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Post by lynnerself on Feb 25, 2020 23:51:32 GMT -5
Have you changed any of your travel plans for this year because of this outbreak. We are still looking at 4 trips this year. (One to Europe, one to Hawaii and 2 closer to home.) But currently almost all reservations have cancellations allowed.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 26, 2020 0:14:25 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 26, 2020 0:39:29 GMT -5
We had a trip to China canceled. We are still going to Fiji in May and Scotland in September.
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Post by alabamagal on Feb 26, 2020 6:18:01 GMT -5
Were going to Phoenix in a week and a half. No worries now.
I am a little more worried about DD and DGD traveling from Germany to Oregon then coming to visit us in Kentucky to cost us before going back to Germany. Not hot spots for now but a lot of travel. But DD is really looking forward to trip as she is alone there while her DH is on 6 month deployment. It will be good for DD mental health. And of course both sets of grandparents get to visit with DGD.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Feb 26, 2020 7:36:38 GMT -5
No, haven't really gone anywhere the last 2 years. And until we finish the house nothing is on the slate. Maybe it will improve by then. Or with my mobility issues, I may not be going much anyway.
But I would be concerned about traveling in other countries for awhile.
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Post by plugginaway22 on Feb 26, 2020 7:37:02 GMT -5
Had not booked anything yet, but was hoping for Italy in September. May pick someplace else.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 26, 2020 7:37:42 GMT -5
It has not changed my plans. We are going to Indianapolis in April, Orlando in May and the Bahamas in November. Possibly Barbados in January. I will probably go to Myrtle Beach at least once to see my family. Maybe twice.
Our summer vacation has yet to be decided. Asia is way far down on our priority list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 8:42:26 GMT -5
My concern is the airports. ATL is the busiest in the world; ORD the sixth busiest. How many thousands of people who have no symptoms will I come in contact with?
ETA: Just heard on the news that Delta is waiving "some" change fees on flights to Italy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 8:54:05 GMT -5
It has not changed my plans. We are going to Indianapolis in April, Orlando in May and the Bahamas in November. Possibly Barbados in January. I will probably go to Myrtle Beach at least once to see my family. Maybe twice. Our summer vacation has yet to be decided. Asia is way far down on our priority list. By Summer Asia may not even be the hot spot. It's cropping up all over now.
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Post by steph08 on Feb 26, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5
My 5yo DD and I are scheduled to go out to Colorado next month, and I am slightly worried about possible exposure at the airports. We are flying Southwest, so I can cancel at the last minute without any fees, so I am definitely keeping that in mind.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 26, 2020 10:04:53 GMT -5
Does anyone know the average age of people who have died from Covid 19? It seems that (like the flu) a healthy adult under 60 is likely to recover. It is those old people who tend to have a harder time fighting this stuff.
Wash your hands often everyone.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 26, 2020 10:08:12 GMT -5
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Post by haapai on Feb 26, 2020 10:17:20 GMT -5
It hasn't affected my plans yet but that could change. We have a family reunion scheduled for August and several of the attendees are in their seventies or late sixties. To the best of my knowledge, none of them have the types of underlying health conditions that make them particularly likely to die if they contract COVID-19.
I'm definitely thinking of COVID-19 as something that will get here and will be similar to a cold for most people but much more serious for older and frailer folks. Perhaps we should be making plans to isolate our elderly folks for several months so that we, the active out-and-about young people, don't give this disease to them.
I worry a bit about my grandmother in assisted living. The place is quite small but the only way to keep this disease out may be to lock the staff in. That's unlikely to happen.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 26, 2020 10:23:21 GMT -5
It has not changed my plans. We are going to Indianapolis in April, Orlando in May and the Bahamas in November. Possibly Barbados in January. I will probably go to Myrtle Beach at least once to see my family. Maybe twice. Our summer vacation has yet to be decided. Asia is way far down on our priority list. By Summer Asia may not even be the hot spot. It's cropping up all over now. This. We had not planned to travel internationally this year. Plan is to take the travel trailer to Alaska for the summer. The CDC is already warning Americans to prepare for some major disruptions due to it, so not travelling doesn't mean not needing to be concerned.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 26, 2020 10:53:28 GMT -5
Nope. One of the confirmed US cases happened in my county. In fact, the hospital that tested/confirmed is about 3-4 miles away from my work and a few extra miles to my house. I figure the risks of me dying in a car accident are greater, still than the risks of whatever may come up from COVID-19. And I get in my car every day without a second thought, so..
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Post by bean29 on Feb 26, 2020 10:56:20 GMT -5
DD works for an airline - DD, DH and I can all fly very inexpensively - but we do not have any plans rn. I suspect DD may want to take a short trip at Easter - I better renew my passport - I have been procrastinating for months...my issue is I had my pics done (Twice) and still not really happy with them.
It isn't just travel - it is how the threat of the disease might affect things we normally do as part of our everyday life. DD is at MKE for Badging relating to her employment this am. She is transferring from MSN which is a much smaller airport. MKE has an international arrival terminal, so it is definitely higher risk. Her career opportunities with the airline preclude her being so paranoid as to not show up for work - so I guess we have to believe if she gets COVID-19 it will not be fatal. COVID-19 has about a 2% fatality rate, and older individuals are much higher risk. DH is an insurance agent in a lower income area - he will not be shutting down his agency- many of his customers pay via cash, so it could greatly affect income. I work for a small property management company - and we do not have work from home options. We could afford to shut down for a few weeks without impacting the business adversely though.
www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/02/25/coronavirus-scenes-china-almost-certain-play-out-u-s/4870019002/
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 26, 2020 11:13:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know the average age of people who have died from Covid 19? It seems that (like the flu) a healthy adult under 60 is likely to recover. It is those old people who tend to have a harder time fighting this stuff. Wash your hands often everyone. I read one report that had a bar chart showing deaths as related to age. If you consider the mortality rate is hovering around 2% (this may change as things unfold), those >80 had around a 15% mortality rate. The chart I remember seeing was that it gradually went up in increments as the ages went up. From what I can figure out, there are a symptomatic carriers of the virus, those who get a milder version, and those that need a lot of hospital like interventions. The fraction of cases that need a hospital is small, but it becomes a numbers game. If only 10% need this sort of treatment, with how infectious this disease is, it is going to overwhelm current world hospital capabilities, both in beds and personnel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 11:28:43 GMT -5
I've heard what makes this so bad is the low mortality rate and all the asymptomatic people running around spreading the disease. Fifteen people on the cruise ship tested positive despite feeling perfectly fine.
