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Post by scottcool on Mar 15, 2020 11:08:18 GMT -5
So I know most have prepared their best to not get the virus. Im curious for the amount of people who are ready to catch it. For example, Im a first responder and will be working no matter how bad this gets. I have prepared to prevent it, but also had to realistically prepare for if and when I get it. What's your take?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2020 12:01:44 GMT -5
Back in 1855, 1867 and 1873, Memphis (where I live) had three yellow fever outbreaks. Those who could, fled the city. Many of those who could not died. About 20,000 people in thearea died fromthe fever. The dead includeddoctorss, nurses, and Catholic nuns who help treat the sick.
Times have changed. We now handle outbreaks better.
Some EMT and healthcare providers can probably expect to come down with the virus while even taking great precautions not to do so.
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Post by busymom on Mar 15, 2020 12:12:36 GMT -5
If I were currently in the health care industry, I would be doing a bit extra to strengthen my immunity. Make sure you're getting enough Vitamin C, get as much rest as you can (no binge-watching your favorite shows late at night), eat healthier than you might normally, etc.
I read an interesting article about the crisis in 1918, before they had antibiotics. They were putting patients, in their hospital beds, outside in the sunshine. It appeared both the sun & fresh air helped in survival rates. Whatever works is a good thing!
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 15, 2020 12:23:31 GMT -5
Myself and my immediate family will get it. With kids I don't really see a way to avoid it. Just trying to limit how much we expose others.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 15, 2020 12:36:30 GMT -5
I am half assed prepared to go into isolation. I am in a currently low risk area. I am planning on preparing the other half of my ass today. I am defrosting the freezer and will go to the store when it is ready to be topped off. I plan on getting powdered milk and am still thinking through what else makes sense for a long term lock down.
But to your point. I was also thinking this morning what I should do to help my wife care for a sick me or me a sick her if not bad enough/able to be hospitallized. What might we be able to keep down? Etc. All processing and would appreciate ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 12:46:52 GMT -5
This is one of the times when living in the country has its perks. Even if I'm forced to self-isolate at home I'll still be able to get outside and have lots of room to go for a hike or ride my horse without being anywhere near anybody (except my kids who I assume would just automatically be in the same boat). It sounds like the mental aspect of being locked away are worse than the physical.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 15, 2020 14:35:51 GMT -5
I work in retail and just make it into the vulnerable category (just turned 60 and have high blood pressure for which I take Ace Inhibitors for -- the Ace Inhibitors are apparently a risk factor for the virus).
I also just spent my free time the past few days in grocery stores, stocking up.
I am probably doomed.
In my favor, I work a physically active/demanding job, I get far more than the 10K steps recommended each day, I lift heavy items all day long, I walk my pup outside every day, I live in the rural suburbs so can also get out to walk, hike, on secluded trails, eat fairly well with a good dose of treats thrown in, don't smoke, drink lightly, don't do illicit drugs, my PCP is on staff at a MAJOR Boston hospital, my hands are cracked and bleeding from all the washing.
I don't want to die like this -- I have a ton of life still left in me.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 15, 2020 14:38:17 GMT -5
I am half assed prepared to go into isolation. I am in a currently low risk area. I am planning on preparing the other half of my ass today. I am defrosting the freezer and will go to the store when it is ready to be topped off. I plan on getting powdered milk and am still thinking through what else makes sense for a long term lock down. But to your point. I was also thinking this morning what I should do to help my wife care for a sick me or me a sick her if not bad enough/able to be hospitallized. What might we be able to keep down? Etc. All processing and would appreciate ideas. I don't believe vomiting is a symptom of the virus, but I could be wrong. What I heard is that it is, essentially, a viral pneumonia. But, for upset stomaches, flat ginger ale or Coke, saltines, the BRAT diet: bananas, rice, applesauce, plain toast. For pneumonia, broth, soups, tea with lemon or honey, water for hydration, jello, popsicles, fruit purees, etc.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 15, 2020 14:45:12 GMT -5
I don't really understand the question. The majority who get it do not have severe symptoms. Some don't have any.
So - who knows if some us have it and don't even know?
Is the question if you have bad sypmtoms? - go to dr. - or severe symptoms? then you go to ER/Urgent.
