So, what’s the protocol now?

[billisonboard]

Mar 13, 2020 12:47:52 GMT -5 alabamagal said:

... Not an expert, but I feel like people working from home (e-mail, documents, etc.) will be much less of a strain on the system than everyone being at home trying to stream Netflix.
...

I must "work from home" differently than other people.

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

According to The Washington Post and ESPN, the NCAA is going to extend eligibility for student athletes impacted by Corona Virus. Details still have to be worked out by the NCAA, but my son is NOT done with college lacrosse after all!!!

This adds another dimension to my decision about tomorrow— it is not as urgent as I first feared...

The NCAA is also working on finding ways to restore March Madness and Winter sport championships after the virus is squelched.

[billisonboard]

Mar 13, 2020 15:29:50 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

According to The Washington Post and ESPN, the NCAA is going to extend eligibility for student athletes impacted by Corona Virus. Details still have to be worked out by the NCAA, but my son is NOT done with college lacrosse after all!!!

This adds another dimension to my decision about tomorrow— it is not as urgent as I first feared...

The NCAA is also working on finding ways to restore March Madness and Winter sport championships after the virus is squelched.

June Jubilation?

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

Mar 13, 2020 15:33:26 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Mar 13, 2020 15:29:50 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

According to The Washington Post and ESPN, the NCAA is going to extend eligibility for student athletes impacted by Corona Virus. Details still have to be worked out by the NCAA, but my son is NOT done with college lacrosse after all!!!

This adds another dimension to my decision about tomorrow— it is not as urgent as I first feared...

The NCAA is also working on finding ways to restore March Madness and Winter sport championships after the virus is squelched.

June Jubilation?

I like it!!

[Deleted]

On Monday, we are scheduled to tour an out of state university that DBF’s oldest daughter is considering attending.

The university *I* thought we were touring, posted on their website Wednesday that they are postponing all scheduled visits. The correct University has posted nothing of the sort, even though they’ve posted that they are going online with their classes. DBF called this morning and they are still doing the visits and tours as scheduled next week. Kinda doesn’t make sense to me that they don’t want their students out and about on campus, but they’re ok with people traveling from wherever to spend at least 5 hours here, there, and everywhere on the campus.

I’d really prefer not to go. Not just me, but DBF who I live with, or his girls, who are at our house just about every day. I’d prefer that nobody go right now. Borderline germaphobe that I am, I’m already kind of leery about staying in places that are open to the public like hotels, and I’m even more leery under the current conditions and knowing that people that have/had this new, apparently highly contagious  virus or been exposed to it have still gone on with their lives, including going to work and being out and about and even traveled.... and staying in public places, like hotels.

But I’d look like an ass if I insisted that DBF not go (not that he would cooperate anyway), and I certainly have no say concerning whether his daughters go. I can fully admit that I tend to be a worrier, and also still admit that I have some real concerns (valid or not, they are REAL to me) about this trip and I really wish the college would’ve just postponed it all.

I do NOT want to be unnecessarily at risk for catching that shit, for my own sake, and even more importantly because I don’t want to risk passing it to my 69yo mother when at the very least it would be complicated and costly, if not impossible, for me to completely stay away from her for several weeks.

[oped]

New protocol question. 

So you know I went on the train and museum to the city this week. There are also rumors that the local college closed so abruptly and aggressively because someone was directly exposed and then came into campus.  Daughter has been hanging out with her friends who are professor's kids all week... etc. 

There is a bridal shower tomorrow for my cousin. My 83 year old grandmother will be there.  Realistically they shouldn't take her because anyone there could potentially be carrying, so to speak.  And I have no symptoms nor any reason to suspect I might have been exposed, except that we haven't really been careful. 

I so wish this thing didn't have a 2 week period where you could be contagious and not know you have it...  I just feel like I shouldn't go near my grandmother if its even a possibility. 

Am I being too weird about this? Not weird enough?  I'd rather miss the shower than have grandma miss the wedding... 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

We're staying away from my in laws. I recognize I can't control their lives they could easily catch it some place else.

However DH would be unable to live with himself if we exposed them so I suggested no contact on our end. The phone and Facebook work just fine for now.

So do what you think is best for your peace of mind.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Mar 13, 2020 10:44:38 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

I plan to only do grocery shopping and go in the early hours when it's usually me and a handful of people.

