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Post by ugonow on Apr 2, 2011 10:56:42 GMT -5
WASHINGTON -- Leaders from two unions known to support the Republican Party warned of serious repercussions for GOP candidates in the 2012 elections, saying the onslaught of anti-labor bills in state capitals has shifted their political allegiances.
“Our political principles are pretty straightforward. We’ll support those that support us,” Harold Schaitberger, general president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, told HuffPost. “We tend to stick with those who stick with us.”
“There is a distinct possibility that the pro-labor candidate in the next election will be looked at much more favorably than their overall record,” Chuck Canterbury, national president of the Fraternal Order of Police, told HuffPost. “The vast majority of our membership will put other issues aside.”
The inclusion of police and fire unions in an Ohio bill that stripped collective bargaining rights from public employees may have been the last straw for the two conservative-leaning groups. But even in Wisconsin, where Gov. Scott Walker’s actions exempted them, cops and fire fighters marched shoulder to shoulder with teachers and other public workers.
Now, the public safety unions are signaling what could be a tectonic shift in the political landscape, one that could result in a level of labor solidarity missing for recent elections.
“I don’t want to say we are unhappy with Republicans but we are very unhappy with the far-right wing of the party that seems to have taken the Republican Party hostage,” said Canterbury, whose union endorsed George W. Bush and John McCain in the last three presidential elections. “We are extremely unhappy with the snowball that rolled in in Ohio and we are traditionally a very conservative organization. We’ve been bipartisan.....But with the actions that have taken place, there’s going to be tremendous reprisals taken out at the polls” by police and their families.”They feel like their public officials turned their back on them.”
The FOP political action committee gave less than $30,000 in 2010, most of it evenly distributed between Republicans and Democrats. But Canterbury expects his union will spend significantly more money in 2012 elections and recall and referendum votes in Wisconsin, Ohio and other states where labor is being asked to shoulder the brunt of budget deficits.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 2, 2011 11:04:15 GMT -5
What "mafia style tactic" are they threatening to use?
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Post by ugonow on Apr 2, 2011 11:04:52 GMT -5
The same one that allows me to decide to patronize the business I choose or not. ie..."boycott"as some call it...
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 2, 2011 11:27:07 GMT -5
The same one that allows me to decide to patronize the business I choose or not. ie..."boycott"as some call it... What makes it "mafia style"? Is "mafia sytle" an okay style"
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Post by ugonow on Apr 2, 2011 11:38:07 GMT -5
If a threat to boycott [threatening to not do business with a particular estableshment] is a mafia tatic, this surely must be.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 2, 2011 11:46:04 GMT -5
If a threat to boycott [threatening to not do business with a particular estableshment] is a mafia tatic, this surely must be. Yes, "If"...then. But does the mafia threaten to not do business with a particular establishment?
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Post by ugonow on Apr 2, 2011 11:53:36 GMT -5
According to another thread,it is mafia style. IMO, it is just another form of voting,only this one with jour partronage instead. You can shop at the store of your choosing.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 2, 2011 11:59:47 GMT -5
... IMO, it is just another form of voting.... Then why start a thread that says it is a "mafia style tactic"?
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Post by ugonow on Apr 2, 2011 12:04:43 GMT -5
I was being facetious. I don't see choosing who to do business with nor who to vote for as being mafia tatics.
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 2, 2011 17:02:25 GMT -5
If a threat to boycott [threatening to not do business with a particular estableshment] is a mafia tatic, this surely must be. Guess I am getting old because back in the day, a Mafia style would be that a business was not boycotted, what good does that do , especially , say, a real good restaurant , and now I can't eat there because the family is boycottiing it. Ohhh that really helped me out, really smarts and the wife is bitching because it's her favorite eatery and the owners wife is her best friend. I thought if a business owner owed a lot of money say, gambling , loan sharking, many independents get into these things through gambling, drug usage, banks unwilling to loan but businesses need loans to pay blls in slow times, then they , Masfia would take over if they neglected to pay on time, which many times happened due to the late fees, hugh, interest, huger, and then they milked the place for all it's worth and if a insurence policy on the busines, say fire, possible as a finishing toucch , torch the place and then collect the insurence money. I don't see something even resembling that scenario here. Guess they changed the rules, the Mafia, just boycott, listen to wife bitch away and be pissed at you. ;D
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Post by formerexpat on Apr 2, 2011 17:06:46 GMT -5
Irrelevant. States and the federal government can't and couldn't afford the promises made. The bill comes due, the government is preparing to royally screw.
