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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 12:04:41 GMT -5
no same thing. Hush money or you bad money all the same lol. Not the samething. The Cinton/Jones case was in the courts before settled out of court. Stormy's payment was never part of a court hearing. Paula JonesWhy do you make shit up, ednkris? Put kris on-maybe (s)he won't make shit up. What are you talking about? I don't make shit up...simply pointed out that Clinton had to pay for his actions the same as Trump no difference like Jones lawyers says payment is evidence of his guilt, same as Trump his payment to stormy is evidence of his guilt. Try blowing smoke up someone else's ass.
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Post by dondub on Aug 11, 2019 12:06:27 GMT -5
Well geez ed...I either take the opinion of a naive Trump cultist that believes the only truthful news media is Faux News, or the allegations of 30 victims dating back many, many years. Plus you can throw in his own verbatim comments about just kissing women whenever, barging in on half dressed or naked teens, and his comment on video that he just grabs women by the vulva. Although you probably write that off as “locker room braggadocio “. So obviously the real question is how does someone like you know? no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man The victims and the perp know for starters. You have claimed there are no victims. How do you know IS the question.
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 12:10:33 GMT -5
no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man The victims and the perp know for starters. You have claimed there are no victims. How do you know IS the question. claiming to be a victim and being one is 2 different things....Hummmmm maybe since trump may have been falsely accused maybe he is the victim. Sadly no one knows
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 11, 2019 12:10:38 GMT -5
Well geez ed...I either take the opinion of a naive Trump cultist that believes the only truthful news media is Faux News, or the allegations of 30 victims dating back many, many years. Plus you can throw in his own verbatim comments about just kissing women whenever, barging in on half dressed or naked teens, and his comment on video that he just grabs women by the vulva. Although you probably write that off as “locker room braggadocio “. So obviously the real question is how does someone like you know? no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man BS!!! You aren't a woman, you have no idea what most of us have put up with over the years....he's guilty!, he's nasty!
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 11, 2019 12:12:12 GMT -5
lol. Not the samething. The Cinton/Jones case was in the courts before settled out of court. Stormy's payment was never part of a court hearing. Paula JonesWhy do you make shit up, ednkris? Put kris on-maybe (s)he won't make shit up. What are you talking about? I don't make shit up...simply pointed out that Clinton had to pay for his actions the same as Trump no difference like Jones lawyers says payment is evidence of his guilt, same as Trump his payment to stormy is evidence of his guilt. Try blowing smoke up someone else's ass. The money Clinton paid out was during a well publicized court case with Jones. The money trump paid out was behind closed doors so American voters wouldn't know about the hush payments to Daniels. A really big difference. It really is.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 11, 2019 12:16:02 GMT -5
no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man The victims and the perp know for starters. You have claimed there are no victims. How do you know IS the question. Didn't ednkris state a couple months back Hillary Clinton should be behind bars? What happened to ednkris's innocent until proven guilty motto? And there wasn't even a trial let alone charges again HRC.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 11, 2019 12:21:49 GMT -5
Sure, women always make up allegations about the rich and powerful.... Donald Trump has a question. Speaking at a rally Friday in North Carolina, Trump wondered aloud why 15 women have accused him of sexually assaulting them but none has come forward to charge President Barack Obama with the same offense.
The Republican presidential nominee said:
"Look, Obama is an incompetent. He’s an incompetent president. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he’s out campaigning all day long. He’s talking about me like he knows me. I don’t know him; he doesn’t know me.
Why doesn’t some woman maybe come up and say what they say falsely about me, they could say about him? They could say it about anybody. They could say it about anybody. I’ll tell you what, he better be careful, because they could say it about anybody. Anybody at all.
But Obama is an incompetent. As a president he’s about as bad as it gets. Look at what’s happening, how Iran is taunting us. Look at the world. "
Since the flood of accusations began against him earlier this week, Trump has not only denied the claims but leveled personal attacks against the women making them. ("Believe me, she would not be my first choice," Trump said about one of the women today.)www.vox.com/2016/10/14/13289202/donald-trump-obama-sexual-assaultSo, how many women went after Obama with accusations of sexual misconduct? Let's count them.......ummm, zero. Trump is guilty as hell.
