SPYGATE; SMOKING GUN

[dondub]

[billisonboard]

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[happyhoix]

May 16, 2018 22:35:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

My goodness-such pent up DragonEnergy.  It's almost manic!

Lot of nervous energy due to all the various people getting close to the truth while trailing all the different pay for play money schemes this admin has engaged in.

Source of the 107 million dollar slush fund set up for the inauguration parties confirmed to be a lot of dark money, donations from Russians and the Qataris, a lot of the money can't be accounted for: www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-inauguration-money-w520327

(One of the four party planning firms was created just six weeks prior to the inauguration, by a friend of Melania, and got 26 million, and no one is sure where that money went. I think I know. )

Mystery Qataris giving giant loan to Kushner's real estate management firm to rescue a money losing sky scraper, and Cohen got 1 million from the very generous Qataris, too.  www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%E2%80%99s-personal-attorney-solicited-dollar1-million-from-government-of-qatar/ar-AAxnHaQ  I need to ask Qatar for money, too, since they apparently give it to anyone who asks nicely.

Of course, we may not get to know about all the money Cohen collected from his new pals, because two of the SAS reports banks file to report suspicious activity have disappeared from the SAS database. A whistleblower with access to the SAS database noticed the deletions and made came forward with the remaining SAS information, for fear that it, too, would get wiped from the server, which is how Avenatti got the info. slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.

I think the real issue that will trip up Trump, the one that will wreck his personal empire and ruin his reputation (and ability to make a profit on his name), is centered on Cohen, and when he will flip against Trump. The right wing media is feverishly throwing out conspiracy theory threads about the Mueller investigation to try to distract from that really damaging issue, which is the graft gravy train Trump, his family, his friends and associates have been wallowing on since the moment Trump got elected. 

[Virgil Showlion]

May 17, 2018 10:56:44 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

The right wing media is feverishly throwing out conspiracy theory threads about the Mueller investigation to try to distract from that really damaging issue, which is the graft gravy train Trump, his family, his friends and associates have been wallowing on since the moment Trump got elected.

Uh huh.

All a great big distraction.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 17, 2018 10:56:44 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 16, 2018 22:35:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

My goodness-such pent up DragonEnergy.  It's almost manic!

Lot of nervous energy due to all the various people getting close to the truth while trailing all the different pay for play money schemes this admin has engaged in.

Source of the 107 million dollar slush fund set up for the inauguration parties confirmed to be a lot of dark money, donations from Russians and the Qataris, a lot of the money can't be accounted for: www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-inauguration-money-w520327

I am not attacking your source as a defense. The honest truth is that this is the first time I've heard anything about this story, so I can't really comment on it (you see how that works?). However, since I've repeatedly asked for examples of where the Treehouse got it wrong, and have received ZERO so far, I thought it a worthwhile exercise to point out that your source in this case is notorious for a fake story which resulted in your source, Rolling Stone Magazine, settling a lawsuit for $1.65 million. And I'm even going to cite the NY Times to back it up (instead of the Treehouse): www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/business/media/rape-uva-rolling-stone-frat.html

(One of the four party planning firms was created just six weeks prior to the inauguration, by a friend of Melania, and got 26 million, and no one is sure where that money went. I think I know. )

Mystery Qataris giving giant loan to Kushner's real estate management firm to rescue a money losing sky scraper, and Cohen got 1 million from the very generous Qataris, too.  www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%E2%80%99s-personal-attorney-solicited-dollar1-million-from-government-of-qatar/ar-AAxnHaQ  I need to ask Qatar for money, too, since they apparently give it to anyone who asks nicely.

Again, not familiar with the story- though from the story itself, it is not clear there's anything illegal or improper going on?

