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Post by steff on Jul 28, 2019 21:59:14 GMT -5
There's been a mass shooting/active shooter at the Gilroy Garlic festival in California.
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Post by steff on Jul 28, 2019 23:09:01 GMT -5
Well, guess everyone is just over it & doesn't give a shit about yet ANOTHER mass shooting. So this is the America we're just supposed to live with?
Current numbers are 3 dead & 11 wounded. Death count not high enough to get any attention? What, does the death count need to be at least double digits to get anyone to fucking pay attention?
And the dickhead in chief is wandering around like an old lost grampa retweeting satire accounts like they are real & agree with him.
Are we even worth saving as a country anymore? Doesn't look much like it or like anyone really cares anymore.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 28, 2019 23:42:09 GMT -5
Way to spoil a city's main event. I did hear one person is in custody.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Jul 29, 2019 0:47:44 GMT -5
Well lets give them some thoughts and prayers that seems to work well. Why not some common sense laws about certain type of weapons and back ground checks. I bet that might do a bit more. Oh well just me and life goes on with the orange man. He probably doesn't even know since he lives in his own tweet world.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2019 1:01:12 GMT -5
one shooter is arrested and injured. other POSSIBLE shooter is loose.
3 people dead, including one child. 12 people injured.
that is what I heard on the radio coming home today. this is about a 3 hour drive from my house.
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Post by steff on Jul 29, 2019 1:12:45 GMT -5
6 year old boy is dead, but hey, that's the price we pay to be Americans right? He should have had a gun to protect himself. He went to a public event so that's on him right? He was of Hispanic decent, so tell us how he was illegal and deserved it. That's what "conservatives" say about brown kids dying now days.
Witnesses say the shooter was a white guy. SHOCKER! Who'd have thunk it?
Where are all our gun nuts so they can verify their talking points on mass shootings & dead brown kids? Come on assholes! There's a tragedy unfolding and you fucktards are sleeping on the job. Your administration needs you to put out the talking points and deflect from having even a discussion about sensible gun laws.
I am so sick and tired of seeing this happen & the stupid "thoughts and prayers" bullshit being shoveled by gun nuts, paid off GOP representatives, and NRA brainwashed assholes. And yes, I'm furious about it right now.
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Post by steff on Jul 29, 2019 1:14:26 GMT -5
one shooter is arrested and injured. other POSSIBLE shooter is loose. 3 people dead, including one child. 12 people injured. that is what I heard on the radio coming home today. this is about a 3 hour drive from my house. shooter is dead according to the police press conference. Some reports of a 2nd shooter/accomplice, but not confirmed. Shooter cut thru a fence to avoid security.
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 29, 2019 8:09:50 GMT -5
I didn't hear about this until I got up at 4am today. found out a little later that a friend was there, she left about 45min before the shooting started. so happy to know she is safe, so awful to hear that we've lost more innocent people to the handiwork of crazy people with guns.
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Post by swamp on Jul 29, 2019 10:19:21 GMT -5
I just don't understand why all these thoughts and prayers aren't working.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2019 10:37:04 GMT -5
(crickets)
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Post by Tiny on Jul 29, 2019 10:52:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure we are the "Home of the Free" anymore.... it's like one of the rights we are so proud of is being slowly taken away from us.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 29, 2019 11:07:36 GMT -5
The death of our children is the price we pay for the right to bear and own firearms. The parents of these dead children should be proud of their kids' sacrifices and continue to support the Second Amendment.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 29, 2019 11:50:58 GMT -5
There's been a mass shooting/active shooter at the Gilroy Garlic festival in California.