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Post by dondub on Aug 11, 2019 12:34:34 GMT -5
The victims and the perp know for starters. You have claimed there are no victims. How do you know IS the question. claiming to be a victim and being one is 2 different things....Hummmmm maybe since trump may have been falsely accused maybe he is the victim. Sadly no one knows Claiming to be a victim because you ARE a victim is maybe not a false accusation. So to say “no one knows” is to completely devalue these women for what they do know. This is the typical misogynistic response from the male of the species. Oh well...just grab ‘em by the vulva Ed.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Aug 11, 2019 13:15:52 GMT -5
I have a problem with anyone saying it this way--including Joe Biden.
There's an assumption though that poor kids aren't smart. Why Joe would think that white kids aren't poor is weird.
But, I'm just a lowly educator. He misspoke. He caught it, and corrected it. He followed up almost immediately with "wealthy kids", showing that the line was supposed to be poor kids were just as smart as wealthy kids. Do you have a problem with that statement? Contrast that with Trump who, when he says things that are indeed profoundly stupid, either blames it on the teleprompter or, more often, doubles down on the stupid remark. I don't agree that he "corrected" it. He continued to talk about race. Yes, I have problem with this discourse. I've spent my entire career working in high-poverty school districts. I have a problem with someone talking about some kids being "as smart as" other kids. That's not the appropriate discussion. I understand that he could have meant that educators should not teach kids who are raised in poverty at a lower standard than kids who are raised by middle class, college educated parents. But that's not what he said. And in the link in the original post, I don't see that he corrected his statement as much as continued the statement. I don't dislike Joe Biden. I will vote for him for the presidency if he's the Democratic nominee. But the conversation shouldn't stem from race and socio-economic status. It should stem from how parents need to give their children opportunities in literacy. A child who is read to every day has heard over a million more words than a child who is rarely exposed to books. That doesn't have to do with race.
I agree and have read the research that low-literacy-exposure students are able to "catch up" to high-literacy-exposure students. I also personally know teachers who don't believe they can get a child caught up due to lack of parental support. I'm tired of trying to make assumptions about what a pundit is actually talking about. Is that what he was talking about? I don't know. I know that he said poor kids are as smart as white kids. As wealthy kids. As Asian kids. My issue is that he brought race into at all. My issue is someone making broad statements about education without proposing solutions. If I'm going to negatively judge Trump for similar gaffes--even when he and his supporters correct or translate it afterwards--I need to be consistent in judging others for such statements.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 11, 2019 15:09:41 GMT -5
He misspoke. He caught it, and corrected it. He followed up almost immediately with "wealthy kids", showing that the line was supposed to be poor kids were just as smart as wealthy kids. Do you have a problem with that statement? Contrast that with Trump who, when he says things that are indeed profoundly stupid, either blames it on the teleprompter or, more often, doubles down on the stupid remark. I don't agree that he "corrected" it. He continued to talk about race. Yes, I have problem with this discourse. I've spent my entire career working in high-poverty school districts. I have a problem with someone talking about some kids being "as smart as" other kids. That's not the appropriate discussion. I understand that he could have meant that educators should not teach kids who are raised in poverty at a lower standard than kids who are raised by middle class, college educated parents. But that's not what he said. And in the link in the original post, I don't see that he corrected his statement as much as continued the statement. I don't dislike Joe Biden. I will vote for him for the presidency if he's the Democratic nominee. But the conversation shouldn't stem from race and socio-economic status. It should stem from how parents need to give their children opportunities in literacy. A child who is read to every day has heard over a million more words than a child who is rarely exposed to books. That doesn't have to do with race.