I plan to keep therapy appointments.  If I go and half the waiting room is coughing, I will tell the receptionist I am leaving and why.

I am high risk and I'm not taking chances.

Have tickets for a concert at the casino next weekend.  Ticket cost less than $40.  Most likely will not be going.

You might want to rethink that.  I was at the store first thing this morning thinking I’d have the grocery store to myself.  Yeah.....there were no carts, not a good sign.  It was nuts.

TD did get to Costco about his prescriptions.  He picked up a carton of half and half......and bought me flowers.  He said the parking lot was still packed.

[Deleted]

Mar 13, 2020 19:55:41 GMT -5 oped said:

New protocol question. 

So you know I went on the train and museum to the city this week. There are also rumors that the local college closed so abruptly and aggressively because someone was directly exposed and then came into campus.  Daughter has been hanging out with her friends who are professor's kids all week... etc. 

There is a bridal shower tomorrow for my cousin. My 83 year old grandmother will be there.  Realistically they shouldn't take her because anyone there could potentially be carrying, so to speak.  And I have no symptoms nor any reason to suspect I might have been exposed, except that we haven't really been careful. 

I so wish this thing didn't have a 2 week period where you could be contagious and not know you have it...  I just feel like I shouldn't go near my grandmother if its even a possibility. 

Am I being too weird about this? Not weird enough?  I'd rather miss the shower than have grandma miss the wedding... 

If I were the Ruler of everything, I’d probably focus on trying to keep Grandma from going to the shower vs debating whether I should go or not. You almost certainly aren’t the only person that will be at the shower that hasn’t really been careful, so you being the only one trying to be considerate by not attending the shower in an effort to protect her probably won’t do much good. 

I would think attending the wedding would be more important to her than attending the bridal shower if she had to choose, and choosing is exactly what I would try to get her to do. IF I were the Ruler of everything, which unfortunately, I am not.

Nope, I don’t think you are being weird. I think it is up to the younger and healthier of us that have a better chance of a mostly uneventful recovery if we DO get sick, to not only take precautions for our own sakes, but to also be mindful of not unnecessarily putting people at risk who are, for whatever reason, more vulnerable than we are to getting sick from the virus and suffering greatly or even dying if they are exposed to it.

[giramomma]

Mar 13, 2020 19:55:41 GMT -5 oped said:

New protocol question. 

So you know I went on the train and museum to the city this week. There are also rumors that the local college closed so abruptly and aggressively because someone was directly exposed and then came into campus.  Daughter has been hanging out with her friends who are professor's kids all week... etc. 

There is a bridal shower tomorrow for my cousin. My 83 year old grandmother will be there.  Realistically they shouldn't take her because anyone there could potentially be carrying, so to speak.  And I have no symptoms nor any reason to suspect I might have been exposed, except that we haven't really been careful. 

I so wish this thing didn't have a 2 week period where you could be contagious and not know you have it...  I just feel like I shouldn't go near my grandmother if its even a possibility. 

Am I being too weird about this? Not weird enough?  I'd rather miss the shower than have grandma miss the wedding... 

I would protect grandma.

My ils have offered to help us out. I know that there are two cases on our college campus, though one is not public yet. I don't want to take them up..when FIL gets a cold, it goes right to his chest. I mean I appreciate it. But, I'd rather struggle mentally/emotionally than have them struggle physically.

[oped]

I've decided we aren't going to go. We are going to go Sunday to grab daughter's stuff from her dorm, and then we are hunkering down here. Husband will probably work because he's working for a couple very close to home and really doesn't see anyone. The rest of us will work on things from the house. We will do our part and reassess in a week or two as things progress or not. 

[OldCoyote]

Mar 13, 2020 7:52:24 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I don't know.  We are supposed to go to Myrtle Beach on the 20th and I am about 95% sure I am going to cancel.  Based on my reading, Hilton is waiving all cancellation penalties and giving credit for future trips.  I do not want to put myself or my family into a position where we are around a lot of people over the next few weeks.  there are certain things we can't avoid but this is easy to avoid.  BF is leaving it up to me to do what I'm comfortable with.  But he is also not telling me that I'm panicking over nothing, which tells me he is concerned, too.

Miss T, Right now there are 10 known cases, in all of AZ, out of how many millions?

It is not stopping me from doing anything, I probably stand a better chance of getting struck by lightning!!

