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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 16, 2019 22:13:08 GMT -5
Nope, there was an ulterior motive to claiming he was shitting on the flag. That time the racists were hiding behind patriotism because everyone, well every American, jumps up to defend the flag. Kaepernick was clear that he was protesting police brutality against black people and many people don't want to change that but they don't want to deal with the consequences of saying it out loud. Pay attention, it's all about racists trying hard not to take responsibility for their behavior. Out of curiosty, when I complain about the police,, I am a cop hater,,, Kaepernick does it, he is making a statement,,
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 16, 2019 22:16:54 GMT -5
Racism, racism everywhere! You say you're a racist, you're a racist. You say you're not a racist, you're a racist. You say "The hat means what I says it means." Nope. You're a racist. You say "Taking a knee doesn't mean what he says it means." Wrong again. You're a racist.
Voted for Pres. Trump? Racist. Think 'white privilege' is a crock? Racist. Don't want memorials torn down? Racist. Want the border sealed? Racist. What proof do I have of your racism? None. Nada. Zip. My feelings. My gut sense. My intuition. My supreme objectivity. My omniscience. My ability to stare deep into everyone's racist soul and divine their dirty racist intentions.
You can cry reductio ad absurdum all you want, but there's no reduction going on here. These are your actual absurd arguments, writ large.
Now I'm wondering, very really, if you consider Anonymous and me racists because we're debating you in this thread. You seem that far gone.
with some rewording I have said and believe everything on that list. The place you go stupid is when you say there is no proof. The proof has been explained to you often and in great detail. As for you and Anonymous, I think you are a couple of white guys that don't like the idea of losing your privilege. I don't think Anonymous really understands how much he has benefitted from it throughout his life. You on the other hand have chosen a Christian/Conservative belief system that promotes your privilege. I've known that about you for a very long time, this thread just confirms it again. You are losing the argument,, annnnnnd you fall back is,,,, losing your privilege,
Oh boy!!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 17, 2019 2:28:01 GMT -5
with some rewording I have said and believe everything on that list. The place you go stupid is when you say there is no proof. The proof has been explained to you often and in great detail. As for you and Anonymous, I think you are a couple of white guys that don't like the idea of losing your privilege. I don't think Anonymous really understands how much he has benefitted from it throughout his life. You on the other hand have chosen a Christian/Conservative belief system that promotes your privilege. I've known that about you for a very long time, this thread just confirms it again. Don't forget the male privilege! The military draft, that sent how many of us Privileged males to Vietnam!
How did that military draft work out for Trump?
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Post by ednkris on Mar 17, 2019 6:23:51 GMT -5
Don't forget the male privilege! The military draft, that sent how many of us Privileged males to Vietnam!
How did that military draft work out for Trump? Medical excuse . Sounds reasonable. Are you a physician if so did you read his file.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 17, 2019 9:36:31 GMT -5
How did that military draft work out for Trump? Medical excuse . Sounds reasonable. Are you a physician if so did you read his file. “Medical excuse”. Yeah, his “bone spurs” didn’t stop him from playing golf in college....
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 11:04:23 GMT -5
with some rewording I have said and believe everything on that list. The place you go stupid is when you say there is no proof. The proof has been explained to you often and in great detail. As for you and Anonymous, I think you are a couple of white guys that don't like the idea of losing your privilege. I don't think Anonymous really understands how much he has benefitted from it throughout his life. You on the other hand have chosen a Christian/Conservative belief system that promotes your privilege. I've known that about you for a very long time, this thread just confirms it again. Don't forget the male privilege! The military draft, that sent how many of us Privileged males to Vietnam!
You do know that you no longer have the draft and it was feminists that fought for the right for women to serve. And only the poor privileged males got sent to war. Not everyone had a doctor that would diagnose bone spurs for them.