Personally, if I'm going to get it, I'd kind of rather it be now than when the healthcare systems are swamped. There are so many horror stories coming out of Hubei from Ex's wife's family. All the pets dying from being abandoned (not by choice in most cases) is what's killing me.
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Post by haapai on Feb 26, 2020 12:10:17 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if what we think that we know about this disease, particularly how it appears to be several times more lethal for elderly people, holds up.
I almost wish that there were more non-travel cases in affluent, English-speaking countries with less overwhelmed and politically constrained health officials so that we could get a better bead on how infectious this thing is and just how it progresses and spreads. I appear to be lacking some basic information regarding this disease, especially the lag between infection and the development of symptoms that is absolutely critical to developing responses that will slow down its spread and protecting the most vulnerable. Sadly, we may be getting some answers to these questions from Italy and Spain. What they experience will have to go through translation to get to me, but it might answer some basic questions that I haven't heard addressed yet.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Feb 26, 2020 12:18:28 GMT -5
Yes, we had planned to go to Berlin and Amsterdam in May. I had procrastinated buying airfare due to our car issue (as yet still unresolved). I figured I really really needed to buy it this week if we were still going, and with the news being what it is, we decided not to risk 1) tourist attractions being closed and 2) possibly being quarantined and not being able to get home. Decided it was easier to cancel now before we'd spent any money. So Europe will have to wait another year.
We still want to to go somewhere...we are now talking about Washington DC. The risks are similar, but we don't have to buy domestic airfare nearly as far in advance as we do international.
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Post by azucena on Feb 26, 2020 12:20:15 GMT -5
I work in life insurance. Our internal reports state 20% of cases are serious with overall mortality of 2% as of mid-Feb.
Quarantine precautions are 14 days with longest reported incubation period of 11 days.
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Post by Bob Ross on Feb 26, 2020 12:29:48 GMT -5
My trip to Wuhan to breathe deeply the local air and make out with the inhabitants is still on.
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Post by jerseygirl on Feb 26, 2020 12:35:46 GMT -5
Had planned to take grandson to Greece this summer, not going Mostly don’t want to go to airport or be in airplane
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 26, 2020 12:39:15 GMT -5
I'm a worrier by nature so this definitely has me worried. We are going to Myrtle Beach next month and then a cruise for our honeymoon in August. The cruise has me concerned. I have until Mid-April to change my mind. If we go, I am definitely buying the travel insurance, which I never do.
My concern isn't as much for me, but my mom has congestive heart failure and my aunt has COPD. I'm very close to both of them and am worried that I will be a carrier and get them sick. I also tend to really worry about things like that (I was very worried over the Ebola scare a few years ago).
BF is leaving it up to me to decide. He is much more laid back then I am but he is also supportive if I am really worried.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 26, 2020 12:45:36 GMT -5
One thing is that if you get sick (not COVID), just s bug and show symptoms, you are likely to be quarantined. That could seriously mess up travel plans
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Post by CCL on Feb 26, 2020 13:01:04 GMT -5
One thing is that if you get sick (not COVID), just s bug and show symptoms, you are likely to be quarantined. That could seriously mess up travel plans I wonder how many folks will avoid seeing a healthcare professional for this reason?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 13:04:59 GMT -5
One thing is that if you get sick (not COVID), just s bug and show symptoms, you are likely to be quarantined. That could seriously mess up travel plans I wonder how many folks will avoid seeing a healthcare professional for this reason? You wouldn't have to. The airline screening shows you have a fever you get yanked. Or as we've seen if you're on a ship with someone that tests positive, you are now part of the quarantine group.
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Post by obelisk on Feb 26, 2020 13:08:55 GMT -5
Looking forward to an international Europe and Asia trip this summer with no packed airplanes and tourist crowds
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Post by swamp on Feb 26, 2020 13:14:57 GMT -5
Nope. Not at all.
I didn't plan on going to China, ever. And I was just in Italy in the fall, so no international travel planned any time soon
We may be going to Hawaii in the late fall, but that's not planned yet. We still plan on going should circumstances allow.
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Post by CCL on Feb 26, 2020 13:15:57 GMT -5
I'm a worrier by nature so this definitely has me worried. We are going to Myrtle Beach next month and then a cruise for our honeymoon in August. The cruise has me concerned. I have until Mid-April to change my mind. If we go, I am definitely buying the travel insurance, which I never do. My concern isn't as much for me, but my mom has congestive heart failure and my aunt has COPD. I'm very close to both of them and am worried that I will be a carrier and get them sick. I also tend to really worry about things like that (I was very worried over the Ebola scare a few years ago). BF is leaving it up to me to decide. He is much more laid back then I am but he is also supportive if I am really worried. I've been reading articles re: travel insurance. They are all saying that insurance will only cover this if it was purchased prior to the outbreak. Now it is considered a forseeable event. The exception is the "cancel for any reason" coverage. IME, though, they usually only cover 50% of the loss.
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