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Post by oped on Mar 12, 2020 11:22:30 GMT -5
Holy fuck. Go to tutor for a few hours ...
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2020 11:26:05 GMT -5
Uh oh, watch it bucko. Saying the “Stock market is still much higher than when I got here and will bounce back” is getting quite close to a new comparison being published. We are at DJIA 21,478 right now. Don, Half the business world will be shutting down,,
Even if you are a Billionaire sports club owner, How long can you pay the player salaries , if there are no fans? That is only a tiny part, All the airlines may shut down. How about importing food products from other Countries? that may stop.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 12, 2020 11:42:10 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? Wow. When the economy was red hot you were all “whoo hoo thank you Trump “ and now that it’s turned, due to a global pandemic, you’re pinning that on dems for talking about how bad the pandemic is? ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 11:42:41 GMT -5
Uh oh, watch it bucko. Saying the “Stock market is still much higher than when I got here and will bounce back” is getting quite close to a new comparison being published. We are at DJIA 21,478 right now. Don, Half the business world will be shutting down,,
Even if you are a Billionaire sports club owner, How long can you pay the player salaries , if there are no fans? That is only a tiny part, All the airlines may shut down. How about importing food products from other Countries? that may stop.
I keep saying IRL that we all were worried about AI and this is going to be way worse for the economy and quality of people's lives.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 11:43:57 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? Wow. When the economy was red hot you were all “whoo hoo thank you Trump “ and now that it’s turned, due to a global pandemic, you’re pinning that on dems for talking about how bad the pandemic is? ? Yes, because the alternative is to admit Trump is a conman and a fraud they have all been following.
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2020 11:46:29 GMT -5
Uh oh, watch it bucko. Saying the “Stock market is still much higher than when I got here and will bounce back” is getting quite close to a new comparison being published. We are at DJIA 21,478 right now. Don, Half the business world will be shutting down,,
Even if you are a Billionaire sports club owner, How long can you pay the player salaries , if there are no fans? That is only a tiny part, All the airlines may shut down. How about importing food products from other Countries? that may stop.
OC, Please feel free to inform me how your post relates to mine that you quoted, in any way. I'm curious about your thought process.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 12:11:09 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? 1) we don't want any congratulations. but yes, this president is a fucking disaster. I want to remind you that his initial response, the one that we had to read about in the paper, was to tell the WHO to fuck off back in January, basically. we don't need your help is what he told them. this is just the flu. he repeated that for another month. and then, he started admitting that it was a problem, but still minimizing it. then, last night, he got on TV and in his wooden, heartless teleprompter manner, as if Putin was controlling his flapping jowells courtesy a full length glove up his hidquarters, he gave an impromptu and very confusing message which sent global markets into a tailspin. but sure. blame Democrats. that sounds like leadership to me.
2) yes, there will l likely be a huge amount of deaths in the US, and that is only Trump's fault to the extent that he failed to get on top of it back in January, and that fault is considerable.
your failure to recognize the weaknesses of this candidate is causing you to blame the rest of us, again, for what is a character flaw on his part. he doesn't plan or organize well, oc. and this situation requires planning and organizing. he doesn't play well with others. this situation requires cooperation. he doesn't empathize, which is the root of all the other problems. and, finally, he has this tendency to take credit for everything good that happens, and responsibility for none of it. that is not what we need in a crisis. we need a leader who will take the blame, and do the hard things. and this president is neither.
so, yeah- lots of people will die, and fortunes will be lost. but if you want someone to blame, you can blame yourself and other people who voted this guy into office. he is a disaster, and so, like is dissolving like in this situation. you have nobody to blame but yourselves, but yet you blame us.
but don't worry. we will fix it. we always do. and you will sit around and complain about it when we do.
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2020 12:12:57 GMT -5
BRAVO!!!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 12:16:06 GMT -5
I want to save special scorn for your last comment.
no, Biden or Sanders won't have shovel ready jobs because Trump gave all the money away for those jobs to businesspeople who spent that money on stock buybacks and now have no cash on hand to hire, even if they could (but why would they? there is no incentive for a business to spend in a weak economy. that is what we have government for. but I digress).
so, no, we are fucked. we will either have to run depression level deficits, or we will have to lose everything we have gained in the last decade. if the GOP is in charge, it will be the latter. and again, that is entirely their fault. they were mostly in charge of the purse during that time.
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2020 12:21:32 GMT -5
BRAVO Part II
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2020 12:28:10 GMT -5
Yes, let’s give those corporations that actually pay any taxes massive tax cuts. Then they can buy their stocks back and jack the values. Then Covid-19 can come along and wipe out 30% of those inflated values and POOF! All gone.
