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Post by sesfw on Mar 15, 2020 19:33:28 GMT -5
AZ announced just a couple of hours ago that all schools will remain closed after spring break. I'm sure the state school board will come up with something because ALL the kids will be in the same boat. Maybe 6 weeks of summer school is the answer in just making up the lost time.
Don't know
Most of the 'white collar' workers where I work can do most of their jobs at home. But us peons on the production floor don't have that option. Being electronics most of our base products come from China and I don't know how empty the pipeline is.
It's a sad situation all the way around. Happening too fast.
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Post by movingforward on Mar 15, 2020 19:47:22 GMT -5
People are only going to isolate themselves so much, especially young people. When i think back to my 20 year old self I would have still been going on spring break, etc. I would not have thought twice. Just said to myself that I wouldn't go visit grandma for a bit.
I get young people not understanding the seriousness of the situation. It's the older people not taking it seriously that gets me...of course, I also think it would be seriously difficult to do nothing but stay at home for 8 weeks. Not sure I could do it even if I were over 65. I had one 72 year old board member say to me "if this thing gets me, then it gets me. I'm not going to stop living life."
ETA: And I'm sure this is going to freak the shit out of some people but I had a massage today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 20:29:30 GMT -5
In the UK they are talking 4 months! Damn, that's a long time...
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 16, 2020 0:03:17 GMT -5
AZ announced just a couple of hours ago that all schools will remain closed after spring break. I'm sure the state school board will come up with something because ALL the kids will be in the same boat. Maybe 6 weeks of summer school is the answer in just making up the lost time. Don't know Most of the 'white collar' workers where I work can do most of their jobs at home. But us peons on the production floor don't have that option. Being electronics most of our base products come from China and I don't know how empty the pipeline is. It's a sad situation all the way around. Happening too fast. In my company the white collar workers have been ordered to wfh in order to protect the health of those on the production floor. Whole areas are no longer accesible except by exactly those who need to provide hands on work in that soecific area. This weekend was the first time in my life that I allowed work to intrude my home for more than the occasional email. I am not all together happy about that
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 16, 2020 6:59:05 GMT -5
We won't completely isolate for 8 weeks. We're already making the next grocery list and dh is one of those who can't work from home. He did tell his job he wasn't willing to teach CPR CE classes for the foreseeable future and they finally cancelled those (I mean come on! Let's all use our little tissue to breath on a dummy for 30 minutes and trade off with a quick alcohol swab in the middle of a pandemic so we can keep crossing off our CE hours!) My sister will likely continue to come to our house once a week. She hadn't gotten out of bed since she came over last week so she is a little too good at self isolation.
48 hours in and I'm enjoying the fact that going out to eat isn't an option. I worked most of the weekend but we had a lot of good family time. Dh is going to take the kids hiking this week.
It isn't something I would have chosen but we're going to try to make the most of it. And we are very fortunate. We've always worked opposite shifts to reduce the need for child care. Add in me working from home for the last 2 years and the kids being old enough to be a little independent that we aren't scrambling at all. If dh's job closes that will hurt but we can figure it out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 7:27:43 GMT -5
Most of the 'white collar' workers where I work can do most of their jobs at home. But us peons on the production floor don't have that option. Being electronics most of our base products come from China and I don't know how empty the pipeline is.I'm in electronics as well and while I'm in QA I have SCAs and account managers in my area and overhear things. Everything is still trucking along and we're getting the parts we need. We were prepared for things to be down for over 2 weeks anyhow due to Chinese New Year and there was a lot of stock-piling of inventory towards the end of last year with all the trade wars. We have a facility in Suzhou that reopened a little over a week ago and is running at 80% capacity and most manufacturing in China is starting again they're just struggling with a reduced work force due to many still be quarantined and their own supply chain problems. But, it's ramping up rather than going down.
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Post by tractor on Mar 16, 2020 7:49:15 GMT -5
If there’s a small ray of hope to this whole thing, it’s happening just as spring is starting so it’s easier to get outside, even if you are by yourself. If this was starting in November and we were all isolated over the cold, dark winter, I suspect the suicide rate would also increase.
So, get outside, enjoy some sunshine and fresh air when you can. I’m working from home for at least the next three weeks, but I plan to get outside as much as possible.