Beside that, if I wear my camo and bullet proof vest, no one comes close to me any way!!

[oped]

Only 10 in all of AZ... and 2 out of Mar A Lago last weekend... hmmm. 

[teen persuasion]

Was chatting with DS4 thru messenger this evening - he's heard back from the census about a job, but wondering what will even happen with the virus situation.

His university has shut down face to face classes and moved to online going forward. He's planning on staying on campus, everything is still open (library, labs, bookstore, etc.), his roommates are all planning on staying (one going home for a few days over break, then returning). He said lots of international students are stuck, don't have $ for plane tickets home. His thought process is that his age group isn't badly affected, and getting it is when, not if. I pointed out that he could transmit it to others that are in an at-risk group, like his 89 yo grandfather.

Actually, it's the entire state university system that has shifted to online, SUNY, CUNY, and all the CCs. There's no confirmed cases in our region, but one in #3 city 50 miles east, and one in St. Catherine's, Ont just west, so it's just a matter of time. Our local school district is gearing up for the musical next weekend; I'm waiting to hear it's cancelled, but not yet...

The big city school district in #2 city south of us just announced they are closing Monday, reopening Tuesday to hand out packets with 3 weeks work (and chromebooks, meds, hotspots...). They'll reassess Tuesday night whether to close or remain open Wednesday based on current situation then. They plan on continuing meals, since so many depend on them, either pick-up or possibly delivery. Also figuring out how to provide health services for those that rely on school based services. They are acknowledging how much this population relies on the school system for, beyond education.

The region has cancelled most stuff: all the St Paddy's day parades, BPO, live theaters, sports, Home show, etc. The governor and local leaders have banned large gatherings (500 or 250), and suggested smaller venues should cut their numbers in half (100 seat restaurant, only allow 50). Religious groups are canceling services at least to the end of the month (not all, but several denominations).

Libraries are struggling with staying open to serve WFH and college students who might not have Wi-Fi, vs are we just creating a network to spread this? Hint - we wouldn't be offended if you all just stayed home and used Hoopla/Libby/RBDigital instead of physical books/dvds/magazines. Spectrum even offered free internet service for homes with students who don't have it now.

[lynnerself]

Monday should be a beautiful day to ski. We're trying to asses the risk. If we just  avoid the indoors (lunch, bar etc)

I don't know if the slopes will be empty, or full of college kid who are out of school.

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

Karma is a bitch, but perhaps a benevolent bitch?

My dog got very sick yesterday. He has had diarrhea at least 10 times since yesterday morning, including 3 trips in the middle of last night.

So, DH is on his way to the game and I’ll be taking the pup to the vet.

I’ll miss the game (not sure if anyone will be on campus to live stream it) but won’t risk exposing myself or someone else with the virus...until DH and the kids come home.

Not sure how to feel — cheated? Relieved?

[Lizard Queen]

Mar 13, 2020 21:33:46 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Mar 13, 2020 7:52:24 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I don't know.  We are supposed to go to Myrtle Beach on the 20th and I am about 95% sure I am going to cancel.  Based on my reading, Hilton is waiving all cancellation penalties and giving credit for future trips.  I do not want to put myself or my family into a position where we are around a lot of people over the next few weeks.  there are certain things we can't avoid but this is easy to avoid.  BF is leaving it up to me to do what I'm comfortable with.  But he is also not telling me that I'm panicking over nothing, which tells me he is concerned, too.

Miss T, Right now there are 10 known cases, in all of AZ, out of how many millions?

It is not stopping me from doing anything, I probably stand a better chance of getting struck by lightning!!

Beside that, if I wear my camo and bullet proof vest, no one comes close to me any way!!

The problem is the lag in knowing about the cases, and the fact so many others wouldn't be tested at all. Meanwhile, people are out and about spreading the virus unknowingly. There were 3 all of a sudden in the city my husband commutes to, and they could have spread it to others a week ago. If they did, then if those people have been out and about coming into contact with many other people over the span of a week, there could be all kinda of people who have it and don't even know it. The virus can live on surfaces for up to a week, so now it doesn't even matter if they've come into contact with another person at the same time, but they cough into their hand and touch something, others can get it from touching that days later.

[zibazinski]

Jersey Boys in canceled tonight and hockey is canceled for tomorrow afternoon. That was my weekend plan. Now I think I’ll take a long walk on the beach and eat some dinner along the way.

