Evicting son.... the hard way!

[TheHaitian]

I cannot believe the son has intentions of fighting this. Dude you are 30... get out! At first I thought it was fake news and had to do some research.

www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/whats-hot/a-30-year-old-man-is-being-sued-by-his-parents-because-he-refuses-to-leave-home/ar-AAxAPSk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz

www.thisisinsider.com/parents-take-30-year-old-son-court-eviction-2018-5

www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article211585139.html

swamp do you want to represent the parents or the son?

In April, the couple went to Camillus town court for help in the eviction process, according to Syracuse.com. However, they learned that you need to go to a Supreme Court to remove a family member.

On May 7, the couple filed a petition with the Onondaga County Supreme Court.

In a response to the court, Michael Rotondo claimed he wasn't expected to help with household expenses or chores while living at their house. He also claims that eviction was "retaliatory" and did not provide him with adequate notice. According to the standard set by Kosa v Legg in 2006, tenants must be given six months eviction notice by their landlords.

[Tennesseer]

He's a miserable loser,TheHaitian.  I miserable loser.  The parents aren't so great either.  They coddled the kid way too long.

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May 21, 2018 21:38:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

 They coddled the kid way too long.

I'm sure he didn't all of a sudden turn into a leech.  They've been letting him do it for years and he doesn't respect them one bit.  My almost 16 year old knows he has short time after he graduates high school...like a couple months.  Then it's one of the four E's. 

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[resolution]

May 21, 2018 21:45:00 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

May 21, 2018 21:38:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

 They coddled the kid way too long.

I'm sure he didn't all of a sudden turn into a leech.  They've been letting him do it for years and he doesn't respect them one bit.  My almost 16 year old knows he has short time after he graduates high school...like a couple months.  Then it's one of the four E's. 

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Good luck with that.  My parents told me the same thing, and I did briefly move out for college, but once I finished college I moved back in!

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May 22, 2018 3:38:43 GMT -5 resolution said:

May 21, 2018 21:45:00 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

I'm sure he didn't all of a sudden turn into a leech.  They've been letting him do it for years and he doesn't respect them one bit.  My almost 16 year old knows he has short time after he graduates high school...like a couple months.  Then it's one of the four E's. 

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Good luck with that.  My parents told me the same thing, and I did briefly move out for college, but once I finished college I moved back in!

It worked for me and all 4 of my siblings. My brother moved out ON his 18th birthday and he still had a month of high school left.

I imagine I'll give the same stay of execution following college that I am after high school, but I'm not letting someone just camp out in my house that isn't doing anything.

[Shooby]

 Well, now he has "tenants rights".   He may be like the nanny who moved in and wouldn't leave.  However, the parents kind of deserve this headache as his arse should have been kicked to the curb years ago.

[haapai]

He may be a loser, but he'll probably get relief from the court.  The notes that the parents have left probably are insufficient to set the eviction clock rolling.  Even if the clock has been activated, not enough time has passed for the parents to set his stuff on the curb. 

I refuse to point fingers at either the child or the parents, since I do not live alone.  Another person lives here and does not have a lease.  If things go south between us, I may have to bone up on eviction procedure myself.  But wait, it gets worse.  After serving appropriate notice, I'd probably have to either spend six weeks or so either living with an extremely pissed off ex or vacate the premises myself.  Since neither option is attractive, I'd probably land up getting legal advice to draft an agreement to vacate the premise in exchange for cash. 

Nope, nope, I ain't gonna chortle and point fingers at the folks on Maurey.  I might be doing the same walk someday. 

[andi9899]

May 21, 2018 21:38:28 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

He's a miserable loser,TheHaitian.  I miserable loser.  The parents aren't so great either.  They coddled the kid way too long.

Exactly! My sister was coddled her whole life. She's 38 and she and her two kids live with my parents. It's ridiculous.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

May 22, 2018 3:38:43 GMT -5 resolution said:

May 21, 2018 21:45:00 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

I'm sure he didn't all of a sudden turn into a leech.  They've been letting him do it for years and he doesn't respect them one bit.  My almost 16 year old knows he has short time after he graduates high school...like a couple months.  Then it's one of the four E's. 

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Good luck with that.  My parents told me the same thing, and I did briefly move out for college, but once I finished college I moved back in!

Yep, and if I wanted to continue living under their roof at this time, I also had to contribute to the upkeep of the household.  That meant largely chores, as I needed every penny I earned to pay for college and associated expenses.  

Their house, their rules.

[andi9899]

Thing 2 has decided not to go to college right away. She just started a FT job and will be paying rent in addition to now having to pay her car insurance. If she decides to enroll FT in school later, she won't have to pay rent anymore. If she doesn't like it, she can get out.

