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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 21:32:08 GMT -5
Hubs and I were wondering when this would start happening. It's been happening overseas for a while now. I don't think anyone who can afford food will starve in the US, but I do think choices may become really limited when one shops. We may also find ourselves only being able to shop online or have things delivered.
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Post by MN-Investor on Apr 8, 2020 10:31:57 GMT -5
I went to Target first thing this morning and they had the toilet paper I prefer. Yay! It was a 30-pack of mega rolls, so a bit much for a single person. It will last me until fall. I also bought a dozen eggs. I didn't pay any attention to what they cost, so I just looked at my receipt now - 49¢! Oh my!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 11:33:39 GMT -5
You paid $0.49 for a dozen eggs?
Damn, that would be like going back to 1960. I can't remember anytime I have seen eggs under $2 a dozen.
Here there are signs there is a shortage and an apology for the price. I didn't look at the price because I didn't buy any, but now I am curious.
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Post by MN-Investor on Apr 8, 2020 11:38:27 GMT -5
I couldn't find anything on my Target app to indicate such a low price. In fact, every appearance of a carton of eggs was paired with a message that, because of the high demand for the product, they may not be available. Since the item was scanned by the clerk, I assume that that was the price assigned by Target to that item. Bizarre.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Apr 8, 2020 11:48:48 GMT -5
See, the egg shortage confuses me. It's Easter. People normally buy more eggs to dye. So doesn't the egg industry have timelines to raise more chickens for more egg production just before Easter?
I paid for expensive eggs, because DH is fussy about them. And I wanted white eggshells because they dye better. And I didn't want the white eggs with the stamp EB on them (Eggland's Best) because the dyes don't cover that. So tonight I hardboil 2 dozen eggs. On Friday we dye them. And fairly soon after that we start eating them.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 8, 2020 11:49:23 GMT -5
Usually eggs are plentiful and dirt cheap leading up to Easter. I ordered mine at 59 cents/ dozen large from Meijer.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Apr 8, 2020 12:00:00 GMT -5
Exactly.
I paid over $3 a dozen for DH's vegan fed/organic/free range/whatever the hell it is. They're paying more to raise chickens that way and it's reflected in the price of eggs. But DH is the one who usually ends up eating the eggs at Easter time so we get the eggs that he's willing to eat.
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 8, 2020 12:14:36 GMT -5
We better be prepared for higher prices for a lot of (fresh) food items as they will be coming:
"Thousands of acres of fruits and vegetables grown in Florida are being plowed over or left to rot because farmers can’t sell to restaurants, theme parks or schools nationwide that have closed because of the coronavirus.
Other states are having the same issues — agriculture officials say leafy greens in California are being hit especially hard, and dairy farmers in Vermont and Wisconsin say they have had to a surplus of milk intended for restaurants. …" www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-claims-unexpected-victim-florida-143106764.html
Anyone who thinks this won't have an effect on grocery store prices is rather naïve IMO
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 12:19:04 GMT -5
We better be prepared for higher prices for a lot of (fresh) food items as they will be coming:
"Thousands of acres of fruits and vegetables grown in Florida are being plowed over or left to rot because farmers can’t sell to restaurants, theme parks or schools nationwide that have closed because of the coronavirus.
Other states are having the same issues — agriculture officials say leafy greens in California are being hit especially hard, and dairy farmers in Vermont and Wisconsin say they have had to a surplus of milk intended for restaurants. …" www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-claims-unexpected-victim-florida-143106764.html
Anyone who thinks this won't have an effect on grocery store prices is rather naïve IMO
The dairies in Central CA are also dumping milk right now due to a glut in the market. My uncle owns a large dairy and told my mom the other day that he and others were dumping it. It sucks, because people would love to buy raw milk and can't because it's illegal to sell direct to consumers. Same for cuts of meat. I saw ID changed their law recently to allow for cuts of meat to be sold direct. They should do the same for milk. Fresh fruits and veg will become harder to find in stores and more expensive because even before the pandemic Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration has made it harder for the agricultural industry to find workers.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 8, 2020 12:40:19 GMT -5
We better be prepared for higher prices for a lot of (fresh) food items as they will be coming:
"Thousands of acres of fruits and vegetables grown in Florida are being plowed over or left to rot because farmers can’t sell to restaurants, theme parks or schools nationwide that have closed because of the coronavirus.
