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Post by dezii on Feb 22, 2020 11:35:48 GMT -5
It seems the Donalds War Chest is over $100 million and counting , so I am sure he will not be at a disadvantage if Bloomberg is his opponent... If Bloomberg spends 10x that, he still has 50 billion left. If Bloomberg doesn't get the nomination, he will still work to elect whoever goes against Trump.
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Post by dezii on Feb 22, 2020 15:17:59 GMT -5
Have I said illegals are ok? Actually if they are real criminals, real seriouse crimes...ok to incarcerate them and when time served , ok with me to be deported... However, if the crime is their illegality because they are here illegally or they have traffic violations and such, thus should be deported...not ok by me. There have been too many deported , thinking a restaurateurs in Simsbury, Ct...here for years..excellent restaurant, employer, big on charities and volunteering etc...was deported even though hundreds came forth to ask gov't to not deport...those types, to me make no sense... Never been one to get up tite about illegals..As I have said here before, my next door neighbor is here illegally...Here for decades works for a relative...great guy, has my key for emergencies, I have his...no, not telling u all my address..LOL Yes, (bolded) by your previous posts, including this one. You do know what profiling is, don't you ? I am not all uptight about them as some are, possible u are and it seems the Donald is, {though it seems if they were working for him, till it was reported and became a embarrassment, he was ok about it. What? U are saying he wasn't aware of them? , ...The man knows everything involved in his business's , no matter what he claims and the shredder on his desk was there for a purpose...no paper trails to the yellow haired one. There are illegals....then there are illegals... Profiling? yeah but how did that get into this conversation? I mentioned it in another post...not in favor of and realize if used , authorities useing it could abuse the way it was used...thus causing more problems , but can understand it's consideration in certain circumstances. Bloomberg says he's now sorry he authorized it...not understanding the problems it arose... Believe him or not...Considering as Mayor of one of the countries true major cities..much violent crime at the time, much happening in certain area of city among certain groups of citizens , against certain segments of population...Just saying. I can see the average cop on the street useing the procedure as a easy way to do their job, not worrying about any embarrassment of those stopped or repercussions that possible followed...Not condoning but understanding.
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Post by Ava on Feb 22, 2020 19:31:50 GMT -5
Bernie is leading in the early results from Nevada!!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2020 19:35:57 GMT -5
he was predicted to win by a 2:1 margin in recent polls. if Biden doesn't finish at least in 2nd, he is toast. he might be toast even if he DOES finish 2nd.
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Post by dezii on Feb 24, 2020 8:59:34 GMT -5
I am not all uptight about them as some are, possible u are and it seems the Donald is, {though it seems if they were working for him, till it was reported and became a embarrassment, he was ok about it. What? U are saying he wasn't aware of them? , ...The man knows everything involved in his business's , no matter what he claims and the shredder on his desk was there for a purpose...no paper trails to the yellow haired one. There are illegals....then there are illegals... Profiling? yeah but how did that get into this conversation? I mentioned it in another post...not in favor of and realize if used , authorities useing it could abuse the way it was used...thus causing more problems , but can understand it's consideration in certain circumstances. Bloomberg says he's now sorry he authorized it...not understanding the problems it arose... Believe him or not...Considering as Mayor of one of the countries true major cities..much violent crime at the time, much happening in certain area of city among certain groups of citizens , against certain segments of population...Just saying. I can see the average cop on the street useing the procedure as a easy way to do their job, not worrying about any embarrassment of those stopped or repercussions that possible followed...Not condoning but understanding. You are either illegal or not. As said...there are illegals....then there are illegals....
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Post by dezii on Feb 24, 2020 9:49:40 GMT -5
As said...there are illegals....then there are illegals.... Which needs to be dealt with as any other that breaks the law. "Which needs to be dealt with" Tar and feathers...dunking stool..20 lashes....guillotine?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 24, 2020 15:08:54 GMT -5
he was predicted to win by a 2:1 margin in recent polls. if Biden doesn't finish at least in 2nd, he is toast. he might be toast even if he DOES finish 2nd. yeah. so the polling was spot on.
and the polling still shows Biden winning this weekend.
but it is going to be close.
#BidensLastStand
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Post by Ava on Feb 24, 2020 20:50:28 GMT -5
What I find strange is that nobody is dropping out of the race.
Even Tulsi and Steyer are still there.
I doubt Joe Biden will drop out even if he performs poorly in SC. At the same time, I think he's going to win there. So that will give him momentum to keep going.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 25, 2020 0:07:33 GMT -5
What I find strange is that nobody is dropping out of the race. Even Tulsi and Steyer are still there. I doubt Joe Biden will drop out even if he performs poorly in SC. At the same time, I think he's going to win there. So that will give him momentum to keep going. they are counting on a brokered convention, and if they have one, they will make the case that they are the most viable candidate. it is not that far fetched, for most of them.
