SPYGATE; SMOKING GUN

[djAdvocate]

May 21, 2018 15:53:40 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

May 21, 2018 15:48:14 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

since he apparently can't be indicted, there is really no excuse for him to shut this down.

But trump can be indicted once he leaves office.

leaves implies that it will be willing.  how about we say "is out of office"?

[happyhoix]

Trump demanding an investigation into the FBI may be considered 'obstruction of justice.'

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/8-legal-experts-on-whether-trump%E2%80%99s-demand-for-an-investigation-into-the-fbi-is-legal/ar-AAxBaeT

[happyhoix]

I'm throwing this one in here just because it made me laugh - the ex American Ambassador to Panama (the one who resigned rather than serve under Trump) said Trump is like a velociraptor.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-us-ambassador-to-panama-trump-is-like-a-velociraptor/ar-AAxBbZc

It's because of the tiny hands.

[Virgil Showlion]

May 21, 2018 14:00:00 GMT -5 Opti said:

And it wasn't just ads. If you read anything about the troll farms, the workers had to make so many posts and comments a day in various forums. This is another form of advertising with only the worker salaries paid to make it happen. At this time, this really isn't done except by some of the RW funded quasi-legal opinion pushers.

I've read speculation about the "troll farms". If we've moved beyond the US intel agencies claiming they exist--sans evidence that can be publicly disclosed--that's news to me. Perhaps you can point me to the latest.

I'm giving the US intel agencies the benefit of the doubt in trusting them when they say the farms existed and were being run by the Kremlin, but there are limits to what I'll believe on their say-so.

In any case, my argument persists. I can believe the psyop was dollar-for-dollar significantly more effective than traditional modes of advertising and influence, but only to a reasonable multiple. The multiples required to bring it into the ballpark where it can sway the US federal election, even when targeted, even in the swing states, are many orders of magnitude greater. We simply can't work around this.

[happyhoix]

May 21, 2018 17:21:27 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 21, 2018 14:00:00 GMT -5 Opti said:

And it wasn't just ads. If you read anything about the troll farms, the workers had to make so many posts and comments a day in various forums. This is another form of advertising with only the worker salaries paid to make it happen. At this time, this really isn't done except by some of the RW funded quasi-legal opinion pushers.

I've read speculation about the "troll farms". If we've moved beyond the US intel agencies claiming they exist--sans evidence that can be publicly disclosed--that's news to me. Perhaps you can point me to the latest.

I'm giving the US intel agencies the benefit of the doubt in trusting them when they say the farms existed and were being run by the Kremlin, but there are limits to what I'll believe on their say-so.

In any case, my argument persists. I can believe the psyop was dollar-for-dollar significantly more effective than traditional modes of advertising and influence, but only to a reasonable multiple. The multiples required to bring it into the ballpark where it can sway the US federal election, even when targeted, even in the swing states, are many orders of magnitude greater. We simply can't work around this.

Are you taking into account how people re-tweet or re-post articles they like? If a troll is talented at trolling, something he writes can be shared around the web countless times.

Here are some articles about the Russian troll farms.

www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390

www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope

www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html

[Virgil Showlion]

May 21, 2018 17:31:01 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 21, 2018 17:21:27 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I've read speculation about the "troll farms". If we've moved beyond the US intel agencies claiming they exist--sans evidence that can be publicly disclosed--that's news to me. Perhaps you can point me to the latest.

I'm giving the US intel agencies the benefit of the doubt in trusting them when they say the farms existed and were being run by the Kremlin, but there are limits to what I'll believe on their say-so.

In any case, my argument persists. I can believe the psyop was dollar-for-dollar significantly more effective than traditional modes of advertising and influence, but only to a reasonable multiple. The multiples required to bring it into the ballpark where it can sway the US federal election, even when targeted, even in the swing states, are many orders of magnitude greater. We simply can't work around this.

Are you taking into account how people re-tweet or re-post articles they like? If a troll is talented at trolling, something he writes can be shared around the web countless times.

Here are some articles about the Russian troll farms.

www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390

www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope

www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html

Thanks for the links. I was aware of some of the allegations, but not all.

I don't know what else to say. If you believe 13 men churning out social media comments could possibly sway the US federal election where the US media, foreign media, Hollywood, $1.5 billion in campaign funds, and millions of bloggers, activists, lobbyists, pundits, and "community organizers" couldn't, you might as well concede the Kremlin is omnipotent and give up on western democracy entirely.

If we accept your reality, a few of YMAM's pro-Trumpers could put together a team of 50 loyalists, take to social media, put out an average of 20 posts per day starting January 2019, and have a shot at handing the man his second term.

