Mrs. Dinero
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Post by Mrs. Dinero on Oct 22, 2019 8:06:00 GMT -5
Netflix has another meatless documentary on elite athletes kicking butt on a plant based diet, “Game Changers”. I’m hopeful that Americans will at least eat far less meat as time goes on. It’s just not sustainable. Health benefits are impressive as well. Have any of you changed your diet by eating less meat since we last discussed? I have but I’m still far from a vegetarian. Family is becoming more on board so that definitely helps.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Oct 22, 2019 8:16:49 GMT -5
meatless since July 1987.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 8:44:37 GMT -5
I eat meat about once a week and I'm finding that large pieces of meat (e.g. a juicy steak) don't appeal to me at all. The change was mostly for health reasons since my cholesterol runs a bit high. I'm happy to see that most restaurants have decent vegetarian options now.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Oct 22, 2019 9:02:46 GMT -5
I don't like salmon or many other fishes and I'm allergic to soybeans. So yes I will continue to eat meat.
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Post by bean29 on Oct 22, 2019 9:09:20 GMT -5
We eat meat, lots of chicken, occasionally fish. We have lots of fruits and veggies in our diet, no intention of giving up meat. I am lactose intolerant and can not tolerate corn either. I don't need to eliminate anything else from my diet.
My DD never would eat cheese even as a child.
If you don't want to eat meat, I have no problem with it, but why do you feel the need to get everyone else on board with you? I actually don't care what anyone else is eating. Maybe I am just self centered?
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Post by Cookies Galore on Oct 22, 2019 9:19:14 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Oct 22, 2019 9:20:22 GMT -5
I have PCOS and am insulin resistant. A low carb diet is best for me. I'm going to keep eating meat.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 22, 2019 9:29:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 9:38:13 GMT -5
If you don't want to eat meat, I have no problem with it, but why do you feel the need to get everyone else on board with you? I actually don't care what anyone else is eating. Maybe I am just self centered? There are some good reasons we as a population would be better off if we consumed less. First, it takes far more resources to grow stuff for the cattle, chickens, etc, to eat and then use the animals for food than to just eat the plants. Second, the average person in the US eats way too much meat. This link is an example- in 2018 the consumption of red meat and poultry was projected to be 222 lbs. per year capita- presumably that excludes pork and fish? www.seattletimes.com/business/americans-meat-consumption-set-to-hit-a-record-in-2018/The government recommends 5 to 6.5 ounces of meat and poultry daily (and I bet that's high, influenced by lobbyists from the big meatpackers); actual consumption runs around 10 ounces. Have you ever weighed the meat in an Iowa-cut pork chop or a single chicken breast? They're way over the 4-oz. serving size defined in nutritional guidelines. The health costs of excessive meat consumption affect us all. Then, yes, it IS everyone's business.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 22, 2019 9:41:43 GMT -5
I eat meat about once a week and I'm finding that large pieces of meat (e.g. a juicy steak) don't appeal to me at all. The change was mostly for health reasons since my cholesterol runs a bit high. I'm happy to see that most restaurants have decent vegetarian options now. I don't know why I went through a maybe two year period not long ago where the thought of eating a steak made me feel queasy. It's not as if I had a bad steak so I swore it off. I eventually began eating an occasional steak again and felt fine.
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Post by Mrs. Dinero on Oct 22, 2019 9:46:48 GMT -5
We, society as a whole, would be better off eating less meat is all I’m trying to convey. Understand it’s not for everyone. Just hoping we decrease the average consumption over time.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 22, 2019 10:22:57 GMT -5
I've been a "Flexitarian" for over a decade.... I won't say no to "meat" if you are serving it to me - but if I have a choice at a restaurant, or I'm cooking or buying a fast food meal it will more than likely be vegetarian. I will go a couple of weeks to months at a time without eating meat. There might be a serving or two of salmon, tuna, OR shrimp in that time frame though. I could easily go ovo-lacto vegetarian full time if I was alittle more vocal about what I will eat at family gatherings/some social occasions. OK, maybe ovo-lacto pescatarian would be a better label as I will occassionally eat seafood. I don't have cravings for 'meat'. It's rather like eating the same thing over and over and over again. I found I have much more variety in tastes/textures/colors etc since I went mostly meatless. Can't say I lost weight or had some other wonderful physical thing happen. I do like cooking so much more. And I became a better cook since losing the meat with each meal. And I discovered some awesome tasting meals (that I like to cook and eat). I have saved quite a bit of money... meat's expensive (per serving).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 10:35:05 GMT -5
If you don't want to eat meat, I have no problem with it, but why do you feel the need to get everyone else on board with you? I actually don't care what anyone else is eating. Maybe I am just self centered? I love meat, but the environmental impact of beef is pretty insane. I don't think most people are really aware of all the resources that go into raising and feeding a herd of cattle.
