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Post by countrygirl2 on Oct 4, 2019 20:51:27 GMT -5
I was listening to a channel called Newsy. They said the Ukraine, I'm sure to get the money from trump, had reopened 16 investigations into this stuff. I'm betting they come up with the "right" answer for trump or he will cut off the money again. Scary sh** going on.
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Post by ednkris on Oct 4, 2019 22:44:01 GMT -5
There is nothing illegal with Trumps call to Ukraine. There is nothing illegal with him asking China either that is why he did it for all to hear. The Dem congress is just trying to use this to rile people up of course it works for the Trump haters no news there. The ones who knows the difference is just sitting back and watching another failed attempt by the Dems to discredit the president. The best part it only gives Trump more support. Do you have a legal degree? Because many MANY lawyers disagree with you. In fact, most of the country and world disagrees with you. So if you think your statement above is actually factual, please provide us with your credentials that make you an expert on this matter. Otherwise, STFU and let the process move forward to see what is really going on.
Also, half the country wants the impeachment process to move forward.....how is that giving Trump more support? Math must not have been your strong subject in school....
Many lawyers agree that he did nothing wrong and  ? Only the half of the country that are Trump haters want to impeach... no I will not STFU got as much right to voice an opinion as you do. Nothing will come of this...just more posturing dems rhetoric. Trump will win next year. Maybe in 2024 the dems might get some real candidates instead of the ass clowns they have now |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 4, 2019 23:20:29 GMT -5
Do you have a legal degree? Because many MANY lawyers disagree with you. In fact, most of the country and world disagrees with you. So if you think your statement above is actually factual, please provide us with your credentials that make you an expert on this matter. Otherwise, STFU and let the process move forward to see what is really going on.
Also, half the country wants the impeachment process to move forward.....how is that giving Trump more support? Math must not have been your strong subject in school....
Many lawyers agree that he did nothing wrong and ? Only the half of the country that are Trump haters want to impeach... no I will not STFU got as much right to voice an opinion as you do. Nothing will come of this...just more posturing dems rhetoric. Trump will win next year. Maybe in 2024 the dems might get some real candidates instead of the ass clowns they have now the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:08:40 GMT -5
Yes it is ! Don't do anything wrong, they can't find anything out. Some one wants to take the time to investigate me, have at it. I have nothing to worry about. Biden's however... Perhaps you should be giving your sound advice to President Trump. Nah, he's on his own. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:15:50 GMT -5
Send like a lot of posting gymnastics for an investigation of those innocent Biden's. What's up with that ?  Just responding in kind. No biggie.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:19:44 GMT -5
He would be the owner of the company that employed them. The criminal charges would go to the people working his HR departments. Being busy as he was with the big picture of business, he probably didn't even know. Been there. The owner of the company is ultimately responsible for what happens. "I'm busy" doesn't really hold up well in court. You can't put an HR department in jail. You can put the individual who hires however. To put the owner in jail, requires proof that he set the policy of the hiring of illegals. That's why Trump never actually had a problem, from this hiring of illegals. Makes great liberal/Democrat propaganda however. |
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 5, 2019 10:21:45 GMT -5
Perhaps you should be giving your sound advice to President Trump. Nah, he's on his own. Nah, he's never on his own. He has his new fixer (Rudy) and he will take everyone down with him before we send that loud mouthed New Yorker back to where he came from. Like this opinion piece states: The much more likely scenario is this: Pence would take office and immediately convince most of the right-wing media universe to come along with him. Fox News would pivot effortlessly from Trump cheerleading to Trump eulogizing and Trump handwringing, and anoint Pence as the savior du jour. If he's clever, Pence could even feign inner turmoil, and claim to be fighting for Trump's legacy. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity might angrily vent for a few nights, but ultimately the MAGA train would roll on. After a few weeks we'd be right back to hours of breathless coverage about some random campus outrage and wall-to-wall socialism panicking. Outlets like The Federalist and Breitbart would have to accept, and quickly, that it's Pence or it's 2020 oblivion.www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republicans-have-nothing-to-fear-from-removing-trump/ar-AAIgrpO?ocid=spartanntp |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:31:54 GMT -5
Conservatives prefer to arrest them, and want to send illegals back to where they come from. It's quite alright for a president to inquire of a foreign power, to investigate illegal activities taking place inside said country. (It's in the wording)I’ll take the word of the Chair of the FEC over that of a trump apologist ”"Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election,"I've met quite a few far left nut bags when I used to travel. Now, not as many. The Chair of the FEC could of said that. Doesn't seem out of line. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 10:36:09 GMT -5
