ChiTownVenture
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 31, 2011 12:03:27 GMT -5
No I'm saying that when new technology affects taxes adjustments should be made as soon as possible so that people don't say "well it's been 5 (or 10 or 20) years and they haven't collected taxes, why start now?The real question is why even start...? because we like roads. I'm all for figuring out a new tax system for road maintenance. I don't agree with the gas tax, I don't think it's fair. I also don't agree with attaching some kind of metering devise to a car so that the government can tax you. You have to make up for the lost revenue some how.
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fairlycrazy23
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Mar 31, 2011 13:07:44 GMT -5
I'm not really in favor of targeted taxes in general, public services which roads currently are should be paid for out of general funds, which would possibly have a broad tax base. when government starts targeting taxes like gas tax for roads, that to me implies that roads are not a general benefit to the community but are specifically for a certain group, and if it is not a general benefit then let a private entity provide it. Most city roads I would argue are a shared benefit even if you never use it because it allows police , fire, mail, deliveries to come to your house.
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Post by ty on Mar 31, 2011 13:22:15 GMT -5
This is very funny - I just heard the Oregon Legislature is proposing a road tax on electric vehicles. Since they don't buy gas, they don't pay the gas tax which is used for roads. I thought the whole idea of electric cars was to remove ourselves from the fossil fuel crutch and help the environment. www.leg.state.or.us/11reg/measures/hb2300.dir/hb2328.intro.htmllmao here , They are determined one way or another to squeeze that last dime outta you. However, just because you are driving an all electric car, it does not and should not exempt you from paying your fair share of taxes on the roads that you are using like the gas power cars do. Pay up!
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 31, 2011 14:46:03 GMT -5
If the average driver drives 15,000 miles per year and cost is .6 cents per mile .006 the tax would be $90 per year?
At that rate no one would buy a EV Typical drama injection response. Feel free to point out where I said no one would buy an EV. I simply said it would reduce the incentive to buy green tech and, yes, it will discourage some people from purchasing a high mileage vehicle. By all means, buy one if you want to. IMHO, it's too soon to punish people that are already paying a premium price for eco friendly vehicles. What does this have to do with whether it's easier or not (implies our politicians really care about what we say)? A capital building full of protesters didn't stop the WI government from passing their controversial bill. As to what people say...simply tell them like it is. Tell people that there wasn't a large enough tax base to bother addressing the issue. Tell people that the idea of not taxing EV's right out the gate was to encourage the acceptance of relatively unproven, untested eco friendly technology. Understandable...but this isn't just for EV's. It will apply to hybrids as well. Motorcycles get pretty good mileage...Are motorcycles going to be the next tax targets? What about the fuel efficient 30+mpg compact car drivers...are you next? As every day vehicles get more fuel efficient and use less gas, Who's going to be the next target to feed the government's tax addiction? All I can say is I'm glad I don't live in Oregon.
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Post by Angel! on Mar 31, 2011 15:31:08 GMT -5
Probably ultimately everyone. They are trying to get away from the gas tax system to a more "pay for your use" type system. As pointed out earlier - the people that pay this tax are exempt from paying gas tax, so the hybrid drivers will just about break even (or possibly even save a little, because Oregon has a $0.30 gas tax).
If it works in Oregon, then I bet a lot of states will start making the switch. I know Colorado has talked about it.
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ChiTownVenture
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 31, 2011 15:35:14 GMT -5
uh, where where you referenced in my response?
We disagree, I don't see the problem with charging "high mileage" vehicles $90 per year if it keeps the roads from deteriorating. I think you would be hard pressed to find a state that didn't currently need more funding for roadways.
We will see how this works out in OR, I'm sure more states will enact similar taxes before everything is said and done.
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