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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 9, 2020 11:58:55 GMT -5
We have a friend that is supposed to go a little later than us and they already cancelled. They were surprised that we haven't cancelled yet either and my wife started second guessing herself. I told her the probability is very high that we'll cancel and we and my kids know that. But if I am not out any money by waiting, why wouldn't I just wait until it gets closer?
That's how I feel about going to Colorado. I am 99.9999% aware we are likely not going in August. But with everything going on does it kill you to let me have the 0.00001%? Does it make you feel superior or better about yourself to give me a lecture about it?
It's not like I am going out with 20+ people to the lake like I saw this weekend. I am not standing in line with 200+ people for toilet paper (like my BIL). I am following all the rules I am expected to for April as best I can considering I am an essential worker which means I don't get to work from home like you do as a C-level executive at an insurance company.
You don't know what will be going on in August anymore than I do. My kids have already been through enough lately, let them FOR NOW believe we can still get to Colorado. Us adults are plenty aware of reality thank you.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Apr 9, 2020 12:09:18 GMT -5
I haven't cancelled my Disney trip either. It's over Memorial Day so probably not happening. I wanted something to look forward to. I know logically they probably won't be open. Actually cancelling it is going to make me sad as hell so I haven't done it. I've struggled enough.
I do need to cancel my flight for early May to visit my cousin. The day I tried the phone lines were all garbled.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 9, 2020 12:30:35 GMT -5
That I can handle. I could also handle if by 6/1 they had to say we go out to 7/1 so forth and so on. I cannot, as a person with anxiety/depression, deal with the thought that this could last till 2022. I have to take it day by day or I may end up being one of those people that takes herself out. The fact of the matter is we don't know either way. So nobody needs to be getting on a high horse right now about how long we "have to" do this in either direction and trying to make others feel bad about their thoughts/feelings on the matter which I have been seeing A LOT of on social media. We got enough problems right now without people playing arm chair scientists. Even the real ones don't know for sure so unless you have information they don't keep your lectures to yourself. This has been my exact feeling this entire time. I'm a little surprised that all these people think Cuomo is doing a good job. Why? Because he's being a "straight talker" by telling people that nothing will be the same, that it's going to last into next year. How does he know? He has no idea. The scientists that are advising him have no idea. People are locked up in their houses now without jobs, do you think it's a good idea to tell them that the current reality is going to last another year? A much more prudent thing is to say is "We're dealing with new info all the time. I'm not going to speculate, I'm just going to say to follow the current recommendation and then we'll revise as we see where we're at". Don't even get me started on armchair public health experts. They read a handful of articles and all the sudden they think they are Jonas Salk. I'm supposed to go to Disney in June. We have a friend that is supposed to go a little later than us and they already cancelled. They were surprised that we haven't cancelled yet either and my wife started second guessing herself. I told her the probability is very high that we'll cancel and we and my kids know that. But if I am not out any money by waiting, why wouldn't I just wait until it gets closer? The bottom line is that nobody knows what we'll be looking like in a few weeks. Remember those stories about Italy? People dying in the ICU, beds all over the place, this is your future in 7 days! Well that didn't happen here even though we didn't lock it down soon enough. People don't know, they are just guessing. The problem is that if everyone is guessing, it's probably drowning out the people that might actually have a clue. NYC hospitals are a disaster zone, maybe not as bad as Italy, but not good. The number of cases are still rising, and will continue to do so for a while. In addition, the experience in other places is that cases plateaued for a while before declining. To think this will not be the case here is wishful thinking. So, we are in this situation for a while longer. When cases really drop to a few, then restrictions will be relaxed. Remember, at the end of the first wave, it is estimated that >90% of us will still not have had it. If we open up too soon, the infection roars back. I think life will be different in 2 months, but it will be nothing like “normal”.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Apr 9, 2020 12:34:49 GMT -5
I just cancelled my honeymoon to Mexico this August. I'm not sure when I am going to be comfortable traveling to a big city, let along a third world country! It was a gorgeous spa resort but for now, I will be limiting all travel to my backyard (lol) and once we open up, to other parts of the US. In addition to keeping us healthy and safe, I want to make sure my spending benefits the US. We have a long road ahead of us.