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Post by giramomma on Mar 16, 2020 7:54:58 GMT -5
This weekend was the first time in my life that I allowed work to intrude my home for more than the occasional email. I am not all together happy about that Work at the library or coffee shop if they are open? Actually, I'm not kidding, the libraries that I know/use keep wifi on 24/7. You could work in your car outside a library, if need be. (When we went on vacation where there was no cell phone service, everyone-vacationers and locals- would hang out outside the library to check email since wifi was on.)
I can't work at home. Luckily I can go to someone else's home to work.
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Post by movingforward on Mar 16, 2020 8:07:24 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life.
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Post by oped on Mar 16, 2020 8:09:27 GMT -5
Our libraries are closed but at least one specifically gave out their password and said come sit in the parking lot if you need to...
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 16, 2020 8:19:31 GMT -5
Our libraries are closed and coffee shops are take out only.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 16, 2020 8:30:51 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life. It will be okay, movingforward. Any concerns you have post them here. Maybe we can bring back some normalcy to yours and others lives.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 16, 2020 8:47:05 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life. I have moments like that, too, and maybe more than moments. Breathe. Take it minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. One positive aspect is that the good weather is coming. Get outside every sunny day for a healthy dose of Vitamin D — definitely a mood enhancer. Also, gardening is still allowed...😁. Plant something or some things!! 🌞🌱☘️🍀🎍🌾💐🌷🌹🌺🌸🌼🌻🌞
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 16, 2020 9:03:47 GMT -5
Since my CHF last July I have been going to physical rehab. At the hospital until November when I started going to the Y 3 times a week and walking 40+ minutes on non Y days. The Y is still open, with limiting equipment close together and discouraging old people like me from coming. So I'm staying home and walking everyday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 9:05:59 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life. I have moments like that, too, and maybe more than moments. Breathe. Take it minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. One positive aspect is that the good weather is coming. Get outside every sunny day for a healthy dose of Vitamin D — definitely a mood enhancer.
Also, gardening is still allowed...😁. Plant something or some things!! 🌞🌱☘️🍀🎍🌾💐🌷🌹🌺🌸🌼🌻🌞 My older son went out more yesterday than he ever does. He went for a hike in the woods and for a mile run. He was a little stressed over the schools closing after being cooped up for 11 days already and said it made him feel a lot better. He said he's going to work on his mile run time every day as part of his new Covid-19 life. He even went to bed at 9 last night instead of staying up until 1am playing video games...which was a little weird.
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 16, 2020 9:14:11 GMT -5
I have to sign in to work in 5 minutes. Timing for this wfh thingy is actually good as we are having the first real rain of the year (it hasn't been this dry here since the 1850s ) and under normal circumstances that would mean a bear of a commute. Now all I need to do is move my coffeecup from the sofa to the table and log on. Looking for small siver linings here and finding one.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 16, 2020 11:10:00 GMT -5
Time for a walk.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 16, 2020 11:48:08 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life. Same. I am worried about our jobs, I am worried about our parents' business, I am worried about what all this is going to do to the local economy and national economy. I'm fearing we may never recover from this, at least not in our lifetimes. One to two months doesn't sound like a lot and it may be for "the greater good" but is the "greater good" going to be there for all those bartenders, waitresses, movie theater workers, etc that will lose their jobs over this because places can't stay open or have to cut staff to recoup profit losses? And to be honest I am not even convinced this will actually minimize anything. Go ahead and call my heartless over that. I will do what I am told to do but that doesn't mean I am happy about it. I'm worried shitless about the long term non-health related consequences of this.
