospitals to close their doors too if you really wanted to make a huge impact and we all know that is not going to happen. That hasn't happened in states with stay at home orders either. And we got enough Trumpsters in either city that people will continue to be stupid. A ticket is not going to stop them from exercising their God given rights to go wherever they please. Don’t think that all those defying stay at home are Trumpsters, at least in NY. Lots of NYers are just blowing off repeated attempts to keep them the 6’ distance. Stupid isn’t the same as Trumpsters
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 6, 2020 10:08:23 GMT -5
Omaha is a lot of agriculture which is why a lot of businesses are considered "essential". Which I get, but then that still leaves large numbers of people traveling in Nebraska and then between Nebraska and Iowa. So I am not sure what a "stay at home" order would really do that either state is not already doing. You'd have to order all the "essential" businesses outside of grocery stores and hospitals to close their doors too if you really wanted to make a huge impact and we all know that is not going to happen. That hasn't happened in states with stay at home orders either. And we got enough Trumpsters in either city that people will continue to be stupid. A ticket is not going to stop them from exercising their God given rights to go wherever they please. Don’t think that all those defying stay at home are Trumpsters, at least in NY. Lots of NYers are just blowing off repeated attempts to keep them the 6’ distance. Stupid isn’t the same as TrumpstersThat is true in the same way as all fruit isn't apples, but all apples are fruit though
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 10:24:46 GMT -5
Trumpers are dumb, and people who say Trumpers are dumb are even dumber. Not surprising since most of the country is dumber than dirt. Now that this is settled, can people please take their political drivel to the Politics board where it belongs?
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Post by sesfw on Apr 6, 2020 10:38:42 GMT -5
Trumpers are dumb, and people who say Trumpers are dumb are even dumber. Not surprising since most of the country is dumber than dirt. Now that this is settled, can people please take their political drivel to the Politics board where it belongs?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 10:41:45 GMT -5
Someone suggested on FB this morning that the local high school have traditional graduation since "all this hiding in the house is stupid since the virus isn't here."
I pointed out it's called a pandemic for a reason and we should try to keep it out by not have massive gatherings where one person can spread it to the whole freaking town. And, my usual suggestion to turn off the Faux news and learn what's really going on...
I heard a suggestion yesterday that the president's new rally-pressers should not be aired on TV unless what he's spewing is accurate/truthful information because all the lies of "opening up the country" and "not wearing masks" is making things worse. Totally agree. If we can't get rid of him, silence him.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 6, 2020 10:43:31 GMT -5
Someone suggested on FB this morning that the local high school have traditional graduation since "all this hiding in the house is stupid since the virus isn't here." I pointed out it's called a pandemic for a reason and we should try to keep it out by not have massive gatherings where one person can spread it to the whole freaking town. And, my usual suggestion to turn off the Faux news and learn what's really going on... I heard a suggestion yesterday that the president's new rally-pressers should not be aired on TV unless what he's spewing is accurate/truthful information because all the lies of "opening up the country" and "not wearing masks" is making things worse. Totally agree. If we can't get rid of him, silence him. I get it, and I do agree, but you're not going to have many friends in your new town at this rate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 10:45:12 GMT -5
Someone suggested on FB this morning that the local high school have traditional graduation since "all this hiding in the house is stupid since the virus isn't here." I pointed out it's called a pandemic for a reason and we should try to keep it out by not have massive gatherings where one person can spread it to the whole freaking town. And, my usual suggestion to turn off the Faux news and learn what's really going on... I heard a suggestion yesterday that the president's new rally-pressers should not be aired on TV unless what he's spewing is accurate/truthful information because all the lies of "opening up the country" and "not wearing masks" is making things worse. Totally agree. If we can't get rid of him, silence him. I get it, and I do agree, but you're not going to have many friends in your new town at this rate. Thanks to a past BF who threatened my life and stalked me online, I don't post on FB with my real name.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 6, 2020 10:47:49 GMT -5
I get it, and I do agree, but you're not going to have many friends in your new town at this rate. Thanks to a past BF who threatened my life and stalked me online, I don't post on FB with my real name. Smart girl, but you're new to the local Facebook crowd -- they'll figure you out.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 6, 2020 11:33:09 GMT -5
Governor closed a few more categories of business, but enough people haven't died yet to have a stay in place order.
Made my phone call and asked if she wants me to call when I die since she prefers they be over 65.
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Post by TheHaitian on Apr 6, 2020 11:36:25 GMT -5
And it is not a matter of politics but making sure everyone understand the gravity of the situation.
Great you read the stay home order and can see the difference, but most people will not seize the gravity until they are told by the top honcho how bad it is.
Same with bad snow storm: the governor issue a state of emergency; people understand to stay home (except for the few idiots and essential workers).
But if you are sending mid messages like Church gatherings are ok (Florida), open beaches (GA) and saying that Fuci is wrong and your people are better; the people that believe you will take unnecessary risk that can cost them their lives.
And if you are essential, the messages of people telling others to stay home is not addressed to you... so don’t be bothered by it. That is like me saying “black lives matter” and someone else saying : blue lives matter too. That was not the point of the conversation.
