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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 24, 2020 18:10:12 GMT -5
My friend's daughter started having major symptoms a week ago today. Got tested last Wednesday, I believe. Still no results. They had ruled out the flu right away, so I'm pretty sure it's the CV. Probably still not part of the official tally, which has been skyrocketing in Michigan. She's morbidly obese, but only in her 20's, so I think she'll be okay.
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Post by lynnerself on Mar 24, 2020 18:28:21 GMT -5
And for more interesting news, this is a preprint of a journal article submitted for publication. I had wondered why they were taking so long to come up with a test, as it used to take me less than a couple weeks to put one of these together. This one is nothing special, the hardest part would be finding the positive controls, IMO (I used to screen the blood bank for expired platelets to get positive controls for my testing.....time consuming, but it worked). This assay is horribly simple, nothing special at all. As it is from Mt. Sinai, I wonder how long it is going to take for the FDA to approve it? The cynical part of me hopes that Mt. Sinai held out for lots of $$ for their research program from biological companies who will be putting kits together. Also IMO, knowing who has a positive antibody responses is even more important than looking for th3 virus itself. www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.17.20037713v1Governor Cuomo agrees with you "I also think the FDA should start approving serial-logical testing for coronavirus antibodies and they should do it as soon as possible. What this does is it tests the blood to see if you have antibodies that were created to fight the coronavirus........ Many more people have had the coronavirus than we think, most people have resolved the coronavirus who have had it. How do you know that? You can test and find the antibodies that the body created to fight the virus. If you have that antibody it means you had the virus and you resolved it. Why do you want to know that? Because I want to know who had it, who has the antibody which means they most probably will not get it again and that can help us get our medical staff back to work faster. So it's a different level of testing, but I think the FDA should move as expeditiously as they have before on this type of testing. Find out who had it, who has the antibodies and that will help us, especially on medical staff shortages. "
And epidemiologist Larry Bryant How will we know when we’re through this? "we begin to see large numbers of people—in particular nurses, home health care providers, doctors, policemen, firemen, and teachers who have had the disease—are immune, and we have tested them to know that they are not infectious any longer. And we have a system that identifies them, either a concert wristband or a card with their photograph and some kind of a stamp on it. Then we can be comfortable sending our children back to school, because we know the teacher is not infectious."
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 26, 2020 22:30:52 GMT -5
Message from a cousin tonight. She is in her early 40’s with an 8 year old daughter..
I have been sick and I’m sure it is COVID-19. On Saturday night I discovered I had lost my sense of smell and taste. Then I developed a raging headache and muscle aches. By Monday night it was chills/sweats and a cough too. Tuesday morning I woke up and had shortness of breath, dizziness and confusion. K took me to our Dr. They ruled out flu, told me it’s Coronavirus but I didn’t meet criteria for testing because of my age/health and I was not yet running a fever. I went home and isolated myself from the rest of the family. Yesterday my cough worsened and I developed a fever. I was terrified that things could rapidly worsen and I might die in my sleep. I woke up every hour last night to check my vitals and made K come check on me multiple times. I’ve still been running a fever all day but my energy levels has dramatically improved. I still can’t taste anything but I feel like I’m on the mend.
So here is what I know: the numbers given are vastly under reported because they are not testing so many people that most certainly have it because their symptoms are “mild”
For me, it sucked, was scary, I felt like shit, cried a lot, but honestly the flu I had 6 weeks ago was worse.
Thankfully no one else in my family has shown any signs. We probably all have it/had it but they were able to fight it off better.
(Leaving me wondering how many people she and her family have infected - who may not pull through)
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Post by Tiny on Mar 27, 2020 7:45:15 GMT -5
A sibling in Florida reported having a fever, headache, aches on March 25th. It came on quick in the evening - he had been feeling fine up the day before. They have been 'social distancing' for over a week- but they had been visiting other households and shopping. I doubt he will see a doctor unless he can't breathe. I'm also skeptical that it's the regular flu or allergeries or a "spring cold".
I've got a non work/see once a month for game nite friend who's local, who along with his wife became sick(fever, cough, aches) March 17th (the week before a person on my floor at work became sick and tested positive) My friends didn't get tested - but I'm betting they probably had CV19, too. The work from home orders/school shut downs happened March 16th.