Other states are having the same issues — agriculture officials say leafy greens in California are being hit especially hard, and dairy farmers in Vermont and Wisconsin say they have had to a surplus of milk intended for restaurants. …" www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-claims-unexpected-victim-florida-143106764.html
Anyone who thinks this won't have an effect on grocery store prices is rather naïve IMO
Okay, folks aren’t eating in restaurants, but they ARE eating at home and therefore buying more at the grocery store. Why not just sell to grocery stores (who seem to be having trouble staying stocked) rather than /plow under?
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 8, 2020 12:43:04 GMT -5
I went to Target first thing this morning and they had the toilet paper I prefer. Yay! It was a 30-pack of mega rolls, so a bit much for a single person. It will last me until fall. I also bought a dozen eggs. I didn't pay any attention to what they cost, so I just looked at my receipt now - 49¢! Oh my! Each?
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 8, 2020 13:08:54 GMT -5
Don’t want to go to store since husband is very high risk. I was able to get a delivery time for today last week. My shopper is in store now, lots of substitutes, mostly adding organic. I ordered a 16 oz pkg of strawberries, the organic strawberry pkg is $18 !!!! Oh my that’s expensive!!!!
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Post by lynnerself on Apr 8, 2020 14:15:24 GMT -5
Usually eggs are plentiful and dirt cheap leading up to Easter. I ordered mine at 59 cents/ dozen large from Meijer. Generally even cheaper after Easter as production has been ramped up , but demand is down.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 8, 2020 14:35:46 GMT -5
We get eggs from friends who have chickens and while we don’t pay the going rate for even regular supermarket eggs, they are not cheap. These eggs we tend to use for breakfast. If I am cooking, I’ll use supermarket eggs where you don’t actually taste them.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 8, 2020 15:25:01 GMT -5
We better be prepared for higher prices for a lot of (fresh) food items as they will be coming:
"Thousands of acres of fruits and vegetables grown in Florida are being plowed over or left to rot because farmers can’t sell to restaurants, theme parks or schools nationwide that have closed because of the coronavirus.
Other states are having the same issues — agriculture officials say leafy greens in California are being hit especially hard, and dairy farmers in Vermont and Wisconsin say they have had to a surplus of milk intended for restaurants. …" www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-claims-unexpected-victim-florida-143106764.html
Anyone who thinks this won't have an effect on grocery store prices is rather naïve IMO
Okay, folks aren’t eating in restaurants, but they ARE eating at home and therefore buying more at the grocery store. Why not just sell to grocery stores (who seem to be having trouble staying stocked) rather than /plow under? Or create drive by CSAs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 15:54:05 GMT -5
I got an email from Ruby Tuesdays that they are selling "groceries" now. It is really their surplus . . . large boxes of burgers, steaks, quesadilla dip, etc.
I have no idea of how much it is, but this type of food is out there. My neighbor bought a "Clean out the pantry" bag from one of her favorite restaurants that was closing down for awhile. She was offering some of the surplus milk, which has a short life, on FB for free to someone in need.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Apr 8, 2020 16:10:48 GMT -5
Several restaurants around here are selling stuff. They can get it and the distributors are slow or unwilling to pivot to selling to stores.
If I hadn't lucked into chicken breasts at the store Sunday, they were going to be my next option.
Texas Roadhouse was selling steaks the other day. They are doing family packs and a huge take out business so I can't imagine they have a ton of extra.
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Post by giramomma on Apr 8, 2020 21:46:13 GMT -5
Okay, folks aren’t eating in restaurants, but they ARE eating at home and therefore buying more at the grocery store. Why not just sell to grocery stores (who seem to be having trouble staying stocked) rather than /plow under? Or create drive by CSAs. We already have drive by CSAs, or something very close to it.
