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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 31, 2019 23:31:30 GMT -5
You do realize if a bird did drop the seeds there , that would have been a natural occurring event! Yes, it is. However, that still doesn't mean the tree in question is not now growing in a non-native environment. If it thrives, the environment is compatible with its needs even though not native. I find myself wondering how much more interesting these threads might be if you stopped concentrating on being "edgy" and sarcastic and started offering well-researched, serious content. Pondering ... I am not the one that brought up the bird shitting the seed.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 1, 2019 12:38:41 GMT -5
Yes, it is. However, that still doesn't mean the tree in question is not now growing in a non-native environment. If it thrives, the environment is compatible with its needs even though not native. I find myself wondering how much more interesting these threads might be if you stopped concentrating on being "edgy" and sarcastic and started offering well-researched, serious content. Pondering ... I am not the one that brought up the bird shitting the seed. I didn't say you were, did I? I mentioned nothing about bird defecation. There are a number of ways a seed (or many varied seeds) can travel from one environment to another.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 1, 2019 12:44:58 GMT -5
Yes, it is. However, that still doesn't mean the tree in question is not now growing in a non-native environment. If it thrives, the environment is compatible with its needs even though not native. I find myself wondering how much more interesting these threads might be if you stopped concentrating on being "edgy" and sarcastic and started offering well-researched, serious content. Pondering ... That's a euphemism, isn't it? I was using the urban dictionary definition. OC, however, isn't a particularly adept "edgelord".
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 1, 2019 20:11:43 GMT -5
I am not the one that brought up the bird shitting the seed. I didn't say you were, did I? I mentioned nothing about bird defecation. There are a number of ways a seed (or many varied seeds) can travel from one environment to another. Sorry.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 2, 2019 22:05:42 GMT -5
GOP Florida governor enlists new officer to prepare state for rising sea levelFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced Thursday that he was enlisting a chief resilience officer (CRO) to help the state prepare for rising sea levels. He chose Dr. Julia Nesheiwat as the CRO. She will work alongside several other state departments and agencies to prepare for sea level rise's environmental, physical and economic impacts, according to a statement from the governor's office. “Developing resilience goals for the state will help to protect our coastal communities and fortify Florida’s pathway to continued prosperity,” DeSantis said in a statement. “Dr. Nesheiwat’s more than 20 years’ experience operating at the highest levels of government and academia focusing on renewable energy, environmental and critical infrastructure issues make her an excellent choice for this position," he added. In the statement, DeSantis did not specifically mention climate change, but Nesheiwat did. Complete article here: GOP Florida governor enlists new officer to prepare state for rising sea level
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 2, 2019 22:26:00 GMT -5
GOP Florida governor enlists new officer to prepare state for rising sea levelFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced Thursday that he was enlisting a chief resilience officer (CRO) to help the state prepare for rising sea levels. He chose Dr. Julia Nesheiwat as the CRO. She will work alongside several other state departments and agencies to prepare for sea level rise's environmental, physical and economic impacts, according to a statement from the governor's office. “Developing resilience goals for the state will help to protect our coastal communities and fortify Florida’s pathway to continued prosperity,” DeSantis said in a statement. “Dr. Nesheiwat’s more than 20 years’ experience operating at the highest levels of government and academia focusing on renewable energy, environmental and critical infrastructure issues make her an excellent choice for this position," he added. In the statement, DeSantis did not specifically mention climate change, but Nesheiwat did. Complete article here: GOP Florida governor enlists new officer to prepare state for rising sea level Rising sea levels? That's just not possible. There's no 100 year old mark on a stupid wall.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 3, 2019 8:46:47 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 3, 2019 10:11:36 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
Yes. The entire scientific community is just making shit up.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 3, 2019 10:14:36 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
Yes. The entire scientific community is just making shit up. The scientists are 'edgy'.
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 3, 2019 12:12:03 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
You want to know how it's done...go study it!
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 3, 2019 12:30:20 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
A sad but predictable result of a very low standard of public education. Yes, dear, the scientists are making it up. It just popped out of their heads.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 3, 2019 21:26:23 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
Yes. The entire scientific community is just making shit up. Pretty much. Like I said before We have professionals that cost analysis on products, projects, that are being done right, here right now. Cost of building an aircraft carrier, new airplane , the cost of Light rail,
every one of these are tangible objects,, any where from a couple of weeks out to a couple of years out..