I agree and have read the research that low-literacy-exposure students are able to "catch up" to high-literacy-exposure students. I also personally know teachers who don't believe they can get a child caught up due to lack of parental support. I'm tired of trying to make assumptions about what a pundit is actually talking about. Is that what he was talking about? I don't know. I know that he said poor kids are as smart as white kids. As wealthy kids. As Asian kids. My issue is that he brought race into at all. My issue is someone making broad statements about education without proposing solutions. If I'm going to negatively judge Trump for similar gaffes--even when he and his supporters correct or translate it afterwards--I need to be consistent in judging others for such statements. I honestly don't see how you can say that. He caught himself immediately. The next words out of his mouth were "wealthy kids" in an effort to correct the misstatement. He also included "black kids, Asian kids" to bring everybody into the comparison rather than leaving the "white kids" remark to stand by itself, but the line itself was not supposed to be about race at all. Note also that the remark was made at a town hall hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition. It does not excuse the misstatement, but he was in effect speaking to the parents of Asian and Latino students. While Asian families may be in good shape financially, I would bet that most Latino kids are from lower income families as compared to most white kids. I haven't been in the schools for a long time, but I would guess that a substantial number of minority parents don't think their kids get the same breaks or the same efforts on their behalf as white kids do. Was it an unfortunate slip? Of course. Was it in any way a racist or even racial insult? No. If you want to deduce what someone in fact means, look at their history. One candidate (Trump) has a long history of racial and racist remarks, so it is easy to believe he means it exactly that way. One (Biden) does not.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Aug 11, 2019 19:14:14 GMT -5
Yes Biden made a gaffe and he corrected himself immediately. And I don’t think it indicates anything particularly sinister. But if a conservative guy had said exactly the same words, half the people on this board and most of the mainstream media would take it as evidence that he was a white supremacist.
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 19:38:46 GMT -5
Sure, women always make up allegations about the rich and powerful.... Donald Trump has a question. Speaking at a rally Friday in North Carolina, Trump wondered aloud why 15 women have accused him of sexually assaulting them but none has come forward to charge President Barack Obama with the same offense.
The Republican presidential nominee said:
"Look, Obama is an incompetent. He’s an incompetent president. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he’s out campaigning all day long. He’s talking about me like he knows me. I don’t know him; he doesn’t know me.
Why doesn’t some woman maybe come up and say what they say falsely about me, they could say about him? They could say it about anybody. They could say it about anybody. I’ll tell you what, he better be careful, because they could say it about anybody. Anybody at all.
But Obama is an incompetent. As a president he’s about as bad as it gets. Look at what’s happening, how Iran is taunting us. Look at the world. "
Since the flood of accusations began against him earlier this week, Trump has not only denied the claims but leveled personal attacks against the women making them. ("Believe me, she would not be my first choice," Trump said about one of the women today.)www.vox.com/2016/10/14/13289202/donald-trump-obama-sexual-assaultSo, how many women went after Obama with accusations of sexual misconduct? Let's count them.......ummm, zero. Trump is guilty as hell. i think you missed the point
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 19:40:04 GMT -5
no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man BS!!! You aren't a woman, you have no idea what most of us have put up with over the years....he's guilty!, he's nasty! why because a woman said so....hogwash
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 19:43:37 GMT -5
claiming to be a victim and being one is 2 different things....Hummmmm maybe since trump may have been falsely accused maybe he is the victim. Sadly no one knows Claiming to be a victim because you ARE a victim is maybe not a false accusation. So to say “no one knows” is to completely devalue these women for what they do know. This is the typical misogynistic response from the male of the species. Oh well...just grab ‘em by the vulva Ed. i would have no problem agreeing with you if they are a victim. Just saying it doesn't make it so. If there was credible proof that Trump did rape a woman i would want impeached and prosecuted after his term. These allegations were a long time ago no proof then none now why do you think the dems in power don't run with any of this---because it's bullshit
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 19:46:11 GMT -5
The victims and the perp know for starters. You have claimed there are no victims. How do you know IS the question. Didn't ednkris state a couple months back Hillary Clinton should be behind bars? What happened to ednkris's innocent until proven guilty motto? And there wasn't even a trial let alone charges again HRC. personally i think she is guilty of all kinds of misgivings. Especially wiping the servers, but if they want to give her a pass (maybe not enough proof) then so be it. You don't see me bringing it up all the time.
