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Post by weltschmerz on May 31, 2019 15:19:05 GMT -5
Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. Even this? It's so beautiful!
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Post by Pants on May 31, 2019 15:31:16 GMT -5
Welcome to the jungle isn't an angry song for me? It's more like... raucous joy and youthful immaturity? Immigrant song is a rage song though. I think it's the abundance of just straight screaming. That sounds like it is pretty hideous. That doesn't sound like music, but more like just noise. It is not.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 15:33:08 GMT -5
Many of you know I have had profound hearing loss my whole life. Therefore music held no importance in my life. From what I understand, most people cannot fathom this. That said, now that I have cochlear implants, I do listen to music. I tried different types to listen to while I am working. Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. I like jazz but not when I am working. I hit on classic rock for work music. This genre is what I remember people around me growing up listening to. The longer I listen, the quicker I pick up on specific artists. One that really stands out is Elvis. His voice is so distinctive. I got to pondering the fact that I have no understanding of the complete fanaticism that occurred when he played live. Can those to whom music culture is deeply rooted please explain this phenomenon? I do understand that music stirs emotions, particular times and places, but I can't comprehend the depth with which it moves people to tears, screaming, and fainting when attending live events. What comes to mind is images of fans at concerts. I can fathom music not being important to you due to profound hearing loss. I am wondering what kind of classical music you are listening to, because there are so many kinds. I don't recall what I tried listening to when I first got my implants, I just remember that I could not listen to it while working. Its like hating hard rock and deciding all rock music makes you stabby. My Mom believed strongly in education and music. Those were huge priorities for her so I learned piano, cello, and sang in a choir all before I was in fifth grade. It is part of me, but I don't always have the radio on at home, as an example. Music can be like food, evoking emotions or times in our lives. For me as a performer, and even as a listener it is about the song itself - what it means to me and what emotions or feelings I feel when hearing or singing it. I could never understand any lyrics to anything, so associating something to a meaning was lost to me. I was blessed with a very good musical education through school, church, and through youth orchestra. Watching Bohemian Rhapsody the movie for example, brought back memories of my Mom and that time of my life. Me and my two best friends used to sing three part harmony to Queen songs, which apparently was one of my Mom's favorite memories. So listening to Queen now reminds me of my deceased Mom and also good memories of friends and music. P.S. I prefer early classical music like Bach, etc. although I have a few later pieces I like. Most of it is because I played it or performed something similar. In my everyday life I mostly listen to rock and pop. My mom gave me my dad's guitar when he passed away a few years ago. I tried learning to play, but it was just something to do, there was no attachment/feeling/passion to what I was learning. I listened to my instructors talking about the music, and I could tell I was just missing something that is key to appreciation/love for music.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 31, 2019 15:52:47 GMT -5
I don't think I have the writing skills to explain it. Some people have done pretty well already. My dad's a musician, I grew up listening to all kinds of stuff. I was in my early teens before I really got the concept that not everyone knew all the words to Hotel California since birth I've used music to get anger out of my system, to put me in a better mood, to wallow in whatever was making me sad (I have to really watch that one now, no sad music for sad moods, it'll make me worse). I can appreciate skills without something being my favorite, but will listen to my favorites until everyone around me is sick to death of it. Thank goodness for headphones. For me, there's nothing better than seeing a favorite live, but I've never passed out at a concert. Done a lot of screaming, singing, dancing...but no passing out. You miss stuff if you do that. Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. That entire album was my go to when I was mad. If I wasn't in a good mood by the end of you, you might want to run.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 15:54:38 GMT -5
Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. Even this? It's so beautiful! That was beautiful. So I got to thinking maybe what was happening is that when you first get implants, the brain needs to be re-trained to hear and understand. At the time I was attempting to find things to stimulate my hearing. At the beginning everything sounds very mechanical, robotic, and monotone. Since that point in time, my brain can understand and process things better.