They never come in under budget, there are always changes,, to a tangible product, right here right now!!They are always wrong.. So now you want me to believe that a bunch of Professional,, that are forecasting an intangible product, 10, 20,, 50 100 years out.. When you could get a more accurate estimate using a Ouija board,, and dice!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 3, 2019 21:37:15 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
You want to know how it's done...go study it! Why don't you try getting some accurate numbers out of NOAA or NASA. You are going to find that they are pretty protective of thing like that. It is like finding that "Mark" that show Sea Level 100 years ago. Like the scientist, "WE" lost 196 billion tons of ice, from Greenland, the Sea Level went up a half a millimeter, really, you measured 196 billion tons of ice??
Where did they measure Sea Level??
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 3, 2019 21:38:36 GMT -5
Ok, where did they get their benchmark Sea Level, to determine that the water from the melting glacier made the Sea Level rise a half of a millimeter? The same place where they got the 196 billion tons of ice?? Just popped out of their head, And the little guy that runs all around the Earth getting the temperatures ,
how do we know that he is not fudging those number similar to the way Trump, fudges numbers??
A sad but predictable result of a very low standard of public education. Yes, dear, the scientists are making it up. It just popped out of their heads.Wooooo Hooooo glad you are coming around to the right way of thinking!
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 4, 2019 1:52:27 GMT -5
Yes. The entire scientific community is just making shit up. Pretty much. Like I said before We have professionals that cost analysis on products, projects, that are being done right, here right now. Cost of building an aircraft carrier, new airplane , the cost of Light rail,
every one of these are tangible objects,, any where from a couple of weeks out to a couple of years out..
They never come in under budget, there are always changes,, to a tangible product, right here right now!!They are always wrong.. So now you want me to believe that a bunch of Professional,, that are forecasting an intangible product, 10, 20,, 50 100 years out.. When you could get a more accurate estimate using a Ouija board,, and dice!!
Actually, the Phoenix Light Rail project came in on-time and on-budget.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 4, 2019 7:54:15 GMT -5
Phoenix Light Rail If this new sales tax is approved, it would raise $17.5 billion. For that amount of money, you could easily buy a brand new Toyota Prius for every household in Phoenix.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 4, 2019 8:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 4, 2019 12:19:09 GMT -5
Phoenix Light Rail If this new sales tax is approved, it would raise $17.5 billion. For that amount of money, you could easily buy a brand new Toyota Prius for every household in Phoenix.
And we would still have to build & maintain roads and freeways for all those Priuses to drive on. Also, I am not sure we could buy a new Prius for everyone. Aren't there about a million households in the metro Phoenix area? I'm guessing priuses cost more than $17k.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 4, 2019 19:56:41 GMT -5
Ok then we could only buy half the households new Priuses.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2019 0:40:55 GMT -5
Yes. The entire scientific community is just making shit up. Pretty much. Like I said before We have professionals that cost analysis on products, projects, that are being done right, here right now. Cost of building an aircraft carrier, new airplane , the cost of Light rail,
every one of these are tangible objects,, any where from a couple of weeks out to a couple of years out..
They never come in under budget, there are always changes,, to a tangible product, right here right now!!They are always wrong.. So now you want me to believe that a bunch of Professional,, that are forecasting an intangible product, 10, 20,, 50 100 years out.. When you could get a more accurate estimate using a Ouija board,, and dice!!
can't satellites determine stuff like plate tectonics? if so, why not rising sea levels?
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 5, 2019 8:21:28 GMT -5
Pretty much. Like I said before We have professionals that cost analysis on products, projects, that are being done right, here right now. Cost of building an aircraft carrier, new airplane , the cost of Light rail,
every one of these are tangible objects,, any where from a couple of weeks out to a couple of years out..
They never come in under budget, there are always changes,, to a tangible product, right here right now!!They are always wrong.. So now you want me to believe that a bunch of Professional,, that are forecasting an intangible product, 10, 20,, 50 100 years out.. When you could get a more accurate estimate using a Ouija board,, and dice!!
can't satellites determine stuff like plate tectonics? if so, why not rising sea levels? Because it is liquid? It is effected by the Sun, moon, planets, barometric pressure, wind direction, earthquakes, temperature, Passing ships, a large storm some distance off shore, humidity and more! When they are takiing the measurement at 17,500 mph, are they taking it with all the same, as the conditions were when say,, we took those measurements 100 years ago.. That mark on the wall so to speak,, especially when some "Scientist" says the Sea Level went up a half of a millimeter!