If I had to extrapolate from incomplete data -- I'm guessing my City/State started the "stay at home" orders because the virus was circulating so widely which means a lot of people at home right now either had it and/or gave it to the rest of their household. It's been 2 weeks since the "work from home/stay home" thing started. I'm guessing in another 14 days will be the end of the 'quarentine" for the at home people who became sick (or who had it but didn't get sick). Hmmm, that puts us at Easter. So, it appears my local government is perhaps making reasonable judgements/decisions about the virus. Maybe we could have gone "stay home" a week sooner... but atleast it looks like we all "went to ground" when it still mattered.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 27, 2020 9:14:35 GMT -5
And for more interesting news, this is a preprint of a journal article submitted for publication. I had wondered why they were taking so long to come up with a test, as it used to take me less than a couple weeks to put one of these together. This one is nothing special, the hardest part would be finding the positive controls, IMO (I used to screen the blood bank for expired platelets to get positive controls for my testing.....time consuming, but it worked). This assay is horribly simple, nothing special at all. As it is from Mt. Sinai, I wonder how long it is going to take for the FDA to approve it? The cynical part of me hopes that Mt. Sinai held out for lots of $$ for their research program from biological companies who will be putting kits together. Also IMO, knowing who has a positive antibody responses is even more important than looking for th3 virus itself. www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.17.20037713v1Governor Cuomo agrees with you "I also think the FDA should start approving serial-logical testing for coronavirus antibodies and they should do it as soon as possible. What this does is it tests the blood to see if you have antibodies that were created to fight the coronavirus........ Many more people have had the coronavirus than we think, most people have resolved the coronavirus who have had it. How do you know that? You can test and find the antibodies that the body created to fight the virus. If you have that antibody it means you had the virus and you resolved it. Why do you want to know that? Because I want to know who had it, who has the antibody which means they most probably will not get it again and that can help us get our medical staff back to work faster. So it's a different level of testing, but I think the FDA should move as expeditiously as they have before on this type of testing. Find out who had it, who has the antibodies and that will help us, especially on medical staff shortages. "
And epidemiologist Larry Bryant How will we know when we’re through this? "we begin to see large numbers of people—in particular nurses, home health care providers, doctors, policemen, firemen, and teachers who have had the disease—are immune, and we have tested them to know that they are not infectious any longer. And we have a system that identifies them, either a concert wristband or a card with their photograph and some kind of a stamp on it. Then we can be comfortable sending our children back to school, because we know the teacher is not infectious."
Makes sense to me. If they can identify people who have had it, we could begin commerce again, slowly. Maybe just the people who have the antibodies are allowed out and about. Or not. What the hell do I know? I'm an accountant.
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Post by sesfw on Mar 27, 2020 10:52:43 GMT -5
Or not. What the hell do I know? I'm an accountant.
I'm an electronics tech ..........
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 27, 2020 11:19:31 GMT -5
A woman who used to live in our neighborhood but moved to the other side of the resort went on a cruise to Panama. She was the single darling of the neighbors. When I asked why she and SO went on a cruise in the middle of this, they said oh it's Panama. Like no big deal. Well,
The ship was quarantined. When they reached San Diego, she flew home to Canada to self-quarantine another 14 days. He came here. I hope he stays away from everyone. Rumor came to me that someone at a home bridge game tested positive. Before I told too many people, I called. This was a fourth hand information. So, H. goes around asking people if they heard anything. Spreading the rumor further. Doh. H. said HOA would tell us if there were cases here. Maybe. This county has the most cases in AZ.
So far, just rumors. My home state, the county we live in have the most cases. Saw on TV a woman started Survivor Corp to test antibodies and let people return to work.
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Post by jerseygirl on Mar 27, 2020 11:35:15 GMT -5
Worldwide universities and pharma companies working on developing test to detect antibodies to CV in people who have recovered. Need a quick simple test like pregnancy test and get a certificate that now immune Testing general population for the actual Covid 19 is a rat hole. The entire population of the US could be tested and the negatives might test positive the next week. Sure it’s very helpful to determine spread in populations in cities and states. China was VERY aggressive in quarantining everyone with positive- chasing down and dragging them into the big temporary hospitals or even nailing the doors shut Not going to happen in the US
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 27, 2020 17:14:42 GMT -5
My youngest nephew is presumed to have COVID-19. Diagnosis over the phone, 14 day quarantine, call if you get worse.
He doesn't qualify for a test.
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Post by jerseygirl on Mar 27, 2020 17:32:27 GMT -5
My youngest nephew is presumed to have COVID-19. Diagnosis over the phone, 14 day quarantine, call if you get worse. He doesn't qualify for a test. Would a positive test for CV change his treatment? Probably not When a test for antibodies to CV is developed this will have potential uses. Might allow people with immunity to go back to work, no worries about quarantine, less worry about the second wave that is probably coming
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 27, 2020 17:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by lynnerself on Mar 27, 2020 20:34:53 GMT -5
Big news store on ABC tonight about using plasma from recovered patients to treat active cases. It showed the antibody testing being developed at Mt. Sinai. To be eligible for the study you need to have a positive test and be 21 past any symptoms. Mount Sinai to Begin the Transfer of COVID-19 Antibodies into Critically Ill Patients
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Post by crazycat on Apr 8, 2020 15:56:31 GMT -5
We are now in quarantine. My son , who works at a grocery store has a few of the symptoms. Dr told hm to quarantine and he went to get the test this morning . So we shall see .