But wait...there's more! Two mass shootings for the price of one! Just pay separate shipping and handling. Gunfire rang out from a Brooklyn park's playground around 11 p.m. Saturday night, authorities said, shortly after the second night of the "Old Timers" festival had just drawn to a close. A 38-year-old man was killed. The wounded victims ranged from 21 to 55 years old. The Old Timers event in Brooklyn's Brownsville neighborhood features local artists and musicians. www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/two-shootings-coast-to-coast/index.html
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Post by bean29 on Jul 29, 2019 11:56:39 GMT -5
www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2019/07/27/sams-club-shooting-near-walmart-franklin-one-shot-one-arrested/1849446001/
My DH went to Sam's club to pick up a prescription on Saturday. He arrived right about the time the police did. This was a dispute over a parking spot. The shooter apparently thought he should have gotten the spot, so he took out his gun and shot the other person. Over a parking spot.
Franklin, WI is an affluent community bordering lower income sections of the city of Milwaukee. It is by no means in a dead/dying/low income/or deteriorated section of the city. This is a vibrant and thriving shopping area. Some people on my neighborhood pages said - oh well Walmart - what do you expect - only low life people shop there. I was like WTF, my in-laws go there all the time for prescriptions - it is noticeably cheaper. (Sam's not Walmart, but they shop at Wally world too). As in the case in many areas, Sam's and Wal Mart are right next to each other here.
DH now carries a gun back and forth to his office. So I am sure he had his gun on him. I don't know what % of people carry nowadays, but htf do these hot heads know if the person they are confronting has a gun too? Someday we will have shootouts at the grocery store be a common everyday occurrence.
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Post by steff on Jul 29, 2019 12:02:20 GMT -5
Guess either the death count isn't high enough or not enough white people died to have the orange kool aid crew come in and give their talking points. A dead 6 year old Hispanic boy isn't enough to need to defend their 2nd amendment rights.
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Post by Tiny on Jul 29, 2019 12:20:48 GMT -5
DH now carries a gun back and forth to his office. So I am sure he had his gun on him. I don't know what % of people carry nowadays, but htf do these hot heads know if the person they are confronting has a gun too? Someday we will have shootouts at the grocery store be a common everyday occurrence. Might be better off wearing a bullet proof vest. In general, I'm still not convinced that being armed is anything more than an illusion of safety.
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Post by steff on Jul 29, 2019 12:41:20 GMT -5
Now we know that a 2nd victim was a 13 year old girl. Are 2 dead kids enough to drag the gun nuts out of their hiding spots? What exactly does the death count need to involve & what's the magic number of dead for them to say something? Or have they just run out of "thoughts & prayers" now?
Or maybe they are really showing who they are now & they just don't give a shit about any kind of gun violence, mass shootings, & dead innocent children?
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Post by grumpyhermit on Jul 29, 2019 13:01:56 GMT -5
Now we know that a 2nd victim was a 13 year old girl. Are 2 dead kids enough to drag the gun nuts out of their hiding spots? What exactly does the death count need to involve & what's the magic number of dead for them to say something? Or have they just run out of "thoughts & prayers" now?
Or maybe they are really showing who they are now & they just don't give a shit about any kind of gun violence, mass shootings, & dead innocent children?
A single digit death count doesn't even scratch the national awareness anymore. When we let the murder of 20 children go by without much more than hand wringing, the writing was on the wall.
They've shown that the only thing they care about is their guns. The big difference now is they know they have a friend in the White House. Not that the last administration was particularly hostile to them, but it was a nice straw man to drag out and stir up the base. Both sides have shown they have little interest in pursuing meaningful gun reform.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 29, 2019 13:06:54 GMT -5
Now we know that a 2nd victim was a 13 year old girl. Are 2 dead kids enough to drag the gun nuts out of their hiding spots? What exactly does the death count need to involve & what's the magic number of dead for them to say something? Or have they just run out of "thoughts & prayers" now?
Or maybe they are really showing who they are now & they just don't give a shit about any kind of gun violence, mass shootings, & dead innocent children?
It's a false flag operation...nobody got shot. It's a hoax by the "anti-gun nuts" to destroy decent peoples' second amendment rights.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 29, 2019 13:27:09 GMT -5
we don't even need to guess, but here is a set of guesses:
1) disgruntled white guy 2) legally purchased assault rifle 3) racist tweets or FB posts
and no, I haven't looked it up yet. it is just too easy to guess.