[Deleted]

I don't think there's anything wrong with adult children living at home if they're contributing to the household and are working on bettering themselves.  Unless there were other issues (like not following house rules), I wouldn't kick out a student or an adult child that was working and helping out a lot around the place, or even temporarily house a returning one that had fallen on hard times as long as they helped out.  But, I do think that not launching can be detrimental to them...so I'm going to be constantly nudging them towards the edge of the nest, even though I'll probably miss them horribly once they're gone.  Your whole outlook on life and money changes when you have your own place, your own bills, and have to buy and prepare your own food.   

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May 22, 2018 3:38:43 GMT -5 resolution said:

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Good luck with that. My parents told me the same thing, and I did briefly move out for college, but once I finished college I moved back in![/quote]

A male colleague at my first job lived with his parents and his mother would cheerfully fix breakfast for him and whatever young lady walked out of his bedroom in the morning. My parents were mean. I wasn't allowed to have sleepovers with my guy friends (and I shared a room with my sister anyway). I was thrilled to get my own place. My younger brother, OTOH, returned home after college and lived there for a year even though he had a 1+-hour commute (back in the 1970s in Ohio that was a lot). He finally HAD to move when my parents relocated to Buffalo, NY.

DS never returned after college- got a job in the town where he went to school and is still there. I know some kids come back to live with parents so they can pay off student loans or save up for a house- at least there's a goal. I'd still expect help with chores and respecting whatever rules I set.

[Lizard Queen]

My boys are only 8 and 5, so at this point, I don't ever want them to leave!  I'm sure I'll change my tune once they're teenagers, or not.  My youngest wants to be a cook, and that would be really nice!     But seriously, everyone needs to contribute in whatever way they are able, and I'd want them to build their own lives eventually.

[TheHaitian]

May 22, 2018 8:36:53 GMT -5 haapai said:

He may be a loser, but he'll probably get relief from the court.  The notes that the parents have left probably are insufficient to set the eviction clock rolling.  Even if the clock has been activated, not enough time has passed for the parents to set his stuff on the curb. 

I refuse to point fingers at either the child or the parents, since I do not live alone.  Another person lives here and does not have a lease.  If things go south between us, I may have to bone up on eviction procedure myself.  But wait, it gets worse.  After serving appropriate notice, I'd probably have to either spend six weeks or so either living with an extremely pissed off ex or vacate the premises myself.  Since neither option is attractive, I'd probably land up getting legal advice to draft an agreement to vacate the premise in exchange for cash. 

Nope, nope, I ain't gonna chortle and point fingers at the folks on Maurey.  I might be doing the same walk someday. 

They are going through the same thing since I believe the son is still living there. Your parents are suing you and you are still staying under their roof.

Imagine the day / evening leading to court or after court... he is 30, returned home 8 years ago (I am guessing after college), never left, never got a job or got one for a long time (per their reference to the lack of work history)....

That is truly a case of “no shame in their game”. But the parents are 5-7 years late in this process.

I am Haitian so our approach is different; we don’t kick our kids out, we do tend to coddle them. I know I can always go home, my mom will welcome us with open arms.

But the person must be working towards at least one goal to better themselves:
- going back to school
- paying down debt
- career change
- Job loss / Jon change

This kid started mooching and figure he will keep the gravy train going and even got famous in the train.

[Bonny]

May 22, 2018 11:02:02 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

My boys are only 8 and 5, so at this point, I don't ever want them to leave!  I'm sure I'll change my tune once they're teenagers, or not.  My youngest wants to be a cook, and that would be really nice!     But seriously, everyone needs to contribute in whatever way they are able, and I'd want them to build their own lives eventually.

Lol, I always thought the teenage years were nature's way of helping parents want to help their kids leave the nest!

One problem I see with my friends who are having problems with their boys becoming independent is some serious boundary issues. Put what you expect in writing and have the kid agree, adjust expectations, and be prepared to enforce those rules. As an example, Mom and Dad will help with your college expenses but you need to be going to school full time and maintain a B average, et cetera.

Otherwise I see a lot of nagging and resentment on both parties. It's a real relationship killer.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

My aunt lived with her parents their entire life, until they died.  In her defense, she was the youngest, was living in NYC and had a full time job and her mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease not long after she got out of school.  In reality, she was living there to take some of the stress off her mom (who was of the generation where they catered to men 24/7).  When her mom died, she continued living there (and working) while catering to her father.  When he died, she got married and started catering to her husband. She was older when she got married, over 50 so kids weren't in the picture.

I wish she was closer so I could help her out now.  I know she needs it.  

[movingforward]

My boss's son is 38 and still living with her. She travels a lot so most of the time he has the whole 3000 sq ft house to himself. He pays zero rent and she pays for someone to clean the house each week and for landscaping services. He works part-time and spends time "working on his music." She is retiring next year and will be moving. I wonder if she is just going to give him this 400K house. I can't imagine her kicking him out and selling it. Right now his only bill is a cell phone. He doesn't even have health insurance.

