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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 23, 2020 20:00:16 GMT -5
I agree, he needs the stock market to go up, so he has something to point to. He is unable to think he is ever wrong, so if experts tell him different, they are wrong. So sideline them, and find someone else. He is usually wrong, but never in doubt so, this is just another manifestation of NPD?
fuck. we are doomed.
What other choice is there. He cannot act like this is a crisis and his attention span is that of a gnat
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 23, 2020 21:18:43 GMT -5
I am just waiting to see how he spins this come Nov.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 23, 2020 21:28:53 GMT -5
I am just waiting to see how he spins this come Nov. $10 says that "democrats" "conspiracy" "Clinton" and "Obama" all play a heavy role.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 23, 2020 21:55:36 GMT -5
I am just waiting to see how he spins this come Nov. $10 says that "democrats" "conspiracy" "Clinton" and "Obama" all play a heavy role. You forgot fake news.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 23, 2020 22:14:32 GMT -5
What is WRONG with these people? Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: 'I'm all in' on risking my health to lift social distancing guidelines for economic boost Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Monday night that he's "not living in fear" of the novel coronavirus pandemic and is "all in" on lifting social distancing guidelines recommended by public health experts in order to help the economy. Patrick, who said he turns 70 next week, would be among the high-risk population that is most affected by the coronavirus. But he said people like him have to weigh the hazards to their personal health that the virus poses with the challenges to health of the American economy brought on by social distancing guidelines. www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/coronavirus-texas-social-distancing-guidelines/index.htmlHe's all in on risking his health? You want to risk your own health....go ahead. Don't fuck with other peoples' health!
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 5, 2020 13:24:48 GMT -5
No one knows more about pandemics, medicine, and science than trump. Oh! And TV ratings too.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 5, 2020 13:26:52 GMT -5
King of the pandumbic?
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Post by deminmaine on Apr 6, 2020 8:33:16 GMT -5
Jeffrey Dahmer has been behaving nicely lately.
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Post by bean29 on Apr 6, 2020 9:20:48 GMT -5
Jeffrey Dahmer has been behaving nicely lately. In Hell? Cause I know he died in Prison.
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Post by deminmaine on Apr 6, 2020 9:55:12 GMT -5
Jeffrey Dahmer has been behaving nicely lately. In Hell? Cause I know he died in Prison. Yeah, I know. I was just riffing on the title of this thread because it is so ridiculous. Performing well? LOL, is he hosting Survivor, or his reality show maybe? Lately?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 6, 2020 10:14:24 GMT -5
In Hell? Cause I know he died in Prison. Yeah, I know. I was just riffing on the title of this thread because it is so ridiculous. Performing well? LOL, is he hosting Survivor, or his reality show maybe? Lately? New book out from ABC news and White House correspondent Jonathan Karl: Front Row at the Trump Show
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 6, 2020 11:26:18 GMT -5
New York Times opinion piece. May or may not be behind a paywall. Opinion Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?He’s not rising to the challenge of the coronavirus pandemic. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Do you remember President George W. Bush’s remarks at Ground Zero in Manhattan after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks? I can still hear him speaking of national grief and national pride. This was before all the awful judgment calls and fatal mistakes, and it doesn’t excuse them. But it mattered, because it reassured us that our country’s leader was navigating some of the same emotional currents that we were. Do you remember President Barack Obama’s news conference after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 people, including 20 children, dead? I do. Freshest in my memory is how he fought back tears. He was hurting. He cared. And while we couldn’t bank on new laws to prevent the next massacre, we could at least hold on to that. One more question: Do you remember the moment when President Trump’s bearing and words made clear that he grasped not only the magnitude of this rapidly metastasizing pandemic but also our terror in the face of it? It passed me by, maybe because it never happened. In Trump’s predecessors, for all their imperfections, I could sense the beat of a heart and see the glimmer of a soul. In him I can’t, and that fills me with a sorrow and a rage that I quite frankly don’t know what to do with. Americans are dying by the thousands, and he gloats about what a huge, rapt television audience he has. They’re confronting financial ruin and not sure how they’ll continue to pay for food and shelter, and he reprimands governors for not treating him with adequate adulation. He’s not rising to the challenge before him, not even a millimeter. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Rest of article here: Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?