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Post by ednkris on Aug 11, 2019 19:48:37 GMT -5
What are you talking about? I don't make shit up...simply pointed out that Clinton had to pay for his actions the same as Trump no difference like Jones lawyers says payment is evidence of his guilt, same as Trump his payment to stormy is evidence of his guilt. Try blowing smoke up someone else's ass. The money Clinton paid out was during a well publicized court case with Jones. The money trump paid out was behind closed doors so American voters wouldn't know about the hush payments to Daniels. A really big difference. It really is. hush payments or not who cares he screwed around on his wife, he must of thought some stupid, ignorant voters would that is probably why is did it on the sly./
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Post by tallguy on Aug 11, 2019 20:03:41 GMT -5
Yes Biden made a gaffe and he corrected himself immediately. And I don’t think it indicates anything particularly sinister. But if a conservative guy had said exactly the same words, half the people on this board and most of the mainstream media would take it as evidence that he was a white supremacist. It would depend less on whether he was a conservative than whether he had a history of racially insensitive or racist remarks. With Trump, or Steve King, or some others, there isn't really any doubt. There are other conservatives who would get the benefit of the doubt because they don't have that history.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 11, 2019 21:10:20 GMT -5
Didn't ednkris state a couple months back Hillary Clinton should be behind bars? What happened to ednkris's innocent until proven guilty motto? And there wasn't even a trial let alone charges again HRC. personally i think she is guilty of all kinds of misgivings. Especially wiping the servers, but if they want to give her a pass (maybe not enough proof) then so be it. You don't see me bringing it up all the time. And he's off!!!
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Post by TheHaitian on Aug 11, 2019 21:15:29 GMT -5
The money Clinton paid out was during a well publicized court case with Jones. The money trump paid out was behind closed doors so American voters wouldn't know about the hush payments to Daniels. A really big difference. It really is. hush payments or not who cares he screwed around on his wife, he must of thought some stupid, ignorant voters would that is probably why is did it on the sly./ I don’t know... maybe the ignorant white conservatives that have been trying to force down “family values” down our throats for the past 2 decades I have been following politics at least. Good to know that good old family Values goes hand in hand with screwing around on your wife right after she popped a baby for you, paying the porn star slept with and yes, asking that innocent black kids be sent to jail for life for a crime they did not commit. Fucking hypocrites! But how may I forget, those are the same conservatives that are against gays but in men’s stalls tapping the foot and giving each other blow Jobs. Here even male escorts states their best week is during the RNC convention; all those filthy old married white man... who knew! Hating gays all the white wanting to freaking ride a cowboy! www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2016/07/21/male-escorts-are-making-crazy-money-at-the-rnc/amp/
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Post by dezii on Aug 11, 2019 21:37:12 GMT -5
oooh not phony or false news... links have been posted numerouse times... granted no conviction...dropped accusations...whether u believe it or not, money does talk, does have influence... man was/is a BILLIONAIRE....thats with a capital B...not measly millionaire...just paid off a woman $160, 000 to keep quiet over a tryst.... consider the pressure put on a juvenile threatened with who know what ...as a prostitute, illegal at the time, possible still though not sure how looked at today..and she brought up the rape accusations, plus collaborated by another witness...more then once. Realize u are a supporter and if the rape is no big deal for u so be it...but to just say "Fake news"...phony allegations....come on all ready...To me this one is the POTUS...my POTUS may be a lot of things and I will go along with...but a rapest....? Sorry....not on my watch...On yours...ok...just admit it is no biggie for u...but to claim "phony allegations".....tsk, tsk, ...for shame on u. In your own words Dezii granted no conviction...dropped accusations..in other word
As old friend termed "wind and rabbit tracks",, nothing there no matter how many time you say it There was no conviction because witness dropped the complaint, thus State never charged him...charges dropped twice...There was a collaborating witness...was at the scene..observer….but with out the accuser pressing charges.....As said.....man very powerful, very, very wealthy and proven already unless your going to dispute it, quite willing to spend obscene amount of $ to keep sexual tryst quiet...To believe he wouldn't have used pressure on the accuser or $ to stop accusations is not a far fetched idea...Man is a rapest...that u could care less that a POTUS is a rapest is on u....acceptable to u as long as he is acceptable as your President...so be it...not for me though...and hopefully others too....hope a hope a hope...