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Post by movingforward on Oct 22, 2019 10:41:26 GMT -5
I have cut back on red meat and eat it only about 2 times per month. That's about it...the list of things we as a society shouldn't eat is already about a mile long. I'm not giving up chicken, turkey and fish.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Oct 22, 2019 10:47:41 GMT -5
The thought of eating red meat makes me queasy.
My family on my dad's side has a history of colon cancer. I had colon cancer in 1999. Red meat is not good for people and the way it is grown is not good for the environment.
3 years ago I had a terrible time getting vegetarian food when I was hospitalized. The meal I remember the most that blew my mind was a tray with fish on it. I had told them several times by then that I don't eat anything with eyes.
I had them return that meal and serve something vegetarian.
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Post by sesfw on Oct 22, 2019 10:52:28 GMT -5
Our evening meal usually is chicken, turkey, or salmon .......... and unseasoned steamed veggies. At times I'll make a pot of chili with ground turkey and beans.
Other two meals are meatless ......... and neither of us are cheese eaters.
Lunch is unsalted nuts and fresh fruit
Breakfast is cereal and fresh fruit.
I have found only 2 cereals that have no sodium ......... oatmeal and shredded wheat, so that is what we have. DH likes oatmeal and I think it's slimy. Our shredded wheat brand of choice is Kashi
Limit your sodium to a max of 1500 mg per day. Become a label reader, you'll feel a lot better and your body will thank you.
I had colon cancer in 1999.
Me too ............... 2012 ............... not fun but I got through it OK
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Post by Mrs. Dinero on Oct 22, 2019 10:58:22 GMT -5
“I had told them several times by then that I don't eat anything with eyes.” I have heard people say they don’t eat anything that has a mother or a face. Damn! Made me immediately feel bad that I do.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 22, 2019 10:58:30 GMT -5
*Looks up from Impossible Double Whopper* Yup, I'm eating less meat. For health reasons. *Resumes eating Impossible Double Whopper*
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 22, 2019 11:01:22 GMT -5
I have two main problems with veganism
1) There are a lot of foods that are just chemicals. I don't eat too many purely processed foods in my non-vegan diet, but if I am going to go to the trouble of eating vegan, I would want to rid myself of so much processing.
2) Convenience - our current culture has both ease and variety based on an all inclusive diet. Whenever I look for vegan based recipes, I get soup, chili and salads. And all of them have 8 billion ingredients, half of which don't seem natural, and aren't at my grocery store.
There was a Salad to go near me that had a salad I loved. It had quinoa and sweet potato and apples. It was delicious. They cut it. You can now get Cobb Salad, Cesear Salad or Spinach Salad, with generic ingredients. At best - yawn. I need a wholesale change in our food distribution system before i can fully commit.
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Post by mollyc on Oct 22, 2019 11:04:03 GMT -5
No. We have always eaten more chicken then pork and more pork then beef.
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Post by hoops902 on Oct 22, 2019 11:48:55 GMT -5
If you don't want to eat meat, I have no problem with it, but why do you feel the need to get everyone else on board with you? I actually don't care what anyone else is eating. Maybe I am just self centered? There are some good reasons we as a population would be better off if we consumed less. First, it takes far more resources to grow stuff for the cattle, chickens, etc, to eat and then use the animals for food than to just eat the plants. Second, the average person in the US eats way too much meat. This link is an example- in 2018 the consumption of red meat and poultry was projected to be 222 lbs. per year capita- presumably that excludes pork and fish? www.seattletimes.com/business/americans-meat-consumption-set-to-hit-a-record-in-2018/The government recommends 5 to 6.5 ounces of meat and poultry daily (and I bet that's high, influenced by lobbyists from the big meatpackers); actual consumption runs around 10 ounces. Have you ever weighed the meat in an Iowa-cut pork chop or a single chicken breast? They're way over the 4-oz. serving size defined in nutritional guidelines. The health costs of excessive meat consumption affect us all. Then, yes, it IS everyone's business.The health costs of working in an office affect us all. The health costs of looking at a computer screen affect us all. The societal costs of shitty parents having kids affect us all. The health costs of older parents having kids affects us all. There are costs to basically every decision someone makes, most of which end up paid by society in one form or another. People only think "it's everyone's business" when it's something they want to change. When it's something they personally don't want to change, then everyone should mind their own business. I think it's well and good to encourage people to be healthier. It's disingenuous at best to pretend that this particular issue is "everyone's business" in a way that is different from decisions of who gets to have kids, whether people should quit their office jobs, or any other decision that impacts society. Saying something "affects us all" pretty much applies to every decision a person can make, if made en masse.