Bottom line: insofar as your argument is "Russia shouldn't be trolling America in contravention of US election laws", I agree. Prosecute the men for breaking the law. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether the psyop amounted to more than a fart in a hurricane.

[Opti]

May 21, 2018 20:25:36 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 21, 2018 17:31:01 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you taking into account how people re-tweet or re-post articles they like? If a troll is talented at trolling, something he writes can be shared around the web countless times.

Here are some articles about the Russian troll farms.

www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390

www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope

www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html

Thanks for the links. I was aware of some of the allegations, but not all.

I don't know what else to say. If you believe 13 men churning out social media comments could possibly sway the US federal election where the US media, foreign media, Hollywood, $1.5 billion in campaign funds, and millions of bloggers, activists, lobbyists, pundits, and "community organizers" couldn't, you might as well concede the Kremlin is omnipotent and give up on western democracy entirely.

If we accept your reality, a few of YMAM's pro-Trumps could put together a team of 50 loyalists, take to social media, put out an average of 20 posts per day starting January 2019, and have a shot at handing the man his second term.

Bottom line: insofar as your argument is "Russia shouldn't be trolling America in contravention of US election laws", I agree. Prosecute the men for breaking the law. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether the psyop amounted to more than a fart in a hurricane.

I find this  an amazingly bizarre argument. Of course both campaigns influenced people. People did come out to vote after all instead of holding an election and almost no one voting.

How much the Russians affected the election, I do not know.

[djAdvocate]

the way he phrased the question, i would say "of course!".

it is POSSIBLE that ONE VOTE would sway an election.

in this case, it was more like 73,000 out of 100M+ cast.

given that the propaganda reached 13M, i would think

that getting 73k to go your way is certainly POSSIBLE.

[Tennesseer]

Satire from The Borowitz Report

Trump Says He Has No Idea Who F.B.I. Informant Might Be
By Andy Borowitz


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump said on Monday that he is “a-hundred-per-cent positive” that an F.B.I. informant infiltrated his 2016 campaign but that he has “absolutely no idea” who that mole might be.

“I’ve been trying to figure out who would have the opportunity and the motive to do something like this,” he said. “But I keep coming up empty.”

“Opportunity-wise, you’d need to be someone who’s in my inner circle and who could get close to me without raising suspicions,” he said. “But, then again, the person would have to be able to suddenly disappear for periods of time and report back to the F.B.I. I can’t think of anyone in a position to do that.”

Complete article here: Trump Says He Has No Idea Who F.B.I. Informant Might Be

[Virgil Showlion]

May 21, 2018 21:53:57 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the way he phrased the question, i would say "of course!".

it is POSSIBLE that ONE VOTE would sway an election.

in this case, it was more like 73,000 out of 100M+ cast.

given that the propaganda reached 13M, i would think

that getting 73k to go your way is certainly POSSIBLE.

Let me put it this way: Even if it were the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, you don't blame the piece of straw for breaking the camel's back. You start with the 65 lbs of spices, the 38 lbs of silver, the 36 lbs of carpeting, the 28 lbs of tea leaves, the 26 lbs of water, ...

[OldCoyote]

May 21, 2018 12:23:32 GMT -5 Opti said:

May 21, 2018 12:20:33 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Hence the "poo pooing".

This is also not a serious defense of the Russia investigation. When this investigation began it was about the Trump campaigns collusion with Russia and state actors to influence, and even tamper with the election. It was an attempt to delegitimize the election for the express purpose of getting Trump to resign, or pressuring Congress to impeach Trump, and to abort the Trump presidency before it could begin. The attempt has failed, and everything that has ensued is an excuse and a cover-up.

You can say and post this until the day you die, but it is still epic BS that now pales in comparison to Pizza-gate for me.

I like my fiction intelligent and well-crafted BTW.

Pizza-gate??

That was the best retort you could come up with??

[OldCoyote]

May 21, 2018 21:08:38 GMT -5 Opti said:

May 21, 2018 20:25:36 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Thanks for the links. I was aware of some of the allegations, but not all.

I don't know what else to say. If you believe 13 men churning out social media comments could possibly sway the US federal election where the US media, foreign media, Hollywood, $1.5 billion in campaign funds, and millions of bloggers, activists, lobbyists, pundits, and "community organizers" couldn't, you might as well concede the Kremlin is omnipotent and give up on western democracy entirely.

If we accept your reality, a few of YMAM's pro-Trumps could put together a team of 50 loyalists, take to social media, put out an average of 20 posts per day starting January 2019, and have a shot at handing the man his second term.

