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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:00:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm in camp "no brainer" too. Even figuring the extra driving of over 50 miles a day as just the 55 cents a mile companies figure for depreciation, gas, maintenance on a car that's worth over $3/hour. Then an extra hour of your time as well. An extra hour for me is sure worth $24.
The benefits on top of that. Even if you don't need health insurance, it sure is nice to have a back up plan if something should happen to your husband or his job.
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 29, 2019 7:50:01 GMT -5
Math is not my strong point but here goes... I'm guessing you currently earn around $22/hr and will go to $19/hr. $22 x 25 hours x 52 weeks = $28,600 $19 x 40 hours x 52 weeks = $39,520 That doesn't take into account the money you'll save in commuting. Does the additional $11,000 offset increased daycare costs? Even if it doesn't your boys are getting older and that cost is going to go down soon.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 29, 2019 16:03:33 GMT -5
Math is not my strong point but here goes... I'm guessing you currently earn around $22/hr and will go to $19/hr. $22 x 25 hours x 52 weeks = $28,600 $19 x 40 hours x 52 weeks = $39,520 That doesn't take into account the money you'll save in commuting. Does the additional $11,000 offset increased daycare costs? Even if it doesn't your boys are getting older and that cost is going to go down soon. Your math seems pretty darn good to me. However, since I highly value my time not spent working, I'm not looking at it on an annual basis, but an hourly one. The commute isn't quite as much cheaper, either, since the gas prices in the city I currently commute to run 15-20 cents lower per gallon than in town. Plus gas mileage for city vs highway driving is lower--there's a lot of factors to consider. Mostly, I'm just trying to figure out if this will be worth bailing on a job after 4 months, and all the ill-will that might create. Someone mentioned I am contract, but I'm not. I'm actually a permanent employee with crappy benefits. I think, if I go farther in this and get offered a job, I would have to ascertain the likehood of my going full-time at current job. (It's possible, as they have someone temping now to help AP catch up on things after a system change.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 16:48:41 GMT -5
People leave jobs all the time. They certainly wouldn't fault you for bailing on a PT job for fulltime with benefits.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 29, 2019 20:50:31 GMT -5
I'm in the no brainer camp as well. People have already listed the reasons.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 29, 2019 20:53:06 GMT -5
Just so I'm clear, you are worried about offending people that have passed you over for full time already and give you crappy benefits? I'm not sure you are being realistic about what your relationship with these people is.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 29, 2019 21:00:05 GMT -5
Nobody is going to fault you for leaving for full time employment and benefits. It's a no brainer.
If they would then that should make you even more motivated to leave.
Remember if it made sense they'd fire you tomorrow with no regrets. You need to do what's best for you.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 29, 2019 21:50:18 GMT -5
I wanted to work part-time. I still do. I'd just like some benefits, like I got working part-time at a gas station 20 years ago.
I'm worried about a short stint on my resume, if the new job doesn't work out. I'm not in love with the prospective job duties to commit to a couple years. I've got a friend who had a couple short stints, and now she's at a crap temp job, because she can't get anything better. I tried to get one of the jobs she left, but they didn't want me. So, she was more hirable than me, and now she's untouchable, KWIM? A short stint has got to be for a damn good reason if I'm going to be stuck there a while.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 29, 2019 21:58:21 GMT -5
Anyone who would dismiss your resume in the future for going for a full time with benefits job over the one you got now isn't a place you want to work for.
Plus you're just getting started again at least to me it makes sense you'd hop more in order to gain skills and progress up the chain.
Going from part time to full time is a logical next step for you. The fact you're current company can't or won't provide that opportunity and you need to look elsewhere is not on you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 22:00:45 GMT -5
I'm guessing there is more going on with your friend than having a couple short stints if she can't get a job now.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 29, 2019 22:41:51 GMT -5
It is something to pay attention to. I think rule of thumb is you get 1 free pass but like Liz said if she takes the full time job and hates it and starts looking soon it can start to look like a pattern.
Even when the reasoning is 100% sound, you don't list out reasons for leaving on your resume. If a hiring manager gets in 20 applications for 1 position, they're likely to dismiss the ones with frequent job changes without much thought. I definitely did that when hiring. There just isn't time to personally screen everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 22:47:26 GMT -5
But she wasn't working at all before, so there's already a gap in employment. What would be wrong with just omitting the 4 month PT job entirely from the resume?