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 16, 2020 11:52:38 GMT -5
I find this whole thing extremely stressful. Not because I am afraid of the virus but because of the disruption of normal life. Same. I am worried about our jobs, I am worried about our parents' business, I am worried about what all this is going to do to the local economy and national economy. I'm fearing we may never recover from this, at least not in our lifetimes. One to two months doesn't sound like a lot and it may be for "the greater good" but is the "greater good" going to be there for all those bartenders, waitresses, movie theater workers, etc that will lose their jobs over this because places can't stay open or have to cut staff to recoup profit losses? And to be honest I am not even convinced this will actually minimize anything. Go ahead and call my heartless over that. I will do what I am told to do but that doesn't mean I am happy about it. I'm worried shitless about the long term non-health related consequences of this. I think it depends what you call "minimize". It may not impact one bit how many people get it...but it will probably minimize the speed of it. Frankly I think we'd probably be better off economically (while still balancing health) if we simply instituted something to quarantine those most at-risk like the elderly and with health risks and provide them with the things they'd need over the next weeks (grocery delivery, etc) and those of us at low-risk just went about our lives in normal but slightly modified ways.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 16, 2020 11:55:30 GMT -5
Since my CHF last July I have been going to physical rehab. At the hospital until November when I started going to the Y 3 times a week and walking 40+ minutes on non Y days. The Y is still open, with limiting equipment close together and discouraging old people like me from coming. So I'm staying home and walking everyday. After figuring out what was causing the numbness/ nerve pain on my left shoulder-blade, I finally started working out again right before Christmas. I was really starting to make some progress at the gym with the weights/elliptical. I have a few different workouts I also like to do at home, but not a great substitute for these 2 things. Since I was really doing well on the elliptical, I thought that perhaps.... maybe... jogging wouldn't feel as horrible to me. I was able to go 2 minutes, *sigh*. Maybe I'll (very reluctantly) try C25k again. And push-ups. I hate those, too.
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Post by hoops902 on Mar 16, 2020 11:58:26 GMT -5
Since my CHF last July I have been going to physical rehab. At the hospital until November when I started going to the Y 3 times a week and walking 40+ minutes on non Y days. The Y is still open, with limiting equipment close together and discouraging old people like me from coming. So I'm staying home and walking everyday. After figuring out what was causing the numbness/ nerve pain on my left shoulder-blade, I finally started working out again right before Christmas. I was really starting to make some progress at the gym with the weights/elliptical. I have a few different workouts I also like to do at home, but not a great substitute for these 2 things. Since I was really doing well on the elliptical, I thought that perhaps.... maybe... jogging wouldn't feel as horrible to me. I was able to go 2 minutes, *sigh*. Maybe I'll (very reluctantly) try C25k again. And push-ups. I hate those, too. Don't feel bad, there's really very little substitute for running to get you into running shape. It's just...different. Even professional athletes who rehab in the water, on bikes, etc...they all get gassed when they actually have to go back to running. The difference you'll see from your other cardio is that your progress will increase at a faster rate than it otherwise would have once you're back running again.
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 16, 2020 13:26:18 GMT -5
This weekend was the first time in my life that I allowed work to intrude my home for more than the occasional email. I am not all together happy about that Work at the library or coffee shop if they are open? Actually, I'm not kidding, the libraries that I know/use keep wifi on 24/7. You could work in your car outside a library, if need be. (When we went on vacation where there was no cell phone service, everyone-vacationers and locals- would hang out outside the library to check email since wifi was on.)
I can't work at home. Luckily I can go to someone else's home to work.
Someone out there is reading your mind: we received an email this morning specifically discouraging that approach...
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 16, 2020 13:52:49 GMT -5
If there’s a small ray of hope to this whole thing, it’s happening just as spring is starting so it’s easier to get outside, even if you are by yourself. If this was starting in November and we were all isolated over the cold, dark winter, I suspect the suicide rate would also increase. So, get outside, enjoy some sunshine and fresh air when you can. I’m working from home for at least the next three weeks, but I plan to get outside as much as possible. There's a huge park about 3 blocks from my house, and it's largely deserted. I go there with a bag of peanuts to feed the squirrels, and stale bread to feed the birds. It's a nice distraction.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 13:55:54 GMT -5
If there’s a small ray of hope to this whole thing, it’s happening just as spring is starting so it’s easier to get outside, even if you are by yourself. If this was starting in November and we were all isolated over the cold, dark winter, I suspect the suicide rate would also increase. So, get outside, enjoy some sunshine and fresh air when you can. I’m working from home for at least the next three weeks, but I plan to get outside as much as possible. There's a huge park about 3 blocks from my house, and it's largely deserted. I go there with a bag of peanuts to feed the squirrels, and stale bread to feed the birds. It's a nice distraction. The mill town I live in has all the houses built in a circle around some big parks. I read this area was one of the first planned communities, or some such. I haven't seen a single child in the park until today. It made me smile to see them out there having some fun in the fresh air. I know people are freaking out about school, but kids can learn tons of valuable things just from going outdoors or playing on their own. Another positive change we might see on the backside of this crisis?