I would LOVE to be wrong. please let me be wrong.
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Post by steff on Jul 29, 2019 13:31:18 GMT -5
we don't even need to guess, but here is a set of guesses: 1) disgruntled white guy 2) legally purchased assault rifle 3) racist tweets or FB posts and no, I haven't looked it up yet. it is just too easy to guess. I would LOVE to be wrong. please let me be wrong. #2 assault rifle legally purchased in Nevada 19 days before he used it in a mass shooting.
#3 yep. He made posts shortly before he began the shooting. Apparently hated Hispanics and Liberals.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 29, 2019 13:35:58 GMT -5
Now we know that a 2nd victim was a 13 year old girl. Are 2 dead kids enough to drag the gun nuts out of their hiding spots? What exactly does the death count need to involve & what's the magic number of dead for them to say something? Or have they just run out of "thoughts & prayers" now?
Or maybe they are really showing who they are now & they just don't give a shit about any kind of gun violence, mass shootings, & dead innocent children?
If it was an illegal doing the shooting Fox news would have this splashed all over their website. The Tweeter in Chief would be making flaming tweets on the hour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:22:27 GMT -5
Well, guess everyone is just over it & doesn't give a shit about yet ANOTHER mass shooting. So this is the America we're just supposed to live with?
Current numbers are 3 dead & 11 wounded. Death count not high enough to get any attention? What, does the death count need to be at least double digits to get anyone to fucking pay attention?
And the dickhead in chief is wandering around like an old lost grampa retweeting satire accounts like they are real & agree with him.
Are we even worth saving as a country anymore? Doesn't look much like it or like anyone really cares anymore.
I care. When I drove into town this morning, I double checked that my .38 was fully loaded, instead of just strapping it on like I usually do, after seeing the news this morning. People are crazy and you never know what might happen. Sad day all around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:25:30 GMT -5
DH now carries a gun back and forth to his office. So I am sure he had his gun on him. I don't know what % of people carry nowadays, but htf do these hot heads know if the person they are confronting has a gun too? Someday we will have shootouts at the grocery store be a common everyday occurrence. Might be better off wearing a bullet proof vest. In general, I'm still not convinced that being armed is anything more than an illusion of safety. No illusion. Phone in pocket, situational awareness. Practice, practice, practice. Kind of like how driving used to be...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:29:10 GMT -5
Now we know that a 2nd victim was a 13 year old girl. Are 2 dead kids enough to drag the gun nuts out of their hiding spots? What exactly does the death count need to involve & what's the magic number of dead for them to say something? Or have they just run out of "thoughts & prayers" now?
Or maybe they are really showing who they are now & they just don't give a shit about any kind of gun violence, mass shootings, & dead innocent children?
If it was an illegal doing the shooting Fox news would have this splashed all over their website. The Tweeter in Chief would be making flaming tweets on the hour.
And CNN wouldn't of covered it. As explained in the second post, certain target audiences, really don't care.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 29, 2019 14:31:17 GMT -5
... ... situational awareness. ... when in Merican, be aware that there is a Constitutional Right to resolve situations by shooting people. We might disagree on what situations give you the right to shoot, but in the land of the free no one has the right to tell you it isn't appropriate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:34:42 GMT -5
... ... situational awareness. … ... resolve situations by shooting people... In defense of deadly force. Not only appropriate, also legal.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 29, 2019 14:37:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure we are the "Home of the Free" anymore.... it's like one of the rights we are so proud of is being slowly taken away from us. The right to not be shot?
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Post by swamp on Jul 29, 2019 14:40:23 GMT -5
... resolve situations by shooting people... In defense of deadly force. Not only appropriate, also legal. So it's OK to shoot someone over a parking spot?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 14:41:42 GMT -5
I just don't understand why all these thoughts and prayers aren't working. Same could be said for gun control.
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