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Post by tskeeter on Apr 8, 2020 23:14:49 GMT -5
We better be prepared for higher prices for a lot of (fresh) food items as they will be coming:
"Thousands of acres of fruits and vegetables grown in Florida are being plowed over or left to rot because farmers can’t sell to restaurants, theme parks or schools nationwide that have closed because of the coronavirus.
Other states are having the same issues — agriculture officials say leafy greens in California are being hit especially hard, and dairy farmers in Vermont and Wisconsin say they have had to a surplus of milk intended for restaurants. …" www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-claims-unexpected-victim-florida-143106764.html
Anyone who thinks this won't have an effect on grocery store prices is rather naïve IMO
Okay, folks aren’t eating in restaurants, but they ARE eating at home and therefore buying more at the grocery store. Why not just sell to grocery stores (who seem to be having trouble staying stocked) rather than /plow under? Often, it’s a question of package sizes. A restaurant can use a 10 pound block of cheese or a five gallon container of milk. The typical consumer can’t. For a food manufacturer to change it’s product mix from food service sizes to consumer sizes isn’t easy. The equipment a manufacturer has installed now has a capacity that matches it’s normal demand patterns. To significantly increase the production of consumer sized products means manufacturers would have to buy additional equipment. Equipment that is not an off the shelf purchase. It’s all semi-custom, engineered and built to order equipment. To buy, fabricate, and install new food processing equipment under normal circumstances is a 9 to 12 month process. Today, with additional challenges getting some of the material or components, getting a new piece of equipment would probably take 12 to 24 months. If you can’t package it in a size that consumers can use, you might as well leave it in the field and plow it under as fertilizer.
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Post by garion2003 on Apr 9, 2020 7:35:27 GMT -5
I went to Stop and Shop (I'm in the Boston area) this morning, right at 730 (just after senior hours ended). no long lines, no wait to get into store. no TP but plenty of paper towels. Plenty of pasta, canned goods etc. produce was fully stocked. Meat was a little low but there was still a lot on display. Lots of eggs and milk (with signs saying egg prices increased). Bakery was pretty well stocked.
however NO frozen food! The aisles were picked clean. No ice cream, no frozen chicken, very few breakfast food options. no frozen veggies. Very few prepared meals, tv dinners, etc. except for a few random lean cuisines and some vegan pizza.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 9, 2020 7:44:49 GMT -5
When I picked up my order yesterday, people in the parking lot all had one package of Angel Soft toilet paper. From that, I assume the limit was one package. It looked like 12 rolls.
I have plenty so I didn't buy any.
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Post by Ava on Apr 9, 2020 8:14:36 GMT -5
I went to Walmart Supercenter on Monday, at around 2 pm. Now you have to wait in line until someone leaves and then they will let you in. They are trying to maintain the number of customer in the store to about 20 percent capacity. It took maybe 10 minutes for me, but it was Monday at the time most people are working, whether from home or in-site.
Generally, I go after 6 pm or on the weekends and I'm sure it will take way longer to get in. I don't think the new measure is working completely as intended. Yes, there were less customers but most were in the grocery aisles so we were still in close proximity. I wandered away to the person hygiene aisles to see if there was any hand sanitizer - of course not- and the non-grocery aisles were almost empty.
They put arrows on the floor indicating which way to enter and exit an aisle. Most customers were not respecting the arrows, and employees didn't say anything to anyone about it.
At the door, they were allowing only one person per group. So if you came to the store with your spouse and kids, only one of you will be allowed in. Which, again, doesn't completely work as intended, because some items were limit one per person. For instance, one gallon of water per person. It's not even enough for me, imagine a family of four. Which means, those people will be at the store again the following day for more water, and the day after that, etc.