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 11:05:09 GMT -5
Nope, there was an ulterior motive to claiming he was shitting on the flag. That time the racists were hiding behind patriotism because everyone, well every American, jumps up to defend the flag. Kaepernick was clear that he was protesting police brutality against black people and many people don't want to change that but they don't want to deal with the consequences of saying it out loud. Pay attention, it's all about racists trying hard not to take responsibility for their behavior. Out of curiosty, when I complain about the police,, I am a cop hater,,, Kaepernick does it, he is making a statement,, I've never called you a cop hater. I actually agree with you about that.
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 11:07:48 GMT -5
with some rewording I have said and believe everything on that list. The place you go stupid is when you say there is no proof. The proof has been explained to you often and in great detail. As for you and Anonymous, I think you are a couple of white guys that don't like the idea of losing your privilege. I don't think Anonymous really understands how much he has benefitted from it throughout his life. You on the other hand have chosen a Christian/Conservative belief system that promotes your privilege. I've known that about you for a very long time, this thread just confirms it again. You are losing the argument,, annnnnnd you fall back is,,,, losing your privilege,
Oh boy!! I'm not falling back on it. I started with that. And I'm not losing the argument. The fact that Virgil writes books and tries to wear people down does not mean he is right.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 11:34:51 GMT -5
Don't forget the male privilege! The military draft, that sent how many of us Privileged males to Vietnam!
How did that military draft work out for Trump? how did that military draft work out for the 58220 Americans that did not make it back from Vietnam alive and well??
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 11:38:11 GMT -5
That's not counting the one that were wounded and disabled,, or the Vietnam veteran homeless that line some of our streets,,,
How did that military draft work for them,,,, Male privilege??
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 11:39:05 GMT -5
I know,,,,, their men ,,,, they deserve it!!
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 11:48:43 GMT -5
I'm scarier than that. I'm staying informed supporting people that are like minded. Your privileges are being eroded by people like me mwahahahaha
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 12:18:52 GMT -5
with some rewording I have said and believe everything on that list. The place you go stupid is when you say there is no proof. The proof has been explained to you often and in great detail. As for you and Anonymous, I think you are a couple of white guys that don't like the idea of losing your privilege. I don't think Anonymous really understands how much he has benefitted from it throughout his life. You on the other hand have chosen a Christian/Conservative belief system that promotes your privilege. I've known that about you for a very long time, this thread just confirms it again. Don't forget the male privilege! The military draft, that sent how many of us Privileged males to Vietnam!
This is probably going to be too much for you, but do you know why you were at war? Specifically to "protect your lifestyle". Think about the implications of that.
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 12:24:46 GMT -5
I know,,,,, their men ,,,, they deserve it!! Actually it was the women , hippies and far left wing nuts that protested for years to get the men out of there.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 12:42:28 GMT -5
I know,,,,, their men ,,,, they deserve it!! Actually it was the women , hippies and far left wing nuts that protested for years to get the men out of there. Actually,,, I was in the middle of it lived, thru it!! Did you happen to watch the PBS series The Vietnam War: A film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick.
In my opinion, Johnson, McNamara, A host of Generals, Mostly General William Westmoreland,,
Should have be stood up in front of a wall and shot for what they did to the American Men!!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 17, 2019 12:45:23 GMT -5
How did that military draft work out for Trump? Medical excuse . Sounds reasonable. Are you a physician if so did you read his file. Lol! This is a guy who writes his own glowing medical reports and pays a shady doctor to sign them! Bone spurs, my ass! Trump's Bone Spurs Used to Avoid Vietnam Were Diagnosed as a 'Favor,' Doctor's Family Claims people.com/politics/president-trump-bone-spurs-diagnosed-favor/
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 13:06:36 GMT -5
Actually it was the women , hippies and far left wing nuts that protested for years to get the men out of there. Actually,,, I was in the middle of it lived, thru it!! Did you happen to watch the PBS series The Vietnam War: A film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick.
In my opinion, Johnson, McNamara, A host of Generals, Mostly General William Westmoreland,,
Should have be stood up in front of a wall and shot for what they did to the American Men!!
So it's not really to fair throw "it's men, they deserve it" at us Liberal hippy types. We were the ones on your side.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 13:29:38 GMT -5
Actually,,, I was in the middle of it lived, thru it!! Did you happen to watch the PBS series The Vietnam War: A film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick.