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 30, 2019 7:15:59 GMT -5
I also temped for 3.5 months before the current job. It should be obvious that it's a temp job on my resume, but HR people don't seem to want to really look too closely at these things unless they have to (don't have enough good candidates), and don't see to care too much about being fair. I had a hard enough time dealing with a gap in my resume without adding another.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 30, 2019 7:56:59 GMT -5
It is something to pay attention to. I think rule of thumb is you get 1 free pass but like Liz said if she takes the full time job and hates it and starts looking soon it can start to look like a pattern. Even when the reasoning is 100% sound, you don't list out reasons for leaving on your resume. If a hiring manager gets in 20 applications for 1 position, they're likely to dismiss the ones with frequent job changes without much thought. I definitely did that when hiring. There just isn't time to personally screen everyone. I do the same thing. I do not to waste my time training someone, only to have them leave in a very short period of time. I have tossed resumes of people when I see a pattern of very short stints at jobs.
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 30, 2019 8:00:35 GMT -5
Well, it sounds like you don't really want this full time job anyway and would much prefer to remain part-time. As your husband carries the health insurance what other benefits are you missing out on? You mentioned FSA but doesn't your husband have access? As for not being able to contribute to a 457... well millions of people don't have access to a company retirement plan. I know you won't get a match but you can still do an IRA.
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Post by geenamercile on Jul 30, 2019 8:27:12 GMT -5
I wanted to work part-time. I still do. I'd just like some benefits, like I got working part-time at a gas station 20 years ago.I'm worried about a short stint on my resume, if the new job doesn't work out. I'm not in love with the prospective job duties to commit to a couple years. I've got a friend who had a couple short stints, and now she's at a crap temp job, because she can't get anything better. I tried to get one of the jobs she left, but they didn't want me. So, she was more hirable than me, and now she's untouchable, KWIM? A short stint has got to be for a damn good reason if I'm going to be stuck there a while. I don't think you are going to find a job that is part time and offers the benefits that you want. Make a list of what is most important to you in a job and see which one fits the best. It doesn't really seem like you want the full time job, but you don't want the trade off for the part time hours either. If it helps any I am sure there are times the full time people at your current job are envious of your part time hours.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 30, 2019 8:44:50 GMT -5
and contribute to an IRA. Most likely you will not find a part time job with paid time off.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 30, 2019 8:45:50 GMT -5
Or stick it out at your current job while looking for a part time job that gives benefits. Dh is considered full time at 30 hours a week and gets all the same benefits of the 40 hour a week folks (pto is prorated at 30 hours a week of course). As long as you can take unpaid time off at this place and it isn't miserable (and you're surviving the commute) I'd wait to jump for something more in line with my goals than just leave for something with benefits, but less money and already at the top of that pay range.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 9:10:14 GMT -5
Financially, it makes way more sense to take the full time job, but if you don't want to work full time and don't need the benefits, then don't do it.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jul 30, 2019 12:21:41 GMT -5
The reduced time my kids are in day care is a massive consideration for me.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 30, 2019 15:53:16 GMT -5
I wanted to work part-time. I still do. I'd just like some benefits, like I got working part-time at a gas station 20 years ago.I'm worried about a short stint on my resume, if the new job doesn't work out. I'm not in love with the prospective job duties to commit to a couple years. I've got a friend who had a couple short stints, and now she's at a crap temp job, because she can't get anything better. I tried to get one of the jobs she left, but they didn't want me. So, she was more hirable than me, and now she's untouchable, KWIM? A short stint has got to be for a damn good reason if I'm going to be stuck there a while. I don't think you are going to find a job that is part time and offers the benefits that you want. Make a list of what is most important to you in a job and see which one fits the best. It doesn't really seem like you want the full time job, but you don't want the trade off for the part time hours either. If it helps any I am sure there are times the full time people at your current job are envious of your part time hours. I could. Its not as rare as you may think. Its not like I'm expecting health insurance. My current job was supposed to provide the benefits I desire.. I guess if the they had hired me for 30 hours, I might have gotten them. I could get a job right now at a gas station 1 mile from my house and get those benefits. Not that I want to, but I could.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 30, 2019 16:16:55 GMT -5
The reduced time my kids are in day care is a massive consideration for me. There's that, yet there's working 45 minutes away, over a drawbridge that gets stuck in the open position once in a blue moon, and driving along the lake Michigan shoreline in the winter. I'm just going to try not to worry about it too much until/if I even get an offer. Everyone s input here has been really helpful, so thank you.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jul 30, 2019 17:11:42 GMT -5
Do benefits matter or not? They don't seem to matter when you are talking about the full time job but do when you are talking about the part time job. If your husband carries the benefits why do you care about them with the part time job.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 30, 2019 17:22:03 GMT -5
Do benefits matter or not? They don't seem to matter when you are talking about the full time job but do when you are talking about the part time job. If your husband carries the benefits why do you care about them with the part time job. I don't think she cares about health insurance. She's looking at things like pto and a 401k match.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 30, 2019 17:50:37 GMT -5
Retirement match, PTO, holiday pay, and tuition reimbursement. I would be happy with just the match and tuition reimbursement.
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