Of course, we may not get to know about all the money Cohen collected from his new pals, because two of the SAS reports banks file to report suspicious activity have disappeared from the SAS database. A whistleblower with access to the SAS database noticed the deletions and made came forward with the remaining SAS information, for fear that it, too, would get wiped from the server, which is how Avenatti got the info. slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

So, Cohen is a lobbyist. I find it distasteful, but we've yet to do anything about it legislatively, so whatever. We've already established that it doesn't matter if you want to wipe your server. Did you know that the DNC servers have STILL, in spite of claims they were hacked by the Russians, not been examined by official law enforcement agents? They still haven't looked at Hillary's illegal server, confiscated the devices, servers, or viewed the accounts she may have communicated with, nor examined the emails found on Anthony Weiner's computer in spite of claims by James Comey under oath that they did so. The forthcoming IG report will explain this. Additionally, there's no evidence that this 'whistleblower' claim is even true. Believe it or not, I find Slate- though obviously biased left- not a bunch of insane liars (like USA Today today which blatantly lied about Trump's MS-13 statement)- so, I'm willing to hold out that this MIGHT be true- but the careerists in the government bureaucracy are not reliable.

Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.

Got a link?

I think the real issue that will trip up Trump, the one that will wreck his personal empire and ruin his reputation (and ability to make a profit on his name), is centered on Cohen, and when he will flip against Trump. The right wing media is feverishly throwing out conspiracy theory threads about the Mueller investigation to try to distract from that really damaging issue, which is the graft gravy train Trump, his family, his friends and associates have been wallowing on since the moment Trump got elected. 

To "flip" he'd have to have knowledge of a crime. How long has it been since the brazen and unprecedented raid on Cohen's office? If they had something, they'd have something.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The media and the deep state are going into overdrive to distract from the fact that the coup attempt is over. They have a few false beliefs- the first is that it's not over (the real insiders know it's been over for months), the second is that the worst thing that could happen to them is exposure. The reality is that the worst is yet to come.

There's an old Emerson quote, "If you strike at the king, you must kill him" which applies here. This operation was to prevent Trump getting elected. It failed, and they've been improvising ever since. They never really had a coherent plan other than to drive Trump from office.

At first, some even thought they could prevent his inauguration via protests. Silly. Stupid. Failed.

Then, they thought they could drive his approval numbers down and force him to resign.

Now, they think they can cover it all up, build a case for impeachment, take the house and senate in November, and begin impeachment proceedings in January.

That is not going to happen-- and by that, I mean any of it. They're not going to win in November. They're going to lose at least two Senate seats and while they may pick up a handful of House seats, they're not going to re-take the House.

In any case, they will not have the votes to impeach Trump in the House, let alone the votes to remove him from office in the Senate if they did- because even if they win the Senate, they're not going to win it by much (really- it's not going to happen at all) and they certainly won't get 20 to 22 GOP votes to remove Trump from office on whatever trumped up charges they cook up in the House.

In reality, what's going to happen is that the biggest scandal in American political history is going to be revealed: Obama and Hillary conspired with a group of careerists in the bureaucracy (the deep state) to use intelligence agencies and assets, investigative powers, and law enforcement authority of the United States government against their political opponent by placing spies (yes, we now know there was more than one spy), fraudulently obtaining FISA court warrants to prevent his being elected. Having failed to stop his election, they proceeded to concoct a story as a pretext to abuse the Special Counsel law to use an investigation to drive him from office-- and equally as important, to cover up their previous misdeeds.

People are going to federal prison. I now have ZERO doubt, that should she live long enough, Hillary Clinton is actually going to federal prison. Obama won't of course. He'll have plausible deniability. I do think that if I were John Brennan, I'd be looking for a retirement destination without an extradition treaty. Hopefully, he has enough personal assets. James Comey-- going away. For a long time. Robert Mueller? He'll skate somehow- as will Rosenstein. Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, and Lisa Page? Buh Bye. Off to prison, they go.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Here's your 'whistleblower'.

Yeah, um...not so much.

This turns out to be exactly what I suspected.

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/16/corrupt-law-enforcement-official-leaked-private-michael-cohen-financial-information-to-sketchy-porn-lawyer/

Corrupt Law Enforcement Official Leaked Private Michael Cohen Financial Information To Sketchy Porn Lawyer…

Posted on May 16, 2018 by sundance

Last week, in an effort to target President Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, sketchy porn-lawyer Michael Avenatti received and released stolen financial records for a group of people who held the name Michael Cohen. At least two of the people who had their records released were the wrong Michael Cohen.