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 31, 2019 16:07:56 GMT -5
I don't have the words to truly explain what the music I listen to does for me. I listen to music more than I do anything. Sometimes it's background noise, but usually it's because I want to hear a certain artist or song. I've traveled all over the US, Canada and the UK to hear my favorite performers live and in person. I will do it again for the happiness it brings me. One of the most important things about music has been all the friends I have made because of it, particularly my Paul McCartney friends. I took my first overseas trip to see Paul McCartney in the UK in 1990. I am still friends with one person from that trip. We happened to be assigned to be roommates. I can't tell you how many times we have roomed together since and all the places we have been together. She lives in New Jersey. I lived in Colorado and now Iowa. At first it was snail mail that kept us in contact. Now it's FB after we used to connect via email and Paul McCartney forums. I wouldn't trade my experiences because of music for anything. No song will make me want to clean house. Past little kid songs of the 50's, I don't remember my parents playing music. I do remember they hated the music I listened to as a teenager. While I know fan is short for fanatic, I don't consider myself fanatic. One of the best experiences of my life was the Meet and Greet I just did with David Crosby. Just the two of us, sitting on a couch after the show, talking about our lives. A dream come true and I didn't feel the last bit faint. I felt totally engaged in having an intelligent conversation about things we were both interested in with an intelligent man. chiver78 gets how I feel. I know she gets it.
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Post by swamp on May 31, 2019 16:11:07 GMT -5
Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. I prefer OffSpring's Americana album. My favorite is Motley Crue Primal Scream
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Post by weltschmerz on May 31, 2019 16:30:08 GMT -5
That was beautiful. So I got to thinking maybe what was happening is that when you first get implants, the brain needs to be re-trained to hear and understand.
That's probably it. I'm Russian, and that particular Tchaikovsky piece evokes so many feelings for me. Hope and despair. Wonder and anxiety. The Russian soul. It's one of my favourites. I don't listen to metal. It grates on my nerves, and THAT makes me want to stab someone.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 31, 2019 16:39:07 GMT -5
I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. I do envy the bond with music that I can’t seem to grasp.
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Post by steff on May 31, 2019 17:56:23 GMT -5
I prefer OffSpring's Americana album. My favorite is Motley Crue Primal Scream Mine is Motley Crue's Shout at the Devil. The entire cd is my rage/anger music. Then I'll find my happy place with the Too Fast for Love cd, or just jump straight to On With the Show.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 31, 2019 18:11:25 GMT -5
I am more interested in a song's melody or the sound of a singer's voice. Often times the lyrics don't matter.
For example, I came across Post Malone's song 'Stay'. I liked the melody and the sound of his voice in the song but had to look up the words as he was hard to understand. Rough/tough lyrics. But they don't detract from the melody. I listened to some of Malone's other works and was not impressed.
I like soundtracks too. My favorite movie soundtrack/theme is from the movie Chinatown. The horn speaks to me.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 31, 2019 18:14:36 GMT -5
This is cheesy as hell, but it's my Happy Song. From the guys who brought you "500 Miles".
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Post by Pants on May 31, 2019 18:17:40 GMT -5
I am more interested in a song's melody or the sound of a singer's voice. Often times the lyrics don't matter. For example, I came across Post Malone's song 'Stay'. I liked the melody and the sound of his voice in the song but had to look up the words as he was hard to understand. Rough/tough lyrics. But they don't detract from the melody. I listened to some of Malone's other works and was not impressed. I like soundtracks too. My favorite movie soundtrack/theme is from the movie Chinatown. The horn speaks to me. I’m the opposite. I fall in love with the lyrics more than anything else. A song that includes wordplay and great metaphors? Sign. Me. Up!
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Post by TheOtherMe on May 31, 2019 19:11:30 GMT -5
For the most part, I'm a lyrics person although I do love harmonies of beautiful voices.
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Post by Ava on Jun 1, 2019 7:51:42 GMT -5
I don't consider myself a fanatic but I have a lot of admiration for accomplished musicians, and I like to live vicariously through their experiences.
Just imagine having the level of talent the Beatles had, the capability to change not only the musical world but also society. Their history is truly astounding. I have read their biographies, watched You Tube videos of their performances, of course listened to their music, and also watched documentaries showing Liverpool, the area where they grew up, the London of the 60s, etc. It's amazing that they were just 4 middle class- working class kids with no musical education and they got what they did.