Everything was in stock in the grocery aisles, some were lean but present. Everything except... toilet paper. Not only was the toilet paper aisle devoid of its product, two employees were stocking it with Easter gift baskets. Ok, then. Good that I have two 18 rolls packages at home.
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Post by bean29 on Apr 9, 2020 9:16:59 GMT -5
I went to a smaller local grocery store on my lunch hour yesterday. I really ran in for a card for my Aunt who started Chemo yesterday. I picked the wrong store though as there is a hallmark card store right next door, so they have a smaller selection of cards than most grocery stores. The Hallmark store is closed rn. Anyways I also noticed that they had consolidated some aisles and stocked some aisles with alternative products.
They had Three Five Pound Bags of Flour on the shelf. I thought about buying all three, but I left one for someone else and bought two. DH has apparently been on a mission for his Mother looking for Flour. If I had not bought it, he would have been hitting the stores looking for it. She is making home made Flour Tortillas.
Their fresh veggies looked fully stocked. I did not go in the frozen aisle as I was returning to work. I could have bought long grain rice, but DH said his Mom did not need it right now.
They had lots of single roll TP wrapped in paper. I don't need TP right now so I did not go down that aisle. I could use some Paper Towels, but I forgot to look.
I looked for hand sanitizer and alcohol - nada. I did buy some dish soap for work, and they only had small bottles of Joy and some other brand, and large bottles of a clear version of Dawn. I bought the Dawn.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 9, 2020 9:52:57 GMT -5
I have no problems with one person per family in the stores. Here, most stores are not allowing children under 16 in the stores alone.
Kids 16 and over who are out of school were using the stores as hang outs and that is not why the stores were open.
I did see two elderly women get out of the same car yesterday and they were allowed to enter the store together.
The limitations are to protect the workers of the stores. They are putting their lives on the line for not a lot of pay.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 9, 2020 10:14:12 GMT -5
Since I stocked up on so much in Feb, we are fine. I even bought a gallon of dishwashing liquid and 2 2 gallon I think jugs of Fabulosa. We have packages of soap, bottles of shampoo, etc.
Hubs and I are talking about the garden and food shortages in the fall. I'm not sure about that, I know we have used over 100 jars of home canned goods. But I'm looking through down there and think I have at least 100 more. I'm not canning relish or pickles this year have plenty. I need to look through the rest and see, will help me decide what all to plant. We never buy tomato products.
I see people on our local facebook complaining about egg prices and hamburger. But these are people that are very low income. I can understand where they are coming from. But eggs are really a good cheap protein source. I do think grocery prices and there is going to be scarcity as crops rot in the field. I think that was going to happen anyway as trump keeps seasonal workers out. Very short sighted approach, will force more farmers out of business and will make us more dependent on imports. Someone on fox news, his official advisors should explain that to him.
But sadly I see more grocery employees getting sick, prices going up, and scarcity. Will see what's available when I do an order again next week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 10:18:49 GMT -5
I watched this video yesterday about TP production. Yes, I clearly need a life.
In the video, the industry expert said the problem is two-fold. More people are toileting at home since they aren't working or going to school, so more "residential" TP is needed. Plus people started stocking up and screwed up the supply chain.
He said the TP made for commercial use is made by different manufacturers who aren't set up to make TP for home use. The two are made differently and from different raw products. So, he said the commercial producers can't just switch over to making the residential version.
Perhaps that explains all the commercial TP being offered on Amazon.