In a New Yorker article today, far-left playtime ‘journalist’ Ronan Farrow writes about his contact with the law-enforcement official who stole the Cohen financial records and gave them to the sketchy porn lawyer.

From the timing it appears the Treasury Department Office of Inspector General is close to catching the criminal leaker. As such, Farrow writes a sympathetic outline attempting to shape a narrative of a “law-enforcement official” as a wounded ‘whistleblower‘.

New Yorker – Last week, several news outlets obtained financial records showing that Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal attorney, had used a shell company to receive payments from various firms with business before the Trump Administration.

In the days since, there has been much speculation about who leaked the confidential documents, and the Treasury Department’s inspector general has launched a probe to find the source. That source, a law-enforcement official, is speaking publicly for the first time, to The New Yorker, to explain the motivation: the official had grown alarmed after being unable to find two important reports on Cohen’s financial activity in a government database. The official, worried that the information was being withheld from law enforcement, released the remaining documents. (read more)

Here’s the problem with Farrow’s sympathetic motive framework: The ‘law-enforcement official’ stole and released, financial records of the wrong Michael Cohens. That’s not the conduct of a “whistleblower”; that’s the conduct of an entrenched and corrupt partisan ideologue holding -and exploiting- their position within law-enforcement.

A Big Difference.

[happyhoix]

May 17, 2018 12:58:06 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 17, 2018 10:56:44 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Lot of nervous energy due to all the various people getting close to the truth while trailing all the different pay for play money schemes this admin has engaged in.

Source of the 107 million dollar slush fund set up for the inauguration parties confirmed to be a lot of dark money, donations from Russians and the Qataris, a lot of the money can't be accounted for: www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trump-inauguration-money-w520327

I am not attacking your source as a defense. The honest truth is that this is the first time I've heard anything about this story, so I can't really comment on it (you see how that works?). However, since I've repeatedly asked for examples of where the Treehouse got it wrong, and have received ZERO so far, I thought it a worthwhile exercise to point out that your source in this case is notorious for a fake story which resulted in your source, Rolling Stone Magazine, settling a lawsuit for $1.65 million. And I'm even going to cite the NY Times to back it up (instead of the Treehouse): www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/business/media/rape-uva-rolling-stone-frat.html

(One of the four party planning firms was created just six weeks prior to the inauguration, by a friend of Melania, and got 26 million, and no one is sure where that money went. I think I know. )

Mystery Qataris giving giant loan to Kushner's real estate management firm to rescue a money losing sky scraper, and Cohen got 1 million from the very generous Qataris, too.  www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump%E2%80%99s-personal-attorney-solicited-dollar1-million-from-government-of-qatar/ar-AAxnHaQ  I need to ask Qatar for money, too, since they apparently give it to anyone who asks nicely.

Again, not familiar with the story- though from the story itself, it is not clear there's anything illegal or improper going on?

Of course, we may not get to know about all the money Cohen collected from his new pals, because two of the SAS reports banks file to report suspicious activity have disappeared from the SAS database. A whistleblower with access to the SAS database noticed the deletions and made came forward with the remaining SAS information, for fear that it, too, would get wiped from the server, which is how Avenatti got the info. slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

So, Cohen is a lobbyist. I find it distasteful, but we've yet to do anything about it legislatively, so whatever. We've already established that it doesn't matter if you want to wipe your server. Did you know that the DNC servers have STILL, in spite of claims they were hacked by the Russians, not been examined by official law enforcement agents? They still haven't looked at Hillary's illegal server, confiscated the devices, servers, or viewed the accounts she may have communicated with, nor examined the emails found on Anthony Weiner's computer in spite of claims by James Comey under oath that they did so. The forthcoming IG report will explain this. Additionally, there's no evidence that this 'whistleblower' claim is even true. Believe it or not, I find Slate- though obviously biased left- not a bunch of insane liars (like USA Today today which blatantly lied about Trump's MS-13 statement)- so, I'm willing to hold out that this MIGHT be true- but the careerists in the government bureaucracy are not reliable.

Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.

Got a link?

I think the real issue that will trip up Trump, the one that will wreck his personal empire and ruin his reputation (and ability to make a profit on his name), is centered on Cohen, and when he will flip against Trump. The right wing media is feverishly throwing out conspiracy theory threads about the Mueller investigation to try to distract from that really damaging issue, which is the graft gravy train Trump, his family, his friends and associates have been wallowing on since the moment Trump got elected. 

To "flip" he'd have to have knowledge of a crime. How long has it been since the brazen and unprecedented raid on Cohen's office? If they had something, they'd have something.

Rolling Stone had one writer that didn't fact check her sources and ended up retracting the story and paying damages - see if you can find one legitimate news source that hasn't been sued at some point in their history for getting a story wrong.  That doesn't allow you to conveniently ignore everything else they write that you disagree with.

 

You are incorrect, Cohen is not a lobbyist. You have to register with the government to claim to be a lobbyist, and he did not. 

www.washingtonian.com/2018/05/15/dcs-lobbyists-would-like-you-to-know-what-michael-cohen-did-wasnt-lobbying/

Cohen promoted himself as someone who had access to the president. Whether it is legal or not is a grey area. It looks a little to similar to pay to play, which is why AT and T and other companies that paid him have come forward to admit hiring Cohen was a bad mistake.

I'm not going to follow you into the rabbit hole of 'whataboutHillary.' This is a discussion about the current president, not someone who lost the last election.

Info on the fact that Trump reversed the US government sanctions against Chinese phone company ZTE - story about his sudden decision to lift the sanctions, which he claimed caused many Chinese to lose their jobs: abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/trump-us-penalized-chinese-company-55140101     Article about how Trump's order to reverse the sanctions came just 72 hours after the Chinese government agreed to provide $500 million in loans to construct an Indonesian theme park that would include Trump's name on the resort which would include hotels and a golf course - so a bunch of money will go to the Trump inc. bottom line.   Lawmakers on both sides were shocked that Trump overturned a Dept of Commerce approved sanction of a company that had been selling products to the NK and Iran. www.businessinsider.com/trump-zte-order-after-china-gave-millions-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5

It's only been about a month since the raid on Cohen's office. No doubt the AG is still consumed in sorting through his paperwork and following all the money trails, interviewing all the companies that gave him money, or the companies, like Ford Motor company, who claims Cohen approached them for money, but they turned him down. www.thedetroitbureau.com/2018/05/ford-dragged-into-mueller-trump-probe-after-rejecting-consulting-pitch-from-cohen/ Then the information and video shots of Cohen entering Trump Tower with a Qatari national (who had previously bragged about bribing Flynn with money) just surfaced in the last week or so. The Qatari investor admits he attended meetings at Trump Tower shortly after the election. www.newsweek.com/qatar-investor-trump-tower-avenatti-927700  The same investor bragged that he had bribed Flynn. slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/michael-cohens-meetings-with-michael-flynn-and-ahmed-al-rumaihi-might-be-the-key-to-unlocking-the-steele-dossier.html  Then just yesterday came the news (the source quoted above) that someone has been deleting Cohen's SAS reports from the national database.  In short, the NY AG has just begun to tap the murky surface of Cohen's activities as Trump's fixer, but once they follow down all the various leads and put together all the criminal charges he's facing, and Cohen has to choose between spending a couple decades in the slammer or rolling on the president, how do you think a guy with loose morals and a strong sense of self preservation like Cohen, will respond? IMHO, this is the scandal that will blow up in Trump's face - not the Mueller investigation, not Stormy Daniels and all the other girlfriends, it will be Cohen spilling the beans on all the money laundering and mobbed up activity Trump has been engaged in for decades that will wreck this presidency, Trump's company and Trump's future earning potential.

[happyhoix]

May 17, 2018 13:36:16 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Here's your 'whistleblower'.

Yeah, um...not so much.

This turns out to be exactly what I suspected.