[swamp]

May 21, 2018 21:05:09 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

I cannot believe the son has intentions of fighting this. Dude you are 30... get out! At first I thought it was fake news and had to do some research.

www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/whats-hot/a-30-year-old-man-is-being-sued-by-his-parents-because-he-refuses-to-leave-home/ar-AAxAPSk?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz

www.thisisinsider.com/parents-take-30-year-old-son-court-eviction-2018-5

www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article211585139.html

swamp do you want to represent the parents or the son?

In April, the couple went to Camillus town court for help in the eviction process, according to Syracuse.com. However, they learned that you need to go to a Supreme Court to remove a family member.

On May 7, the couple filed a petition with the Onondaga County Supreme Court.

In a response to the court, Michael Rotondo claimed he wasn't expected to help with household expenses or chores while living at their house. He also claims that eviction was "retaliatory" and did not provide him with adequate notice. According to the standard set by Kosa v Legg in 2006, tenants must be given six months eviction notice by their landlords.

neither.  they both sound like assholes. 

[Bonny]

I'll add that as a landlord I'd find it frightening that it takes six months to evict a tenant.

[zibazinski]

May 22, 2018 15:41:32 GMT -5 Bonny said:

I'll add that as a landlord I'd find it frightening that it takes six months to evict a tenant.

Why do you think landlords sell their rentals?

[Deleted]

My ex lived off and on with his parents for two years after he graduated from college and got a job. He paid rent, though. He couldn't afford an apartment without a roommate, and he did move in with friends a couple of times. But they would graduate, and he moved back home.

It was fine with his parents. Like I said, he paid rent. He was also expected to work on the farm . . . mow grass, bale hay (take off work when necessary), work with the cattle, etc.

[Bonny]

May 22, 2018 17:09:08 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

May 22, 2018 15:41:32 GMT -5 Bonny said:

I'll add that as a landlord I'd find it frightening that it takes six months to evict a tenant.

Why do you think landlords sell their rentals?

I sold mine because it was time. We decided that we weren't going to move back to San Diego so no point in hanging on to something we didn't like that was 500 miles away.

That said, and to your point, there's been some serious talk about doing a state-wide rent control measure on an upcoming ballot. Most talk has been about repealing a provision that was enacted back in 1995 called Costa Hawkins which exempts units built in 1995 or later from rent control. The purpose of that bill was to encourage the building of more residential units. The people who are proposing the repeal are mad that rents have really jacked up over the last 5 years due to our great economy and employment situation. What they don't seem to understand is that it costs A LOT to own and maintain rental units and if you can't get a fair return on your money you won't invest therefore squeezing the supply even further.

I know I'm singing to the choir but it's so frustrating.

[Tennesseer]

Parents and son in front of NY supreme court judge today. Judge agreed with the parents. Appears eviction is immediately.

New York Supreme Court Orders Eviction of 30-Year-Old Man From His Parents' Home

[TheHaitian]

May 22, 2018 17:57:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Parents and son in front of NY supreme court judge today. Judge agreed with the parents. Appears eviction is immediately.

New York Supreme Court Orders Eviction of 30-Year-Old Man From His Parents' Home

Cannot believe he plans to appeal the judge decision, this guy has serious issues!

[TheHaitian]

I enjoy this part

“vowing to appeal, and noting that—other than providing free housing—his parents did not support him by doing things like feeding him or doing his laundry”

Can someone teach this idiot that for most people “housing” is usually the biggest expense line.

I pity the fools that had this fool!

[Deleted]

OMG.  This guy sounds like a complete tool.


Nothing was too small to attract Rotondo's notice: a notice incorrectly listed the room for today's appearance. Rotondo demanded an adjournment due to the mix-up: the judge noted that he'd made it just fine.

And the video.

[TheHaitian]

He is a tool!

I want to feel bad for the parents but then remember they raised this fool!

[Bonny]

May 22, 2018 20:54:13 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

He is a tool!

I want to feel bad for the parents but then remember they raised this fool!

They are only responsible to a point. As an adult he's responsible for his own decisions.

I can't believe how he loves "performing for the camera". Flipping his hair into the pony tail, stroking his head during the camera feed". What an asshat. Most people would feel shame. Talk about an entitlement mentality.

[chapeau]

I think I'm kind of impressed is not the word, but seriously, he's put this much work into not getting thrown out of his parents' home. And he's really working the camera.

If he applied himself half this enthusiastically to a job, he'd be successful. Granted, he'd be working.

I wonder if this is his plan ... parley his 15 minutes of fame/scorn into something. Probably not a real job, but videos, reality tv "star", who knows what.

Seeing him on camera he's too polished. In my job I see plenty of people who are still sponging off mom and dad 15 or 30 years later. But none of them are this well rehearsed. Or put this much effort into it. Most people, if mom and dad really kick up a fuss, are flopping on friends' couches for a few weeks/months, until mom and dad calm down and don't resist when they move back in with a new sob story. He's ticking some button for me, and it isn't the "I feel sorry for the people involved" button. It's the one that checks to make sure my boots are tall enough and I have a big can of air freshener...

[zibazinski]

Ordering him out and getting him out are two different things.