ken a.k.a OMK
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 11, 2019 20:52:21 GMT -5
In 1980 my military flight to Iceland stopped at Gander to refuel. Wish I could have stayed for awhile.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 11, 2019 21:10:31 GMT -5
In 1980 my military flight to Iceland stopped at Gander to refuel. Wish I could have stayed for awhile. You were lucky you weren't on Arrow Air Flight 1285 out of Gander in 1985. Plane crashed upon takeoff killing all 248 U.S. servicemen and air Arrow Air flight crew members. The servicemen were heading home to Kentucky from Egypt.
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Post by steff on Sept 11, 2019 21:28:52 GMT -5
On that morning I was asleep. I keep really odd hours. I had sent my kiddo off to school, made sure hubby's food was good to go & had gone to bed. My mom kept calling, but we had had issues in the days right before, so I didn't answer the phone. Until about the 5th or 6th call in a row, then I finally answered the phone. she told me about the 1st plane & I turned on the tv right as hubby was getting home from work. We saw the 2nd plane hit. The thing that always stuck in my head was hubby standing there, still holding his lunch box & clean uniforms having literally JUST walked in when the 2nd plane hit. I didn't even get a chance to answer his "what's going on & why are you up?" questions. Then we spent the rest of the morning glued to the tv & the phone. We debated pulling kiddo out of school that day & then the school district announced an early release at lunchtime.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 11, 2019 21:41:32 GMT -5
In 1980 my military flight to Iceland stopped at Gander to refuel. Wish I could have stayed for awhile. The citizens of Gander were ready to drop from exhaustion, and yet, they were dressing up as clowns and throwing birthday parties for the children, because "every child deserves a birthday party, no matter where they are." Life-long friendships were made.
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Post by laterbloomer on Sept 11, 2019 22:00:33 GMT -5
It did change us. But did it for the better or worse? Were we changed forever? People who hated brown people still hate brown people. People who understood that all Muslims are not represented by the extremist that did this still understand that all Muslims are not represented by the extremists who did this. Everyone still hates Hillary and no one gets healthcare. The only thing that has changed is I have to make sure my socks don't have any stains or holes when I am flying and I can't take my water bottle. I think the people that hate brown people got a big shock to their system. They were fine with the U.S. bombing brown countries and contributing to the ongoing wars they live with, they got a real shock to their system when some of the brown people were able to retaliate so spectacularly. I think that has caused a big change for you guys.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 12, 2019 7:50:49 GMT -5
On this date eighteen years ago, I had started to go to work, when the radio said an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center,
I made a u-turn back to the house, turned on the TV in time to see the second plane crash into the other building. I was filled with anger, later showing the Muslims dancing in the street celebrating, did not help. I have a lot of resentment about the Nation tragedy! even today! Then when it is marginalized, by Ilhan Omar, Some people did something. Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed. This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many people beyond Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence.
Instead, all we found were a couple of news articles that described rumors of celebrations that were either debunked or unproven. Trump’s recollection of events in New Jersey in the hours after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks flies in the face of all the evidence we could find. We rate this statement Pants on Fire. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/I watched the bastard dancing in the street, on TV in a news broadcast, , Palestinian's!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 12, 2019 7:59:00 GMT -5
On this date eighteen years ago, I had started to go to work, when the radio said an airplane had crashed into the World Trade Center,
I made a u-turn back to the house, turned on the TV in time to see the second plane crash into the other building. I was filled with anger, later showing the Muslims dancing in the street celebrating, did not help. I have a lot of resentment about the Nation tragedy! even today! Then when it is marginalized, by Ilhan Omar, Some people did something. Some people did do something. That’s a fact. That CAIR sensed this as a possible reason for decking civil liberties is also a fact. The Patriot Act was ready to go. And now that the Muslim woman has been accused of “marginalizing” , for her simple and truthful statement, she is being marginalized too. Yea, that 911 thing is so trivial, I don't understand any importance about it, yawn,, Some one did something, Yawn,,
And to think, that I am by the City of San Francisco, a domestic terrorist, NRA, When she is much closer, to that description,
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Post by dondub on Sept 12, 2019 9:19:35 GMT -5
You are entitled to your interpretation. I see it vastly different as I’m not a right winger after ‘the squad’ like you are.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 12, 2019 9:32:01 GMT -5
so much for the thread not getting political...
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 12, 2019 10:25:12 GMT -5
Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed. This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many people beyond Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence.