Bottom line: insofar as your argument is "Russia shouldn't be trolling America in contravention of US election laws", I agree. Prosecute the men for breaking the law. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether the psyop amounted to more than a fart in a hurricane.

I find this  an amazingly bizarre argument. Of course both campaigns influenced people. People did come out to vote after all instead of holding an election and almost no one voting.

How much the Russians affected the election, I do not know.

Name one person on these boards that said before the election that they had not made their mind up weeks before the election.

 I know of no one that that had not made up their minds weeks before the election, even my Bernie supporting Grandsons!!  That voted for Trump instead of Hillary!

[djAdvocate]

May 21, 2018 22:43:29 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

May 21, 2018 21:08:38 GMT -5 Opti said:

I find this  an amazingly bizarre argument. Of course both campaigns influenced people. People did come out to vote after all instead of holding an election and almost no one voting.

How much the Russians affected the election, I do not know.

Name one person on these boards that said before the election that they had not made their mind up weeks before the election.

 I know of no one that that had not made up their minds weeks before the election, even my Bernie supporting Grandsons!!  That voted for Trump instead of Hillary!

i had not made my mind up weeks before the election.  so, there is one.  i bet i am not alone.

[OldCoyote]

May 21, 2018 23:13:29 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 21, 2018 22:43:29 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Name one person on these boards that said before the election that they had not made their mind up weeks before the election.

 I know of no one that that had not made up their minds weeks before the election, even my Bernie supporting Grandsons!!  That voted for Trump instead of Hillary!

i had not made my mind up weeks before the election.  so, there is one.  i bet i am not alone.

Do you recall the response you sent me over my saying I wasn't voting for Trump, I was voting against Hillary!

Under no uncertain terms you expressed your hatred for Trump.

You may have been debating if you were going to vote for Micky Mouse,  But it was not going to be for Trump!

[Opti]

May 21, 2018 22:43:29 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

May 21, 2018 21:08:38 GMT -5 Opti said:

I find this  an amazingly bizarre argument. Of course both campaigns influenced people. People did come out to vote after all instead of holding an election and almost no one voting.

How much the Russians affected the election, I do not know.

Name one person on these boards that said before the election that they had not made their mind up weeks before the election.

 I know of no one that that had not made up their minds weeks before the election, even my Bernie supporting Grandsons!!  That voted for Trump instead of Hillary!

The voters aren't made up of just people you know. The uncertainty factor in any election is always attributable to those who make up their minds at the very end. A significant portion went to the Independents who garnered about 4% of the total vote in 2016 versus less than 2% in 2012.

I knew of Bernie supporters who voted for Trump as well. Because if they couldn't get who they wanted, they figured Trump would destroy the country quicker, so they voted for him.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 21, 2018 15:51:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 21, 2018 10:50:53 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We are WAY past conspiracy theories. Way past. We know. Now we just need to unpack it all. 

you're right.  we are way past conspiracy.  that is why there have been 22 indictments and 5 convictions, so far. 

there will be more.  and i am betting none of them will be Hillary.

I will take that bet.

Conventional wisdom is that "it'll never happen" because "she's been skating on everything her whole life".

Conventional wisdom no longer applies.

The fuse is lit.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Senator Ron Johnson Questions: “Sensitive Matters Team” – New Emails Show FBI and DOJ Discussing Dossier Briefing For CNN Release…

The footnotes in a letter from Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (full pdf below) outline a series of previously unknown emails between top FBI and DOJ officials as they discuss the Steele Dossier and prepare for a release by CNN.

The emails show that hours before FBI Director James Comey briefed President-Elect Trump on the dossier, Comey’s chief-of-staff James Rybicki e-mailed staff that Director Comey “is coming into HQ briefly now for an update from the sensitive matter team.”



On January 8th, 2017, two days after the Comey briefing, former [fired] FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe [who has been referred for criminal prosecution] wrote an e-mail to top FBI officials (James Comey, James Rybicki, David Bowdich and Michael Kortan), with the subject: “Flood is coming.”

Continue reading →

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

This isn't just bad for the deep state- this clearly shows media coordination. Given that this is a conspiracy to subvert the Constitution, overturn the results of an election, and drive a duly elected President from office (make NO MISTAKE- that's what this has all been about- that's what the Mueller cover-up-disguised-as-investigation is still all about), the "journalists" who may have coordinated with top government officials are walking a very fine line.

There's no First Amendment right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. And knowingly transmitting information designed to deceive the public into believing an election was compromised and that their President has committed treason which explains his election victory-- kinda qualifies as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

The question for those involved in the media is: what did they know and when did they know it?