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 9, 2020 12:37:51 GMT -5
That I can handle. I could also handle if by 6/1 they had to say we go out to 7/1 so forth and so on. I cannot, as a person with anxiety/depression, deal with the thought that this could last till 2022. I have to take it day by day or I may end up being one of those people that takes herself out. The fact of the matter is we don't know either way. So nobody needs to be getting on a high horse right now about how long we "have to" do this in either direction and trying to make others feel bad about their thoughts/feelings on the matter which I have been seeing A LOT of on social media. We got enough problems right now without people playing arm chair scientists. Even the real ones don't know for sure so unless you have information they don't keep your lectures to yourself. This has been my exact feeling this entire time. I'm a little surprised that all these people think Cuomo is doing a good job. Why? Because he's being a "straight talker" by telling people that nothing will be the same, that it's going to last into next year. How does he know? He has no idea. The scientists that are advising him have no idea. People are locked up in their houses now without jobs, do you think it's a good idea to tell them that the current reality is going to last another year? A much more prudent thing is to say is "We're dealing with new info all the time. I'm not going to speculate, I'm just going to say to follow the current recommendation and then we'll revise as we see where we're at".Don't even get me started on armchair public health experts. They read a handful of articles and all the sudden they think they are Jonas Salk. I'm supposed to go to Disney in June. We have a friend that is supposed to go a little later than us and they already cancelled. They were surprised that we haven't cancelled yet either and my wife started second guessing herself. I told her the probability is very high that we'll cancel and we and my kids know that. But if I am not out any money by waiting, why wouldn't I just wait until it gets closer? The bottom line is that nobody knows what we'll be looking like in a few weeks. Remember those stories about Italy? People dying in the ICU, beds all over the place, this is your future in 7 days! Well that didn't happen here even though we didn't lock it down soon enough. People don't know, they are just guessing. The problem is that if everyone is guessing, it's probably drowning out the people that might actually have a clue. I only caught the tail-end of Cuomo's press conference today, but that's exactly what he was saying - nobody knows how this is heading, I can't give you a date we can reopen, just keep up the social distancing to let it work.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 9, 2020 12:56:49 GMT -5
This has been my exact feeling this entire time. I'm a little surprised that all these people think Cuomo is doing a good job. Why? Because he's being a "straight talker" by telling people that nothing will be the same, that it's going to last into next year. How does he know? He has no idea. The scientists that are advising him have no idea. People are locked up in their houses now without jobs, do you think it's a good idea to tell them that the current reality is going to last another year? A much more prudent thing is to say is "We're dealing with new info all the time. I'm not going to speculate, I'm just going to say to follow the current recommendation and then we'll revise as we see where we're at". Don't even get me started on armchair public health experts. They read a handful of articles and all the sudden they think they are Jonas Salk. I'm supposed to go to Disney in June. We have a friend that is supposed to go a little later than us and they already cancelled. They were surprised that we haven't cancelled yet either and my wife started second guessing herself. I told her the probability is very high that we'll cancel and we and my kids know that. But if I am not out any money by waiting, why wouldn't I just wait until it gets closer? The bottom line is that nobody knows what we'll be looking like in a few weeks. Remember those stories about Italy? People dying in the ICU, beds all over the place, this is your future in 7 days! Well that didn't happen here even though we didn't lock it down soon enough. People don't know, they are just guessing. The problem is that if everyone is guessing, it's probably drowning out the people that might actually have a clue. NYC hospitals are a disaster zone, maybe not as bad as Italy, but not good. The number of cases are still rising, and will continue to do so for a while. In addition, the experience in other places is that cases plateaued for a while before declining. To think this will not be the case here is wishful thinking. So, we are in this situation for a while longer. When cases really drop to a few, then restrictions will be relaxed. Remember, at the end of the first wave, it is estimated