People are programmed a certain way and they take their cues based a certain order: if it was that bad in my area our governor would have done this... must be only a BIG CITY FOLkS problem; we good.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Apr 6, 2020 11:42:43 GMT -5
My state is under stay-at-home order...guess what, my democratic governor is considering busses to/from NYfuckingC to be essential. As of yesterdays reports (not sure how current they are, though) 85% of our cases are in one city and that city is a magnet for the bus runs.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 11:42:44 GMT -5
And it is not a matter of politics but making sure everyone understand the gravity of the situation. Great you read the stay home order and can see the difference, but most people will not seize the gravity until they are told by the top honcho how bad it is. Same with bad snow storm: the governor issue a state of emergency; people understand to stay home (except for the few idiots and essential workers). But if you are sending mid messages like Church gatherings are ok (Florida), open beaches (GA) and saying that Fuci is wrong and your people are better; the people that believe you will take unnecessary risk that can cost them their lives. And if you are essential, the messages of people telling others to stay home is not addressed to you... so don’t be bothered by it. That is like me saying “black lives matter” and someone else saying : blue lives matter too. That was not the point of the conversation. People are programmed a certain way and they take their cues based a certain order: if it was that bad in my area our governor would have done this... must be only a BIG CITY FOLkS problem; we good. Except in this case...no, they don't. People are still out and about, even with stay-at-home orders. In many cases they are out and about because the stay at home orders basically exempt anything you want to do. All the work for keeping people at home or from gathering is happening OUTSIDE of the stay at home orders. It's akin to an article a while back that said "X number of countries don't have laws outlawing slavery" and then it was a bunch of developed countries that have a ton of other laws that would make the practicality of slavery clearly illegal. The law itself that says "slavery is technically illegal now" is meaningless...the measures in place already prevented it to the extent it can be prevented...making it formal doesn't do anything.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 6, 2020 12:00:14 GMT -5
Same with bad snow storm: the governor issue a state of emergency; people understand to stay home (except for the few idiots and essential workers).
Clearly you have never lived in Nebraska or Iowa. People DO NOT stay home and not only that no employer gives a shit, they expect you in even if you have to leave at 3 am to get there. Not a whole lot different from right now to be honest given how many employers here have managed to get "essential" status AND expect you to be on site (our office people aren't here but that's like 15 out of the 100 people that work here). There are actually less cars on the road now than are usually out during winter weather. Last Friday was the first time I've driven in icy conditions and had to worry more about hitting a pole than another human being/car.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Apr 6, 2020 12:05:43 GMT -5
And it is not a matter of politics but making sure everyone understand the gravity of the situation. Great you read the stay home order and can see the difference, but most people will not seize the gravity until they are told by the top honcho how bad it is. Same with bad snow storm: the governor issue a state of emergency; people understand to stay home (except for the few idiots and essential workers). But if you are sending mid messages like Church gatherings are ok (Florida), open beaches (GA) and saying that Fuci is wrong and your people are better; the people that believe you will take unnecessary risk that can cost them their lives. And if you are essential, the messages of people telling others to stay home is not addressed to you... so don’t be bothered by it. That is like me saying “black lives matter” and someone else saying : blue lives matter too. That was not the point of the conversation. People are programmed a certain way and they take their cues based a certain order: if it was that bad in my area our governor would have done this... must be only a BIG CITY FOLkS problem; we good. most people will not seize the gravity until they are told by the top honcho how bad it is. This is my neighbor. She was not taking it seriously, she implied I was over reacting. Until the Gov issued the SAH order.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 6, 2020 12:49:45 GMT -5
... Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with. I told my children they shouldn't do illegal drugs nor, when they were teenagers, have casual sex. Don't know it was worth the effort but for some reason it seemed like the right thing to do.
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 6, 2020 13:00:56 GMT -5
... Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with. I told my children they shouldn't do illegal drugs nor, when they were teenagers, have casual sex. Don't know it was worth the effort but for some reason it seemed like the right thing to do. And governments have told people they should avoid going out unless they have to. The same governments who haven't issued "orders". Do you think your kids would have been more likely to listen to you if you'd said "this is an official order not to do illegal drugs" vs whatever language you actually gave them? Or more comparatively to the current situation "Don't do illegal drugs...this is an official order than you must not do illegal drugs...unless you're depressed, or at a party, or bored, or your friends are doing it, or it's the weekend, or unless you think you have a good reason to...but other than that, absolutely NO illegal drugs".
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Post by justme on Apr 6, 2020 13:01:30 GMT -5
I think it's interesting that people think there's much difference between places that have an official "stay at home" order and those who don't. We don't have one (Iowa) and schools are closed, restaurants are closed, playgrounds are closed, pretty much everything is closed. Stores are closing earlier, allowing fewer types of people in them, and people are working from home where they can. Honestly, I'm not sure what a "stay at home" official order would do given how many things are then exempt from the order to begin with. I'm sure it varies by states, but for example in Florida it finally shut down all the beaches. The few times I've been out it seems that traffic wend down when my county went stay at home and then a little less once it was state wide.
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