I’ll take the word of the Chair of the FEC over that of a trump apologist ”"Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election,"I've met quite a few far left nut bags when I used to travel. Now, not as many. The Chair of the FEC could of said that. Doesn't seem out of line. The Chair of the FEC, DID state that.... Regardless of his/her views, the statement stands. Hence the impeachment of the most corrupt to hold the office - ever |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:36:33 GMT -5
Nah, he's never on his own. He has his new fixer (Rudy) and he will take everyone down with him before we send that loud mouthed New Yorker back to where he came from. Like this opinion piece states: The much more likely scenario is this: Pence would take office and immediately convince most of the right-wing media universe to come along with him. Fox News would pivot effortlessly from Trump cheerleading to Trump eulogizing and Trump handwringing, and anoint Pence as the savior du jour. If he's clever, Pence could even feign inner turmoil, and claim to be fighting for Trump's legacy. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity might angrily vent for a few nights, but ultimately the MAGA train would roll on. After a few weeks we'd be right back to hours of breathless coverage about some random campus outrage and wall-to-wall socialism panicking. Outlets like The Federalist and Breitbart would have to accept, and quickly, that it's Pence or it's 2020 oblivion.www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republicans-have-nothing-to-fear-from-removing-trump/ar-AAIgrpO?ocid=spartanntpMsn opinion pieces are just that. It'll keep the target audience on the edge of their seats. "The rest of this report, right after these messages" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:40:05 GMT -5
I've met quite a few far left nut bags when I used to travel. Now, not as many. The Chair of the FEC could of said that. Doesn't seem out of line. The Chair of the FEC, DID state that.... Regardless of his/her views, the statement stands. Hence the impeachment of the most corrupt to hold the office - ever Trump was impeached ? (Your last line) Or are you just sending more mixed message on the start of the inquiry ? |
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 5, 2019 10:42:21 GMT -5
... The Chair of the FEC could of said that. ... The Chair of the FEC, DID state that.... ... @x illustrates here the amazing ability of some people to not accept the simplest of realities. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 10:47:57 GMT -5
The Chair of the FEC, DID state that.... ... @x illustrates here the amazing ability of some people to not accept the simplest of realities. By simplest realities, do you mean posted on a forum, on the internet ? Or the amazing ability to not believe posted statements, without a link. I'll leave that naivety, to those who find easy acceptance, on statements in line with their views. I mean she just posted that he was impeached, lol. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 10:59:02 GMT -5
@x illustrates here the amazing ability of some people to not accept the simplest of realities. By simplest realities, do you mean posted on a forum, on the internet ? Or the amazing ability to not believe posted statements, without a link. I'll leave that naivety, to those who find easy acceptance, on statements in line with their views. I mean she just posted that he was impeached, lol. I never posted that he “was” impeached. Reading comprehension issue? You want a link? Sure www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/fec-chair-subtweets-trump-after-plea-for-china-to-investigate-bidens.htmlFEC chair tweets reminder that accepting foreign help in an election is illegal after Trump urges China to investigate Joe Biden |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 11:02:12 GMT -5
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By simplest realities, do you mean posted on a forum, on the internet ? Or the amazing ability to not believe posted statements, without a link. I'll leave that naivety, to those who find easy acceptance, on statements in line with their views. I mean she just posted that he was impeached, lol. I never posted that he “was” impeached. Reading comprehension issue? You want a link? Sure www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/fec-chair-subtweets-trump-after-plea-for-china-to-investigate-bidens.htmlFEC chair tweets reminder that accepting foreign help in an election is illegal after Trump urges China to investigate Joe BidenNot at all. It's 'inquiry' at this point. Impeachment proceedings come after. You'll get there. As an aside, your linking a different statement than you originally posted vs this post. Reading comprehension and all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 11:15:52 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 11:28:30 GMT -5
Not at all. It's 'inquiry' at this point. Impeachment proceedings come after. You'll get there. As an aside, your linking a different statement than you originally posted vs this post. Reading comprehension and all. The Inquiry is part of the Process. I’m already there, thank you very much. And if you actually bothered to read the link (beyond the headline), you’d have found the exact same quote. But I understand. trump supporters cannot bother to read anything except headlines. So to save you the effort, here is the full quote. Note that she cited the law.... “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election. This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about 'foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.' They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America's. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation." The law Weintraub cites in her in her statement i s 52 U.S.C. Section 30121 (a)(2), which reads: "It shall be unlawful for a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation... from a foreign national."www.newsweek.com/following-trump-comments-federal-election-commission-chair-clarifies-law-foreign-contributions-1443948 |