that >90% of us will still not have had it. If we open up too soon, the infection roars back. I think life will be different in 2 months, but it will be nothing like “normal”. I agree but my argument with people who jump down my throat are you don't know exactly WHAT our "normal" is going to be at this point. Maybe we can still go in August but will need to wear masks like they do in other countries. I may decide we're fine with that, you may decide to not leave your home till 2022. As long as I am following the CDC rules at whatever the time is, what purpose does it serve for these people to get on their high horse? If I was one of those people out last Saturday at the lake with 20+ members of my family, absolutely ride my ass. My dad is refusing to let the twins come back to work because their mom is being an idiot regarding quarantine and he doesn't want to put all the rest of us (and our families) at risk. Standing there (in my living room no less, so what is this about staying home?) lecturing me about AUGUST is a bit much. You don't know what will happen anymore than I do. DH and I already have accepted we likely won't be going and are preparing our kids for that. But they don't need to hear you going off about it. They are scared enough and depressed enough. Let us handle it as the time frame gets closer. Keep certain opinions to yourself right now especially in front of my kids.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Apr 9, 2020 13:18:39 GMT -5
I told my DH I didn't need to hear him going on about Disney would still be closed. And I'm a grown adult. I need something to hold onto for now. I can only deal with so much negative and stress at one time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 13:54:32 GMT -5
Pandemics are a known thing. They have very accurate virus growth equations. They are not political and not opinion. However, the US media seems to have two different pandemics happening, depending on which channel you watch. I'd like to see more honesty in the media and have them stop giving people false hope that soon "life will return to normal". No, it won't. And, telling people otherwise is dangerous in itself. It prevents people from properly preparing themselves and their environment. I was happy to see Canada's PM tell his population the truth on this topic this morning. Perhaps the US will follow suit. Probably not. nationalpost.com/news/canada/coronavirus-live-updates-covid-19-covid19All that said, I hear the message that some people are sensitive about the topic and would prefer not to hear about the predictions. I'll try to quell my comments a bit as not to add additional stress. My point has always been that people need to prepare for the possibility there may not be ample supplies or a "normal life" in the next year or two and it's perhaps prudent to prepare for that. Even if you have no desire to do any sort of preparation, I think it's criminal the US media doesn't seem to talk about this topic honestly.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 9, 2020 14:14:15 GMT -5
I was happy to see Canada's PM tell his population the truth on this topic this morning. Perhaps the US will follow suit. Probably not.
I'm pretty impressed with Trudeau, even though I did not vote for him. I also think François Legault, our Premier, is doing a bang-up job, in both languages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 14:22:23 GMT -5
I was happy to see Canada's PM tell his population the truth on this topic this morning. Perhaps the US will follow suit. Probably not.
I'm pretty impressed with Trudeau, even though I did not vote for him. I also think François Legault, our Premier, is doing a bang-up job, in both languages. I watch the Canadian news show "The National" on YouTube. It's nice to see actual news again instead of what the US is currently calling news.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 9, 2020 14:36:54 GMT -5
My point has always been that people need to prepare for the possibility there may not be ample supplies or a "normal life" in the next year or two and it's perhaps prudent to prepare for that. Even if you have no desire to do any sort of preparation
True but you don't know what people's coping mechanisms are right now. I certainly agree and we are mentally preparing ourselves and the kids. However I cannot handle having someone in my face harping about 2022. I am an adult thank you very much I am well aware of what is going on in the world, you lecturing me about four months down the road like you are a soothsayer is NOT helping my anxiety. My point is a lot of people around me who are playing arm chair scientist. Being a lab person myself I get we only know what we know and that is small compared to what we don't know I probably understand it a hell of a lot better than said people. However I am also socially aware enough to know I haven't walked in that person's shoes, it is not my job to beat them over the head if they feel like talking about future vacation plan.