In my opinion, Johnson, McNamara, A host of Generals, Mostly General William Westmoreland,,
Should have be stood up in front of a wall and shot for what they did to the American Men!!
So it's not really to fair throw "it's men, they deserve it" at us Liberal hippy types. We were the ones on your side. That was only a retaliation for someone posting about Male Privilege. not necessary sent in your direction.
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 13:37:02 GMT -5
So it's not really to fair throw "it's men, they deserve it" at us Liberal hippy types. We were the ones on your side. That was only a retaliation for someone posting about Male Privilege. not necessary sent in your direction. Ummm, I've been posting about white male privilege...
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 17, 2019 13:49:55 GMT -5
I know,,,,, their men ,,,, they deserve it!! Who was it that objected to females in the military, in a froth of spittle-flecked outrage? Conservative men. Who was it that strongly objected to gays and trans people serving in the military? Conservative men. So kindly spare us the "us poor men" bullshit.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 14:16:02 GMT -5
I know,,,,, their men ,,,, they deserve it!! Who was it that objected to females in the military, in a froth of spittle-flecked outrage? Conservative men. Who was it that strongly objected to gays and trans people serving in the military? Conservative men. So kindly spare us the "us poor men" bullshit. Wonder what the opinion of 58220 young men might have been??
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 14:58:37 GMT -5
Who was it that objected to females in the military, in a froth of spittle-flecked outrage? Conservative men. Who was it that strongly objected to gays and trans people serving in the military? Conservative men. So kindly spare us the "us poor men" bullshit. Wonder what the opinion of 58220 young men might have been?? You really should be ashamed of yourself using dead heroes to hide behind in a debate like this. But if you need to go there, I honestly think they would be on our side. It was the conservative white guys sending them out to die while they stayed home because of bone spurs. Women, gays and trans folks were fighting to join them.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 15:04:26 GMT -5
Wonder what the opinion of 58220 young men might have been?? You really should be ashamed of yourself using dead heroes to hide behind in a debate like this. But if you need to go there, I honestly think they would be on our side. It was the conservative white guys sending them out to die while they stayed home because of bone spurs. Women, gays and trans folks were fighting to join them.Were fighting to go to Vietnam? I don't think so.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 15:06:53 GMT -5
Speaking of Conservative White Men,, Who got us out and who was the power that took us in to Vietnam?
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Post by laterbloomer on Mar 17, 2019 15:08:40 GMT -5
You really should be ashamed of yourself using dead heroes to hide behind in a debate like this. But if you need to go there, I honestly think they would be on our side. It was the conservative white guys sending them out to die while they stayed home because of bone spurs. Women, gays and trans folks were fighting to join them.Were fighting to go to Vietnam? I don't think so. Fighting for the "privilege" of serving, which means going to war when you're at war. So to be clear they were fighting to get you home and for the right to be standing beside you when you did have to go while Trump was getting diagnosed with bone spurs so he could stay home. And you consider Trump your buddy....
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 15:13:26 GMT -5
I have a very close friend that retired from the Army as an officer, who was in intelligence in Vietnam,
He told me that he was in a meeting of intelligence, with General Westmoreland, there when one of the Senior Officers said that we were losing the War, (Which We were) Westmoreland exploded, screaming at the Senior Officer to never say any thing like that again!!!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 17, 2019 15:14:29 GMT -5
Speaking of Conservative White Men,, Who got us out and who was the power that took us in to Vietnam? A better question would be ... Who got you INTO Vietnam? What a useless, pointless war!
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 17, 2019 15:20:02 GMT -5
Remember I was physical degenerate, who passed the test to be a Warrant Officer helicopter pilot, only to be dropped out with a Duodenal ulcer. At the time I was looking forward to serving My Country.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 17, 2019 15:46:14 GMT -5
Remember I was physical degenerate, who passed the test to be a Warrant Officer helicopter pilot, only to be dropped out with a Duodenal ulcer. At the time I was looking forward to serving My Country.
Is that the time they told you you were smart enough to be a doctor?
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