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Post by Ava on Feb 29, 2020 18:06:44 GMT -5
I am currently a registered Democrat. In my state, you have to be a registered Democrat in order to vote in the primaries.
I became a Democrat briefly in 2016 to vote for Bernie and then became an independent again. This time around I plan to stay as a Democrat so I don't have to switch every four years for the primaries, since I don't see myself ever voting for a Republcan.
As I learn more about how the Democratic party works and how they choose the candidate, the less I like it.
It's disgusting that after all these months of debates and campaigns, and volunteers working, and millions of dollars spent, there is a group of delegates and super delegates who can choose the candidate. So why don't they just do away with the pretense, pick the nominee as that's what they want to do, and stop this charade that the rank and file vote matters? I would be very sad if a group of super delegates decides who's going against Trump in November. It looks like Bernie will have a plurality but not a majority of delegates, and there's no way they would willingly choose him.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 1, 2020 11:26:55 GMT -5
thanks to South Carolina, the odds of a brokered convention have risen to 60%
so, as of today, neither Sanders nor Biden will have enough pledged delegates to win outright.
this is shaping up a lot like 2016.
this really was a gamechanger for Biden, although, truth be told, his numbers started moving shortly after Nevada. Sanders is the most likely to win Super Tuesday, but if Biden can make a better than expected showing, he may challenge him for first place, yet.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 1, 2020 18:36:15 GMT -5
thanks to South Carolina, the odds of a brokered convention have risen to 60% so, as of today, neither Sanders nor Biden will have enough pledged delegates to win outright. this is shaping up a lot like 2016. this really was a gamechanger for Biden, although, truth be told, his numbers started moving shortly after Nevada. Sanders is the most likely to win Super Tuesday, but if Biden can make a better than expected showing, he may challenge him for first place, yet. African american voters came out strong for Biden, I would expect the same in most other Southern states.
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 1, 2020 19:27:40 GMT -5
Buttigieg has suspended his campaign as of tonight.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 1, 2020 20:18:46 GMT -5
Buttigieg has suspended his campaign as of tonight. We will be seeing more of him in the future.
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 1, 2020 20:24:12 GMT -5
Buttigieg has suspended his campaign as of tonight. We will be seeing more of him in the future. I sure hope so. I now have 2 days to figure out what I'm doing, since I had figured on casting a primary ballot for him. leaning Biden, hoping to help it not be Sanders.
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Post by kadee79 on Mar 1, 2020 20:32:37 GMT -5
There are at least 3 others that need to get out NOW....Mike, Amy & Liz.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 1, 2020 22:06:41 GMT -5
I think Mike is in it for the long run, boy is he plastering the air ways with ads or what!!! Well written ads, Going to hook a lot of people!!
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 2, 2020 9:38:07 GMT -5
Buttigieg has suspended his campaign as of tonight. He did it to unite the party in an alternative to Bernie, but did he say who that was. Must be Biden? He should have quit a while ago if he was afraid of Bernie. 2 days before Super Tuesday, without clear backing of someone else probably isn't enough to coalesce moderate votes.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 2, 2020 9:54:38 GMT -5
Buttigieg has suspended his campaign as of tonight. We will be seeing more of him in the future. I hope so. He is scary smart. I'd love to see him in a cabinet position next year...
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Mar 2, 2020 10:00:51 GMT -5
We will be seeing more of him in the future. I hope so. He is scary smart. I'd love to see him in a cabinet position next year... I'm thinking VP myself. Him or Amy.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 2, 2020 10:42:19 GMT -5
I hope so. He is scary smart. I'd love to see him in a cabinet position next year... I'm thinking VP myself. Him or Amy. Both would be excellent.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 2, 2020 10:55:49 GMT -5
I hope so. He is scary smart. I'd love to see him in a cabinet position next year... I'm thinking VP myself. Him or Amy. My problem with putting him in as VP is that seems to be a dead end job. The only one who had any success in my life time was Bush (original) was a one-term president, which is generally considered a bad sign. I would hate to put that anchor on Pete's neck for his first swim in the national pool. Maybe he can be elected Senator in 2022, or governor, or some other path that has been less sucktastic. Plus, if he is VP for Bernie or Biden, he is instantly burdened with their baggage. And they both have considerable luggage. He would be better off blazing his own path and keeping his own identity.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 2, 2020 11:09:10 GMT -5
... Plus, if he is VP for Bernie or Biden, he is instantly burdened with their baggage. And they both have considerable luggage. ... Just an aside: My ex told me once, "We both have baggage but yours is carry-on and I have a full set."