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Post by dezii on Aug 11, 2019 21:45:46 GMT -5
Well geez ed...I either take the opinion of a naive Trump cultist that believes the only truthful news media is Faux News, or the allegations of 30 victims dating back many, many years. Plus you can throw in his own verbatim comments about just kissing women whenever, barging in on half dressed or naked teens, and his comment on video that he just grabs women by the vulva. Although you probably write that off as “locker room braggadocio “. So obviously the real question is how does someone like you know? no the real question is how does anyone know. Sorry you can have thousands of allegations that does not make a guilty man Then again, when u have smoke...usually u also have fire.;...just saying.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Aug 11, 2019 21:51:29 GMT -5
I don't agree that he "corrected" it. He continued to talk about race. Yes, I have problem with this discourse. I've spent my entire career working in high-poverty school districts. I have a problem with someone talking about some kids being "as smart as" other kids. That's not the appropriate discussion. I understand that he could have meant that educators should not teach kids who are raised in poverty at a lower standard than kids who are raised by middle class, college educated parents. But that's not what he said. And in the link in the original post, I don't see that he corrected his statement as much as continued the statement. I don't dislike Joe Biden. I will vote for him for the presidency if he's the Democratic nominee. But the conversation shouldn't stem from race and socio-economic status. It should stem from how parents need to give their children opportunities in literacy. A child who is read to every day has heard over a million more words than a child who is rarely exposed to books. That doesn't have to do with race.
I agree and have read the research that low-literacy-exposure students are able to "catch up" to high-literacy-exposure students. I also personally know teachers who don't believe they can get a child caught up due to lack of parental support. I'm tired of trying to make assumptions about what a pundit is actually talking about. Is that what he was talking about? I don't know. I know that he said poor kids are as smart as white kids. As wealthy kids. As Asian kids. My issue is that he brought race into at all. My issue is someone making broad statements about education without proposing solutions. If I'm going to negatively judge Trump for similar gaffes--even when he and his supporters correct or translate it afterwards--I need to be consistent in judging others for such statements. I honestly don't see how you can say that. He caught himself immediately. The next words out of his mouth were "wealthy kids" in an effort to correct the misstatement. He also included "black kids, Asian kids" to bring everybody into the comparison rather than leaving the "white kids" remark to stand by itself, but the line itself was not supposed to be about race at all. Note also that the remark was made at a town hall hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition. It does not excuse the misstatement, but he was in effect speaking to the parents of Asian and Latino students. While Asian families may be in good shape financially, I would bet that most Latino kids are from lower income families as compared to most white kids. I haven't been in the schools for a long time, but I would guess that a substantial number of minority parents don't think their kids get the same breaks or the same efforts on their behalf as white kids do. Was it an unfortunate slip? Of course. Was it in any way a racist or even racial insult? No. If you want to deduce what someone in fact means, look at their history. One candidate (Trump) has a long history of racial and racist remarks, so it is easy to believe he means it exactly that way. One (Biden) does not. I think you're hearing what you want to hear regarding a "correction". Also, I never said Biden is racist. I said I have a problem with what he said as whole. He's talking about something that I've spent 20 years specifically working in. He's not talking about it in an accurate way, and he made a mistake in how he spoke about race.
I also said I'm still voting for Biden if he's the Democratic nominee. I don't equate this statement of Biden's to Trump's obvious racism.
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Post by tallguy on Aug 11, 2019 22:11:05 GMT -5
I honestly don't see how you can say that. He caught himself immediately. The next words out of his mouth were "wealthy kids" in an effort to correct the misstatement. He also included "black kids, Asian kids" to bring everybody into the comparison rather than leaving the "white kids" remark to stand by itself, but the line itself was not supposed to be about race at all. Note also that the remark was made at a town hall hosted by the Asian & Latino Coalition. It does not excuse the misstatement, but he was in effect speaking to the parents of Asian and Latino students. While Asian families may be in good shape financially, I would bet that most Latino kids are from lower income families as compared to most white kids. I haven't been in the schools for a long time, but I would guess that a substantial number of minority parents don't think their kids get the same breaks or the same efforts on their behalf as white kids do. Was it an unfortunate slip? Of course. Was it in any way a racist or even racial insult? No. If you want to deduce what someone in fact means, look at their history. One candidate (Trump) has a long history of racial and racist remarks, so it is easy to believe he means it exactly that way. One (Biden) does not. I think you're hearing what you want to hear regarding a "correction". Also, I never said Biden is racist. I said I have a problem with what he said as whole. He's talking about something that I've spent 20 years specifically working in. He's not talking about it in an accurate way, and he made a mistake in how he spoke about race.