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/16/corrupt-law-enforcement-official-leaked-private-michael-cohen-financial-information-to-sketchy-porn-lawyer/

Corrupt Law Enforcement Official Leaked Private Michael Cohen Financial Information To Sketchy Porn Lawyer…

Posted on May 16, 2018 by sundance

Last week, in an effort to target President Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, sketchy porn-lawyer Michael Avenatti received and released stolen financial records for a group of people who held the name Michael Cohen. At least two of the people who had their records released were the wrong Michael Cohen.

In a New Yorker article today, far-left playtime ‘journalist’ Ronan Farrow writes about his contact with the law-enforcement official who stole the Cohen financial records and gave them to the sketchy porn lawyer.

From the timing it appears the Treasury Department Office of Inspector General is close to catching the criminal leaker. As such, Farrow writes a sympathetic outline attempting to shape a narrative of a “law-enforcement official” as a wounded ‘whistleblower‘.


Here’s the problem with Farrow’s sympathetic motive framework: The ‘law-enforcement official’ stole and released, financial records of the wrong Michael Cohens. That’s not the conduct of a “whistleblower”; that’s the conduct of an entrenched and corrupt partisan ideologue holding -and exploiting- their position within law-enforcement.

A Big Difference.

I couldn't see anywhere in your referenced article that there was proof that this was the wrong Cohen? Since this appears to be a blog written by someone named 'sundance' and it uses the old propaganda technique of referring to Avenatti as 'the sketchy porn lawyer' and the whistleblower as a 'corrupt government official ' over and over again in the article, to embed that idea firmly in reader's heads, I have to assume Conservativenuthouse isn't actually a journalism site, since journalists stick to professional standards. A goggle search didn't show up any actual news articles stating that the whistleblower had the wrong Cohen, I'm going to have to call bullshit on this.

Additionally, I would like to remind you that government officials who release information because they want to reveal government corruption are not themselves corrupt- they actually have a protected legal status as a whistleblower.  

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Sundance is the proprietor of the conservativetreehouse. It is not a recognized news source. 

[swamp]

Does anyone remember the DOOW Toyota thread?

This is coming really close.......

[weltschmerz]

"Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.
"


"Got a link?"
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You must be joking!! It's been plastered all over the news!
Maybe if you read something besides the Conservative Nuthouse, you'd be more aware of what's happening in the world.
The same Conservative Nuthouse, that would never, ever, post anything negative about Trump, no matter how true it is.

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[Tennesseer]

Mueller has a lot of options besides indicting Trump. Here they are

Rudy Giuliani's assertion to CNN this week that President Donald Trump can't be indicted by the special counsel, and thus can't face a subpoena, banks on a series of internal Justice Department policies.

The question to this day is untested in the court system. Yet the step-by-step process Robert Mueller or any special counsel could follow for a President under investigation has several possible outcomes.

According to several legal experts, historical memos and court filings, this is how the Justice Department's decision-making on whether to indict a sitting president could play out:

Full article here: Mueller has a lot of options besides indicting Trump. Here they are

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Reasonable Grounds For Criminal Prosecution...

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/17/report-ig-horowitz-found-reasonable-grounds-for-criminal-prosecution-and-referred-to-u-s-attorney-john-huber/


"If IG Horowitz did not discover reasonable evidence of criminal conduct there would not be a U.S. Attorney (Huber) paralleling his investigation since late last year. U.S. Attorney John Huber was assigned to assist Horowitz at least eight months ago. It wasn’t until March of this year when AG Jeff Sessions, quietly made the acknowledgement.

The evidence of a U.S. Attorney working with Horowitz was initially evidenced when it became obvious that Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, James Baker and Bruce Ohr were cooperating with the investigation. Each of these individuals is clearly outlined as engaging in conduct that exposed them to legal risk. The IG cannot coordinate terms of cooperation surrounding unlawful conduct. That was the first indication a U.S. attorney was assisting. That indication was more than six months ago.