[giramomma]

Mar 14, 2020 6:59:48 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

Mar 13, 2020 21:33:46 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Miss T, Right now there are 10 known cases, in all of AZ, out of how many millions?

It is not stopping me from doing anything, I probably stand a better chance of getting struck by lightning!!

Beside that, if I wear my camo and bullet proof vest, no one comes close to me any way!!

The problem is the lag in knowing about the cases, and the fact so many others wouldn't be tested at all. Meanwhile, people are out and about spreading the virus unknowingly. There were 3 all of a sudden in the city my husband commutes to, and they could have spread it to others a week ago. If they did, then if those people have been out and about coming into contact with many other people over the span of a week, there could be all kinda of people who have it and don't even know it. The virus can live on surfaces for up to a week, so now it doesn't even matter if they've come into contact with another person at the same time, but they cough into their hand and touch something, others can get it from touching that days later.

This. The official tally is behind what is actually being diagnosed.

[OldCoyote]

Mar 14, 2020 6:59:48 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

Mar 13, 2020 21:33:46 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Miss T, Right now there are 10 known cases, in all of AZ, out of how many millions?

It is not stopping me from doing anything, I probably stand a better chance of getting struck by lightning!!

Beside that, if I wear my camo and bullet proof vest, no one comes close to me any way!!

The problem is the lag in knowing about the cases, and the fact so many others wouldn't be tested at all. Meanwhile, people are out and about spreading the virus unknowingly. There were 3 all of a sudden in the city my husband commutes to, and they could have spread it to others a week ago. If they did, then if those people have been out and about coming into contact with many other people over the span of a week, there could be all kinda of people who have it and don't even know it. The virus can live on surfaces for up to a week, so now it doesn't even matter if they've come into contact with another person at the same time, but they cough into their hand and touch something, others can get it from touching that days later.

 If what you are saying is probably is true,  We will get the Corona virus, no matter what!

Wow just think that Amazon package we received by special delivery from China, could have the virus on it in it!!

If it can survive 7 day on a surface, how long could it survive under ideal conditions?

[TheOtherMe]

Mar 13, 2020 20:16:00 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Mar 13, 2020 10:44:38 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

I plan to only do grocery shopping and go in the early hours when it's usually me and a handful of people.

I plan to keep therapy appointments.  If I go and half the waiting room is coughing, I will tell the receptionist I am leaving and why.

I am high risk and I'm not taking chances.

Have tickets for a concert at the casino next weekend.  Ticket cost less than $40.  Most likely will not be going.

You might want to rethink that.  I was at the store first thing this morning thinking I’d have the grocery store to myself.  Yeah.....there were no carts, not a good sign.  It was nuts.

TD did get to Costco about his prescriptions.  He picked up a carton of half and half......and bought me flowers.  He said the parking lot was still packed.

I live in the middle of nowhere.  My sister said shopping yesterday was no different than any other Friday.  

I regularly shop at two stores.  One is in a town of 5000 people and the other in a town of 50000 people.  The one in the small town will be fine.

She did say the store was out of toilet paper.

[Lizard Queen]

Mar 14, 2020 9:05:06 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Mar 14, 2020 6:59:48 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

The problem is the lag in knowing about the cases, and the fact so many others wouldn't be tested at all. Meanwhile, people are out and about spreading the virus unknowingly. There were 3 all of a sudden in the city my husband commutes to, and they could have spread it to others a week ago. If they did, then if those people have been out and about coming into contact with many other people over the span of a week, there could be all kinda of people who have it and don't even know it. The virus can live on surfaces for up to a week, so now it doesn't even matter if they've come into contact with another person at the same time, but they cough into their hand and touch something, others can get it from touching that days later.

 If what you are saying is probably is true,  We will get the Corona virus, no matter what!

Wow just think that Amazon package we received by special delivery from China, could have the virus on it in it!!

If it can survive 7 day on a surface, how long could it survive under ideal conditions?

Actually, I think it was 6 days, but yeah, it could get on your Amazon packages from the handlers of it. I'm not sure it can last longer than 6 days under any circumstances.

They are trying to slow down the spread of it so they have enough hospital capacity for people who need it. If they don't, people will be dying in the halls because there's not nearly enough beds/staff/equipment. I did read that there might be a possible treatment from some other disease with similar symptoms. Slowing the spread down allows time to find and distribute that sort of thing.