I also said I'm still voting for Biden if he's the Democratic nominee. I don't equate this statement of Biden's to Trump's obvious racism. You can believe what you want, but it defies logic to say that it was not a correction. The next words out of his mouth once he caught himself were "wealthy kids." That indicates exactly what the statement was supposed to be. Either way, you are correct that what is really important is getting the real racists out of power.
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Post by dondub on Aug 11, 2019 23:12:14 GMT -5
Out of 4000 lawsuit you produce one,, all the rest of them fraudulent?? You can quite easily find millions worth of settlements other than Trump U. and the $24 million you can’t seem to acknowledge. But I’m in central Oregon on my phone and you still have yet to teach me how to cut and paste on my phone. Perhaps you should get it together and easily find it for yourself. Did you bother to do the research yet?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 12, 2019 20:22:24 GMT -5
Claiming to be a victim because you ARE a victim is maybe not a false accusation. So to say “no one knows” is to completely devalue these women for what they do know. This is the typical misogynistic response from the male of the species. Oh well...just grab ‘em by the vulva Ed. i would have no problem agreeing with you if they are a victim. Just saying it doesn't make it so. If there was credible proof that Trump did rape a woman i would want impeached and prosecuted after his term. These allegations were a long time ago no proof then none now why do you think the dems in power don't run with any of this---because it's bullshit first of all, rape is a higher evidence threshold than sexual assault. just pointing that out. nobody accused Trump of rape, ttbomk.
second, if it is bullshit, why did he say it? I am willing to entertain the argument- but why?
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Post by ednkris on Aug 12, 2019 20:54:33 GMT -5
i would have no problem agreeing with you if they are a victim. Just saying it doesn't make it so. If there was credible proof that Trump did rape a woman i would want impeached and prosecuted after his term. These allegations were a long time ago no proof then none now why do you think the dems in power don't run with any of this---because it's bullshit first of all, rape is a higher evidence threshold than sexual assault. just pointing that out. nobody accused Trump of rape, ttbomk.
second, if it is bullshit, why did he say it? I am willing to entertain the argument- but why?
not by the law but by certain members of this board who already has him guilty
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 12, 2019 21:09:44 GMT -5
first of all, rape is a higher evidence threshold than sexual assault. just pointing that out. nobody accused Trump of rape, ttbomk.
second, if it is bullshit, why did he say it? I am willing to entertain the argument- but why?
not by the law but by certain members of this board who already has him guiltyDidn't ednkris state a couple months back Hillary Clinton should be behind bars? What happened to ednkris's innocent until proven guilty motto? And there wasn't even a trial let alone charges again HRC. personally i think she is guilty of all kinds of misgivings. Especially wiping the servers, but if they want to give her a pass (maybe not enough proof) then so be it. You don't see me bringing it up all the time. Physician, heal thyself.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 12, 2019 21:18:47 GMT -5
first of all, rape is a higher evidence threshold than sexual assault. just pointing that out. nobody accused Trump of rape, ttbomk.
second, if it is bullshit, why did he say it? I am willing to entertain the argument- but why?
not by the law but by certain members of this board who already has him guilty why did he say it, Ed?
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Post by ednkris on Aug 12, 2019 21:25:23 GMT -5
not by the law but by certain members of this board who already has him guilty why did he say it, Ed? we can play the 5 whys....what is the point your getting at
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Post by dondub on Aug 12, 2019 21:37:11 GMT -5
i would have no problem agreeing with you if they are a victim. Just saying it doesn't make it so. If there was credible proof that Trump did rape a woman i would want impeached and prosecuted after his term. These allegations were a long time ago no proof then none now why do you think the dems in power don't run with any of this---because it's bullshit first of all, rape is a higher evidence threshold than sexual assault. just pointing that out. nobody accused Trump of rape, ttbomk.
second, if it is bullshit, why did he say it? I am willing to entertain the argument- but why?
The first Trump wife gave a legal deposition that he raped her because her scalp reduction specialist created a pain ful situation. She recanted as part of the multimillion dollar divorce settlement.
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