dondub
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The meek shall indeed inherit the earth but only after the Visigoths are done with it.
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Post by dondub on Dec 3, 2019 22:50:39 GMT -5
And here you are known for scintillating debate.
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dezii
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Post by dezii on Dec 4, 2019 0:13:58 GMT -5
Sorry old but u have shot your wad...all your "give me a breaks" go in one ear and out the other...cried wolf too many times and just about all here know you are here only to ...Trolling really not nice or accepted practice...especially on this forum. ------------------------------------------------- Definition of: Internet Troll A person who posts remarks or comments onto internet forums or message boards in an attempt to get someone to comment negatively to it and to redirect attention onto himself. Usually, these remarks are controversial, stupid, off-topic, inflaming, illogical, or childish. Sometimes, the comments are enough to enrage the people in the forum to want to respond back with their own negative remarks which starts a flame war and changes the topic and attention of the discussion. Since, internet trolls are attention whores, this is exactly what they want since they probably don't get enough attention in real life and needs someone else to acknowledge their self-worth and existence. Nowadays, they are commonly found infesting internet forums and websites such as the GameFAQS Message Boards, youtube (most notably in the comments section), moviecodec, rpgcodex and many others. It is best to ignore them unless you want flame wars to engulf the forum...... You can't debate this so you fall back on Troll, I got it man! That as a troll and it's not acceptable here...you got that right man...
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dezii
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Post by dezii on Dec 4, 2019 0:26:01 GMT -5
Thus it behooves Dems, who outnumber the pubs and most important , the independents and moderates to turn out in great #'s...hoping for a good break on the electoral...a few of those swinging against the toilet mouth...not asking them to change from conservative to moderate, definitely not asking to bend all the way to liberal...just to vote for the future good of America and the Donald is not that...hope a hope... I agree with you, but I acknowledge that there are people who are disillusioned with the DNC for some pretty valid reasons. We can't expect them to do what you want them to because you believe that Trump is a bigger problem. If the democrats don't acknowledge their concerns, those people will opt out. It is possible. It happened in 2016. And no one expected it. If we pretend like it won't happen again and sweep those people's concerns under the rug, then we get what we deserve. Sorry , in some ways your correct...however, just did a very quick google...USA population is 331 million...give or take a few...to expect anyone to fulfill all the wants and desires of all of the adults , election eligible is impossible...To compare the almost four years of the Trump administration … {when he became POTUS those who weren't supporters but not haters thought …"well he may not be that bad"...Wrong, he was, is and in fact is worse...} and not support anyone else, even if they don't meet every criteria of what one wants in a leader....what can I say....
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thyme4change
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Post by thyme4change on Dec 4, 2019 12:38:52 GMT -5
I agree with you, but I acknowledge that there are people who are disillusioned with the DNC for some pretty valid reasons. We can't expect them to do what you want them to because you believe that Trump is a bigger problem. If the democrats don't acknowledge their concerns, those people will opt out. It is possible. It happened in 2016. And no one expected it. If we pretend like it won't happen again and sweep those people's concerns under the rug, then we get what we deserve. Sorry , in some ways your correct...however, just did a very quick google...USA population is 331 million...give or take a few...to expect anyone to fulfill all the wants and desires of all of the adults , election eligible is impossible...To compare the almost four years of the Trump administration … {when he became POTUS those who weren't supporters but not haters thought …"well he may not be that bad"...Wrong, he was, is and in fact is worse...} and not support anyone else, even if they don't meet every criteria of what one wants in a leader....what can I say.... True, but look what happened when the GOP let their party can taken over by the radical right. There is a big gap in the middle. Why do we want two polarized parties that cater to a small number of radical voters?
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dezii
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Post by dezii on Dec 4, 2019 13:21:16 GMT -5
Sorry , in some ways your correct...however, just did a very quick google...USA population is 331 million...give or take a few...to expect anyone to fulfill all the wants and desires of all of the adults , election eligible is impossible...To compare the almost four years of the Trump administration … {when he became POTUS those who weren't supporters but not haters thought …"well he may not be that bad"...Wrong, he was, is and in fact is worse...} and not support anyone else, even if they don't meet every criteria of what one wants in a leader....what can I say.... True, but look what happened when the GOP let their party can taken over by the radical right. There is a big gap in the middle. Why do we want two polarized parties that cater to a small number of radical voters? It's why I favor those who are more moderate..not those from the more extreme ends ..in my case it would be to much left...for others it's the right..thus a calmer voice, for me with this collection of folks, it's Joe...yet I know he can get feisty if needed..Example was the long period of thinking by Obama over his handling of Afghanistan that he inherited...he ended up more nation building...as we know, it failed. Joe disagreed...he wanted to increase the military...go after the bad guys...bomb the crap out of them in the mountains...Pakistan if thats the mountains they disappeared into and forget the nation building. However as a vice president should...after decision is made by a President, correct doing by a VP is resign as the ultimate if impossible to support a Presidential decision.....or more likely, publicly support the Presidents decision..which he did..which is the correct way for a VP to act. There were discussions with Obama..many disagreements too I am sure but also, unlike the Donald, Obama wanted discussion and disagreements plus did read reports and listened to his advisors...then doing what leaders do...made the final decision...hopefully the correct one but not always ...
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