Canadian Election: Closer Or Weaker US Econ Ties

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Well said V, K4U bra!

Apr 28, 2011 15:37:06 GMT -5 @franktheimpaler said:

I think Canada should buy the US

I see my evil plot is starting to take hold, mmuuhahahahhaha!

Sunrnr, thanks, your getting the rest of my k today, that's from Canada bra!

I understand your scared right now brother, however just think about this. There is a nation of lumberjacks, rig and steel workers, farmers, and manual labors that, if really threatened, is ready to fight. You've got at least 5 million, burly, 6ft+, 200lb+, WELL FED MEN ready to defend this land. Just to give you an idea of what that looks like.

Keep in mind this was after the Germans used mustard gas on us.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vimy_Ridge

That was WW1, there is a reason that my great Uncle has a plaque in his honor in France for leading, and giving his life in WW2.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Ahh, close enough, eh..

[Virgil Showlion]

Fortunately, the only Quebeccers foolish enough to support Quebec sovereignty have no knowledge of mathematics, diplomacy, Canadian-European relations, economics, Canada-US relations, history, demographics, or (in general) reality. If a Quebeccer comprehends even one of these factors, he/she is not a sovereigntist.

Unfortunately, that still leaves about 25% of Quebeccers.

[Virgil Showlion]

The front and back covers of today's (apparently bought-and-paid-for) Toronto Metro:







Have you ever seen anything so unashamedly disgusting?

If this man gets one vote on election day, it will be a shame to our nation. I'm glad Prime Minister Harper eviscerated Mr. Layton in the latest debate re: how is Cracker Jack going to pay for his ridiculous promises.


"An NDP coalition would be unstable and wouldn't last very long. But no one should underestimate the damage it would do to Canada's reputation, credibility, and economy."

     - Prime Minister Steven Harper (April 27, 2011)

[Virgil Showlion]

The plan was outed by the KGB and reported on in 1996 by Daniel Estulin.

I suppose I'm "officially" a tin-foiler now.

I know exactly who Daniel Estulin is.

[Virgil Showlion]

Thx. I'll hit you back when I've recharged.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

If this man gets one vote on election day, it will be a shame to our nation. I'm glad Prime Minister Harper eviscerated Mr. Layton in the latest debate re: how is Cracker Jack going to pay for his ridiculous promises.

I couldn't agree more.

This was in a few different articles I thought, this is exactly what it would be like if he were in charge.

{Layton has faced repeated questions from the media in recent days about the cost of his policies and about reports that some candidates in Quebec don't live in the province, are currently on vacation, or don't speak French.

Layton appeared frustrated while answering repeated questions on the matter during a campaign stop Thursday in Yellowknife

"So that you can ask your questions, I'll let you interrupt me as often as you want, but I'll try to answer as best as I can. Can I finish a sentence?" he demanded of a reporter.}




So what do you think Virgil, does the Quiet Revolution or the Lower Canada Rebellion have something to do with the Bilberberg Group??

[Virgil Showlion]

I admit I've never researched the group's activities as they pertain to Canada. I know that on previous years, a poli sci professor from my alma mater and "famed" Canadian news anchor Peter Mansbridge both attended. Neither would say anything about the discussions that went on and the Canadian media didn't ask any questions.

Both (not surprisingly) are staunch globalists.

I keep an eye more on the less savory Canadian think tanks: the Pembina Institute, the Fraser Institute, the Sierra Club, et al. Our politicians cite the institutes' "recommendations" so often that the institutes in effect have as much or more of a role in governing the country as the people do. As far I know, none have ever come out with a report that favoured splitting up the country.

I do know that the Pembina Institute, the Fraser Institute, the C.D. Howe Institute have all come out with pro-Amero or pro-NAU reports. I'd like to think that they're just farting in the wind; popular support for a North American union is about 2% on either side of the border. Even so, a listing of "Director, Fraser Institute" on the 2011 Bilderberger manifest would worry me.

"They get things done." As the old adage goes.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

The bottom line is that if their plan was to dissolve qubec and take it, they would get an outcry from about 2% of Canadians. I can hear us now "You guys want that 8 billion dollar a year "nation", have fun.

[tyfighter3]

That's what we say about Cook County too. But it's a lot more than 8 Billion.

[Virgil Showlion]

Your misunderstand, Ty.

8 billion a year is what Quebec gets in yearly transfer payments from the rest of Canada.

[tyfighter3]

The principal is still the same.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Aren't you saying that cook county costs your guys way more than 8 billion a year Ty?

In other news, Howdy Neighbour.

[tyfighter3]

You are correct.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

You are da man!!