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Post by deminmaine on Apr 6, 2020 12:36:14 GMT -5
When he got the Presidential nomination I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Then when he was elected I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Then, at his inauguration I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Sadly today, as he constantly bungles one of the biggest crisis I have seen, I think well, that could be expected.
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New York Times opinion piece. May or may not be behind a paywall. Opinion Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?He’s not rising to the challenge of the coronavirus pandemic. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Do you remember President George W. Bush’s remarks at Ground Zero in Manhattan after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks? I can still hear him speaking of national grief and national pride. This was before all the awful judgment calls and fatal mistakes, and it doesn’t excuse them. But it mattered, because it reassured us that our country’s leader was navigating some of the same emotional currents that we were. Do you remember President Barack Obama’s news conference after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 people, including 20 children, dead? I do. Freshest in my memory is how he fought back tears. He was hurting. He cared. And while we couldn’t bank on new laws to prevent the next massacre, we could at least hold on to that. One more question: Do you remember the moment when President Trump’s bearing and words made clear that he grasped not only the magnitude of this rapidly metastasizing pandemic but also our terror in the face of it? It passed me by, maybe because it never happened. In Trump’s predecessors, for all their imperfections, I could sense the beat of a heart and see the glimmer of a soul. In him I can’t, and that fills me with a sorrow and a rage that I quite frankly don’t know what to do with. Americans are dying by the thousands, and he gloats about what a huge, rapt television audience he has. They’re confronting financial ruin and not sure how they’ll continue to pay for food and shelter, and he reprimands governors for not treating him with adequate adulation. He’s not rising to the challenge before him, not even a millimeter. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Rest of article here: Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?And the Republican Party is set up to renominate him for a second term. Do enough of the party leadership have a soul that will cause them to stop it?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 6, 2020 12:40:34 GMT -5
When he got the Presidential nomination I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Then when he was elected I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Then, at his inauguration I thought well, maybe he will rise to the occasion. Sadly today, as he constantly bungles one of the biggest crisis I have seen, I think well, that could be expected. I knew right after his inauguration he could never rise to the occassion because he cried and lied about the total folks who showed up at his inauguration.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Apr 6, 2020 12:46:29 GMT -5
What is WRONG with these people? Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: 'I'm all in' on risking my health to lift social distancing guidelines for economic boost Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Monday night that he's "not living in fear" of the novel coronavirus pandemic and is "all in" on lifting social distancing guidelines recommended by public health experts in order to help the economy. Patrick, who said he turns 70 next week, would be among the high-risk population that is most affected by the coronavirus. But he said people like him have to weigh the hazards to their personal health that the virus poses with the challenges to health of the American economy brought on by social distancing guidelines. www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/coronavirus-texas-social-distancing-guidelines/index.htmlHe's all in on risking his health? You want to risk your own health....go ahead. Don't fuck with other peoples' health! Most of my friends in TX said they shouldn't be on lockdown before TX finally did it last week. They drink the kool aid.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 6, 2020 13:04:27 GMT -5
In Hell? Cause I know he died in Prison. Yeah, I know. I was just riffing on the title of this thread because it is so ridiculous. Performing well? LOL, is he hosting Survivor, or his reality show maybe? Lately? Yes. Yes he is. He'a treating this like a reality show (still bragging about his presser ratings) and it IS Survivor. You may or may not survive his incompetent leadership.
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What is WRONG with these people? Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick: 'I'm all in' on risking my health to lift social distancing guidelines for economic boost Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick said Monday night that he's "not living in fear" of the novel coronavirus pandemic and is "all in" on lifting social distancing guidelines recommended by public health experts in order to help the economy. Patrick, who said he turns 70 next week, would be among the high-risk population that is most affected by the coronavirus. But he said people like him have to weigh the hazards to their personal health that the virus poses with the challenges to health of the American economy brought on by social distancing guidelines. www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/coronavirus-texas-social-distancing-guidelines/index.htmlHe's all in on risking his health? You want to risk your own health....go ahead. Don't fuck with other peoples' health! Most of my friends in TX said they shouldn't be on lockdown before TX finally did it last week. They drink the kool aid. I just came back from the store, getting a ration of paper towels for the shop. You could tell all of the trumpettes because they weren't wearing the masks.