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 8, 2020 15:58:10 GMT -5
We are now in quarantine. My son , who works at a grocery store has a few of the symptoms. Dr told hm to quarantine and he went to get the test this morning . So we shall see . 🤞🙏
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 23:09:06 GMT -5
All the confirmed cases of Covid19 in my county are contained within a single nursing home. Two of my coworkers have family there. One lost his mom yesterday to it and the other one just posted on Facebook this evening that her 104 year old grandmother is officially a Covid 19 survivor having tested negative twice now after being ill with it for 3 weeks.
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Post by Regis on Apr 9, 2020 6:47:58 GMT -5
We have a friend who has been on a ventilator for 11 days now. She's 60 and a healthcare worker. She's improving but it's very small increments each day.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Apr 9, 2020 7:06:23 GMT -5
My husband's co-worker's husband, who was a good friend of ours long before his wife started working with DH has been admitted into the hospital with pneumonia. He spent a lot of time with her last week. Not a happy day in the house of thyme today. How is your friend doing?
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Post by vonna on Apr 9, 2020 7:14:15 GMT -5
We found out yesterday we lost a high school friend of my DH to coronavirus. We are devastated. He was in his 50's, and no health issues that we know of. Very active in his community -- many are grieving.
Sadly, his mother died the same day. She was elderly and frail. DH has many fond memories of her as well.
So many losses across the globe. Just so sad. . .
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Post by TheOtherMe on Apr 9, 2020 7:35:04 GMT -5
So sorry.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 9, 2020 7:37:47 GMT -5
We found out yesterday we lost a high school friend of my DH to coronavirus. We are devastated. He was in his 50's, and no health issues that we know of. Very active in his community -- many are grieving. Sadly, his mother died the same day. She was elderly and frail. DH has many fond memories of her as well. So many losses across the globe. Just so sad. . . I’m so sorry. The virus is indiscriminate, isn’t it?
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Post by saveinla on Apr 9, 2020 8:26:39 GMT -5
Sorry for your loss vonna.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 9, 2020 14:09:06 GMT -5
My husband's co-worker's husband, who was a good friend of ours long before his wife started working with DH has been admitted into the hospital with pneumonia. He spent a lot of time with her last week. Not a happy day in the house of thyme today. How is your friend doing? Home and recovering. And his wife and kids were tested and came back negative, so lots of good news all around.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 20, 2020 10:26:52 GMT -5
Not my experience but found this article interesting. Sisters die 102 years apart from two separate global pandemicsA pair of sisters have died from two separate global pandemics, over a century apart, according to a report on Friday. Selma Esther Ryan died Tuesday from the coronavirus at an assisted living facility in Austin, Tx., three days after celebrating her 96th birthday. Her death comes after her older sister, Esther -- who she never met -- died at the age of five during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic. Complete article here: Sisters die 102 years apart from two separate global pandemics
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 20, 2020 10:35:53 GMT -5
Not my experience but found this article interesting. Sisters die 102 years apart from two separate global pandemicsA pair of sisters have died from two separate global pandemics, over a century apart, according to a report on Friday. Selma Esther Ryan died Tuesday from the coronavirus at an assisted living facility in Austin, Tx., three days after celebrating her 96th birthday. Her death comes after her older sister, Esther -- who she never met -- died at the age of five during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic. Complete article here: Sisters die 102 years apart from two separate global pandemicsWow. On a related note, I saw a story about a 102 year old woman who survived both the 1918 Spanish Flu AND a bout with Covid-19. I hope someone snagged a bunch of HER antibodies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 18:24:10 GMT -5
Aww man, she died today, 12 days after recovering from Covid.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 22, 2020 19:01:10 GMT -5
Just found out that 5 people died in a nursing home and assisted living place really close to my house. About a mile for one, and maybe another 1/3 mile for the other.
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Post by crazycat on Apr 22, 2020 21:14:16 GMT -5
I had to get tested last week , got results back next day - negative . Email did say results are not 100% accurate , that the virus was not found in my test and that the testing does have its limits . Whatever . My son was still waiting for his results . Found out yesterday, they lost his . He had to go back and get tested again . Ugh
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 23, 2020 7:52:09 GMT -5
Aww man, she died today, 12 days after recovering from Covid. 🥀💔
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 23, 2020 10:09:54 GMT -5
Aww man, she died today, 12 days after recovering from Covid. If you get a bad case of Covid, I think it is extremely hard on your body. Recovery comes in two phases. No active virus, and the body is healed.
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