I never thought I would say this.....

[Value Buy]

but we finished up our taxes last week.
We received a larger refund than normal.
It was because of President Obama"s employment credit!
After we received the lower Federal witholding tax schedule last year, I was worried I would get hit with a balance due.

So, it hurts me to say it.............

Thank you Mr. President!

Although, I do not think it helped the economy recover, maybe we will spend it on something stupid, imported from China and bought in a non union retail business, so it might help some suffering employees in those underpaid non-union shops the union members shop at

Thanks again Mr. President!
Hey-- it wasn't as hard to say it the second time

[ed1066]

Although, I do not think it helped the economy recover, maybe we will spend it on something stupid, imported from China and bought in a non union retail business

NOOOOOO! Buy a gun! Or some ammo...

[Value Buy]

ed, some of those on union retail businesses still sell guns.

Oh, I get your point. Buy something important!

I used to hunt in my younger days. My first shotgun was a 16 guage pump. They don't even make them anymore.
Rather watch the wildlife today, rather than hunt.

[ed1066]

My first shotgun was a 16 guage pump. They don't even make them anymore.

No they don't, and it's a shame. A 16 guage is a good in-between from a 12 (too much recoil for some) or a 20 (not much power). I had an opportunity to fire an old 10 guage duck gun, and the recoil was something else...well, good luck with your refund, whatever you do with it. I'm putting all my spare change into guns, ammo and silver...

[Value Buy]

Apr 4, 2011 23:24:11 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

My first shotgun was a 16 guage pump. They don't even make them anymore.

No they don't, and it's a shame. A 16 guage is a good in-between from a 12 (too much recoil for some) or a 20 (not much power). I had an opportunity to fire an old 10 guage duck gun, and the recoil was something else...well, good luck with your refund, whatever you do with it. I'm putting all my spare change into guns, ammo and silver...

Too late on silver, unless you think it will go to $45 an oz.
Bought a bunch earlier at around $30 to add to my old stock from years ago.

My grandfather, had, I believe an 8 gauge??
I was never allowed to shoot it. Was told, I may take my shoulder blade out.......
Never knew what happened to that gun, but it sure looked good.

[henryclay]

Well, I see Obama's voodoo spell is working just as planned. Give away borrowed money and win over more reluctant souls. Buying votes without spending campaign donations.

Not everybody got the Make Work Pay Credit. Retirees didn't, and "rich" peope didn't. "Rich people are those with incomes over $75,000 a year.

And now he's looking for a BILLION dollars taken out of the economy to buy the next election

The voodoo is working. He's winning over converts.

[Bluerobin]

Next year, I will be thanking Barry too. Most of my income will come from pensions, which are non taxable, dividends, and triple tax free bonds. Barry gave me a tax free ride on the first $20k of dividends, so I will owe very little tax!

[Deleted]

" a BILLION dollars taken out of the economy"

? He's gonna hide it in a shoe? ... lol

[Value Buy]

Apr 5, 2011 8:12:14 GMT -5 henryclay said:

Well, I see Obama's voodoo spell is working just as planned. Give away borrowed money and win over more reluctant souls. Buying votes without spending campaign donations.

Not everybody got the Make Work Pay Credit. Retirees didn't, and "rich" peope didn't. "Rich people are those with incomes over $75,000 a year.

And now he's looking for a BILLION dollars taken out of the economy to buy the next election

The voodoo is working. He's winning over converts.

Henry, I assure you he did not "win" my vote.
I am just impressed he is giving away money to actual taxpayers

[Deleted]

A large part of the stimulus was actually in the form of TAX BREAKS.... did you miss that part?

[floridayankee]

Apr 5, 2011 8:36:39 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Henry, I assure you he did not "win" my vote.
I am just impressed he is giving away money to actual taxpayers

lol value....He's not giving you anything. You're simply taking back the excess that was stolen from you in the first place.

[Value Buy]

Apr 5, 2011 8:51:38 GMT -5 oped said:

A large part of the stimulus was actually in the form of TAX BREAKS.... did you miss that part?

Personal tax breaks that do not go the taxpayer, until a year later, is not a fiscal stimulus that helps an old problem.

[Value Buy]

Apr 5, 2011 8:54:42 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Apr 5, 2011 8:36:39 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Henry, I assure you he did not "win" my vote.
I am just impressed he is giving away money to actual taxpayers

lol value....He's not giving you anything. You're simply taking back the excess that was stolen from you in the first place.

LOL, all I am saying is, it's more than I got under the so-called
"evil Bush Presidency" who took care of people who were paying taxes..........

[Deleted]

"Personal tax breaks that do not go the taxpayer, until a year later, is not a fiscal stimulus that helps an old problem. "

Actually.... for the last two years the tax break was given to tax payers in EVERY SINGLE CHECK.. which is how, i guess, it went so unnoticed...?

[henryclay]

'............ the last two years the tax break was given to tax payers in EVERY SINGLE CHECK......"

That's one way to look at it. Except it was only last year. The previous year the Make Wok Pay Credit was actually an addition to any refund. Last year the withholding was reduced so you DID get a bigger paycheck, (but if you were retired you didn't get the Make Work Pay credit and had to pony up the $400 by writing bigger check to pay for the Make Work Pay credit that other people did get.), and the Make Work Pay credit was meant to offset the reduced withholding on your paycheck. But this year all bets are off. Withhoklding went back up and there won't be any Make Work Pay credit.

You may not have noticed it on your checks because social security taxes went down. That means the Social Security eystem is not collecting as much as they should, which means that social security will go broke quicker than expected.

But who cares? The people that are doing it to the next generations sure don't.

[ed1066]

Rich people are those with incomes over $75,000 a year.

LOL! Hey, that's an improvement from the Democrats' cries of "tax cuts for the rich!" during the Bush admin, which included everyone with an income over $28,000 a year. So, the liberals have now redefined "rich" from $28K all the way up to $75K. Not bad...