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 16, 2020 13:56:11 GMT -5
If there’s a small ray of hope to this whole thing, it’s happening just as spring is starting so it’s easier to get outside, even if you are by yourself. If this was starting in November and we were all isolated over the cold, dark winter, I suspect the suicide rate would also increase. So, get outside, enjoy some sunshine and fresh air when you can. I’m working from home for at least the next three weeks, but I plan to get outside as much as possible. I heard somewhere that vitamin D boosts your immune system as well as your mood - so going outside has many benefits. Especially if you can go somewhere in nature and still have social distance.
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Post by finnime on Mar 16, 2020 14:08:14 GMT -5
15 in my county in Maryland now confirmed to be infected. As of 5 p.m. today all bars, restaurants, theaters and gyms are to close. Libraries and parks are already closed, and of course, schools. That was fast!
Went to 2 grocery stores today. Lots of empty shelves in both, but I got the things I wanted at each. Stocking up a little. DH is 70, diabetic and has chronic kidney disease. I don't want to bring home any viral action. So I made sure to get beverages, produce, stuff to make sandwiches and some corned beef and cabbage. Now to walk the dog.
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Post by steph08 on Mar 16, 2020 14:17:29 GMT -5
PA to close all bars, restaurants, non-essential businesses (gyms, hair salons, etc.) by midnight tonight for two weeks. Restaurants take-out only.
Schools closed for two weeks (started today).
Local university has required all students to move out by the 21st - remainder of spring semester to be totally online.
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Post by shanendoah on Mar 16, 2020 14:28:33 GMT -5
Most states are shutting down bars/restaurants as of today to prevent St Patrick's Day crowds. It's a good call.
We're trying to get ahead of it, and WA has passed some emergency unemployment laws, but none of it applies to people who can't go to work because their kids aren't in school. Our University is asking people who can work from home to pull their kids out of the University-sponsored childcare temporarily so that our medical center essential personnel have child-care options if needed.
All gatherings of 50+ people are illegal at the moment. Gatherings of less than 50 are only legal if social distancing is the norm, hand sanitizer is provided, and employees are being regularly screened for the virus.
There will be no in-person classes (K-PhD) through April 24. That said, our campus is not closed. Students are not being kicked out of the dorms. The hope is that most of the students will remain home until classes start in person again. But we can't just close the dorms. We have populations of students who have no "home" to go to, or can't go home (international students). As a state institution, we can't just kick them out to be homeless. That actually aggravates the problem. So we're trying to figure out the best ways to house and feed them.
We have asked that people do not come to campus for the cherry blossoms this year. They normally draw a huge crowd and the quad is not a big space.
City of Seattle has passed a law saying landlords can't start the eviction process for at least a month.
Nationally, I think the government should be doing universal forbearance for everyone with government-owned student loans, SBA guaranteed business loans, etc. Given that Fannie Mae is government-sponsored, they should be highly encouraged to put all of their mortgages in forbearance as well. And we should be encouraging all other lending institutions to do the same. And there should be some form of emergency UBI, recognizing that not everyone who is out of work right now is a W2 employee with UE benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 14:36:27 GMT -5
That said, our campus is not closed. Students are not being kicked out of the dorms. The hope is that most of the students will remain home until classes start in person again. But we can't just close the dorms. We have populations of students who have no "home" to go to, or can't go home (international students). As a state institution, we can't just kick them out to be homeless. That actually aggravates the problem. So we're trying to figure out the best ways to house and feed them.
The schools around here that I'm aware of are keeping the dorms open and at least one dining option. The vast majority went home so the remaining students aren't packed together.
I'm worried about my cousin at Emory and have been trying to get a hold of her as I just found out they are requesting everyone leave. She has absolutely nothing in the way of money and is there on a full scholarship. Without that she has no money for food or an apartment. I'm hoping someone got her a bus ticket back to MN.
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