Is there any medication that fights the virus - or does the medical care in the hospital just support lung function - seems this virus puts a run on ventilators.
If a mild sore throat and cough - I assume you just stay home?
And eat your stockpiled beans and rice....
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 15, 2020 14:46:48 GMT -5
This is one of the times when living in the country has its perks. Even if I'm forced to self-isolate at home I'll still be able to get outside and have lots of room to go for a hike or ride my horse without being anywhere near anybody (except my kids who I assume would just automatically be in the same boat). It sounds like the mental aspect of being locked away are worse than the physical. Did you reup your chickens after the attack?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 15:00:56 GMT -5
This is one of the times when living in the country has its perks. Even if I'm forced to self-isolate at home I'll still be able to get outside and have lots of room to go for a hike or ride my horse without being anywhere near anybody (except my kids who I assume would just automatically be in the same boat). It sounds like the mental aspect of being locked away are worse than the physical. Did you reup your chickens after the attack? Nope. Still just 3. I get an egg about every other day.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Mar 15, 2020 15:22:43 GMT -5
I am at moderate risk -- over 60, high but controlled BP but otherwise healthy. My concern is DH -- 75, compromised immune system and heart issues. The virus is definitely a bad thing for him. I plan to go to work tomorrow with gloves and a mask, in case Cabin Boy (as I have taken to calling the little twit to decided to go on a cruise this week, rather than get a voucher or a refund) decides to come to work. Boss called, emailed and texted him not to, but his highness thinks he is vital to the office. He does not have a key to the front door (the keys were changed last week) so I can lock him out long enough to collect my stuff, leave my key and go -- exactly what I told my boss I would do if his selfish little butt showed up.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 15, 2020 15:23:57 GMT -5
Did you reup your chickens after the attack? Nope. Still just 3. I get an egg about every other day. so 1 omelet a week? I guess part of your covid prep!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 15, 2020 15:37:12 GMT -5
I am half assed prepared to go into isolation. I am in a currently low risk area. I am planning on preparing the other half of my ass today. I am defrosting the freezer and will go to the store when it is ready to be topped off. I plan on getting powdered milk and am still thinking through what else makes sense for a long term lock down. But to your point. I was also thinking this morning what I should do to help my wife care for a sick me or me a sick her if not bad enough/able to be hospitallized. What might we be able to keep down? Etc. All processing and would appreciate ideas. I don't believe vomiting is a symptom of the virus, but I could be wrong. What I heard is that it is, essentially, a viral pneumonia. But, for upset stomaches, flat ginger ale or Coke, saltines, the BRAT diet: bananas, rice, applesauce, plain toast. For pneumonia, broth, soups, tea with lemon or honey, water for hydration, jello, popsicles, fruit purees, etc. It depends upon how it presents in you. Apparently it affects the GI tract in some people. Here is an article that shows how disparate the symptoms can be. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 15, 2020 15:45:02 GMT -5
I don't really understand the question. The majority who get it do not have severe symptoms. Some don't have any. So - who knows if some us have it and don't even know? Is the question if you have bad sypmtoms? - go to dr. - or severe symptoms? then you go to ER/Urgent. Is there any medication that fights the virus - or does the medical care in the hospital just support lung function - seems this virus puts a run on ventilators. If a mild sore throat and cough - I assume you just stay home? And eat your stockpiled beans and rice.... Another group that I belong to have someone who apparently has it. Here's what she went through. She flew in from a highly infected country recently and the night she got home was not feeling well. She was running a fever, and had a cough. She called her doctor, who told her to call the ER, tell them that she had been exposed to CV19, which she did. They met her outside the ER with PPE and whisked her away from most of the waiting room to isolate her. She was tested every way from Sunday (including a CT of the lungs, which MDs in China were using to help diagnose disease). She was negative for everything else that they tested her for, but they did NOT take samples for CV19 testing. As she did not need hospitalization, she was told that if she had problems breathing, to call them back as she'd need to be hospitalized, but she was to self quarantine in her home for the next 2 weeks. As of a few days ago, this is how this is being treated. She posted she was feeling a little better yesterday, but was doing as instructed.