I judge the people actively flouting the rules as they stand right now. You know what the rules right now are and disregard them.
I am not going to get on people's ass about the future when none of us know what the future will actually bring. If talking about plans later in the year keeps them calm I will listen and keep my mouth shut. That may be their only way to cope.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 9, 2020 14:38:46 GMT -5
I was happy to see Canada's PM tell his population the truth on this topic this morning. Perhaps the US will follow suit. Probably not.
I'm pretty impressed with Trudeau, even though I did not vote for him. I also think François Legault, our Premier, is doing a bang-up job, in both languages. I watch the Canadian news show "The National" on YouTube. It's nice to see actual news again instead of what the US is currently calling news. The CBC also covers US news. It's quite different from what you're getting down there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 14:48:16 GMT -5
I told my DH I didn't need to hear him going on about Disney would still be closed. And I'm a grown adult. I need something to hold onto for now. I can only deal with so much negative and stress at one time. I'm completely holding out hope for DS to be able to take his trip to NM in July with the scouts. I'm a little worried none of them will be in SHAPE for a 100 mile hike in the mountains, but I still hope they can go and suffer together. I'm also hopeful his college will start up this Fall and be in person. I was happy to hear the president propose a tuition freeze for 2020-21 while rumors everywhere are speculating tuition will go up at colleges to cover all the lost income. I guess when you have a 3 billion dollar emergency fund losing 10's or even hundreds of millions is not as scary as it sounds.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 9, 2020 14:55:37 GMT -5
This has been my exact feeling this entire time. I'm a little surprised that all these people think Cuomo is doing a good job. Why? Because he's being a "straight talker" by telling people that nothing will be the same, that it's going to last into next year. How does he know? He has no idea. The scientists that are advising him have no idea. People are locked up in their houses now without jobs, do you think it's a good idea to tell them that the current reality is going to last another year? A much more prudent thing is to say is "We're dealing with new info all the time. I'm not going to speculate, I'm just going to say to follow the current recommendation and then we'll revise as we see where we're at".Don't even get me started on armchair public health experts. They read a handful of articles and all the sudden they think they are Jonas Salk. I'm supposed to go to Disney in June. We have a friend that is supposed to go a little later than us and they already cancelled. They were surprised that we haven't cancelled yet either and my wife started second guessing herself. I told her the probability is very high that we'll cancel and we and my kids know that. But if I am not out any money by waiting, why wouldn't I just wait until it gets closer? The bottom line is that nobody knows what we'll be looking like in a few weeks. Remember those stories about Italy? People dying in the ICU, beds all over the place, this is your future in 7 days! Well that didn't happen here even though we didn't lock it down soon enough. People don't know, they are just guessing. The problem is that if everyone is guessing, it's probably drowning out the people that might actually have a clue. I only caught the tail-end of Cuomo's press conference today, but that's exactly what he was saying - nobody knows how this is heading, I can't give you a date we can reopen, just keep up the social distancing to let it work. That's not what he's been saying for the last 3 weeks. Maybe he tempers it a bit more now that things are settling down in NYC.
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Post by plugginaway22 on Apr 9, 2020 15:00:02 GMT -5
I am sick and tired of the press not even mentioning the state of PA. We are now 6th in the nation with total number of cases. All we hear about is New York and CA. Thankfully the deaths are somewhat lower but the daily increases to all these numbers is crazy.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 9, 2020 15:11:01 GMT -5
My point has always been that people need to prepare for the possibility there may not be ample supplies or a "normal life" in the next year or two and it's perhaps prudent to prepare for that. Even if you have no desire to do any sort of preparationTrue but you don't know what people's coping mechanisms are right now. I certainly agree and we are mentally preparing ourselves and the kids. However I cannot handle having someone in my face harping about 2022. I am an adult thank you very much I am well aware of what is going on in the world, you lecturing me about four months down the road like you are a soothsayer is NOT helping my anxiety. My point is a lot of people around me who are playing arm chair scientist. Being a lab person myself I get we only know what we know and that is small compared to what we don't know I probably understand it a hell of a lot better than said people. However I am also socially aware enough to know I haven't walked in that person's shoes, it is not my job to beat them over the head if they feel like talking about future vacation plan. I judge the people actively flouting the rules as they stand right now. You know what the rules right now are and disregard them.
