Amazon delivery inside your home

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/amazon-to-sell-smart-locks-so-it-can-slip-packages-into-your-home_us_59f0aeb5e4b092dad3bb0390?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

The world’s largest online retailer on Wednesday announced Amazon Key, a lock and camera system that users control remotely to let delivery associates slip goods into their houses. Customers can create temporary passcodes for friends and other services professionals to enter as well.

No way. Almost everything digital is hackable now.

[resolution]

We have a small rod iron table on our back porch, and the delivery people just leave our items sitting on the table. I am quite content to continue using the table.

[Deleted]

I just leave the door unlocked. 

[hoops902]

Oct 25, 2017 11:45:46 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/amazon-to-sell-smart-locks-so-it-can-slip-packages-into-your-home_us_59f0aeb5e4b092dad3bb0390?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

The world’s largest online retailer on Wednesday announced Amazon Key, a lock and camera system that users control remotely to let delivery associates slip goods into their houses. Customers can create temporary passcodes for friends and other services professionals to enter as well.

No way. Almost everything digital is hackable now.

It is, but locks are simply a deterrent anyways. It's a lot easier to "hack" the locked door by kicking in your door, breaking a window, etc. Someone actually hacking the digital component wouldn't be a worry for me.

If someone wants in, they're going to get in. 

[Anne_in_VA]

No way!  My concern is that they use an outside delivery service, so if they go into your house to deliver something, what's to stop them from casing your home or stealing easily accessible items?

[Anne_in_VA]

I recently got a Ring doorbell which lets me see who is at the door and speak to them even when I'm not home.  I would just tell them to leave it at my back door.

[billisonboard]

Yeah, but do they hang up the clothes in your closet, put the new sheets on your bed, or clean your house when you order those products? That would be service.

[hoops902]

Oct 25, 2017 12:13:08 GMT -5 Anne_in_VA said:

No way!  My concern is that they use an outside delivery service, so if they go into your house to deliver something, what's to stop them from casing your home or stealing easily accessible items?

What's to stop them from stealing easily accessible items? The camera system which is going to catch them coming and going. I'm guessing you don't leave your priceless valuables just inside your front door...it would be pretty obvious if they open the door, are off camera for 5 minutes, then return to leave.

[dannylion]

No. Just no.

[Deleted]

Heck, I won't even allow Location Sharing on my smartphone so that my Nest thermostat can dial back the settings when I leave the house.  I have my limits and letting Amazon delivery people unlock my door is more than I'm willing to "share".  I'd rather risk losing the merchandise- it's not like I'm ordering diamond jewelry.

[TheOtherMe]

No way.  Parcels get left on my front porch, which is difficult to see from the street.

[alabamagal]

Question:  Who is liable if a delivery service leaves something on your front doorstep and it is stolen?

My only experience with having something stolen was when we had an Amazon delivery via the Post Office.  Our mailbox door was broken for a long time so it was easy to see what was delivered.  We had an amazon package stolen out of it.  It was a $6 cheapo computer charger and we were really annoyed because we couldn't charge our computer.  Right before we reported it, a guy from a few houses down said he found the charger along with the ripped up envelope with our address so he brought it to us.  

At my old house most deliveries were left in the enclosed side facing carport so were not visible from the street, but mailbox was.

Current house our front porch is above street level so you can't see boxes unless they are large, and we are on a cul-de-sac so don't get much traffic. 

[bean29]

My thought was I would not want to trust them inside my house either.

If it is something I am worried about getting stolen, I just ship everything to DH's office. Sometimes it takes longer, b/c DH takes his time deciding to bring it home. 

Most of my amazon purchases I just ship right to the front door.  They have lots of delivery people that deliver on the weekend.  (has anyone else noticed that Amazon just uses regular people, using their own transportation, and I have not seen anyone in an "amazon" uniform either)?

They also have "lockers" where you can ship your amazon purchases to.

[cktc]

I'm good with packages left at the door. I'm in a small gated community off a curved neighborhood road. You can't even see our house until you reach the end of the cul-du-sac and the front door is about 50 feet from the road on the side of the house. The only people who would even see the packages are other delivery people. 

My sister and BIL live off a main road so sometimes she sends stuff to our house if they won't deliver to PO Box. I can't imagine BIL would be less paranoid having people enter his house. Also he has a pit bull that freaks out when anyone comes to the door. I wonder what the liability would be if a pet attacks a delivery person inside your home.

[grumpyhermit]

Oct 25, 2017 13:52:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yeah, but do they hang up the clothes in your closet, put the new sheets on your bed, or clean your house when you order those products? That would be service.

In some markets, you can actually arrange house cleaning services through Amazon, so quite possibly. 