There is not much more that can be said to anyone claiming they only voted for Trump because Hillary would have been so much worse. If any of you can now look in a mirror and still be ok with that decision, to put this fraudulent tv shill huckster rip-off criminal sex predator in OUR White House, well you can f-off now.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 12:39:48 GMT -5
Yes, let’s give those corporations that actually pay any taxes massive tax cuts. Then they can buy their stocks back and jack the values. Then Covid-19 can come along and wipe out 30% of those inflated values and POOF! All gone. There is not much more that can be said to anyone claiming they only voted for Trump because Hillary would have been so much worse. If any of you can now look in a mirror and still be ok with that decision, to put this fraudulent tv shill huckster rip-off criminal sex predator in OUR White House, well you can f-off now. that is not entirely true. the wealth is gone from the companies that did the buybacks. that is true. but it ended up in the pockets of those that took them. so, effectively Trump bonused major stockholders, who now have nowhere to invest their money.
MAGA!
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2020 12:45:13 GMT -5
Yes, let’s give those corporations that actually pay any taxes massive tax cuts. Then they can buy their stocks back and jack the values. Then Covid-19 can come along and wipe out 30% of those inflated values and POOF! All gone. There is not much more that can be said to anyone claiming they only voted for Trump because Hillary would have been so much worse. If any of you can now look in a mirror and still be ok with that decision, to put this fraudulent tv shill huckster rip-off criminal sex predator in OUR White House, well you can f-off now. that is not entirely true. the wealth is gone from the companies that did the buybacks. that is true. but it ended up in the pockets of those that took them. so, effectively Trump bonused major stockholders, who now have nowhere to invest their money.
MAGA!
Yes they were ‘bonused. But if they didn’t sell then and move into bonds have those major STOCKholders not experienced massive losses to that largesse Trump handed over?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 13:24:40 GMT -5
that is not entirely true. the wealth is gone from the companies that did the buybacks. that is true. but it ended up in the pockets of those that took them. so, effectively Trump bonused major stockholders, who now have nowhere to invest their money.
MAGA!
Yes they were ‘bonused. But if they didn’t sell then and move into bonds have those major STOCKholders not experienced massive losses to that largesse Trump handed over? it would make sense that they probably just moved them to other equities, don, so you are probably right.
it probably, ultimately means that those tax breaks largely just went poof.
and yeah, that is disheartening to an almost immeasurable degree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2020 13:32:47 GMT -5
Spirit Air down 30% today, 80% since September.
Wow.......
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 12, 2020 13:42:22 GMT -5
today is going to hurt financially I think..... I won't be checking balances for quite some time. Psst...the next time you become a millionaire, you might wanna keep it on the DL. Seriously! I apologize to the world!
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Post by Bob Ross on Mar 12, 2020 13:51:56 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? 1) we don't want any congratulations. but yes, this president is a fucking disaster. I want to remind you that his initial response, the one that we had to read about in the paper, was to tell the WHO to fuck off back in January, basically. we don't need your help is what he told them. this is just the flu. he repeated that for another month. and then, he started admitting that it was a problem, but still minimizing it. then, last night, he got on TV and in his wooden, heartless teleprompter manner, as if Putin was controlling his flapping jowells courtesy a full length glove up his hidquarters, he gave an impromptu and very confusing message which sent global markets into a tailspin. but sure. blame Democrats. that sounds like leadership to me.
2) yes, there will l likely be a huge amount of deaths in the US, and that is only Trump's fault to the extent that he failed to get on top of it back in January, and that fault is considerable.
your failure to recognize the weaknesses of this candidate is causing you to blame the rest of us, again, for what is a character flaw on his part. he doesn't plan or organize well, oc. and this situation requires planning and organizing. he doesn't play well with others. this situation requires cooperation. he doesn't empathize, which is the root of all the other problems. and, finally, he has this tendency to take credit for everything good that happens, and responsibility for none of it. that is not what we need in a crisis. we need a leader who will take the blame, and do the hard things. and this president is neither.
so, yeah- lots of people will die, and fortunes will be lost. but if you want someone to blame, you can blame yourself and other people who voted this guy into office. he is a disaster, and so, like is dissolving like in this situation. you have nobody to blame but yourselves, but yet you blame us.
but don't worry. we will fix it. we always do. and you will sit around and complain about it when we do.
POTY!
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 12, 2020 14:03:31 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? Hilarious! Keep up the performance art - it's all you got left now. Trump isn't responsible for anything - yet anonymous posters on some dumb forum need to beat their chests with a mea culpa for you? sure....okay.... ...yep
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Post by oped on Mar 12, 2020 15:04:57 GMT -5
After inheriting a long running bull market. again, the next major support for the Dow is 21700. that is about 15% below where we stand today. happy investing! Care to play again?