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Post by oped on Mar 15, 2020 15:49:33 GMT -5
I have picked up some ‘if we get sick’ things but mostly we have waiting it out things like food and cleaning supplies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 15:58:30 GMT -5
I got Tylenol, Immodium and Pepto Bismal just in case. Plus some sort of cold & flu thing, sore throat lozenges, and Gatorade for hydration.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 15, 2020 16:30:26 GMT -5
I don't really understand the question. The majority who get it do not have severe symptoms. Some don't have any. So - who knows if some us have it and don't even know? Is the question if you have bad sypmtoms? - go to dr. - or severe symptoms? then you go to ER/Urgent. Is there any medication that fights the virus - or does the medical care in the hospital just support lung function - seems this virus puts a run on ventilators. If a mild sore throat and cough - I assume you just stay home? And eat your stockpiled beans and rice.... Another group that I belong to have someone who apparently has it. Here's what she went through. She flew in from a highly infected country recently and the night she got home was not feeling well. She was running a fever, and had a cough. She called her doctor, who told her to call the ER, tell them that she had been exposed to CV19, which she did. They met her outside the ER with PPE and whisked her away from most of the waiting room to isolate her. She was tested every way from Sunday (including a CT of the lungs, which MDs in China were using to help diagnose disease). She was negative for everything else that they tested her for, but they did NOT take samples for CV19 testing. As she did not need hospitalization, she was told that if she had problems breathing, to call them back as she'd need to be hospitalized, but she was to self quarantine in her home for the next 2 weeks. As of a few days ago, this is how this is being treated. She posted she was feeling a little better yesterday, but was doing as instructed. so - only seek treatment if breathing difficulties?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 15, 2020 16:32:12 GMT -5
I feel like there should be ice cream trucks going down the streets spot testing or something...
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 15, 2020 17:20:35 GMT -5
Another group that I belong to have someone who apparently has it. Here's what she went through. She flew in from a highly infected country recently and the night she got home was not feeling well. She was running a fever, and had a cough. She called her doctor, who told her to call the ER, tell them that she had been exposed to CV19, which she did. They met her outside the ER with PPE and whisked her away from most of the waiting room to isolate her. She was tested every way from Sunday (including a CT of the lungs, which MDs in China were using to help diagnose disease). She was negative for everything else that they tested her for, but they did NOT take samples for CV19 testing. As she did not need hospitalization, she was told that if she had problems breathing, to call them back as she'd need to be hospitalized, but she was to self quarantine in her home for the next 2 weeks. As of a few days ago, this is how this is being treated. She posted she was feeling a little better yesterday, but was doing as instructed. so - only seek treatment if breathing difficulties? I guess so. I don’t know if they provided her with prescriptions for supportive help. She didn’t mention any.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 15, 2020 17:39:37 GMT -5
If I were currently in the health care industry, I would be doing a bit extra to strengthen my immunity. Make sure you're getting enough Vitamin C, get as much rest as you can (no binge-watching your favorite shows late at night), eat healthier than you might normally, etc. I read an interesting article about the crisis in 1918, before they had antibiotics. They were putting patients, in their hospital beds, outside in the sunshine. It appeared both the sun & fresh air helped in survival rates. Whatever works is a good thing! That’s all well and good, but vitamin c doesn’t work, and if this gets bad, none of us will get much rest
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 15, 2020 17:40:30 GMT -5
so - only seek treatment if breathing difficulties? I guess so. I don’t know if they provided her with prescriptions for supportive help. She didn’t mention any. That would be good info to have to alleviate some of MY anxiety, at least. Are folks being prescribed steroids? Rescue inhalers (we already have a stock of those — would we use them and, if so, when)? Antibiotics for comorbid bacterial infections?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 15, 2020 17:45:43 GMT -5