“They are sat down, told to not do anything, say anything or discuss anything UNTIL they get an attorney. At which time, the attorney is handed a letter from the investigating unit. That letter says in essence, this is how screwed you are. If you want to be less screwed you will sign this letter of cooperation and assist us. When we don’t need you, you sit there. When we do we will call you and you will provide what we need. Any deviation from this agreement lands you in jail for the full term.” (Link to Prior)

The fact that U.S. Attorney John Huber exists is evidence in-and-of-itself that criminal conduct was discovered by IG Horowitz. It should not come as a surprise to hear news today about this. Clearly U.S. Attorney John Huber has been reviewing evidence and conducting his own investigation for more than six months."

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 17, 2018 14:48:32 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

"Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.
"


"Got a link?"
--------------------------
You must be joking!! It's been plastered all over the news!
Maybe if you read something besides the Conservative Nuthouse, you'd be more aware of what's happening in the world.
The same Conservative Nuthouse, that would never, ever, post anything negative about Trump, no matter how true it is.

"The News"?

In my best John Mcenroe voice: you cannot be serious?!?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Andrew McCarthy discusses FBI and doj attempts to justify spying on the Trump campaign.

I sincerely hope that we are all on the same side of the aisle on this matter. We simply cannot tolerate this. If we have a country where the government can spy on a political campaign, just because they don't like it, then we are all doomed.

theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/17/andrew-mccarthy-discusses-fbi-and-doj-attempts-to-justify-spying-on-trump-campaign/

[billisonboard]

May 17, 2018 18:30:23 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

... If we have a country where the government can spy on a political campaign, just because they don't like it, then we are all doomed.

...

Fortunately the government didn't do that. 

[Virgil Showlion]

May 17, 2018 18:30:23 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I sincerely hope that we are all on the same side of the aisle on this matter.

They believe Pres. Trump and Mr. Cohen are crooks, both are illegally on the take from many foreign powers, the Mueller investigation is alive and well with many options to proceed, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is credible, Pres. Trump is guilty of quid pro quo with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is a hollow distraction being pushed by a panicked right wing media, the CTH is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a generally reliable news source, Mr. Cohen and others are going to imminently spill the beans on serious criminal wrongdoing by Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to make major inroads during the midterms, and the Trump house of cards is about to come crashing down.

You believe Pres. Trump is crystal clean, Mr. Cohen is essentially a lobbyist, neither man is illegally on the take from any foreign power, the Mueller investigation is dead as dead can be, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is fallacious, Pres. Trump has no conflict of interest with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is bigger than Watergate and certain to lead to numerous major convictions, the CTH is an unimpeachable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Mr. Cohen has no beans to spill on Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to be spinning their wheels in the midterms, and Pres. Trump is poised for yet another imminent victory over his enemies and the agents of the deep state.

I think it's safe to say we're not "all on the same side" of the matter.

[weltschmerz]

May 17, 2018 18:24:48 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 17, 2018 14:48:32 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

"Let's not forget how Trump suddenly developed a soft spot for Chinese workers when China authorized $500 million to go towards construction of a resort that will feature a Trump hotel and golf course.
"


"Got a link?"
--------------------------
You must be joking!! It's been plastered all over the news!
Maybe if you read something besides the Conservative Nuthouse, you'd be more aware of what's happening in the world.
The same Conservative Nuthouse, that would never, ever, post anything negative about Trump, no matter how true it is.

"The News"?

In my best John Mcenroe voice: you cannot be serious?!?

Would you believe Trump's own tweet? Probably not, if it wasn't reported in the Conservative Nuthouse.




Donald J. Trump

✔

@realdonaldtrump

President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!



11:01 AM - May 13, 2018

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"Make China Great Again!! Forget everything I said about China stealing our jobs! Forget everything i said about my Chinese sanctions!""

[thyme4change]

May 17, 2018 19:28:26 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 17, 2018 18:30:23 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I sincerely hope that we are all on the same side of the aisle on this matter.

They believe Pres. Trump and Mr. Cohen are crooks, both are illegally on the take from many foreign powers, the Mueller investigation is alive and well with many options to proceed, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is credible, Pres. Trump is guilty of quid pro quo with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is a hollow distraction being pushed by a panicked right wing media, the CTH is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a generally reliable news source, Mr. Cohen and others are going to imminently spill the beans on serious criminal wrongdoing by Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to make major inroads during the midterms, and the Trump house of cards is about to come crashing down.