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Post by steff on Mar 12, 2020 15:07:48 GMT -5
-2352.27 -9.99% WooHooo! MAGA!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 12, 2020 15:09:15 GMT -5
Worst day since 1987! Another milestone
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Post by countrygirl2 on Mar 12, 2020 15:25:25 GMT -5
We are fine, I invested for principal preservation. Our earnings will likely go to nil as the contracts expire or the treasuries are replaced. Today we are still earning, only 2.3% and have lost nothing. For us old folks this is fine. We knew what we had going in long ago and knew we could live on it alone if we had to. There were moments I wanted to jump in and earn like the rest of you but did not.
We are positioned with no debt. We can help our renters stay for awhile if they get laid off, only a few months, not forever of course. Unless the whole economy just totally craters we are fine, but the way things are going who knows.
I also have been a sort of prepper for a long time, so today we topped everything off. We have food, supplies and hopefully most of what we need to last months. I am way shy on ammo, but finally got some. Not something we ever plan to need, but... I'm checking out in a few days a guy where I can get some more. this is only a precaution. I also put aside some cash for emergencies. I'm sure there are not things I have thought of.
And finally I got to the doc last weekend and I am feeling well again, thankfully. I pulled DD from her special ed center she goes to, won't let her go back for awhile. I'm getting my massage tomorrow, and basically we are staying in. I may continue my massage for a few days yet, but will see. So for now I'm worried about health for us and everybody, but that's about. I hope all of you are well positioned to see this through.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2020 18:40:57 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? Wow. When the economy was red hot you were all “whoo hoo thank you Trump “ and now that it’s turned, due to a global pandemic, you’re pinning that on dems for talking about how bad the pandemic is? ? Happyhoix, Look into your crystal ball, what does the future hold, say like 90 days from now?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 12, 2020 19:01:23 GMT -5
Wow. When the economy was red hot you were all “whoo hoo thank you Trump “ and now that it’s turned, due to a global pandemic, you’re pinning that on dems for talking about how bad the pandemic is? ? Happyhoix, Look into your crystal ball, what does the future hold, say like 90 days from now? Old Coyote.....do you really think that your guy in the White House has been doing what is best for the country the last 3 months?
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2020 19:19:26 GMT -5
I don't think it made any difference what he did or did not do. This is a no win for any one. Before, it was said He didn't do enough soon enough. Remember the CDC is the government agency that over sees these things, They were doing their thing behind the scenes, which is of course their job,
Now that Trump is shutting all kinds of things down, the complaint will be look at Trump go way over board on this. It is a no win for any one,
It is time every one to pull in one direction, but that will not happen, too much ground to be gained in the political football game. I think the economy is in real danger right now, 2008 will look like a cake walk!
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 19:23:43 GMT -5
Worst day since 1987! Another milestone I think it beat it in terms of point drop. but he will have to wait another day to beat Reagan in %.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 19:24:44 GMT -5
Happyhoix, Look into your crystal ball, what does the future hold, say like 90 days from now? Old Coyote.....do you really think that your guy in the White House has been doing what is best for the country the last 3 months? I think we can predict the worst response imaginable. if you don't understand WHY at this point, I would be surprised.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 12, 2020 19:25:55 GMT -5
again, the next major support for the Dow is 21700. that is about 15% below where we stand today. happy investing! Care to play again? next support level is 16k. it would be tough to imagine it going lower than that, but it is certainly possible.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2020 19:27:41 GMT -5
I want to take this minute to congratulate all of you that need to turn this into a Trump failure, You may have succeeded! Unfortunately, the rest of the Country is going down with him!
The panic that you have caused by promoting how bad the virus is, and NO cooperation between the Parties.
Well, There will be a huge amount of deaths,, but most will be financial!!! The businesses that are going to fail, the number of people that will be out of work,,, 2008, is going to look like a cake walk!! We do have our Savior!! Sanders, He will give everything free,, think of what the deficit will look like then!!! Global Warming, half the World will be back to heating and cooking with campfires!! Is Sanders or Biden going to have shovel ready jobs?? Hilarious! Keep up the performance art - it's all you got left now. Trump isn't responsible for anything - yet anonymous posters on some dumb forum need to beat their chests with a mea culpa for you? sure....okay.... ...yep What are you going to do when he is reelected?
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 12, 2020 19:29:33 GMT -5
next support level is 16k. it would be tough to imagine it going lower than that, but it is certainly possible. DJ, there is nothing to keep it from going below 2008 levels.
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