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New York Times opinion piece. May or may not be behind a paywall. Opinion Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?He’s not rising to the challenge of the coronavirus pandemic. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Do you remember President George W. Bush’s remarks at Ground Zero in Manhattan after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks? I can still hear him speaking of national grief and national pride. This was before all the awful judgment calls and fatal mistakes, and it doesn’t excuse them. But it mattered, because it reassured us that our country’s leader was navigating some of the same emotional currents that we were. Do you remember President Barack Obama’s news conference after the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 people, including 20 children, dead? I do. Freshest in my memory is how he fought back tears. He was hurting. He cared. And while we couldn’t bank on new laws to prevent the next massacre, we could at least hold on to that. One more question: Do you remember the moment when President Trump’s bearing and words made clear that he grasped not only the magnitude of this rapidly metastasizing pandemic but also our terror in the face of it? It passed me by, maybe because it never happened. In Trump’s predecessors, for all their imperfections, I could sense the beat of a heart and see the glimmer of a soul. In him I can’t, and that fills me with a sorrow and a rage that I quite frankly don’t know what to do with. Americans are dying by the thousands, and he gloats about what a huge, rapt television audience he has. They’re confronting financial ruin and not sure how they’ll continue to pay for food and shelter, and he reprimands governors for not treating him with adequate adulation. He’s not rising to the challenge before him, not even a millimeter. He’s shriveling into nothingness. Rest of article here: Has Anyone Found Trump’s Soul? Anyone?And the Republican Party is set up to renominate him for a second term. Do enough of the party leadership have a soul that will cause them to stop it? I see in the GOP similarities {"Yup , bringing up the 1945 German experience"} to the mobilization of the "Hitler Youth " brigades...highly motivated, very well trained and extremely very, very young..introduced into the active war as it was ending in 1945...fought very well but basically wiped out as Allies, Russian Army's had no patience after five years of war and it's results.. I expect that it will be similar and the results will be the same and it will be decades before the GOP is taken seriously beyond certain pockets in the country...For the most part, not taken as a responsible Political Party by most Americans after their experience with their blind devotion and support , no matter what, of the Donald, who will end up on the ash hill of American political parties...no matter how much he tweets his own support of how wonderfull he was as a POTUS.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 6, 2020 14:35:31 GMT -5
"Trump has been performing well lately"
The USA has 5% of the global population, but 25% of the global Covid19 cases. What's wrong with this picture? It tells me Trump doing a craptastic job of reigning this thing in. Allowing individual states to keep the churches/beaches/synagogues/parks is sheer idiocy.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 6, 2020 14:40:50 GMT -5
I am just waiting to see how he spins this come Nov. $10 says that "democrats" "conspiracy" "Clinton" and "Obama" all play a heavy role. He is already spinning it. Have you listened to one of his self congratulatory daily updated, bragging about how he's doing better than anyone expected? How his administration has just NAILED this pandemic? All the best people. All the biggest brains. No one could have done any better. My Trumpettee sister in law has absolutely bought into it - she keeps insisting we would be really really screwed if Hillary had won. I want to ask her in what way, in particular, she thinks Hillary could have done worse, but she's my SIL, I love her, and she only listens to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, so she can only parrot what she hears there. If it wasn't on Fox or Rush, it didn't happen - FAKE NEWS. By the time november rolls around, Trump will have reworked this crisis into the finest governmental response since the Chinese built the Great Wall. We won't even recognize it, because none of his spin will be made from any part of reality.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 6, 2020 14:52:19 GMT -5
"Trump has been performing well lately"
The USA has 5% of the global population, but 25% of the global Covid19 cases. What's wrong with this picture? It tells me Trump doing a craptastic job of reigning this thing in. Allowing individual states to keep the churches/beaches/synagogues/parks is sheer idiocy. Good luck with that. You can’t use this metric. Some areas are not testing at all, and who knows what India’s rates are, or Russia’s.....or even China’s? Cases merely depends upon test results, nothing else.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 6, 2020 15:11:40 GMT -5
"Trump has been performing well lately"
The USA has 5% of the global population, but 25% of the global Covid19 cases. What's wrong with this picture? It tells me Trump doing a craptastic job of reigning this thing in. Allowing individual states to keep the churches/beaches/synagogues/parks is sheer idiocy. Good luck with that. You can’t use this metric. Some areas are not testing at all, and who knows what India’s rates are, or Russia’s.....or even China’s? Cases merely depends upon test results, nothing else. true. deaths are a better measure.