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Post by CCL on Apr 9, 2020 10:42:01 GMT -5
Since I stocked up on so much in Feb, we are fine. I even bought a gallon of dishwashing liquid and 2 2 gallon I think jugs of Fabulosa. We have packages of soap, bottles of shampoo, etc. Hubs and I are talking about the garden and food shortages in the fall. I'm not sure about that, I know we have used over 100 jars of home canned goods. But I'm looking through down there and think I have at least 100 more. I'm not canning relish or pickles this year have plenty. I need to look through the rest and see, will help me decide what all to plant. We never buy tomato products. I see people on our local facebook complaining about egg prices and hamburger. But these are people that are very low income. I can understand where they are coming from. But eggs are really a good cheap protein source. I do think grocery prices and there is going to be scarcity as crops rot in the field. I think that was going to happen anyway as trump keeps seasonal workers out. Very short sighted approach, will force more farmers out of business and will make us more dependent on imports. Someone on fox news, his official advisors should explain that to him. But sadly I see more grocery employees getting sick, prices going up, and scarcity. Will see what's available when I do an order again next week. I can't help but wonder if some of the issues you and others in rural areas are seeing are due to your locations. Maybe just not getting supplies like you are used to? I'm not seeing prices going up in Indianapolis. Aldi had a dozen eggs for $.99, and spiral sliced hams for $.39 a lb., milk $1.79 a gallon. Sams Club had 90% ground beef for $2.99 a lb. Stores are pretty well restocked in the mornings, at least. I haven't had a problem finding things I need. Sometimes a store might be out of flour or TP, but the next week I find it. After the first couple weeks, their stock is mostly back to normal. I know that could change, but it's not that bad right now.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 9, 2020 10:57:36 GMT -5
I did online groceries twice. Husband is very high risk so I’m not going to grocery stores Still no chicken, no kielbasa (wanted for Easter) lots of substitutes mostly organic for regular I do want to get some long life milk or even powdered but wow the price increase. $6 for carton but need to buy pack of 6 plus shipping around $45. powdered seems expensive but I’ve never used I already used the 3 long life cartons I bought month sgo
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Post by souldoubt on Apr 9, 2020 11:14:55 GMT -5
Since I stocked up on so much in Feb, we are fine. I even bought a gallon of dishwashing liquid and 2 2 gallon I think jugs of Fabulosa. We have packages of soap, bottles of shampoo, etc. Hubs and I are talking about the garden and food shortages in the fall. I'm not sure about that, I know we have used over 100 jars of home canned goods. But I'm looking through down there and think I have at least 100 more. I'm not canning relish or pickles this year have plenty. I need to look through the rest and see, will help me decide what all to plant. We never buy tomato products. I see people on our local facebook complaining about egg prices and hamburger. But these are people that are very low income. I can understand where they are coming from. But eggs are really a good cheap protein source. I do think grocery prices and there is going to be scarcity as crops rot in the field. I think that was going to happen anyway as trump keeps seasonal workers out. Very short sighted approach, will force more farmers out of business and will make us more dependent on imports. Someone on fox news, his official advisors should explain that to him. But sadly I see more grocery employees getting sick, prices going up, and scarcity. Will see what's available when I do an order again next week. I can't help but wonder if some of the issues you and others in rural areas are seeing are due to your locations. Maybe just not getting supplies like you are used to? I'm not seeing prices going up in Indianapolis. Aldi had a dozen eggs for $.99, and spiral sliced hams for $.39 a lb., milk $1.79 a gallon. Sams Club had 90% ground beef for $2.99 a lb. Stores are pretty well restocked in the mornings, at least. I haven't had a problem finding things I need. Sometimes a store might be out of flour or TP, but the next week I find it. After the first couple weeks, their stock is mostly back to normal. I know that could change, but it's not that bad right now.This is my experience as well. 3 weeks ago I thought I was going to have to do a quasi-back alley deal to get some eggs and now all 3 of the stores I sometimes go to have food items back in stock - eggs, dairy, meats, etc. Trader Joe's seemed to raise the price on ground turkey a bit while they don't normally have meats on sale but the other stores still have their weekly deals for chicken, ground beef, turkey, steaks and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 11:54:45 GMT -5
What I've heard locally is the stores place their orders and basically get what they get from their warehouses/suppliers and that tends to be a portion of their orders but not all.
I know my son said they were told Walmart is no longer getting deliveries of non-food, non-essential items and is going to be blocking off those areas of their stores. His big super Walmart is turning into more of a traditional grocery store until this is over. Part of that is to save on trucking and ensure more food is available rather than items people don't really need right now.
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