I am not going to get on people's ass about the future when none of us know what the future will actually bring. If talking about plans later in the year keeps them calm I will listen and keep my mouth shut. That may be their only way to cope. I feel like this has really made me notice some people's lack of social awareness or maybe just really poor delivery/communication skills. Last April, a neighbor told me that they were going to do an addition and were hoping to have it done by the time the baby was due (September). I had just gone through an addition and knew, with the way the permits work, that this was very unlikely given where she was in the process. She didn't ask me how long I think it would take, so I didn't offer an opinion. For all I knew, she could've finished it in time. Who am I to say otherwise? My wife is on a facebook moms group and she just can't believe how petty people are being. Someone will say "Hey, I want to hire a cleaning lady, any recommendations" and people are like "NOT ESSENTIAL-They should be at home!!!!" or "I am NOT having my regular cleaning lady come, I'm paying her to stay at home. Nobody should be out!!!". The OP chimes in saying that she is looking for someone to clean her mom's (recently deceased) now-vacant home. The moral is, if you don't know the whole story, keep your mouth shut!
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 9, 2020 15:16:20 GMT -5
My point has always been that people need to prepare for the possibility there may not be ample supplies or a "normal life" in the next year or two and it's perhaps prudent to prepare for that. Even if you have no desire to do any sort of preparationTrue but you don't know what people's coping mechanisms are right now. I certainly agree and we are mentally preparing ourselves and the kids. However I cannot handle having someone in my face harping about 2022. I am an adult thank you very much I am well aware of what is going on in the world, you lecturing me about four months down the road like you are a soothsayer is NOT helping my anxiety. My point is a lot of people around me who are playing arm chair scientist. Being a lab person myself I get we only know what we know and that is small compared to what we don't know I probably understand it a hell of a lot better than said people. However I am also socially aware enough to know I haven't walked in that person's shoes, it is not my job to beat them over the head if they feel like talking about future vacation plan. I judge the people actively flouting the rules as they stand right now. You know what the rules right now are and disregard them.
I am not going to get on people's ass about the future when none of us know what the future will actually bring. If talking about plans later in the year keeps them calm I will listen and keep my mouth shut. That may be their only way to cope. I feel like this has really made me notice some people's lack of social awareness or maybe just really poor delivery/communication skills. Last April, a neighbor told me that they were going to do an addition and were hoping to have it done by the time the baby was due (September). I had just gone through an addition and knew, with the way the permits work, that this was very unlikely given where she was in the process. She didn't ask me how long I think it would take, so I didn't offer an opinion. For all I knew, she could've finished it in time. Who am I to say otherwise? My wife is on a facebook moms group and she just can't believe how petty people are being. Someone will say "Hey, I want to hire a cleaning lady, any recommendations" and people are like "NOT ESSENTIAL-They should be at home!!!!" or "I am NOT having my regular cleaning lady come, I'm paying her to stay at home. Nobody should be out!!!". The OP chimes in saying that she is looking for someone to clean her mom's (recently deceased) now-vacant home. The moral is, if you don't know the whole story, keep your mouth shut! We have cleaning services which do that....in HazMat suits
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 9, 2020 15:27:11 GMT -5
I am sick and tired of the press not even mentioning the state of PA. We are now 6th in the nation with total number of cases. All we hear about is New York and CA. Thankfully the deaths are somewhat lower but the daily increases to all these numbers is crazy. Do you have a local (PA) tv station, newspaper?