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 5, 2019 11:42:08 GMT -5
Nah, he's never on his own. He has his new fixer (Rudy) and he will take everyone down with him before we send that loud mouthed New Yorker back to where he came from. Like this opinion piece states: The much more likely scenario is this: Pence would take office and immediately convince most of the right-wing media universe to come along with him. Fox News would pivot effortlessly from Trump cheerleading to Trump eulogizing and Trump handwringing, and anoint Pence as the savior du jour. If he's clever, Pence could even feign inner turmoil, and claim to be fighting for Trump's legacy. Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity might angrily vent for a few nights, but ultimately the MAGA train would roll on. After a few weeks we'd be right back to hours of breathless coverage about some random campus outrage and wall-to-wall socialism panicking. Outlets like The Federalist and Breitbart would have to accept, and quickly, that it's Pence or it's 2020 oblivion.www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republicans-have-nothing-to-fear-from-removing-trump/ar-AAIgrpO?ocid=spartanntpMsn opinion pieces are just that. It'll keep the target audience on the edge of their seats. "The rest of this report, right after these messages" oh, I know that...just an opinion that might save the Republican party from their suicide mission. |
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Post by ednkris on Oct 5, 2019 13:10:25 GMT -5
Many lawyers agree that he did nothing wrong and ? Only the half of the country that are Trump haters want to impeach... no I will not STFU got as much right to voice an opinion as you do. Nothing will come of this...just more posturing dems rhetoric. Trump will win next year. Maybe in 2024 the dems might get some real candidates instead of the ass clowns they have now the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing Absolutely ---But Trump is doing his job for the american people. We shall see how this shakes out. I'll say Trump will not be impeached he will win the next election easily and the Dems will continue to lose their corrupt minds |
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 5, 2019 13:25:49 GMT -5
The Chair of the FEC, DID state that.... ... @x illustrates here the amazing ability of some people to not accept the simplest of realities. Word. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 13:52:49 GMT -5
the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing Absolutely ---But Trump is doing his job for the american people. We shall see how this shakes out. I'll say Trump will not be impeached he will win the next election easily and the Dems will continue to lose their corrupt minds What part of " It is illegal" are you not understanding? Even that partisan little dweeb, Tucker Carlson, admits there is no way to spin it. "Mr Carlson, who is one of Fox News’ leading presenters, fell short of backing impeachment in an op-ed on Friday but admitted that Mr Trump should not have raised the prospect of an investigation into Mr Biden and his son Hunter. “Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden,” he said. “Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”" www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-tucker-carlson-turns-081704846.html(Hell must have frozen over. I'm quoting Tucker Carlson) |
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Post by Opti on Oct 5, 2019 15:26:10 GMT -5
LMAO! 
 Its a nice thought, but it wouldn't be enough. I have been thinking what might rock Trump's base but it wouldn't be this or treason. My guess is the only things would involve abortion or being caught in a gay sex act. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 5, 2019 16:42:22 GMT -5
the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing Absolutely --- But Trump is doing his job for the american people. We shall see how this shakes out. I'll say Trump will not be impeached he will win the next election easily and the Dems will continue to lose their corrupt minds It's still ILLEGAL. Going to a foreign government to get dirt on the political opponent who can beat you in an election is ILLEGAL. What part of "illegal" is eluding you? Here, let me help...... illegal adjective il·le·gal | \ (ˌ)i(l)-ˈlē-gəl \ Definition of illegal (Entry 1 of 2) : not according to or authorized by law : UNLAWFUL, ILLICIT also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game) |
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Post by dezii on Oct 5, 2019 17:26:39 GMT -5
Many lawyers agree that he did nothing wrong and ? Only the half of the country that are Trump haters want to impeach... no I will not STFU got as much right to voice an opinion as you do. Nothing will come of this...just more posturing dems rhetoric. Trump will win next year. Maybe in 2024 the dems might get some real candidates instead of the ass clowns they have now the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing Actually the majority of Americans are in favor of impeachment according to latest polls...Due to the make up of the Senate and the threat by the Donald to those who are against him in putting forth and supporting alternate candidates in the primaries will keep the Senate, IMHO , from voting to remove him.... Personally I wonder which Democrate can defeat him...so far my feeling is that Biden is the strongest... One of the BS that the Donald has thrown up against Bidens kid is he has stolen BILLIONS...not millions, and nothing has been said about that which is just so obviously wrong...Actually the net worth of both is really not that much...when u consider the big picture. ======================================== While not middle class anymore...because of book deals...lectures and salary..quite comfortable but not at the luxury yaught level... ============================ www.foxbusiness.com/politics/joe-biden-net-worth |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 17:54:35 GMT -5
LMAO!