Instead, all we found were a couple of news articles that described rumors of celebrations that were either debunked or unproven. Trump’s recollection of events in New Jersey in the hours after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks flies in the face of all the evidence we could find. We rate this statement Pants on Fire. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/I watched the bastard dancing in the street, on TV in a news broadcast, , Palestinian's! You watched the bastard dance? Which bastard would that be? If it was on TV, then surely you can find a clip of it.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 12, 2019 10:32:14 GMT -5
so much for the thread not getting political... Agree, but then it basically lasted a day without a lot of hysteria.... Small steps people, small steps!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 11:11:27 GMT -5
I’m fine with it going political today. One of OBL’s states goals was to bankrupt the US, I would say he was wildly successful in driving up our debt with the actions taken after the attack. “Bin Laden, according to Gartenstein-Ross, had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against. What he really wanted to do — and, more to the point, what he thought he could do — was bankrupt the United States of America. After all, he’d done the bankrupt-a-superpower thing before.” www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/bin-ladens-war-against-the-us-economy/2011/04/27/AFDOPjfF_blog.html?noredirect=on
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 12, 2019 11:45:03 GMT -5
"I’m fine with it going political today."
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Post by dondub on Sept 12, 2019 11:48:18 GMT -5
Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed. This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many people beyond Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence.
Instead, all we found were a couple of news articles that described rumors of celebrations that were either debunked or unproven. Trump’s recollection of events in New Jersey in the hours after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks flies in the face of all the evidence we could find. We rate this statement Pants on Fire. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/I watched the bastard dancing in the street, on TV in a news broadcast, , Palestinian's! What about these dancers OC?
www.mintpressnews.com/newly-released-fbi-docs-shed-light-on-apparent-mossad-foreknowledge-of-9-11-attacks/258581/
September 10th, 2019
By Whitney Webb Whitney Webb
NEW YORK — For nearly two decades, one of the most overlooked and little known arrests made in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks was that of the so-called “High Fivers,” or the “Dancing Israelis.” However, new information released by the FBI on May 7 has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the “Dancing Israelis,” at least two of whom were known Mossad operatives, had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
www.todayscatholicworld.com/mossad-agents-911.htm
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 12, 2019 13:21:56 GMT -5
I’m fine with it going political today. One of OBL’s states goals was to bankrupt the US, I would say he was wildly successful in driving up our debt with the actions taken after the attack. “Bin Laden, according to Gartenstein-Ross, had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against. What he really wanted to do — and, more to the point, what he thought he could do — was bankrupt the United States of America. After all, he’d done the bankrupt-a-superpower thing before.” www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/bin-ladens-war-against-the-us-economy/2011/04/27/AFDOPjfF_blog.html?noredirect=onFrom the link: We decided to spend more than a trillion dollars on homeland security measures to prevent another attack. We decided to invade Iraq as part of a grand, post-9/11 strategy of Middle Eastern transformation. The goal of using terror as a strategy is to create an emotional reaction well beyond the damage from the attack itself. OldCoyote illustrates well that effect. It is common to think that it is only a feeling of "terror" that is the goal. However there is this: Anger is often called a secondary emotion because we tend to resort to anger in order to protect ourselves from or cover up other vulnerable feelings. A primary feeling is what is what is felt immediately before we feel anger. ... We might first feel afraid, attacked, offended, disrespected, forced, trapped, or pressured. link
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 13, 2019 10:10:41 GMT -5
I’m fine with it going political today. One of OBL’s states goals was to bankrupt the US, I would say he was wildly successful in driving up our debt with the actions taken after the attack. “Bin Laden, according to Gartenstein-Ross, had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against. What he really wanted to do — and, more to the point, what he thought he could do — was bankrupt the United States of America. After all, he’d done the bankrupt-a-superpower thing before.” www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/bin-ladens-war-against-the-us-economy/2011/04/27/AFDOPjfF_blog.html?noredirect=onFrom the link: We decided to spend more than a trillion dollars on homeland security measures to prevent another attack. We decided to invade Iraq as part of a grand, post-9/11 strategy of Middle Eastern transformation. The goal of using terror as a strategy is to create an emotional reaction well beyond the damage from the attack itself. OldCoyote illustrates well that effect. It is common to think that it is only a feeling of "terror" that is the goal. However there is this: Anger is often called a secondary emotion because we tend to resort to anger in order to protect ourselves from or cover up other vulnerable feelings. A primary feeling is what is what is felt immediately before we feel anger. ... We might first feel afraid, attacked, offended, disrespected, forced, trapped, or pressured. link I agree on both post!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 16, 2019 8:57:53 GMT -5
On 911, with 3000 deaths, One of the people that had his mother die,, criticized Omar. Omar resounded that she was a victim!! Wow, comparing yourself to people that died or were horrible injured!!! Some one did something.
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