You believe Pres. Trump is crystal clean, Mr. Cohen is essentially a lobbyist, neither man is illegally on the take from any foreign power, the Mueller investigation is dead as dead can be, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is fallacious, Pres. Trump has no conflict of interest with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is bigger than Watergate and certain to lead to numerous major convictions, the CTH is an unimpeachable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Mr. Cohen has no beans to spill on Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to be spinning their wheels in the midterms, and Pres. Trump is poised for yet another imminent victory over his enemies and the agents of the deep state.

I think it's safe to say we're not "all on the same side" of the matter.

This is virgil's best post ever.

[weltschmerz]

May 17, 2018 16:51:07 GMT -5 @rockhounder said:

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We can report abuse? Great. Can we report that some guy named Draggin Energy is abusing us with  his endless logorrhea from the Conservative Nuthouse?

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I vote we all call and claim their site is "fake news". 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 17, 2018 19:28:26 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

May 17, 2018 18:30:23 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I sincerely hope that we are all on the same side of the aisle on this matter.

They believe Pres. Trump and Mr. Cohen are crooks, both are illegally on the take from many foreign powers, the Mueller investigation is alive and well with many options to proceed, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is credible, Pres. Trump is guilty of quid pro quo with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is a hollow distraction being pushed by a panicked right wing media, the CTH is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a generally reliable news source, Mr. Cohen and others are going to imminently spill the beans on serious criminal wrongdoing by Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to make major inroads during the midterms, and the Trump house of cards is about to come crashing down.

You believe Pres. Trump is crystal clean, Mr. Cohen is essentially a lobbyist, neither man is illegally on the take from any foreign power, the Mueller investigation is dead as dead can be, Mr. Avenatti's dirt on Mr. Cohen is fallacious, Pres. Trump has no conflict of interest with the Chinese, the campaign spying story is bigger than Watergate and certain to lead to numerous major convictions, the CTH is an unimpeachable news source, Rolling Stone magazine is a hopelessly unreliable news source, Mr. Cohen has no beans to spill on Pres. Trump, the Democrats are going to be spinning their wheels in the midterms, and Pres. Trump is poised for yet another imminent victory over his enemies and the agents of the deep state.

I think it's safe to say we're not "all on the same side" of the matter.

Actually, we know Mr. Avenatti hastily released "dirt" on the wrong Michael Cohen (not the first time they've screwed up on Cohens-- remember the Russian passport debacle?)

[countrygirl2]

There is more. After the kushners were denied a loan for 666 by Qatar the trumpster was all for backing an embargo on them, well lo and behold, now one of their big investment groups here has rethink the situation and is going to bail out the 666 project.  So now the trumpster is all buddy buddy with Qatar and calling for lifting the embargo.


We can call this baksheesh at its best.


What a bunch of total crooks and the repubs are looking away, wonder how much money has been sent ryan and mcconnells way or was it Russian prostitutes for them too?


Maybe they need to follow the money on those 2 guys also.


Just maybe that swamp will be drained, once they are all out.

[countrygirl2]

Also Avenatti has 2 more women that apparently been paid off by the trumpster through cohen, he is making sure they are credible before identifying them.

Your dirt bag pres presents as more of a dirt bag daily.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 17, 2018 13:40:30 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 17, 2018 12:58:06 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Rolling Stone had one writer that didn't fact check her sources and ended up retracting the story and paying damages - see if you can find one legitimate news source that hasn't been sued at some point in their history for getting a story wrong.  That doesn't allow you to conveniently ignore everything else they write that you disagree with.

 

You are incorrect, Cohen is not a lobbyist. You have to register with the government to claim to be a lobbyist, and he did not. 

www.washingtonian.com/2018/05/15/dcs-lobbyists-would-like-you-to-know-what-michael-cohen-did-wasnt-lobbying/

Cohen promoted himself as someone who had access to the president. Whether it is legal or not is a grey area. It looks a little to similar to pay to play, which is why AT and T and other companies that paid him have come forward to admit hiring Cohen was a bad mistake.