we will likely be leading the world by week's end.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 6, 2020 15:13:50 GMT -5
"Trump has been performing well lately"
The USA has 5% of the global population, but 25% of the global Covid19 cases. What's wrong with this picture? It tells me Trump doing a craptastic job of reigning this thing in. Allowing individual states to keep the churches/beaches/synagogues/parks is sheer idiocy. Good luck with that. You can’t use this metric. Some areas are not testing at all, and who knows what India’s rates are, or Russia’s.....or even China’s? Cases merely depends upon test results, nothing else. At the end of the day, I think the best metric of severity of outlet will be deaths from pneumonia/respiratory failure/coronavirus conbined. Until we can screen with an antibody test
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 6, 2020 15:18:16 GMT -5
You can’t use this metric. Some areas are not testing at all, and who knows what India’s rates are, or Russia’s.....or even China’s? Cases merely depends upon test results, nothing else. At the end of the day, I think the best metric of severity of outlet will be deaths from pneumonia/respiratory failure/coronavirus conbined. Until we can screen with an antibody test Yep. Koch’s postulates do not work well here.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 6, 2020 15:27:32 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I think the best metric of severity of outlet will be deaths from pneumonia/respiratory failure/coronavirus conbined. Until we can screen with an antibody test Yep. Koch’s postulates do not work well here. We couldn't test for it, and still are not testing accurately. Initially, deaths would have been coded as pneumonia or influenza since we didn't know extent of outbreak. Now, the are both political and practical reasons why we may not code it. But by following ED visits/hospital admissions(total)/hospital admissions for respiratory disease/deaths, and compare them to historical data for the same time of year, we will get a better picture of the severity of the epidemic. Unfortunately, people will say this is all pointy headed stuff, ignore the data, and believe what they want. Oh well
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 6, 2020 16:47:58 GMT -5
Yep. Koch’s postulates do not work well here. We couldn't test for it, and still are not testing accurately. Initially, deaths would have been coded as pneumonia or influenza since we didn't know extent of outbreak. Now, the are both political and practical reasons why we may not code it. But by following ED visits/hospital admissions(total)/hospital admissions for respiratory disease/deaths, and compare them to historical data for the same time of year, we will get a better picture of the severity of the epidemic. Unfortunately, people will say this is all pointy headed stuff, ignore the data, and believe what they want. Oh well so far, there has not been much debate about the deaths. there is wide opinion on the number of cases, particularly given the fact that many who have C19 are asymptomatic.
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We couldn't test for it, and still are not testing accurately. Initially, deaths would have been coded as pneumonia or influenza since we didn't know extent of outbreak. Now, the are both political and practical reasons why we may not code it. But by following ED visits/hospital admissions(total)/hospital admissions for respiratory disease/deaths, and compare them to historical data for the same time of year, we will get a better picture of the severity of the epidemic. Unfortunately, people will say this is all pointy headed stuff, ignore the data, and believe what they want. Oh well so far, there has not been much debate about the deaths. there is wide opinion on the number of cases, particularly given the fact that many who have C19 are asymptomatic. There were some articles in the paper and on line in the last few days talking about undercounting death, particularly early on when we were unaware of the extent of spread. Those deaths would likely have been attributed to pneumonia or influenza. Even now, in areas that don’t believe they have a problem, we are likely still attributing them to either cause, especially if there is a political motivation
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"Trump has been performing well lately"
The USA has 5% of the global population, but 25% of the global Covid19 cases. What's wrong with this picture? It tells me Trump doing a craptastic job of reigning this thing in. Allowing individual states to keep the churches/beaches/synagogues/parks is sheer idiocy. Good luck with that. Perhaps Trump (and the GOP) are going the daring route. Let the coronavirus do what it's gonna do and get it over with no matter who or how many die. And then in the after math - while other countries are still struggling with it, America will come out ahead and profit greatly! MAGA! I'm pretty sure plenty of wealthy and/or powerful Americans have retreated to their "private estates" and will ride out the pandemic in relative safety.
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