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 2, 2020 12:11:34 GMT -5
... Plus, if he is VP for Bernie or Biden, he is instantly burdened with their baggage. And they both have considerable luggage. ... Just an aside: My ex told me once, "We both have baggage but yours is carry-on and I have a full set." Even then - it makes a difference if it is a nice matching set, with like a Gucci label and functional spinners vs. an old box held together with duct tape, a couple of mismatched duffle bags, one with a broken zipper, an old suitcase with a broken wheel with a different smaller suitcase with a broken handle.
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 2, 2020 14:08:12 GMT -5
And now Amy Klobuchar drops out- and endorses Biden. I know how I am voting tomorrow. And who I will Caucus for on Sunday.
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 2, 2020 14:26:16 GMT -5
And now Amy Klobuchar drops out- and endorses Biden. I know how I am voting tomorrow. And who I will Caucus for on Sunday. can you explain how this hybrid primary/caucus setup is going to work this year? I was talking to a friend of mine last night, she will be working the caucus and even she wasn't able to explain that I understood.
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Post by deminmaine on Mar 2, 2020 14:50:37 GMT -5
And now Amy Klobuchar drops out- and endorses Biden. I know how I am voting tomorrow. And who I will Caucus for on Sunday. can you explain how this hybrid primary/caucus setup is going to work this year? I was talking to a friend of mine last night, she will be working the caucus and even she wasn't able to explain that I understood. I believe so, at least for Maine. You are in MA I believe, probably similar. Of course we select our choice for nominee at the primary, so that bit of critical business is done prior to the caucus, and by the way, will drastically reduce the turn out to the caucus. So, what is left to do? We still have state and national political conventions, which require delegates. We will need to select delegates to the state conventions at our caucuses. This is important for the national convention, because delegates to that are elected at the state convention. In my experience it is a piece of cake to go to the state convention- volunteer at the caucus and you will be able to go. However the delegates to the national convention are a more sought after prize, in part because there are far fewer of them. We have almost as many delegates from our town to the state as the state has to the national! So delegates to the state convention actually run hard to be elected at that convention as delegates to the national convention later on. But, that is beyond the caucus. At the caucus we decide who goes to state. (there is a provision to be selected at County if you can't attend local and want to go, btw) So the delegates in theory are selected proportionally based on who got what for the vote on March 3. Caucus attendees split up into groups of supporters for various candidates, and each candidate that scored delegates on 3/3 gets a proportional amount of delegates from the town. So if Biden got 4 delegates from my town of EastButtkiss, and 7 people went over to the Biden corner at Caucus, then up to 4 of them could be delegates. The math gets a bit arcane and complicated- no need to delve into that here, but that is what happens. The other bit of real business at most caucuses is that most Municipal Committees hold their election of committee officers at the caucuses. (this is the way the by laws are structured unless the committee specifically re-writes them differently) So the Chair, Co-Chair (or Vice-Chair) Treasurer and Secretary are all elected for their next term here. Aside from this business, it is also a great time to enlist new active volunteers to work at committee and for issues through the campaign season, and maybe even step up as an officer. Of course this may all be diminished with the decreased attendance expected due to the new primary. So committees are trying extra hard to do the rah-rah and get people to commit to a Sunday afternoon for this. One tool to do so is...... Appearances and speeches by candidates! Your Senator, Elizabeth Warren, could show up at YOUR caucus to speak (although I doubt it) driving excitement and increasing attendance. Here in Maine, places like Portland and even maybe Saco may see the likes of Rep. Pingree or Senate Candidate Sara Gideon, helping to do the same. Here in East Buttkiss, we will have our local state House and Senate candidates, and maybe someone or other else, and we will also try to drive attendance. We will have petitions, and fundraising efforts for candidates. As you can see, I am a bit skeptical, but I do hope I am wrong. As flawed as caucuses were during presidential years they did bring people in, which was obviously good for party recruiting. At least until the crowds became so large and unmanageable in 2008 that the process was overwhelmed in the cities and the parties had serious egg on them as a result.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 2, 2020 19:18:56 GMT -5
I think Mike is in it for the long run, boy is he plastering the air ways with ads or what!!! Well written ads, Going to hook a lot of people!!
So I'm curious, OC, if Bloomberg ran against Trump, who would you pick? Both are billionaires, but Bloomberg is way more of a billionaire, Trump is maybe only a millionaire. Bloomberg was a GOPer before he became a Dem, Trump was a Dem for years before he became a GOPer. Trump ran a smallish real estate development company, when he wasn't a TV reality show star, Bloomberg ran one of the largest cities in the US, in addition to running his various businesses. They're really similar in a lot of ways. He would you vote for?
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Post by Opti on Mar 2, 2020 20:49:20 GMT -5
I'd vote for Bloomberg. He created all his businesses. He's not a third gen like Trump. Plus he understands large govt and business. Chris Christie thinks he's somewhat of an ass, but I'm not entirely sure I agree even after hearing the reason.
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Post by kadee79 on Mar 2, 2020 20:49:34 GMT -5
Anyone taking bets on who the VP candidate will be?
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