[Virgil Showlion]

Aren't you saying that cook county costs your guys way more than 8 billion a year Ty?

So... you guys are even bigger suckas than us, huh?

Darn Americans have to be bigger at everything.

Ham, a Conservative Majority!

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I hear ya Virg! It's nice to find some common ground, isn't it? You need to think about dropping that anchor, your again spending time defending someone instead of being part of the situation, just sayin'... I hope that the events over the last few days have soften your view a bit Have some K and think about it, then come into the light my friend.

[Virgil Showlion]

If you're referring to my defense of Decoy, I did it because I analyzed the situation and found him "not guilty".

Neither did I deem you guilty of racism because you stated "you need to control your boy" when referring to Decoy. If we're reducing "racism" to harmless quips (between parties that have absolutely no clue about each other's races, I might add), the term loses all meaning.

Also (you can back me up on this), the term 'boy' isn't even considered an epithet in Canada. If I were to say "Come on Hammy boy, we gotta vote out Jack!", I know of few people here who would even recognize there were racial implications (much less take offense).

Demanding a pound of flesh rather than giving a colleague the benefit of the doubt says more about the offendee than the offender, IMO.

As for "coming into the light", I prefer my doom cloud over my usual stomping grounds. They're called "reality".

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Well, those... and all the other times that your on the D for.... Instead of keeping the cloud on the place with your, as kman called it, sharp Canadian cheddar. ;D

As far as 'boy', it is a word that can be used in many forms. The one you pointed out, I would have no issues with. When mid used it towards V, it was meant in an antagonist way, I can't comment as far as racists. I can say that Decoy has called me, and others a blasphemer and a heretic. Others that I know, which I will not name, consider him to be racists. The bottom line is that like any other.. uhhh 'COM voters', a certain someone would rather stir the pot, go off on tangents and make the situation about them, than staying on point and arguing facts.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I can't believe your still up, just remember anchors keep you in the same place . For me... it's

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

We are defiantly sure that at this time in CDN politics a conservative majority is a good thing.

The signs that showed up weren't the ones we were hoping for V

As a side note, note sure if many followed the results but they were broken down into ridings and vote cast. I'll bet that in eights yrs time we will be looking at online voting.

[decoy409]

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Opposition slams 'flawed' consultations on border security
www.vancouversun.com/news/Opposition+slams+flawed+consultations+border+security/4869944/story.html

[Virgil Showlion]

Thanks, Ham.

I posted the following as my 'input' to the working group:

It's imperative that any information-sharing programs track aggregate statistics such as (but not limited to):

- number of unique persons for which biometric/identity/personal data is i) requested by each nation, ii) granted to each nation

- number of queries for biometric/identity/personal data that are i) requested by each nation, ii) granted to each nation

- number of cross-border queries that are deemed 'actionable' (i.e. result in some additional action such as surveillance, modifications to watch lists, police action, etc.)

- detailed statistics on how much and which types of information are exchanged. 'Biometrics' could be talking something as simple as fingerprints of criminals, or something as invasive as DNA markers of anyone who has ever submitted to a federal blood test. 'Personal information' could be as simple as name/DOB or as invasive as a log of all road tolls paid by all registered vehicles. Even if the specific types of information released for specific individuals can't be made public, the aggregate stats on which types of information are released and how frequently should _absolutely_ be part of the public record.

- permission for the Canadian courts to request records of all cross-border information exchanged for _specific individuals_ up to five years ago. If the Canadian government gives everything they know about me to the US government, my lawyer has a right to know about it five years after the fact. If I've been a sleeper for five years, it means the US intelligence agencies are bloody incompetent; they're shooting in the dark hoping to hit something 'terrorist-like'.

All of this info should be available on a _yearly basis_, delayed by no more than six months, through Freedom of Information requests.

I, and I imagine most Canadians, want to know how chummy our two governments are getting. If we start seeing requests for tens or hundreds of thousands of unique individuals--asking for things like fingerprints, data for facial recognition, traffic tickets, known political associations--we'll vote our displeasure at having been sold out.

The US is getting paranoid. They're turning into a bloody police state and everyone knows it.

I don't outright oppose cross-border information exchange, but give Canadians the data we need to find out whether it's being used or [ab]used.

Regards,

Virgil

I'd advise any other Canadians here to do the same.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

NP Virgil,

Those are good suggestions; and highly analytical as usual, nice work!

Mine were to the economic side of things. That we need to find a way to fill jobs here with people that might want to fly into work, or just move here, others types of things like that.

There is no reason why a red blooded US citizen shouldn't be able to just move here and work. With how much our economies mirror each other, I highly doubt we have to worry about a person that just wants to work; if we implement your policing policies that would ensure it.