I am now learning a lot about the Bee Gees. I know they are considered second class and people tend to remember them for the disco period, but in fact that was just a fraction of their whole career. The music and voices are fantastic, and I find the brothers personalities and relationship complex and fascinating.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 1, 2019 9:33:31 GMT -5
I have found that I cannot stand Madonna's voice. For the most part, I am unable to connect a song to an artist/band, so when I hear something that puts me on edge, I check who is singing. Madonna always ends up getting skipped. there are certain well-loved artists that drive me crazy, too. James Taylor and Stevie Nicks come to mind. I cannot change the station fast enough! there's plenty of artists I like that I know others don't, so there's nothing wrong with that. the connections to music are definitely a personal thing, and people experience music in widely varying ways. personally, I haven't fainted. I have definitely screamed my head off, sang along and lost my voice, and there have been times I just closed my eyes and felt every note. there's something amazing about standing in a crowd that is just pulsing with electricity, and having everyone around you singing the lyrics with you, back to the artists up on stage. there's something equally amazing when you're in a room where the band stops and the singer picks the lyrics back up a capella....and you can hear a pin drop in the room because everyone else is feeling it, too. I think you're aware of the music cruises I take. the friends I have made over the years have become family to me, that community is something that has further connected me to the music we all love. getting to know the musicians personally deepens the connections as well. knowing the back story behind the lyrics, that's huge. I could put up youtube links to some tunes with powerful back stories if you or anyone is interested. a funny little story about music transporting you back to another time and place. I was driving home on a Sunday evening, with a syndicated radio show on - the Lost 45s. I caught the last few notes of a instrumental song that immediately brought me back to surfing the bench backseat of my mom's station wagon, looking out the windows and remembering the scenery clear as day. I knew without a doubt where we were going, and the time period I would have been going there put me at about 5yo. I took to FB and my music family. I said help! I need to find this song. it's an instrumental, early 80s, kind of sounds like carnival music. it took a couple hours, and a lot of comments on that post, but my family came through. the song? Music Box Dancer.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jun 1, 2019 9:50:12 GMT -5
Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. Even this? It's so beautiful! I think that's a minor key. I have a preference for classical in minor keys, for some reason.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 1, 2019 10:44:23 GMT -5
Classical made me want to stab someone which surprised me. Even this? It's so beautiful! I think that's a minor key. I have a preference for classical in minor keys, for some reason. So do I.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on Jun 1, 2019 16:28:53 GMT -5
Ok, I'm here. For me and my lack of hearing, it's all about the bass. Or lack thereof. If a song is too bass heavy i can't hear, or feel, anything else. I went to Ozzfest one year and my friend and i were three feet from the speakers and we had to move because i thought i was going to have a heart attack. The bass was ABSURD!!!! Zack Wylde was playing, if i recall correctly. I love music. I'm a band nerd so i kinda had no choice. I loathe rap and high pitched singing/screeching. I despise the flute and the piccolo and they make me want to stab my eardrum. Or the person playing them. I'm all for the Mr. Holland's opus experience but within limits.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 16:39:18 GMT -5
Music is incredibly and wonderfully subjective and powerful. I'm working with 4 other folks to find a sound track for our neighborhood Americana fireworks display at the end of June. A song that resonates with me to the point of tears, means nothing to someone else and vice-a-versa.
I embarrass my DH every tine we go someplace where music is played. For me, the best/worst triggers are the singer/songwriters I call poets-Paul Simon, Willy Nelson, Bruce Springsteen.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 1, 2019 21:41:13 GMT -5
I am more interested in a song's melody or the sound of a singer's voice. Often times the lyrics don't matter.
For example, I came across Post Malone's song 'Stay'. I liked the melody and the sound of his voice in the song but had to look up the words as he was hard to understand. Rough/tough lyrics. But they don't detract from the melody. I listened to some of Malone's other works and was not impressed. I like soundtracks too. My favorite movie soundtrack/theme is from the movie Chinatown. The horn speaks to me. It's all about the melody for me, as well. A lot of my favourites are instrumentals, like Vollenweider and Ponty (electric harp and electric violin.) In any case, as you know, I love WorldBeat. I don't understand most of the lyrics, but the melody gets me every time.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jun 3, 2019 10:05:16 GMT -5
Welcome to the Jungle is the best for getting anger out. I prefer OffSpring's Americana album. Bon Jovi's "It's My Life" is good for anger. As is Stabbing Westward's "Save yourself" or at least for me they are.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 3, 2019 12:10:32 GMT -5
I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. I do envy the bond with music that I can’t seem to grasp. I've been a hearing person my whole life and don't experience the bond some people have with music, either.
I never went through the teen craze faze and only ever owned about seven albums in my life, all of them albums my friends had.
The music I like to listen to has more to do with how the voices and instruments blend together, and less with the song lyrics. I tend to listen to a song following along with a single instrument (or voice) following how it interacts with the other instruments/voices. So I like fast moving, rhythmic songs with lots of instruments/voices together, overlapping, sometimes blending in harmony, sometimes separating as a solo from the rest.