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/22/senator-ron-johnson-questions-sensitive-matters-team-new-emails-show-fbi-and-doj-discussing-dossier-briefing-for-cnn-release/#more-149579

The letter from Senator Johnson then goes on to outline how CNN reported breaking news of the dossier on January 10th, using the ‘hook’ created by a leak of the briefing Comey gave to president-elect Trump. CNN headlined their report: “Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him.” A few hours later, BuzzFeed News published the contents of the “Steele dossier.”

Within the letter Senator Johnson asks Director Chris Wray to provide a list of all members of the “sensitive matters team” referenced by James Rybicki. Additionally, Johnson requests Wray to provide all details about how FBI officials “first learned that media outlets, including CNN, may have possessed the Steele dossier.”

From the footnotes we can see the emails were first obtained by the Justice Department Office of Inspector General (Michael Horowitz) and turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee.

What makes this interesting is the emails are: all post-election; all seemingly unrelated to any of the three known primary IG investigative inquiries; and all provided by the OIG to congress, without prior request (that we know of). Much like the Page/Strzok text message release, this email release seems specifically intended to spur further congressional inquiry, and broaden the general public awareness.

Why would IG Horowitz send these to congress? Well, there’s not much he can do with them. All of the outlined participants/recipients are no longer within the DOJ or FBI except David Bowditch (now Asst. Director under Wray); however, they do provide an expanded awareness and understanding of the post-election ‘small group‘ activity.

Here’s the full letter:

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Whoa! Michael Caputo Drops Second Trump Campaign ‘Agent Provocateur’ Bombshell During Interview…

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/21/whoa-michael-caputo-drops-second-trump-campaign-agent-provocateur-bombshell-during-interview/

At the end of an interview segment on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News broadcast, former Trump campaign adviser Michael Caputo drops a bombshell. Caputo says there was more than one FBI/CIA/Intelligence agent/informant attempting to infiltrate the Trump campaign.

How does he know this? Caputo claims he was a target of the agent, and he is attempting to get approval from his lawyer to reveal the events that took place.

Watch. The Caputo bombshell comes around 09:18 of the interview (prompted):

10:29 …“Let me tell you something that I know for a fact. This informant, this person [who] they tried to plant into the campaign … he’s not the only person who came at the campaign. And the FBI is not the only Obama agency who came at the campaign.”

“I know because they came at me. And I’m looking for clearance from my attorney to reveal this to the public. This is just the beginning.”… And I’ll tell ya’, when we finally find out the truth about this Director Clapper and the rest of them are going to be wearing some orange suits”…[Emphasis Mine]

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I.

Am.

Right.



This is going to be my greatest fulfilled prediction since I began posting on politics back in the YM days.


I WILL rub it in.

I WILL NEVER let any of you live it down.

Henceforth, you will NOT doubt me. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/21/gop-lawmaker-intel-officials-will-meet-to-discuss-fbi-source/

Going to be an interesting next two or three months...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Perfect Timing.

The Intelligence Community Gets New Inspector General

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/21/perfect-timing-intelligence-community-gets-new-inspector-general/

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Trump explains the way it is, and the way it shall be...

President Trump Meets With DAG Rosenstein, FBI Director Wray and DNI Dan Coats to Establish White House/DOJ Expectations…
Posted on May 21, 2018 by sundance

President Trump, Chief-of-Staff John Kelly and White House Counsel Don McGahn met with DOJ Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats today to discuss the revelations of former FBI, DOJ and intelligence officials conducting politically motivated surveillance on the Trump campaign in 2015, 2016 and 2017.

After the meeting the White House released the following statement:

“Based on the meeting with the President, the Department of Justice has asked the Inspector General to expand its current investigation to include any irregularities with the Federal Bureau of Investigations or the Department of Justices tactics concerning the Trump Campaign. It was also agreed that White House Chief of Staff Kelly will immediately set up a meeting with the FBI, DOJ, and DNI together with Congressional Leaders to review highly classified and other information they have requested.” (link)

Two months ago Inspector General Michael Horowitz launched a third investigation into DOJ and FBI conduct as it relates to the abuse of the FISA court by former officials. The FISA abuse investigation was the second outcropping from the original IG investigation into FBI and DOJ conduct during the Clinton investigation.

The first off-shoot OIG review ended with an IG report on Asst. FBI Director Andrew McCabe and a criminal referral for illegal leaks to the media and lying to the IG and FBI investigators.

The original IG investigation started by looking into the results of a 2015/2016 FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton’s classified email use. That original investigation resulted in a lengthy Draft Report which is currently in draft review phase. This much anticipated report is on schedule be published in final form within the next two weeks.