Were the condition the same as they were 100 years ago?? Did that satellite measure every pound of the 196 billion tons of ice that melted?
Since when we are talking about the Sea Level rising a half millimeter, you would think we would need pretty accurate measurements. Or is the scientist using a Ouija board and dice??
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 5, 2019 11:54:13 GMT -5
To measure this constant rise and fall of the oceans, scientists use a variety of tools, including tidal gauges, which are placed around the world in harbors, breakwaters and piers. In the United States the job falls to National Water Level Observation Network (NWLON), which has 210 permanent observing systems throughout the United States and its territories. Before computers, the process was pretty rudimentary. Tidal gauges were placed inside tide houses that contained analog data recorders attached to floats. The floats were in "stilling wells" (long metal tubes that minimized waves) beneath the tide houses and the gauges recorded changes in water level. Nailed to one of the pier pilings was essentially a large measuring stick that scientists used to manually observe tidal levels and then compare the readings taken by the floating data recorder. science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/do-scientists-measure-sea-level.htm Oh, why do I bother? This mentally stable poster with Global Transit [sic] Amnesia will just keep yammering about some dumb mark on the wall.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 5, 2019 11:58:13 GMT -5
Best to just agree that scientists use Ouija boards, because nothing sinks in. Absolutely nothing penetrates the Bozone Layer which envelops him.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 5, 2019 18:51:18 GMT -5
To measure this constant rise and fall of the oceans, scientists use a variety of tools, including tidal gauges, which are placed around the world in harbors, breakwaters and piers. In the United States the job falls to National Water Level Observation Network (NWLON), which has 210 permanent observing systems throughout the United States and its territories. Before computers, the process was pretty rudimentary. Tidal gauges were placed inside tide houses that contained analog data recorders attached to floats. The floats were in "stilling wells" (long metal tubes that minimized waves) beneath the tide houses and the gauges recorded changes in water level. Nailed to one of the pier pilings was essentially a large measuring stick that scientists used to manually observe tidal levels and then compare the readings taken by the floating data recorder. science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/do-scientists-measure-sea-level.htm Oh, why do I bother? This mentally stable poster with Global Transit [sic] Amnesia will just keep yammering about some dumb mark on the wall. you bother for people like me, who are genuinely interested.
thanks!
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 5, 2019 20:21:39 GMT -5
Professionals,,, A whole bunch of professionals doing the cost estimates on products that are tangible, over a short period of time,, And cannot get it right!! Tanigable product over a short period of time!! Global Warming,, Professionals and a bunch of them, Forecasting,, An non tangible product, over a long period of time.. OH BOY!!! Which happens to move which ever way the wind blows, So basically, we have people guessing what a bunch of thin air is going to do,,100 years from now,,
when they can not even find that mark( Tangible) showing where Sea Level was 100 years ago.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 20, 2019 0:21:53 GMT -5
I swear they have to be dice and a Ouija board! Ted Scambos, a senior research scientist at the University of Colorado, this year Greenland will add about 1 millimeter to global sea levels through glacial outflow and melt runoff, which translates to about 360 gigatons of water entering the North Atlantic.
One millimeter, huh? Studies have shown that during past periods when Earth was about as warm as it is today, the entire Greenland ice sheet was lost, raising global sea levels by about 23 feet. About as warm as today. Why is it that today it goes up one millimeter, then it was 23 feet,, big difference between one millimeter and 23 feet!!! One Millimeter, grab your rulers,, one millimeter is the first mark,, with that one millimeter increase, run for your lives,, Remember OldCoyote has that High desert land that is W A Y above sea level,,
Call or text O.C. the buy your Global Warming Protection Package before it is tooooooo late,, going fast,,,
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 20, 2019 8:23:00 GMT -5
Because of Global Warming Hurricanes are going to be bigger, stronger, and more of them!! Uhhhhhh, where are they?
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 26, 2019 9:59:36 GMT -5
Didn't they say that we lost 196 billion tons of ice in one week?? They lost almost half the ice in one week of the entire summer, What number are we suppose to use?? Ouija board and dice again!! Is it true that Al Gore has ocean front properties that he has not sold??
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Post by tallguy on Aug 26, 2019 14:51:27 GMT -5
Didn't they say that we lost 196 billion tons of ice in one week?? They lost almost half the ice in one week of the entire summer, What number are we suppose to use?? Ouija board and dice again!! Is it true that Al Gore has ocean front properties that he has not sold??
No. July.
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