Kind of like Social Security, but for public employees. Bend over and take it like a champ.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 2, 2011 21:52:52 GMT -5
I find it funny that the laissez-faire corporate apologists tell you "well if you don't like it, just go elsewhere!" But when union people actually do this, it mysteriously turns into a "mafia tactic." Like someone from the mafia is going to tell a business owner "if you don't pay up, we'll never visit your establishment again!" Congratulations, that actually makes perfect anti-sense. Whoever thought that up is an absolute anti-genius. Conservative tactic #29: when attacking a person or organization, any strong, emotional disparaging term will do, even if it doesn't make any sense (let alone be true) or contradicts the other terms used for said person or organization.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Apr 2, 2011 23:46:23 GMT -5
“I don’t want to say we are unhappy with Republicans but we are very unhappy with the far-right wing of the party that seems to have taken the Republican Party hostage,” said Canterbury, whose union endorsed George W. Bush and John McCain in the last three presidential elections.
Bush and McCain conservative? That was the problem and the solution is the Tea party. Schaitberger was never a conservative in the real sense.
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 3, 2011 0:03:44 GMT -5
That's right, you're terribly victimized by conservatives. "Disenfranchised" even! There ought to be a law so this never happens to your tender heart again. Seek sympathy, possibly a support group somewhere...
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 3, 2011 0:58:33 GMT -5
I am? Well at least you're keeping the Psychic Hotline people out of the unemployment lines. Trolls will be trolls. Your repeated desperate attempts to make people out into a cry baby got old a while ago. You don't mind that you're giving your side bad publicity, do you? At least seek a Facebook account that gives more entertaining trolling techniques, your emoticon no-trick pony is a bore. Oh, and next time, try putting a lack of steak in your lack of sizzle by giving more than lame-ass insults. The Tea Party is going to run for President? Well, I guess their combined ages is over 35 and as long as they're all born in the United States. Hey, Obama's competition is thin, so they might want to try it.
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 3, 2011 21:19:35 GMT -5
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 4, 2011 9:53:00 GMT -5
You've used that one before too. Even after I outed your lame-ass technique, you just did it more. Thanks for proving my point and since you have nothing to say about what's on topic and can't even troll well, thanks for playing, it was too easy.
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Post by Bluerobin on Apr 4, 2011 10:27:39 GMT -5
Just wait until a politician has a fire at his house. Then you will see the tactics!
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 4, 2011 10:39:58 GMT -5
You've used that one before too. Even after I outed your lame-ass technique, you just did it more. Thanks for proving my point and since you have nothing to say about what's on topic and can't even troll well, thanks for playing, it was too easy. it was too easy.
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 4, 2011 12:00:33 GMT -5
Right, because you keep doing it and are obviously quite clueless about it. But by all means, I'm happy to sit back and watch you continue to embarrass yourself on an almost daily basis here...
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Apr 4, 2011 12:27:48 GMT -5
Wrong, that was in regards to doing it to Shirina and who knows who else (more proof of how everything you do is memED). Otherwise, that's nice little spiel and self declared victory you have there. BTW, nobody believes your rubber-stamp responses. notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=5317By all means, prove such a statement. Or is that warm weather we've been having due to you blowing more hot air? Oh, and anytime you're ready to get back on topic... [insert watch emoticon here]
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 4, 2011 12:29:39 GMT -5
Kitty, every post you make is proof...you just don't realize it
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