Another group that I belong to have someone who apparently has it. Here's what she went through. She flew in from a highly infected country recently and the night she got home was not feeling well. She was running a fever, and had a cough. She called her doctor, who told her to call the ER, tell them that she had been exposed to CV19, which she did. They met her outside the ER with PPE and whisked her away from most of the waiting room to isolate her. She was tested every way from Sunday (including a CT of the lungs, which MDs in China were using to help diagnose disease). She was negative for everything else that they tested her for, but they did NOT take samples for CV19 testing. As she did not need hospitalization, she was told that if she had problems breathing, to call them back as she'd need to be hospitalized, but she was to self quarantine in her home for the next 2 weeks. As of a few days ago, this is how this is being treated. She posted she was feeling a little better yesterday, but was doing as instructed. so - only seek treatment if breathing difficulties? Yes. There is NO treatment, so going to hospital or office visit will increase other people’s exposure. So if you have flu symptoms, treatment is symptomatic, and there is little else to be done. If you have shortness of breath, then you may need to be hospitalized, so you should be seen, but call before so they can prepare to minimize exposure
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 15, 2020 17:48:25 GMT -5
I guess so. I don’t know if they provided her with prescriptions for supportive help. She didn’t mention any. That would be good info to have to alleviate some of MY anxiety, at least. Are folks being prescribed steroids? Rescue inhalers (we already have a stock of those — would we use them and, if so, when)? Antibiotics for comorbid bacterial infections? Antibiotics are not indicated and may do more harm than good. Inhalers are only effective if you are wheezing. Use of steroids is unclear, as effectiveness is unknown
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 15, 2020 18:28:17 GMT -5
I don't really understand the question. The majority who get it do not have severe symptoms. Some don't have any. So - who knows if some us have it and don't even know? Is the question if you have bad sypmtoms? - go to dr. - or severe symptoms? then you go to ER/Urgent. Is there any medication that fights the virus - or does the medical care in the hospital just support lung function - seems this virus puts a run on ventilators. If a mild sore throat and cough - I assume you just stay home? And eat your stockpiled beans and rice.... Here is what the OP motivated me to do. It is just my wife and I in the house. I went to the store and purchased a collection of items that would be very low energy to fix - open the can/bag, heat, eat. If one or both are sick but hospital is not an option for whatever reason, this supply is easy calories to consume. We already have a good supply of protein bars. I went to my daughter's place which is two blocks away. I spoke with her and the 16 year old grand daughter. I asked the 16 year old to talk to her mom (who is a disabled smoker) and decide if she would be willing to take the risk of coming over to care of two sick old people if that situation developed. She gave a quick "yes" but I told her she needed to seriously think about it first.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2020 19:47:15 GMT -5
I feel like there should be ice cream trucks going down the streets spot testing or something... I had to eat up a whole lot of Edy's Double Fudge Brownie ice cream for dinner to make room in my freezer. Damn you, coronavirus. Damn you.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 15, 2020 19:53:34 GMT -5
I feel like there should be ice cream trucks going down the streets spot testing or something... I had to eat up a whole lot of Edy's Double Fudge Brownie ice cream for dinner to make room in my freezer. Damn you, coronavirus. Damn you. 😂😂😂 Thanks for taking one for America, Tenn!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 20:01:20 GMT -5
DH and I are tag-teaming at this point. I can't lift the propane tank from the grill to go get a refill and he shouldn't be exposed so he will get the tank of the grill and I'll go have the in-person contact to refill it. Then he'll reinstall the tank on the grill. We're rethinking everything at this point. And that's OK. Time will tell how it turns out.
I was sort of blindsided yesterday by a neighbor who apparently conflated seniors being AT risk with seniors being A risk. He shouted at me to get away because "you old people are carrying the virus." That was tough but that's the future I think.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 15, 2020 20:04:53 GMT -5
DH and I are tag-teaming at this point. I can't lift the propane tank from the grill to go get a refill and he shouldn't be exposed so he will get the tank of the grill and I'll go have the in-person contact to refill it. Then he'll reinstall the tank on the grill. We're rethinking everything at this point. And that's OK. Time will tell how it turns out. I was sort of blindsided yesterday by a neighbor who apparently conflated seniors being AT risk with seniors being A risk. He shouted at me to get away because "you old people are carrying the virus." That was tough but that's the future I think. I’m sorry, but that is kind of funny in a “completely misinformed” kind of way.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 15, 2020 20:43:21 GMT -5
GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl thanks for bringing this up. "...have high blood pressure for which I take Ace Inhibitors for -- the Ace Inhibitors are apparently a risk factor for the virus)". I also am being treated for high blood pressure but take a beta blocker (Metoprolol) and Irbesartan (an ARB). So I researched hypertension drugs and COVID-19.
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