Continue reading →

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I'm so right I can barely stand it.

What a great week!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

WOW! So much to catch up on. Hopefully, you are keeping up with your homework assignments. Sorry. There's just so much residual corruption from the "scandal free" Obama years that must now be dealt with. This particular act of treason is just the last thing he did. Can you imagine what it's going to be like when they really start digging? 

Dan Bongino Discusses John Brennan – President Trump Modifies Schedule To Meet Rosenstein, Wray…
Posted on May 21, 2018 by sundance

Earlier today President Trump highlighted a quote from Dan Bongino to the Fox News Morning group. The citation references former CIA Director John Brennan and his rather looming responses to the requests by the office of the President for DOJ and FBI review.




Additionally, President Trump has changed the last half of his daily schedule to allow for a 3:00pm meeting today with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray. Meeting Topic: ‘The Big Ugly’.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 13, 2017 16:20:38 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Using the FBI as an "insurance policy" in case the election doesn't go the way you think it should is not "bias". It is treason.

We know for a fact now that the FBI was working for one party / campaign against the other party / campaign. 

This agent was not fired for his political opinions. We all have political opinions. He was fired because Mueller was trying desperately not to get caught.

The question is: What did Obama know and when did he know it?

This was an astonishing look at the Washington elite's contempt for the American people, and their total corruption.

The OP. 

For your careful consideration in light of recent news. 

[happyhoix]

May 21, 2018 20:25:36 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 21, 2018 17:31:01 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you taking into account how people re-tweet or re-post articles they like? If a troll is talented at trolling, something he writes can be shared around the web countless times.

Here are some articles about the Russian troll farms.

www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390

www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope

www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html

Thanks for the links. I was aware of some of the allegations, but not all.

I don't know what else to say. If you believe 13 men churning out social media comments could possibly sway the US federal election where the US media, foreign media, Hollywood, $1.5 billion in campaign funds, and millions of bloggers, activists, lobbyists, pundits, and "community organizers" couldn't, you might as well concede the Kremlin is omnipotent and give up on western democracy entirely.

If we accept your reality, a few of YMAM's pro-Trumps could put together a team of 50 loyalists, take to social media, put out an average of 20 posts per day starting January 2019, and have a shot at handing the man his second term.

Bottom line: insofar as your argument is "Russia shouldn't be trolling America in contravention of US election laws", I agree. Prosecute the men for breaking the law. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether the psyop amounted to more than a fart in a hurricane.

Actually I don't know how much the troll activity influenced the election, but I'm not sure that was the objective of the trolling. It seems to me they were more interested in creating divisions within the country. They would often troll both sides of an issue - posting provocative black lives matter posts, for instance, while also posting flaming white power posts. In general, just stirring up shit. While the 2016 campaign was an especially divisive one, and we can't ever know exactly how much more divisive it was due to the Russian trolling, it's still a problem that Russia keeps trolling, not only us, but other Western democracies as well.

It would be nice if our POTUS could come out firmly against Russia and condemn it for their bad acts, like the other Western nations have, instead of finding reasons for not imposing the sanctions Congress voted against Russia. Instead, our POTUS calls up Putin to congratulate him on his questionable re-election, and talks about how he admires Putin's strong man act. Questionable behavior, with the head of a government that has always been our enemy. Unless there really is some backdoor agreement between Trump and Russia. Or backdoor blackmail.

Makes it harder to believe the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt.

[happyhoix]

May 22, 2018 6:27:22 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

May 22, 2018 6:20:09 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I'm so right I can barely stand it.

What a great week!

I see you are now channeling Trump rather than Rush.  Congratulations on your promotion. 

Actually, Trump is channeling Fox.

Yes, our president is actually Hannity.

[happyhoix]

It's interesting, as the Mueller investigation starts to narrow it's focus, how much activity it's provoked in Trumplandia, including Fox news.

Now they're imaging the pizza delivery boy and the IT guy who set up the phones as agent provocateurs. And I thought Nixon became paranoid, when his presidency was falling apart. Nixon had nothing on Trump.

It's hard to imagine how Trump can be getting any real work done, between imaging bogeymen coming out of the woodwork, and all the angry tweeting. But maybe that's a good thing.....

 

[Opti]

May 22, 2018 7:14:37 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 22, 2018 6:27:22 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I see you are now channeling Trump rather than Rush.  Congratulations on your promotion. 

Actually, Trump is channeling Fox.

Yes, our president is actually Hannity.

True. Yet on this board I often feel like I'm reading a sister show to Info Wars ... Propaganda  Wars. Its the never ending fictional FBI story which is sucking in even its own creators into blissful euphoria.