OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 8, 2019 23:30:50 GMT -5
Here is a suggestion,, Have the American Men's soccer team play the Champion American Women's soccer team,, Winner takes all the money!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 0:04:06 GMT -5
Screw equal. The women's team should be paid MORE. They're the ones bringing in all the revenue and winning all the games.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 9, 2019 5:53:59 GMT -5
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gs11rmb
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 9, 2019 7:22:26 GMT -5
I'm actually kind of torn on this issue. I think (and hope I'm wrong) that players are compensated based on the amount of revenue earned by their teams. Men's soccer earns much more money than women's soccer. In a similar way that the NBA generates much more money than the WNBA so the players are paid more. That may be different for the national team, in which case they should be paid the same, or actually more, because they progressed further in the World Cup.
I really hope someone can correct my understanding of the revenue system!
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nittanycheme
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Post by nittanycheme on Jul 9, 2019 7:47:54 GMT -5
The articles that are being recently published state that the revenue generated by the 2 leagues is pretty close, with the women's league generating slightly more. And the men were paid more for their early exit than the women for their win. But the articles also talk about how the entire pay structure is different. Although, it still sounds like the women are paid less than the men - its just not as easy to figure it out due to the different pay structure.
The Wall Street Journal reports that from 2016 to 2018, U.S. women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men's games.
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 9, 2019 7:55:40 GMT -5
Screw equal. The women's team should be paid MORE. They're the ones bringing in all the revenue and winning all the games. No they're not, that's the problem. Go look at the revenue each team brings in by participating in the World Cup. The women get paid a higher % of the revenue from that, they just generate much MUCH less revenue at the top line. It's like comparing the best WNBA team with the worst NBA team. You can win 15 WNBA titles in a row, compared to a team who finishes dead last in the NBA for 15 years...the team in dead last still makes a lot more money because being dead last in the NBA still contributes to a league/system that makes multitudes more than the WNBA does.
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 9, 2019 7:57:42 GMT -5
The articles that are being recently published state that the revenue generated by the 2 leagues is pretty close, with the women's league generating slightly more. And the men were paid more for their early exit than the women for their win. But the articles also talk about how the entire pay structure is different. Although, it still sounds like the women are paid less than the men - its just not as easy to figure it out due to the different pay structure. The Wall Street Journal reports that from 2016 to 2018, U.S. women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men's games. Is there an issue of the "leagues"? Everything I've seen has been about the US Soccer Federation and the national teams, not about leagues or club teams. And the revenue generated by the Men's and Women's World Cup, which is where a ton of the national team money comes from isn't remotely close.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 8:08:31 GMT -5
The articles that are being recently published state that the revenue generated by the 2 leagues is pretty close, with the women's league generating slightly more. And the men were paid more for their early exit than the women for their win. But the articles also talk about how the entire pay structure is different. Although, it still sounds like the women are paid less than the men - its just not as easy to figure it out due to the different pay structure. The Wall Street Journal reports that from 2016 to 2018, U.S. women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men's games. Is there an issue of the "leagues"? Everything I've seen has been about the US Soccer Federation and the national teams, not about leagues or club teams. And the revenue generated by the Men's and Women's World Cup, which is where a ton of the national team money comes from isn't remotely close. Total revenue for the teams is almost equal though if you exclude the World Cup. With the women bringing in more money at the individual games.
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gs11rmb
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 9, 2019 8:11:05 GMT -5
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 9, 2019 8:17:18 GMT -5
Is there an issue of the "leagues"? Everything I've seen has been about the US Soccer Federation and the national teams, not about leagues or club teams. And the revenue generated by the Men's and Women's World Cup, which is where a ton of the national team money comes from isn't remotely close. Total revenue for the teams is almost equal though if you exclude the World Cup. With the women bringing in more money at the individual games. Yes, if you ignore the near-total driver of the pay, it's roughly equal. That's like saying my wife and I make approximately the same money by returning cans to the store every year, so it's unfair that I make twice as much as her. But I make twice as much as her because returning cans isn't important in our overall pay, it's our jobs/paychecks that provide the huge majority of that money. The World Cup prize money is over 10x the amount for the men as the women. And the revenue is even more lopsided in the men's favor. There's certainly a degree to which you can make it MORE equal than it is now, but it's never going to be equal while one sport is generating 10x the revenue of the other in the place that both national teams make the majority of their money.
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 9, 2019 8:18:35 GMT -5
Are you talking league revenue? Or national team revenue for exhibition games? Those are very different things with very different entities involved.
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gs11rmb
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 9, 2019 8:40:55 GMT -5
Ummmm.... not sure but I think it's league revenue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 9:07:42 GMT -5
They want it - and they freaking deserve it. Anything else is completely sexism.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 9, 2019 9:29:09 GMT -5
I am glad that the league stepped up on the easy stuff right away - the grass, the travel, the locker room, etc. I hope they can come to an agreement on the money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 9:43:33 GMT -5
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