It's almost more mathematical than musical. My DH, who is a true music fanatic, thinks I'm weird. Probably, I am weird.
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Post by trippypea on Jun 4, 2019 12:34:36 GMT -5
Congratulations on the CIs! My daughter has been unilaterally implanted for 17 years (she is a soon-to-be college freshman). She never connected to music growing up, probably because she can't distinguish the words as well as some (malformed cochlea), but in recent years she is more often than not found with earbuds in, listening to music! Her taste runs towards modern instrumental, and she loves any music with heavy bass, especially Beastie Boys!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:37:31 GMT -5
My BF and I both love music, but it's interesting to me that we hear music differently. I'm drawn to the overall sound of a song, and I listen to the lyrics. If the lyrics are trash or stupid, it can make me dislike the song. My BF grew up playing an instrument, his Dad plays a different kind, and his brother plays several.
So my BF is drawn to the way specific instruments are played in songs, the talent or lack thereof, and the intricacies involved in a song. He also listens to the voice and talent there, moreso than the lyrics. He hears all the pieces that I don't usually notice.
As others have said, certain songs take me to specific times and places in my memories, as if I was there all over again. It can also make me feel a certain way, which is how I organize some of my playlists. By the mood I'm in, or want to be in. It can help me put some pep in my step, help set the scene when I just want to mellow out, or help soothe me when I'm upset.
I've never understood people fainting at concerts, you miss the whole experience if you're passed out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 21:03:24 GMT -5
DH didn't understand my bond with some songs until I printed out the lyrics and read them to him like poetry, which they are. He has played trumpet and classical guitar so he's more oriented toward the instrumentation, while I'm more focused on the lyrics. I currently have Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" stuck in my head from the above-mentioned fireworks soundtrack review. The lyrics are the soundtrack of most of my life.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 5, 2019 8:00:10 GMT -5
At one time, Paul McCartney put some of his favorite lyrics from his songs in a poetry book. He did poetry readings because that is what his songs really are.
We Didn't Start the Fire is also my life's soundtrack.
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Post by Opti on Jun 5, 2019 16:13:07 GMT -5
I can fathom music not being important to you due to profound hearing loss. I am wondering what kind of classical music you are listening to, because there are so many kinds. I don't recall what I tried listening to when I first got my implants, I just remember that I could not listen to it while working. Its like hating hard rock and deciding all rock music makes you stabby. My Mom believed strongly in education and music. Those were huge priorities for her so I learned piano, cello, and sang in a choir all before I was in fifth grade. It is part of me, but I don't always have the radio on at home, as an example. Music can be like food, evoking emotions or times in our lives. For me as a performer, and even as a listener it is about the song itself - what it means to me and what emotions or feelings I feel when hearing or singing it. I could never understand any lyrics to anything, so associating something to a meaning was lost to me. I was blessed with a very good musical education through school, church, and through youth orchestra. Watching Bohemian Rhapsody the movie for example, brought back memories of my Mom and that time of my life. Me and my two best friends used to sing three part harmony to Queen songs, which apparently was one of my Mom's favorite memories. So listening to Queen now reminds me of my deceased Mom and also good memories of friends and music. P.S. I prefer early classical music like Bach, etc. although I have a few later pieces I like. Most of it is because I played it or performed something similar. In my everyday life I mostly listen to rock and pop. My mom gave me my dad's guitar when he passed away a few years ago. I tried learning to play, but it was just something to do, there was no attachment/feeling/passion to what I was learning. I listened to my instructors talking about the music, and I could tell I was just missing something that is key to appreciation/love for music. Maybe its hard when you are older versus when you are young. Probably doesn't help any, but I have my Mom's folk guitar and don't have much attachment to it either, even though I've tried teaching myself chords and songs here and there. Perhaps it is the environment one first or secondly appreciates music. I had someone just recently share how she remembers her Mom playing 50s and 60s music while cleaning the house and has fond memories of that. Being in choir and orchestra was not just about the music, but about the people you experienced it with. Perhaps with your new found hearing you can experiment by attending concerts, plays, and similar events with music and see if anything strikes your fancy. I used to pick up new music from street fairs and even going to the Mall. (Sometimes cool musical groups play at the malls. Got introduced to a great composer that way.)
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