Its a nice thought, but it wouldn't be enough. I have been thinking what might rock Trump's base but it wouldn't be this or treason. My guess is the only things would involve abortion or being caught in a gay sex act. There is nothing that would shake his base. They'd say "fake news" and shrug it off. Or make excuses like the ones posted here |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 5, 2019 17:57:40 GMT -5
the Chair of the FEC “Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a US election," And the number of Americans who support impeachment is growing as every day exposes more wrongdoing Actually the majority of Americans are in favor of impeachment according to latest polls...Due to the make up of the Senate and the threat by the Donald to those who are against him in putting forth and supporting alternate candidates in the primaries will keep the Senate, IMHO , from voting to remove him.... Personally I wonder which Democrate can defeat him...so far my feeling is that Biden is the strongest... One of the BS that the Donald has thrown up against Bidens kid is he has stolen BILLIONS...not millions, and nothing has been said about that which is just so obviously wrong...Actually the net worth of both is really not that much...when u consider the big picture. ======================================== While not middle class anymore...because of book deals...lectures and salary..quite comfortable but not at the luxury yaught level... ============================ www.foxbusiness.com/politics/joe-biden-net-worthIn a FAIR election (without gerrymandering, voter suppression or foreign interferrence) I believe any of the current crop could defeat him. |
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Post by ednkris on Oct 5, 2019 18:17:21 GMT -5
Absolutely ---But Trump is doing his job for the american people. We shall see how this shakes out. I'll say Trump will not be impeached he will win the next election easily and the Dems will continue to lose their corrupt minds What part of " It is illegal" are you not understanding? Even that partisan little dweeb, Tucker Carlson, admits there is no way to spin it. "Mr Carlson, who is one of Fox News’ leading presenters, fell short of backing impeachment in an op-ed on Friday but admitted that Mr Trump should not have raised the prospect of an investigation into Mr Biden and his son Hunter. “Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden,” he said. “Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”" www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-tucker-carlson-turns-081704846.html(Hell must have frozen over. I'm quoting Tucker Carlson) No your wrong he was asking a foreign govt to investigate illegal activity by a former vp who now happens to be a possible political opponent. Do you think just because someone is running for office that they cannot be investigated for illegal activities..like I said we shall see ...I still say there will be no impeachment. |
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 5, 2019 18:30:24 GMT -5
What part of " It is illegal" are you not understanding? Even that partisan little dweeb, Tucker Carlson, admits there is no way to spin it. "Mr Carlson, who is one of Fox News’ leading presenters, fell short of backing impeachment in an op-ed on Friday but admitted that Mr Trump should not have raised the prospect of an investigation into Mr Biden and his son Hunter. “Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden,” he said. “Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”" www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-tucker-carlson-turns-081704846.html(Hell must have frozen over. I'm quoting Tucker Carlson) No your wrong he was asking a foreign govt to investigate illegal activity by a former vp who now happens to be a possible political opponent. Do you think just because someone is running for office that they cannot be investigated for illegal activities..like I said we shall see ...I still say there will be no impeachment. Do you ever wonder why he hadn't investigated all this before? He's been in office almost three years....and now, all of a sudden, he is worrying about corruption. Instead of calling it an election, let's just call it: American~~For sale to the highest bidder~~ |
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 5, 2019 18:33:33 GMT -5
What part of " It is illegal" are you not understanding? Even that partisan little dweeb, Tucker Carlson, admits there is no way to spin it. "Mr Carlson, who is one of Fox News’ leading presenters, fell short of backing impeachment in an op-ed on Friday but admitted that Mr Trump should not have raised the prospect of an investigation into Mr Biden and his son Hunter. “Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden,” he said. “Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea.”" www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-tucker-carlson-turns-081704846.html(Hell must have frozen over. I'm quoting Tucker Carlson) No your wrong he was asking a foreign govt to investigate illegal activity by a former vp who now happens to be a possible political opponent. Do you think just because someone is running for office that they cannot be investigated for illegal activities..like I said we shall see ...I still say there will be no impeachment. No, YOU'RE wrong. They can be investigated. Asking a foreign country to do the investigating is ILLEGAL. |
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