I'm not going to follow you into the rabbit hole of 'whataboutHillary.' This is a discussion about the current president, not someone who lost the last election.

Sorry, but all roads lead to Obama and Hillary. You can't talk about the Russia collusion hoax without talking about Obama and Hillary.

Info on the fact that Trump reversed the US government sanctions against Chinese phone company ZTE - story about his sudden decision to lift the sanctions, which he claimed caused many Chinese to lose their jobs: abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/trump-us-penalized-chinese-company-55140101     Article about how Trump's order to reverse the sanctions came just 72 hours after the Chinese government agreed to provide $500 million in loans to construct an Indonesian theme park that would include Trump's name on the resort which would include hotels and a golf course - so a bunch of money will go to the Trump inc. bottom line.   Lawmakers on both sides were shocked that Trump overturned a Dept of Commerce approved sanction of a company that had been selling products to the NK and Iran. www.businessinsider.com/trump-zte-order-after-china-gave-millions-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5

Were laws broken?  The problem with a multibillion-dollar international corporation is that it is tough to do anything that doesn't benefit (or hurt) you in some way.  I know you'd like to not discuss Clinton, but there are far more serious questions about the Clinton Foundation which do not seem to concern you. Your attitude is that she was investigated (she wasn't) and cleared (she wasn't). That's why the IG's report has found evidence of criminality- and why Jeff Sessions quietly appointed Huber over a year ago to paralel the IG's investigation-- because people are going to be prosecuted.

It's only been about a month since the raid on Cohen's office. No doubt the AG is still consumed in sorting through his paperwork and following all the money trails, interviewing all the companies that gave him money, or the companies, like Ford Motor company, who claims Cohen approached them for money, but they turned him down. www.thedetroitbureau.com/2018/05/ford-dragged-into-mueller-trump-probe-after-rejecting-consulting-pitch-from-cohen/ Then the information and video shots of Cohen entering Trump Tower with a Qatari national (who had previously bragged about bribing Flynn with money) just surfaced in the last week or so. The Qatari investor admits he attended meetings at Trump Tower shortly after the election. www.newsweek.com/qatar-investor-trump-tower-avenatti-927700  The same investor bragged that he had bribed Flynn. slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/michael-cohens-meetings-with-michael-flynn-and-ahmed-al-rumaihi-might-be-the-key-to-unlocking-the-steele-dossier.html  Then just yesterday came the news (the source quoted above) that someone has been deleting Cohen's SAS reports from the national database.  In short, the NY AG has just begun to tap the murky surface of Cohen's activities as Trump's fixer, but once they follow down all the various leads and put together all the criminal charges he's facing, and Cohen has to choose between spending a couple decades in the slammer or rolling on the president, how do you think a guy with loose morals and a strong sense of self-preservation like Cohen, will respond? IMHO, this is the scandal that will blow up in Trump's face - not the Mueller investigation, not Stormy Daniels and all the other girlfriends, it will be Cohen spilling the beans on all the money laundering and mobbed up activity Trump has been engaged in for decades that will wreck this presidency, Trump's company and Trump's future earning potential.

The ONLY scandal that's blowing up in anyone's face is the Obama regime's use of the top intelligence and law enforcement officials including the Director of the CIA and the Director of the FBI to plant spies in their opponent's campaign, and deceive the FISA court on multiple occasions-- basically weaponizing the government for his own political purposes, and more specifically to prevent Trump from being elected President.  LOTS of people are going to federal prison- and the list probably does not include Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, or anyone else associated with Trump. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 17, 2018 22:31:22 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

Also Avenatti has 2 more women that apparently been paid off by the trumpster through cohen, he is making sure they are credible before identifying them.

Your dirt bag pres presents as more of a dirt bag daily.

Avanetti is toast. The sketchy porn lawyer might play on CNN- but the only one being investigated for anything pertaining to Clifford and Avanetti is Avanetti.