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 9, 2020 15:28:51 GMT -5
I only caught the tail-end of Cuomo's press conference today, but that's exactly what he was saying - nobody knows how this is heading, I can't give you a date we can reopen, just keep up the social distancing to let it work. That's not what he's been saying for the last 3 weeks. Maybe he tempers it a bit more now that things are settling down in NYC. Wow, not settling down The numbers in ERs ICUs and deaths are overwhelming, also in NJ
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Post by swamp on Apr 9, 2020 15:34:42 GMT -5
I watch the Canadian news show "The National" on YouTube. It's nice to see actual news again instead of what the US is currently calling news. The CBC also covers US news. It's quite different from what you're getting down there. I watch CTV/CBC out of Ottawa. Much better than the US news. It also has much better Olympics coverage.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 9, 2020 15:38:31 GMT -5
The CBC also covers US news. It's quite different from what you're getting down there. I watch CTV/CBC out of Ottawa. Much better than the US news. It also has much better Olympics coverage. I like the CBC. Speaking of which.....I haz a sad. CBC aired its final episode of Schitt's Creek on Tuesday.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 9, 2020 16:12:21 GMT -5
I don’t know what the future holds. There are short term, medium term, and long term plans. Long term is normal, when is TBD. We know what is required to be completely normal, herd immunity, either from everyone getting sick or a vaccine. Let’s hope for a vaccine. Short-term is more of this. Looking at projections, we will be dealing with this until summer, when exactly is unclear. In between is difficult. It can’t stay like this, and it won’t be normal. What it looks like should be what we are planning for, and will in part be decided by our treatment options, and the true percent of the population who is infected. This is difficult for everyone, but complete lockdown for a long time hurts too many people. I have a junior in college, and like everyone else, I hope he starts his senior year in fall. I get it.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 9, 2020 16:28:12 GMT -5
The CBC also covers US news. It's quite different from what you're getting down there. I watch CTV/CBC out of Ottawa. Much better than the US news. It also has much better Olympics coverage. Right now they are just showing empty stadiums. 🙊
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:47:09 GMT -5
I feel like I must be missing something, maybe the rules changed and I missed it?
I thought the guidelines included that if you’ve been in contact (less than 6’ for more than 10 minutes) with someone that has tested positive for Covid19, you are to self quarantine for 14 days after last contact.
I learned yesterday and this morning that 2 of my coworkers that I worked alongside less than a week ago for entire 8 hour shifts, have tested positive.
My job told me to contact my healthcare provider. My doctor’s nurse basically told me to use my best judgement as to what to do. Well, my job doesn’t give a shit about my “best judgement”.
After I learned about the other coworker (actually it’s a total of 3 so far in that group. The 3rd was already off work), I called my Dr’s office again. They gave me the number to the “covid hotline” and told me to call them.
That turned out to be a hotline set up by either our county or state’s health department (I forgot which one). All they really do is tell you where testing sites are near you.
I am BEYOND frustrated. If I weren’t one of the people taking this pandemic seriously, I would’ve just gone to work today, despite the fact that there’s a (good?) chance I have Covid19 since 3 of the 7 people that work in that group have recently tested positive for it. It’s impossible to maintain 6’ distance between each other while working that job. I don’t even normally work over there! I’ve been sent over there to work to help out because they’ve been short staffed. Now I know why!
So what, just go on back to work tomorrow and potentially keep spreading it myself? Self quarantine for 14 days even though I won’t get paid and will probably have some disciplinary repercussions from my job because my Doctor didn’t tell me to? Never mind the fact that either a nurse from my job district or someone from HR is supposed to have called me because of the 2 employees I recently worked with that are positive. They did contact the employee I found out about yesterday, and my name was included in the ones that employee gave them. But so far, no one has contacted me. Wtf do they even want the names if they aren’t going to contact anyone?