I'm younger (as far as the mortality rate is concerned), and most of my older family members are dead and gone, so I'm not so worried about myself or my own family, but I'm trying to go out in public as little as possible just to help out the overall cause.

[billisonboard]

Mar 14, 2020 9:05:06 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

... Wow just think that Amazon package we received by special delivery from China, could have the virus on it in it!!

So be careful to not touch it and then touch your face until you wash your hands. And wipe down any surface the packaging and product touches. Probably a good thing to do even if the package isn't from CHINA!!

[Lizard Queen]

My boss in a meeting yesterday said the spray on disinfectants work better than the wipes, because it stays on longer and doesn't spread the virus. Just something to keep in mind.

[Deleted]

Mar 14, 2020 9:05:06 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Mar 14, 2020 6:59:48 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

The problem is the lag in knowing about the cases, and the fact so many others wouldn't be tested at all. Meanwhile, people are out and about spreading the virus unknowingly. There were 3 all of a sudden in the city my husband commutes to, and they could have spread it to others a week ago. If they did, then if those people have been out and about coming into contact with many other people over the span of a week, there could be all kinda of people who have it and don't even know it. The virus can live on surfaces for up to a week, so now it doesn't even matter if they've come into contact with another person at the same time, but they cough into their hand and touch something, others can get it from touching that days later.

 If what you are saying is probably is true,  We will get the Corona virus, no matter what!

Wow just think that Amazon package we received by special delivery from China, could have the virus on it in it!!

If it can survive 7 day on a surface, how long could it survive under ideal conditions?

The point of all of this being careful and cancelling things is to SLOW the spread, not stop it (although that would be really nice).  We don't want all the critical patients hitting the hospitals at the same time because they just couldn't handle it. 

[raeoflyte]

Mar 14, 2020 10:00:37 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

My boss in a meeting yesterday said the spray on disinfectants work better than the wipes, because it stays on longer and doesn't spread the virus. Just something to keep in mind.

I don't get the wipe obsession. Im miles away from a zero waste life, but far enough into it to realize some convenience items aren't even that convenient.

[Deleted]

Mar 14, 2020 10:08:05 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Mar 14, 2020 10:00:37 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

My boss in a meeting yesterday said the spray on disinfectants work better than the wipes, because it stays on longer and doesn't spread the virus. Just something to keep in mind.

I don't get the wipe obsession. Im miles away from a zero waste life, but far enough into it to realize some convenience items aren't even that convenient.

I like using them to wipe down my kitchen counter that we eat off of and for at my desk at work.   If I sprayed them I'd still have to use something to wipe up after, so either a paper towel or a rag that would need to go in the laundry.  Having said that, I'll run out and not replace them for long stretches.

[wvugurl26]

I use them in the kitchen and at work for my desk. They last awhile with just two of us. I buy a warehouse club size pack when there's a sale/coupon. We have plenty. I buy maybe one pack a year?

[billisonboard]

Mar 14, 2020 6:12:35 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

Karma is a bitch, but perhaps a benevolent bitch?

My dog got very sick yesterday. He has had diarrhea at least 10 times since yesterday morning, including 3 trips in the middle of last night.

So, DH is on his way to the game and I’ll be taking the pup to the vet.

I’ll miss the game (not sure if anyone will be on campus to live stream it) but won’t risk exposing myself or someone else with the virus...until DH and the kids come home.

Not sure how to feel — cheated? Relieved?

Yeah, looks like my evening to the theater might not happen because of a late season snow fall that my wife doesn't want to travel through.

[raeoflyte]

Mar 14, 2020 10:18:49 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 14, 2020 10:08:05 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

I don't get the wipe obsession. Im miles away from a zero waste life, but far enough into it to realize some convenience items aren't even that convenient.

I like using them to wipe down my kitchen counter that we eat off of and for at my desk at work.   If I sprayed them I'd still have to use something to wipe up after, so either a paper towel or a rag that would need to go in the laundry.  Having said that, I'll run out and not replace them for long stretches.

I do cleaning rag laundry every 3-4 weeks. That was a painless switch for me to reduce waste.

But I always felt like the point of cleaning with chemicals was to let them set for a bit so that I didn't have to work hard on the actual cleaning and you don't get that with wipes.