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Post by spartyparty on Oct 22, 2019 11:51:16 GMT -5
Beef seems to sit like a rock in my gut anymore...so I eat more chicken these days.
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Post by hoops902 on Oct 22, 2019 11:55:34 GMT -5
Beef seems to sit like a rock in my gut anymore...so I eat more chicken these days. Ditto. I can eat beef if I'm settling in for a night of not moving (grilling out knowing I'm going to sit around in a lawn chair all night, or sitting down to a long dinner out, or just hanging around the house), but I can't really eat it if I'm going to be active, I just don't feel great. That probably also has to do with the fact that I don't eat beef often, so if I do I'm really enjoying something significant like a big steak or something. We eat probably 10x the amount of chicken compared to beef, and most beef is in hamburger form mixed in with something else (like in a sauce for pasta).
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 22, 2019 12:01:55 GMT -5
*Looks up from Impossible Double Whopper* Yup, I'm eating less meat. For health reasons. *Resumes eating Impossible Double Whopper* I've been reading about the Impossible burgers - what do you think about them?
Supposedly, the guy who invented them claimed that people making veggie burgers were making them for people who did not eat meat - so they were fine with veggie burgers that tasted like veggie burgers. The impossible burgers were an attempt to make a veggie burger that a meat eater would want to eat, so I was wondering how that tasted.
I've tried some of the Morningstar type veggie burgers in the past - better to just eat the veggies, IMHO.
I don't eat much meat, and more fish/chicken than beef, but I do sometimes crave a big juicy burger, so if the Impossible burger fills that craving, I'd go for it. I don't need to eat the red meat, and you can grow exponentially more veggies than cows using the same resources.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 22, 2019 12:11:06 GMT -5
*Looks up from Impossible Double Whopper* Yup, I'm eating less meat. For health reasons. *Resumes eating Impossible Double Whopper* I've been reading about the Impossible burgers - what do you think about them?
Supposedly, the guy who invented them claimed that people making veggie burgers were making them for people who did not eat meat - so they were fine with veggie burgers that tasted like veggie burgers. The impossible burgers were an attempt to make a veggie burger that a meat eater would want to eat, so I was wondering how that tasted.
I've tried some of the Morningstar type veggie burgers in the past - better to just eat the veggies, IMHO.
I don't eat much meat, and more fish/chicken than beef, but I do sometimes crave a big juicy burger, so if the Impossible burger fills that craving, I'd go for it. I don't need to eat the red meat, and you can grow exponentially more veggies than cows using the same resources.
I haven't tried one. My comment was a joke based on the claim (fact?) that Impossible burgers are just as unhealthy, if not more so, than red meat. My wife, who doesn't eat meat, gets them occasionally and seems to like them.
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Post by pooks on Oct 22, 2019 12:22:38 GMT -5
I'm not eating any less meat. We aren't eating steak, because it is too much $$$. Most of our meals still have some meat, mostly chicken. I was a vegetarian for years, but got really bored with the food.
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Post by swamp on Oct 22, 2019 12:24:39 GMT -5
my husband gets annoyed with me when I refuse to eat meat.
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Post by spartyparty on Oct 22, 2019 12:30:16 GMT -5
I've tried the Impossible Whopper. It was good, but it was a little dry...so if you're hungover and craving a big greasy burger, this won't fix your craving. Lol Although the one Impossible Burger I tried wasn't made very well (i.e. they skimped on the toppings - it was more like a dollar menu hamburger).
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Post by spartyparty on Oct 22, 2019 12:39:31 GMT -5
my husband gets annoyed with me when I refuse to eat meat. Lol... I need to figure out how to adhere some candy corn to my bratwurst
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Post by Tiny on Oct 22, 2019 12:48:34 GMT -5
I have two main problems with veganism 1) There are a lot of foods that are just chemicals. I don't eat too many purely processed foods in my non-vegan diet, but if I am going to go to the trouble of eating vegan, I would want to rid myself of so much processing. Why do you need to go vegan? Vegan to me means that in addition to not eating anything with a face (meat, fish, most other sea food) you aren't eating eggs or any diary products. Why not just go vegetarian (or be more specific: ovo-lacto vegetarian...OR ovo lacto pescatarian (so you can still eat fish)) ? For example: I don't think making stuffed peppers with, say tempeh, is any more "processed" than making it with ground beef. I don't think loading up chili with beans, squash, corn (or maybe tempeh again) is any more processed than chili made with ground beef. You don't even need to be against eating animals. I went Flexitarian without any "moral" or "ethical" underpinnings about eating meat. I was mostly tired of the expense (and waste and processed-ness) of all the meat products/meals I was typically eating. Everything I ate was smushy and beige before discovering the world of "no meat" meals. I don't eat 'smushy beige food' so much anymore.
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