These aren’t the only confirmed cases in our building. They’re just the only confirmed cases (that I know about) among people I’ve recently worked side by side with.
The last time I looked at the stats there were over 900 confirmed cases in my county. The number has been steadily growing.
I’ve been following the “rules” for dealing with this pandemic, I generally try to do the right thing anyway, for myself, for my loved ones, and even for my community. But the “rules” for this must only be in theory and not necessarily what needs to happen in real life.
This is a bunch of bullshit and it’s stressing me the fuck out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:49:00 GMT -5
Some states are requiring that the big box stores cordon off sections of "non-necessities", including clothing and electronics. They can be sold on-line and for pickup but not to the looky-loos who wander through the aisles for entertainment.
I hate to see the revenue of stores being reduced because they can sell only part of their inventory in-store but if it keeps the recreational shoppers out I guess it's worth it.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 9, 2020 17:05:11 GMT -5
I feel like this has really made me notice some people's lack of social awareness or maybe just really poor delivery/communication skills. Last April, a neighbor told me that they were going to do an addition and were hoping to have it done by the time the baby was due (September). I had just gone through an addition and knew, with the way the permits work, that this was very unlikely given where she was in the process. She didn't ask me how long I think it would take, so I didn't offer an opinion. For all I knew, she could've finished it in time. Who am I to say otherwise? My wife is on a facebook moms group and she just can't believe how petty people are being. Someone will say "Hey, I want to hire a cleaning lady, any recommendations" and people are like "NOT ESSENTIAL-They should be at home!!!!" or "I am NOT having my regular cleaning lady come, I'm paying her to stay at home. Nobody should be out!!!". The OP chimes in saying that she is looking for someone to clean her mom's (recently deceased) now-vacant home. The moral is, if you don't know the whole story, keep your mouth shut! We have cleaning services which do that....in HazMat suits Sure you do. You've always been an unbiased person with no ill will towards anyone, so why would I not believe what you say.
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Post by resolution on Apr 9, 2020 19:59:24 GMT -5
It looks like they relaxed the guidelines on when exposed workers could be at work. apnews.com/fab319a90ead9aae057f7fab059c2ccbI am worried that they are pushing too fast to get people to work, because they are worried about how the economy will impact the election, rather than worried about public health.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Apr 11, 2020 19:53:14 GMT -5
It looks like they relaxed the guidelines on when exposed workers could be at work. apnews.com/fab319a90ead9aae057f7fab059c2ccbI am worried that they are pushing too fast to get people to work, because they are worried about how the economy will impact the election, rather than worried about public health. So essential workers who have been exposed can go to work as long as they have no symptoms Considering the high percentage (as much as 50%) of asymptomatic carriers, this strikes me as dangerous and politically motivated
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 11, 2020 20:28:22 GMT -5
It looks like they relaxed the guidelines on when exposed workers could be at work. apnews.com/fab319a90ead9aae057f7fab059c2ccbI am worried that they are pushing too fast to get people to work, because they are worried about how the economy will impact the election, rather than worried about public health. So essential workers who have been exposed can go to work as long as they have no symptoms Considering the high percentage (as much as 50%) of asymptomatic carriers, this strikes me as dangerous and politically motivated It is a recognition that we could run out of doctors and nurses with the old guidelines
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Post by Sharon on Apr 11, 2020 20:40:36 GMT -5
I think our trip to the cabin is still on although I wish I would have rescheduled it a month ago. Now I think we would lose our deposit, which is significant. This trip was booked end of last year as something for Mom to look forward to while she was going through hip replacement surgery and rehab. It was also supposed to be a chance to get out of the house before they did her second hip in May, that surgery has been cancelled. There is no issue with social distancing because they are individual little cabins that are spaced probably 10 feet apart. We usually just sit inside or on the deck and watch the river. Even if we do go for a walk they are short because Mom can't walk far. It is a 2 hour drive so no need to stop on the way. I still wish we were staying home.
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