[NoNamePerson]

Oct 25, 2017 13:52:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yeah, but do they hang up the clothes in your closet, put the new sheets on your bed, or clean your house when you order those products? That would be service.

In my case I want dinner cooked if I order food.  

[OldCoyote]

Because I get deliveries all the time when I am not there, I am going to build a locking box for the deliveries, The access code would be the four number extension on your zip code.
That way if you had multiple deliveries they would have access,
There is your business idea, build decorative lock boxes for deliveries.

[movingforward]

I heard about this on the radio this morning. No freaking way! I will risk items being left at my door. I live in a new community and there are workers everywhere and my place is right by the main road. Nothing has been taken yet (not that it never will be), but it's not like I order high priced items from Amazon anyway. I order cat food and face cream. While both are a bit pricey for what they are it doesn't warrant letting someone in my house to drop them off.

[billisonboard]

Oct 26, 2017 8:47:02 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Because I get deliveries all the time when I am not there, I am going to build a locking box for the deliveries, The access code would be the four number extension on your zip code.
That way if you had multiple deliveries they would have access,
There is your business idea, build decorative lock boxes for deliveries.

At work, our main food supplier has a key to our back door so they can deliver into frig and freezer when no one is around. No big deal. Their rule doesn't leave them time for mischief.

[Deleted]

Oct 25, 2017 17:39:13 GMT -5 cktc said:

I'm good with packages left at the door. I'm in a small gated community off a curved neighborhood road. You can't even see our house until you reach the end of the cul-du-sac and the front door is about 50 feet from the road on the side of the house. The only people who would even see the packages are other delivery people. 

My sister and BIL live off a main road so sometimes she sends stuff to our house if they won't deliver to PO Box. I can't imagine BIL would be less paranoid having people enter his house. Also he has a pit bull that freaks out when anyone comes to the door. I wonder what the liability would be if a pet attacks a delivery person inside your home.

I'm fine with stuff being left at the door too...until it rains or snows or there are straightline winds and it blows away.

That's why I just leave the attached garage unlocked.  We're out in the country so if someone wants to break in they can easily enough undetected.  I have been giving some serious thought to installing security cameras that I can watch from my phone though.  Not so much out of fear of being robbed, but I can't see my driveway from the house.  There could be 50 cars parked out by the entrance to my house and I wouldn't know it in the main living areas of my house and If I have the stereo blaring so I can't hear the doorbell...

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

We have a covered front porch which is well obstructed visually from the road.  There are also only 4 houses at the end of this road, and everyone is aware of strange cars that come down it.  2 of the houses are occupied by retired people, who are either doing yard work or walking dogs, so lots of eyes.  

Nope, wouldn't give access to a service like this.

[dannylion]

Oct 25, 2017 17:45:40 GMT -5 grumpyhermit said:

Oct 25, 2017 13:52:15 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yeah, but do they hang up the clothes in your closet, put the new sheets on your bed, or clean your house when you order those products? That would be service.

In some markets, you can actually arrange house cleaning services through Amazon, so quite possibly. 

You can also hire goats to clear your yard through Amazon.

[swamp]

the garage is unlocked.  Leave it there. 

[saveinla]

If you watched the video, the delivery person comes to the front door and asks Amazon to unlock the door. They then leave the parcel right next to the door - don't even have to enter the house other than close to the door - and then step out and ask Amazon again to lock the door. The delivery person does not have any codes to access the door. Obviously if people want to make mischief they can. 

I think it's cool technology, but I don't even have a Prime account or order any stuff from Amazon anymore, so it does not apply to me. I also live in a gated community, so stuff stays at my door for a week  if I dont pick it up.

[ohmomto2boys]

My dog would escape if someone opened the front door to put a package inside.

[Chocolate Lover]

Oct 26, 2017 8:47:02 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Because I get deliveries all the time when I am not there, I am going to build a locking box for the deliveries, The access code would be the four number extension on your zip code.
That way if you had multiple deliveries they would have access,
There is your business idea, build decorative lock boxes for deliveries.

I've seen this idea somewhere but the 4 digit code is the last 4 of the tracking number of the package. 

[zibazinski]

This was a big topic of discussion at the hospital today and the consensus was no way.

[bobosensei]

I have dogs so don't think I'd be a candidate.  I wouldn't put them up for something like this.

[Shooby]

I could see a point in modern home building where they build new homes with an outside vault, locker, etc specifically for deliveries.  Then, they could just have the vault/locker code and not just your home.  What do you think?

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Nov 19, 2017 8:51:59 GMT -5 Shooby said:

I could see a point in modern home building where they build new homes with an outside vault, locker, etc specifically for deliveries.  Then, they could just have the vault/locker code and not just your home.  What do you think?

OC mentioned something similar and it sounds like a good idea.